Parents sue to overturn New Jersey ban on ex-gay therapy

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New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has vowed to veto a bill that would make New Jersey the eighth U.S. state to legalize gay marriage. Photo courtesy Bob Jagendorf

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has vowed to veto a bill that would make New Jersey the eighth U.S. state to legalize gay marriage. Photo courtesy Bob Jagendorf

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(RNS) The unidentified couple says the restriction, signed into law by Gov. Chris Christie, infringes on their rights of free speech and religion and unconstitutionally interferes in the raising of their 15-year-old son.

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  • Frank

    Lets hope the people see reason and overturn this ban

  • Larry

    I guess you are still looking to have insurance cover your therapy, Frank. It won’t work. You are still going to be gay no matter how hard you try to pray it away.

  • Frank

    Don’t you have any friend that can stop you from making a fool out yourself?

    These kids are confused and need help!

  • Larry

    That’s not a denial of what I said.

    It makes no difference. Ex-gay therapy doesn’t work. You can stop going for treatment and just accept the inevitable.

  • Frank

    Larry looking foolish is not helping you.

    There are some who are indeed ex-gay but most have simply not allowed sinful predilections to control their lives anymore. You might want to give it a try.

    Kids who are gender or sexually confused desperately need professional help. I hope they will continue to get the help they so desperately need.

  • CarrotCakeMan

    No, there are NO “ex-gays.” There is NO SUCH THING as “ex-gay.” Even the anti-gays themselves that cooked up this lie, “ex-gay,” now admit it was nothing more than a con job:,0,2132827.story

    “A controversial Christian ministry devoted to changing people “affected by homosexuality” announced Wednesday night that it was shutting its doors after operating for more than three decades.

    The announcement by Exodus International came during its religious conference in Irvine and after its President Alan Chambers apologized to members of the gay community for “years of undue judgment by the organization and the Christian Church as a whole,” the Florida-based ministry said in a statement.

    “I am sorry I didn’t stand up to people publicly ‘on my side’ who called you names…. I am sorry I have communicated that you and your families are less than me and mine,” Chambers said in his apology.

    “More than anything, I am sorry that so many have interpreted this religious rejection by Christians as God’s rejection. I am profoundly sorry that many have walked away from their faith and that some have chosen to end their lives.”

    Chambers said in a statement that the organization’s directors voted to shut down Exodus and start a new ministry that would would work with other churches to create “safe, welcoming and mutually transforming communities.”

  • CarrotCakeMan

    Anti-gays in California went to federal court to try to revoke the California law that forbids using the fake “ex-gay” torture on minors. Anti-gays in New Jersey are wasting taxpayer dollars trying to fool another court with their lies about the fake “ex-gay” torture. Anti-gays will face hard evidence like this any time they try to fool courts into letting them torture LGBT teens:

    “In a new survey of people who have undergone a controversial treatment seeking to change their sexual orientation, a gay man described his eight-year marriage to a woman as a “scam.” Another survey respondent reported self-hatred, isolation, depression and flashbacks enduring long after the therapy was concluded. A third described an attempted exorcism.
    These are just a few of the hundreds of responses from those who shared their experiences with “conversion therapy,” or the gay “cure,” in this apparently first-of-its-kind survey. More than three-quarters of respondents said they quit “the ex-gay movement” because it didn’t make them straight. Twenty percent said they quit because of a nervous breakdown.

    “I saw that NOBODY was being changed, and some of those other guys had a lot more faith than I did,” one individual wrote. “The only ones I ever met who claimed to have been changed were the leadership. And one of them was always hitting on me.”

    “I tried to kill myself and ended up on the psych ward,” another wrote.

    More than 90 percent of respondents said they felt they were harmed in some way by the experience, and more than 80 percent said the harm endured to this day.

    “I had to re-construct my whole identity with precious little support. For years I felt like walking swiss cheese, like I had left my guts on the road,” one person wrote after a prompt to describe the type of harm the experience caused. Others reported shame, depression, drug and alcohol abuse, or difficulty in developing intimate relationships of any kind.

    In a question asking what good, if any, came out of the ex-gay experience, nearly 50 respondents replied, “None.” Others said it helped them come out of the closet fully, feel less alone, leave religion or meet a same-sex partner.

    “I suppose that I needed to see for myself that changing my sexual orientation was not possible, nor was it necessary,” one wrote.

  • CarrotCakeMan

    Here’s what the EXPERTS say:

    “In a resolution adopted on a 125-to-4 vote by the APA’s governing council, and in a comprehensive report based on two years of research, the 150,000-member association put itself firmly on record in opposition of so-called “reparative therapy” which seeks to change sexual orientation.
    No solid evidence exists that such change is likely, says the report, and some research suggests that efforts to produce change could be harmful, inducing depression and suicidal tendencies.”

  • CarrotCakeMan

    It’s so sad seeing how anti-gays will post such vicious personal attacks, but at least Frank has demonstrated he cannot defend the fake “ex-gay” torture of LGBT teens.

  • Frank

    Amazing how desperate CarrotCakeMan has to get to prove his lies. It would be funny of it weren’t so sad.

  • WolfgangDS

    The ban is in place because it does more harm than good. It worsens identity issues and causes children, teenagers, and adults who undergo the sessions to hate themselves in a vast majority of cases. Instead of treating it as evil and wrong and unnatural, why not help these humans work THROUGH their identity issues so they can decide for themselves who they WANT to be and to learn to be happy with themselves?

    Imagine if people were told they were evil for being born left-handed. It’s not their fault, so why treat them that way? (Fun fact: This used to happen.)

  • Larry

    Frank just accept your sexual identity and/or gender confusion for what it is. You can stop going to those sham therapists and trying to put up such a brave face by pretending to be a raging homophobe. You aren’t fooling anyone. God knows about your little online lies.

  • John Bentley

    Hi Frank,
    This ban is not about free speech or “doing more harm than good” This ban is for licensed therapists only. It is designed to keep patients from harm. It is similar to other bans we have on quackery and patient abuse. As an example, a female can’t go to a doctor and have him cure her of hysteria with a vibrator at her husbands request. Blood letting and Lobotomies also come to mind.

  • Frank

    Poor Larry, so clueless.

  • Frank

    Leaving kids confused is harmful. Leaving kids believing their identity is their attractions is harmful.

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  • Sebastian

    Homosexuality is not an identity; it is simply a description of one’s sexual attractions. These kids are generally NOT confused, or if they are confused, it is by irresponsible religious people telling them that if they are homosexual, their ability to share, experience, and feel love is a disgusting perversion that will send them to hell. THAT is the problem.

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