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  • Thanks for sharing Dean O’s piece… Really funny!

  • John McGrath

    “My liberty is your oppression.” It’s about time the Catholic bishops realized that their liberty, when it comes to health care, oppresses women. And maybe in other ways as well.

    Will the ACLU see a spike in donations? Members? Will the ACLU be banned from Catholic colleges?

  • Larry

    Its about time for laws which remove the input of people not trained in medicine, following the dictates of their religion, from controlling and making demands on the standards of medical care.

    There is no excuse for people to risk severe medical emergencies or death because an administrator wants to uphold religious dogma. Your faith is not worth someone else dying unnecessarily.

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  • Duane Lamers

    Yours is that peculiar, liberal definition of oppression, McGrath. Women can buy contraceptives at the pharmacy, maybe even at the supermarket. Men, too. Women and men can choose surgical sterilization, even paying for it themselves.

  • Duane Lamers

    Larry, if you have knowledge of “the other side” of this story, please give it. At this point all we know is that the ACLU said that the woman was sent home despite the best medical advice. Was “the best medical advice” that which the ACLU wanted to hear and only that?
    What constituted a “danger to health” here? The woman’s wish not to bear a child? Remember, abortion and contraception are considered by liberals to be health issues. They are, but not nearly as often as liberals want them to be. For some, choice is about health, and that is the line they continue to use.

  • Earold Gunter

    Duane, If you would like to follow the hyperlink in the article, you can read more about this situation. Also, the actual complaint can be found as well. If you are interested in learning more about the ACLU position, here is the complaint location.

  • Larry

    Your ad hominem argument and ignorance trolling is duly noted.

    The other side is easy to grasp here.

    We have bishops and other clergy members setting standards of medical care for hospitals controlled by their church. These are not doctors, these are not people who are acting with concern for medical necessity, public safety or the overall health of patients who come to such facilities. These are people who have no problem upholding their religious dogma at the expense of patient health.

    Refusal to give potential life saving care or even correct information is a danger to public health. Yet this is standard operating procedure for Catholic medical facilities where the issue is medically necessary abortions.

    This incident could have been a reply of the one in Ireland.

    This is more of a medical malpractice issue than a civil liberties one.
    The ACLU is stretching its point for cheap publicity.

    Unlike Ireland, there are no safe harbor laws for doctors to hide behind if they chose religious dogma over patient care. The hospital can be found negligently departing from the standards of medical care. Typical malpractice.

  • Larry

    An organized effort to deny medical care based on gender sounds oppressive to me.

    Women may be able to buy contraceptives but they risk dying if they have to go to a Catholic hospital if a pregnancy endangers her life. Evidently the USCCB’s notion of religious freedom comes with a body count.

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