Up ahead? Massive social change, experts say

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(RNS) Experts say societal changes will accelerate on issues such as same-sex marriage, interracial marriage, legalization of marijuana and childbearing among the unwed. One reason? Younger people are more liberal and less conventional.

  • Doc Anthony

    “Massive Social Change” = “United States of Sodom”

  • Larry

    Funny because what some Christians want to do is exactly the sin of Sodom. Inhospitable behavior to others.

    [Of course that is assuming you bothered to read the sections and understood its original cultural context. You obviously did not. ]

    In antiquity, the worst taboo a peasant could commit against another peasant was to not treat strangers with respect. Laws of hospitality existed to ensure people could travel and deal with others without fear. Myths of all cultures of the Mediterranean have this common theme. The Odyssey is practically a treatise on the subject as are numerous passages of Ovid’s Metamophosis. [See Procrustes, Tantalus, Ixion and Lycaon]

    Sodom was notorious for treating travelers with bodily harm, with swindling (marked coins) and general hostility to others. God visited harm upon Sodom because angelic guests were being subject to threats of harm.

    Currently Christians are seeking a legal right to treat strangers with spiteful harm like the denizens of Sodom in Genesis.

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  • Doc Anthony

    Yeah, it was inhospitable behavior all right. And all that inhospitable behavior was topped off by HOMOSEXUAL MESS. Let’s go right to the text, since you refer to it (Gen. 19:4-5).

    4 Now before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both old and young, all the people from every quarter, surrounded the house.
    5 And they called to Lot and said to him, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may know them *carnally*.”

    So the hallmark of Sodom was not just inhospitality, but HOMOSEXUAL MESS as well. This particular mess was The Last Straw for God himself. This is corroborated by Ezekiel 16: 49-50.

    49 Look, this was the iniquity of your sister Sodom: She and her daughter had pride, fullness of food, and abundance of idleness; neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
    50 And they were haughty and committed ABOMINATION before Me; therefore I took them away as I saw fit.

    Gay marriage equals ABOMINATION, Larry. It equals MESS, and invites catastrophic divine JUDGMENT on a sorry slimy nation like this one.

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  • Larry

    If you got out of those quotes, condemnation of a consensual adult relationship, you are either an illiterate fool or just a dishonest one.

    If you read the entire passage, instead of copying and pasting from some hate-site, you would have the full context of the story.

    The quotes you pulled have to do with the threatened GANG-RAPE of honored guests (angels). The ultimate form of inhospitable behavior and disrespect. Ezekial merely references it. Its self-reference not support. The use of the word “Abomination” in these texts came in the 17th Century and cannot be taken seriously on its merits.

    Gang rape has nothing to do with consensual adult relationships such as marriage (straight or gay) So no, you are full of it.

    The people who committing the grave sins, the Sodomites if you will, are people like yourself. Those who look for excuses and end runs around God’s command to love thy neighbor. Those who seek to treat others badly, without respect or basic dignity.

  • Rod

    Doc Anthony should have quoted from the New Testament. It does not say anything about homosexual attraction. But I am sure you know about 1 Corinthians 6: 9-11: “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived;neither the sexually immoral, nor idolators, nor men who practice homosexuality,nor thieves,nor the greedy,nor drunkards,nor revilers,nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.” This is from the English Standard Version of the Bible. I am guilty of a number of those sins. First, they have to be recognized as sin. Then they need to be fought however you choose. A sin is still what it is even if it is inconvenient to how we choose to live.

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  • Dr. Judith

    Rod, I am in full agreement with you. For some time now I have been sharing with folks that sin is sin whether we agree with it or not and there are consequences of those sins, whether we agree or not. I too have committed sins, but I can clearly say this, the more I know Him and the more my relationship with Him grows, because of Grace, I no longer desire to sin in any form. Many are preaching and using Grace as if it is an escape hatch for those who wish to do what they wish to do without reprisals, but His Word stands to this day and into eternity: “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from law till all is fulfilled….” Matthew 5:19. Read 1st Corinthians 6:9-11 as Rod has noted here; remember, “Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap (even with Grace in place). For he who sows to his flesh, will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.” Galatians 6:7-8. No one has to believe that, but I promise you, I know it to be true. There are consequences to our choices and The Book tells us so but we have somehow flung ourselves into such arrogance that we so often aid and abet each other straight into hell. To be angry with folks who tell the Truth is not a surprise. The Bible is Truth, ‘there will come a time when a lie will become the truth and the truth a lie, we are living in those days, let no one try to shroud that reality in denial!