• Ken


    This is a very interesting case. I like the fact that Alito has abstained from a decision as the question here should be whether the primary intent of the cross is to communicate religion or to memorialize veterans. If the latter then it should stay, if the former then it must go, to be consistent with the many past decision barring religion from public property. However, I wonder how long it will be, before they tear down the facade of the Supreme Court and its interior walls.

  • Lles Nats

    If the thought is that our government may not establish or promote any religion versus another, why then can it give our taxes to international nations as “support” who are officially based on one regionally predominant religion?

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  • Theophilus

    There are some atheists who just have a real mean streak in them is all I can say. Let’s put up a few statues of Benjamin Franklin or Bertrand Russell or other prominent atheists in our parks for parity and then just chill. The idea expressed in the Constitution isn’t that Government doesn’t have anything to do with religion, but rather that it doesn’t favor one religion over another.

  • Jamesthe

    Benjamin Franklin was no atheist. He always considered himself a Christian. What’s more is that during the Constitutional convention:

    “It was Ben Franklin who, at a critical impasse during the Constitutional Convention in June 1787, attempted to introduce the practice of daily common prayer with these words:
    … In the beginning of the contest with G. Britain, when we were sensible of danger we had daily prayer in this room for the Divine Protection. – Our prayers, Sir, were heard, and they were graciously answered. All of us who were engaged in the struggle must have observed frequent instances of a Superintending providence in our favor. … And have we now forgotten that powerful friend? or do we imagine that we no longer need His assistance?. I have lived, Sir, a long time and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth – that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without his aid? We have been assured, Sir, in the sacred writings that “except the Lord build they labor in vain that build it.” I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without his concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the Builders of Babel: … I therefore beg leave to move – that henceforth prayers imploring the assistance of Heaven, and its blessings on our deliberations, be held in this Assembly every morning before we proceed to business, and that one or more of the Clergy of this City be requested to officiate in that service.”

  • Larry

    Typical David Barton half-truth. The prayer idea was rejected resoundingly as tasteless by the convention.

  • Larry

    No. A mean streak is the idea of stealing public land for yourself and your religion in a way that excludes others. Essentially the public park equivalent of a “tramp stamp” by Christians.

  • Larry

    Double face palm. When the fail is so strong a single facepalm is not enough.


  • Richard Brenner

    And you think that placing a giant cross, to the exclusion of all other religious symbols, doesn’t favor one religion over all others?

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