• “I believe that when we choose to focus on a story about love, it makes it possible to find the grace that we need…”

    Yes. Love is absolutely the answer.
    I am completely in favor of LOVE. And openness.

    But the minute you use the word ‘Grace’ you have turned against humanity and love. You are pushing Jesus. Grace doesn’t mean anything otherwise.

    So….with Jesus you must abandon openness and Love:

    “Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is walking in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us.”
    (2 Thessalonians 3:6)

    “If anyone does not love the Lord, let that person be cursed!”
    (1 Corinthians 16:22)

    Religious people promote their beliefs
    because they have been indoctrinated to do so. They have been told it is ‘good’ – Yet these beliefs are scurrilous and dangerous.

    Non-believers are the unique target of that promotion. And it is not a benign enterprise. It is dangerous and ugly.

    Stick with Love and we can all get along.
    But talk about ‘grace’ or Jesus or anything biblical and we are in big trouble. God has nothing to do with love. Even if you have been told he does.

  • Fran

    I continue to preach the good news of God’s kingdom or heavenly government as the ONLY hope for mankind, as this was the major theme of Jesus’ preaching and teaching when he was on earth:

    “From that time on Jesus commenced preaching and saying: “Repent, you people, for the kingdom of the heavens has drawn near.” (Matthew 4:17)

    Bible prophecies uttered by Jesus concerning the “last days” of a wicked era (Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21) are being fulfilled on a worldwide basis in our day.

    One of those prophecies being fullfilled included: “And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.” (Matthew 24:14)

    I will continue to have a share in that work since we live in such critical times, as foretold by Jesus, and we can see “on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out.” (Luke 21:25).

  • Thecla

    I push my religious beliefs for two reasons:

    (1) As a Christian, I want to be in a comfortable majority rather than a despised minority. In my social world–the world of educated upper middle class urban-coastal professionals, religious affiliation is a source of embarrassment. I’d like to see that changed.

    (2) I love the Church and I want to see the buildings maintained and the ceremonies continued. That takes money and warm bodies.

    It’s that easy.

  • rob

    Telling people about what Jesus has won and done for all people Is not pushing..

    many people just don’t want to even mention Jesus they are the ones Loving some one ,, all the way to hell with love like that I think hatred would be better…

    telling the good news of Jesus is caring for some one even when they may hate you for it.. or complain about you doing it..

  • John

    Really sad Thecla. Jesus “pushed” his beliefs because he wanst to reconcile everyone with their loving heavenly father and spend all of eternity with them in a perfect world. Sorry you desire buildings, ceremonies and social status as the majority. Those are not the things of Christ.

  • Larry

    The answer is simple. Those who push their beliefs are obnoxious people who do not respect the lives or beliefs of others. It is simply an expression of disrespect, uncivil behavior and many times passive-aggressive forms of malice.

    Claiming God wants you to be an offensive, anti-social jerk makes it sound more justifiable than just saying, “I feel like being a raging dillhole to others”

  • @John,

    “sorry you desire buildings..”
    Great. Can we close the churches now?

    and “ceremonies”
    Great, can we abandon all the baptisms, Masses, Communions and weddings?

    and “social status”
    Great, can we abandon ‘the meek shall inherit the earth’?

    Glad to hear none of that is ‘of Christ’
    (but of course you don’t believe it for a moment.)

    “Execute them in front of me” – JESUS (Luke 19:27)
    Now that sounds more like it.

  • “telling the good news of Jesus is caring for some one even when they may hate you for it..”

    Because it ISN’T TRUE.
    If I tell you the magic Leprechaun gave his life for you and as a result you must throw out all the green clothes in your house, you would be very correct in HATING ME FOR THAT!