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  • Larry

    Fiscal conservatives, not the social conservatives. Those interested in making money, not those who consider the Establishment Clause an inconvenience.

    This is not really news. Fiscal conservatives have been at worst neutral to the idea of gay marriage. Usually they only paid lip service to the religious “social conservatives” in this regard when their votes were important.

    In most cases they supported it. Mostly because of the economic benefits it brings. Gay marriage means less money paid to taxes, meaning more disposable income for couples which generally do not have more children than they can financially support. It opens up avenues of tourism in some places. It also makes the ownership of property much less complicated for gay families. Plus its bad business to be discriminating against people in the workplace or denying them benefits for prejudicial and arbitrary reasons.

  • I will be in very good company. Einstein, Gandhi, Jonas Salk have all gone to Hell according to conservative Christianity.

  • I have listed the 300+ GOPers who support marriage equality here: http://www.slowlyboiledfrog.com/2015/03/the-300-gopers-who-support-marriage.html

  • Jim Smith

    If you don’t like marriage equality, you are free to marry someone of the opposite sex. You are *not* free to stop others from marrying those of their own sex. See how individual liberty works?

  • Doc Anthony

    Thanks for making that distinction between “fiscal conservatives” and “social conservatives”, Larry. RNS should have specified that same difference in its headline there, but clearly they did not. So kudos to you.

    Big Business only seeks Money, not Morality. They want Cash, not Christ.

  • bqrq

    Gay marriage = pro-sodomy. You are not “free” to push sodomy on other people’s children.

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  • Pastor Scott

    After you

  • Mark

    Your children will be ‘free’ to marry a heterosexual or a homosexual. Nobody is “pushing” anything on your children except you. Your unchristianlike views and behavior. Your children should be ‘free’ to marry the human they love. Period.

  • Ack

    Actually, here in the good old USA at least, nobody is “free” to push any kind of sexuality onto anybody else.

  • James Carr

    Gay marriage becoming law does not make it right, or moral. What I see in the future is pressure on those Religions that can never accept it as natural or in the interest of the greater good.
    Abortion is legalized murder, and true Religions can never call it anything else…..same for euthanasia.
    In time I imagine an enraged public which will demand that Religious beliefs against common law is, in itself, illegal. Welcome to Babylon.

  • Religion News Service, where Kevin Eckstrom hires people vulgar enough to confuse corporate in house counsel (at Goldman Sachs, no less). with ‘conservatives’.

  • Neon Genesis

    You and Doc have clearly never heard of the No True Scotsman fallacy nor a brain.

  • bqrq

    If it is your “opinion” that it is morally righteous for young men to practice sodomy then it follows that it is also morally righteous for your mother, sister and daughter to do likewise (and to commit adultery). Can anyone tell us precisely how and why sodomy is morally righteous? How does it help young people?

  • socialjusticeNOW!

    Marriage is a Western patriarchal construct, as is homosexuality (*). Gay marriage deeply wounds the sincere religious sentiments of many religious people, and of course people of faith are disproportionately POC, making gay marriage part of the white supremacist machine.

    So I am not surprised to learn that conservatives increasingly support it.

    (*) Homosexuality is also imperialist. See Prof. Joseph Massad’s “Desiring Arabs.”

  • Neon Genesis

    So I guess you don’t believe there are gay people in the Middle East being persecuted by Muslim extremists then since you think homosexuality is a product of the West? If anything is a Western construct, it’s idiots like you.

  • Neon Genesis

    I wonder why your righteous God doesn’t intervene to stop gay marriage and abortion if they really are sins. Maybe Yahweh is on vacation or something like Baal was in the bible?

  • CarrotCakeMan

    “bqrq” seems to be obsessed with “sodomy.”

    Readers who would like to see the scientific evidence for why anti-gay posters are so obsessed with what they IMAGINE same gender couples do in private should Google “Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.”

  • CarrotCakeMan

    Massachusetts has had marriage equality for just days short of 11 years. If any anti-gay church has been “pressured,” by now that should be easy to document, but you didn’t, did you?

    Anti-gay cults will always be free to base their “beliefs” on homophobia, and the only “pressure” these cults will receive is what they already receive–public ridicule, like the many Americans who come out to make fun of the lead anti-gay church, the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kansas. I’m sure anti-gays are very angry Maggie Phelps-Roper was thwarted in her stated plan to disrupt the funeral of the late Leonard Nimoy.

    Comparing loving, committed American same gender married couples and their many children to murder is hate speech, nothing more.

  • James Carr

    Did you ever hear of Free Will? Didn’t think so.
    God allows us to wallow and swan dive into sin all we want…..as your comment clearly demonstrates.

  • James Carr

    Hate speech? That’s funny

  • solarskye@aol.com

    What? You never heard of what happened to Catholic Charities of Massachusetts after those gay marriage CULTISTS won in that state?

  • J

    Not me. I’m not a sinner. You’re on your own.

  • Ken

    You are 100% correct.

    The most sickeningly intolerant people are those that promote tolerance and diversity. Bible affirming Christians are heating above all else.

    Of course.

  • Ken

    They were persecuted out of business.

    The same demons that controlled Nero and his anti-Christian ways empower the Massachusetts rainbow jihadists.

    The most sickeningly intolerant people are those that promote tolerance and diversity. Bible affirming Christians are hated above all else.

    Of course.

  • JohnG

    Catholic Charities ended its adoption services in 2006 because it had fallen out of compliance with the state’s non-discrimination law that had been in place since 1989, not because of same-sex marriage. Over the course of about two decades, Catholic Charities had placed 13 children with same-sex couples. It was something they were already doing. When the hierarchy got wind of it, they forced the organization out of compliance with longstanding law, despite the unanimous vote by the 42-member board to continue making such placements.

    Shorter version: taxpayer money, taxpayer rules.

  • socialjusticeNOW!

    As Professor Joseph Massad of Columbia University and various queer theorists have explained, “homosexual identity” is a product of 19th century Western thought. It did not exist prior to that.

    The homosexual/heterosexual binary was imported into the Middle East from the West. So while there is homophobic persecution in the Middle East, it is only there because the West introduced “homosexual identity” there in the first place. Persecution of homosexuals in the Middle East, therefore, is the product of White colonialism.

    Decolonize your mind!

  • The Great God Pan

    It had nothing to do with gay marriage,

    They chose to stop doing adoptions in response to a decades-old law that required them not to discriminate against same-sex couples who wanted to adopt. They had been following the law all along and had placed 13 children with same-sex couples, then the state’s Bishops found out about it in 2005 and suddenly decided that they wanted an exemption. They didn’t get one, so the Bishops shut down the adoption service.

    Get some new facts. Your old ones are demonstrably false.

  • Larry

    Oh no! Its the Poe Poe.

    Sorry socialjusticeNOW!, but there is no way I am ever going to believe your posts are anything besides a parody of the most extreme leftist academic you can dredge up.

    You are not someone to take seriously.

  • CarrotCakeMan

    How many times a day do you obsess about “sodomy”?

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  • James Carr

    Looks like my prediction is beginning to bloom. The San Francisco Board of Supervisors has demanded that the Catholic Schools stop teaching Catholic dogma, or including related moral clauses in contracts…….because it goes against the national interest !!

    How revolting and ridiculous. Catholic Schools should teach what? In a word they can only educate using the lens of Catholic morality….or they cease being Catholic.

    San Francisco should be sued for encroaching on Church issues. Rotten city.

  • Ben in oakland

    Thank you for so proudly displaying the face of hate, ignorance and prejudice.

    Virtually every single professional and scientific organization that has the slightest thing to do with the subject would disagree with what you have to say vehemently. It not only blames innocent people for the crimes of others, it also serves to perpetuate the problem of children being molested.

    Jerry Sandusky, anyone?

    Educate yourself, before your reviling and slander (Corinthians 6) lands you a warm spot on God’s eternal BBQ. http://psy¬chology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

    On second thought, don’t. The look on your face when Jesus says to you “Get away from me. I never knew you” will be priceless.

  • Neon Genesis

    Did you ever hear the story of Sodom and Gomorrah? You fundies always trot out that farce of a story to prove homosexuality is immoral yet I don’t see God raining fire down on America. Even Massachusetts seems to have spared the wrath of God since legalizing gay marriage for the past decade and they don’t seem to be any worse off than the rest of the country. So where is your god at if he really hates gay marriage?

  • gary47290

    He’s your God, they’re your rules. You go to hell.

    My God is love, not the mean old white man of most conservatives.

  • gary47290

    Sodomy has nothing to do with homosexuality.

    49 Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, surfeit of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy.
    Ezekiel 16:49

    Sounds a lot like most of the conservatives in this country.

  • ben in oakland

    on vacation in provincetown?