• Cantor Penny Kessler

    Yes. This is a sermon I would have wanted to hear this Shabbat.

  • I wish you had been on his advisory team! Jeff, this is great – loved reading it!
    Shabbat Shalom, c

  • Jack

    You make a plausible point regarding his words against the Arabs (thought I’d have to see the full context), but I don’t agree regarding what he said about a Palestinian state.

    The first is a purely moral issue, but the second is a complex political issue. The second is simply short-hand for saying there can be no Palestinian state in the foreseeable future, since that would require a full Palestinian recognition of the reality and permanence of a Jewish state and a determination to live in peace with it. And anyone who thinks they’re even close to doing that has taken leave of reality.

    The road to real peace requires realism first and foremost, not wishful thinking.

  • Excellent sermon, Bibi. I’m glad Jeff Salkin was able to help you come to your senses. Onward!

  • jeff

    thats basically what he said on msnbc today. exactly.

  • Tzvi

    It’s cute but a rather silly sermon in light of political realities. Rabbi Salkin presumes to know everything there is to know about the present circumstances affecting daily decision-making and ongoing threats to the State of Israel. I think this in itself is a major error of judgment. It is not possible for you to know unless you are privy to vast amounts of intelligence information. Bibi presumably knows. As an incumbent leader he clearly wanted to retain his role as Prime Minister. Why? It’s not a fun job. It’s a stressful job with lives at stake with virtually every decision made. If he believed it were dangerous to the State for him to lose this election, then he will “play politics” and do what is necessary to win this election. People have to use their own discretion when voting. The people voted for him. Unless you’re a citizen, you could not do so. As for Arab-Israeli citizens voting for Arab parties, this is hardly a stretch of the imagination. Dismissing a two state solution (which was not actually said as such) is a political intensifier to tell the electorate there will be no rash decisions no matter how much pressure is applied on Bibi and his government by Obama or the EU or the PA. Annexing and deporting “Palestinians” was never stated and no one would agree to this. There is one line you mentioned that I think is correct and which, though short, is the crux of the entire matter: “But there’s one thing that we will not do. We will not commit national suicide.” Making a bad deal will be tantamount to national suicide because once land is given, it cannot be taken back… except in war… and if taken, only if justified. Israel did, after all, give Egypt back the Sinai for good reasons. Israel is not dealing with rational negotiators. They want 1967 if not more. Israel is not in a stable neighborhood. There is Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS, and the Iranian leadership. The sermon given this Shabbat should consist of a prayer for the State of Israel. Leave the “al chets” for Yom Kippur. By then there should hopefully be a stable Israeli government in place, and then you can throw around words alleging whatever you like (while avoiding slander).

  • Larry

    ” And anyone who thinks they’re even close to doing that has taken leave of reality. ”

    Anyone who thinks officially foreclosing the possibility of doing so has taken leave of reality as well. But that is what Bibi promised.

    A Palestinian State in the West Bank is an inevitability. Gaza already is a de facto Palestinian state.
    1) Its about 50 years too late for Israel to ethnically cleanse the area and
    2) Israel has zero desire to incorporate the area into a fully integral part of the nation.
    3) Creating an apartheid state in the West Bank is a bigger liability in all senses
    4) With the dwindling interest in the affairs of the Palestinian Authority (West Bank) by Arab neighbors, the fight has gone out from them. The foreign backers prefer to fund and arm ISIS instead.

  • Jack

    Larry, I prefer to interpret a person’s intentions by his views expressed over time, not by playing gotcha games and taking certain utterances out of context and coming to a conclusion that way.

    It’s obvious that Netanyahu and a solid majority of Israelis would have zero problem with a Palestinian state if its leaders and people were willing to accept the permanent reality of the Jewish state of Israel. But when you remove all the smoke and mirrors and double talk on the part of the Palestinians, what you’re left with is a continued belief that a destroyed Israel is preferable to a Palestinian state living side-by-side and peacefully alongside Israel. The PA’s merger with Hamas — the terrorist group infamous for lobbing tens of thousands of rockets into Israel — says plenty.

    Peace will only come when the Palestinians become convinced that Israel’s love of peace, however strong, is trumped by its determination to survive and thrive. The day they become convinced that if they harass Israel for a thousand years, Israel will still not succumb is the day that peace will come.

  • Jack

    Rabbi Salkin makes a heck of a lot more sense than most of the writers on this site, so even though this particular argument isn’t among his greatest hits, that’s okay. Besides, even here, he ultimately does demonstrate an understanding of Israel’s security needs. When the dust is settled, the rabbi will be found on the side of common-sense realism. He ultimately has far more in common with Netanyahu than with Bibi’s critics.

  • Larry

    You can’t even speak of the belief of the Palestinians in a singular term. They are in essence 2 sets of people with very different leadership, means of support and goals. Gaza has essentially become a hostile de facto Palestinian state. One which lost its main sponsor for weapons and money about 2 years ago.

    The West Bank under Fatah has been effectively neutralized as an existential threat to Israel (seriously when was the last time you heard of a major terrorist attack in the West Bank?). They too have lost their sponsors. (Arab nations would rather fund Islamicist proxy forces than old school radicals/secularists) The wall has been an effective strategy for Israel despite the criticism. Abbas is no Arafat. The guy is trying to be a Palestinian Gerry Adams, but lets be honest, he is a political non-entity.

    The PA’s merger with Fatah is PR. The old joke is that “ceasefire” is the Arabic word for “reload”. The two are physically separated from each other which keeps them from each other’s throats. They still consider each other a greater existential threat than Israel.

    Peace will happen in the near future for the same reason it happened in Northern Ireland. The belligerent terrorist nationalists are running out of money and weapons.

  • Steven

    “My post will no doubt be censored.” Yet ^there^ it remains…

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  • irwin

    Sorry Janet, you got it WRONG. Bibi did not make those statements. It was the rabbi who put those words out thinking you would fall for them as coming from the Israeli PM. Jeff Salkin is out to dupe you and apparently he did. Now it is time for you to come to your SENSES. When the terrorist give up their guns there will be peace. When the Israelis give up their guns…there will be no ISRAEL. SHALOM.