Calif. AG asks judge to halt initiative to kill gays

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California Attorney General Kamala Harris speaks at the Facebook headquarters in Menlo Park, Calif., on February 10, 2015. Photo courtesy of REUTERS/Robert Galbraith
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California Attorney General Kamala Harris speaks at the Facebook headquarters in Menlo Park, Calif., on February 10, 2015. Photo courtesy of REUTERS/Robert Galbraith *Editors: This photo can only be republished with RNS-CALIF-GAYS, originally transmitted on March 26, 2015.

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LOS ANGELES --The ballot initiative is given no chance of becoming law, but it gives sponsors a means to attract attention to their proposal. The initiative would authorize the killing of gays and lesbians "by bullets to the head'' or "any other convenient method.''

  • opheliart

    From the proposal:
    “Seeing that it is better that offenders should die rather than that all of us should be killed by God’s just wrath against us for the folly of tolerating-wickedness in our midst, the People of California wisely command, in the fear of God, that any person who willingly touches another person of the same gender for purposes of sexual gratification be put to death by bullets to the head or by any other convenient method,” the proposal continues.

    Sexual gratification? Hmm … there would be the Roman Catholic Institution’s version-the Greek Orthodox version-Baptist version—along with all those VERSIONS on what “God” is saying in Scripture. This would end up like the wild, wild west with the whole town dead. Maybe the teacher saying to the students: now children, keep your hands to yourself! is a smart order.

    Utterly disturbing to say the least.

  • James Carr

    I’m just going to enjoy the gay outrage over this proposal. It is tooooooooo funny!

  • Jack

    I wish the left were as serious about stopping ISIS, which actually kills gays, as it was about reporting about some lone moral dwarf in California (where else?).

  • Larry

    Me too, but until we get Turkey off our back about supplying the Kurds, not much is going on in that department.

    In the meantime let’s amuse ourselves as to vile bigots here can be.

  • Larry

    Oh Jimmy, if the measure had any chance of succeeding, you would be lobbying for it right now. 🙂

  • Jack

    I don’t buy that excuse, Larry. On dismembering ISIS, where there’s a will, there’s a way, and the problem is the will isn’t there. But I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree on that.

  • The Great God Pan

    Christianity: Still the best advertisement for atheism.

  • Anton

    One person’s “proposal that seeks to legalize discrimination and vigilantism” is another person’s RFRA.

  • Larry

    There is a will, but not with our Congress or our allies who are necessary to get the job done. Politics is a disgusting messy process. Moreso when other countries are involved.

    This is the perfect war for the US to get involved in from a PR point of view. But partisan sniping, fecklessness and cross-interests are getting in the way.

  • Doc Anthony

    Okay, so where’s Atheist Max today? This kind of story is what he lives for.

  • James Carr

    I believe he’s holding a 70 year old baker hostage in Indianapolis.

  • James Carr

    Atheism – still the best reason to finish high school.

  • Larry

    Because if it was up to fundies, you would be illiterate.

  • Jack

    On a number of issues, that’s the case, Larry. But on this issue, the principal obstacle is President Obama, who wants to keep pristine pure his legacy of winding down ground wars, not ramping them up.

    That’s a charitable interpretation of what’s going on…..

    And just to be clear, I am as critical of Bush as I am of Obama on this. Bush let the Sunni Triangle fester after the fall of Saddam, and that led to a downward spiral. Even when he broke that spiral — after four years of absolute dithering — with a successful surge, it was politically too late in America, as Americans had already turned decisively against the war.

  • Jack

    Atheist Max is fast asleep, dreaming sweet dreams of spontaneously generated universes……and of peaceful atheist leaders like Mao and Stalin and Pol Pot holding hands and singing kumbayah….

    Shiny happy people…..

  • Be Brave

    Lar, Lar, Lar, Lar, Larry . . . Harvard, along with so many, many, many, many other fine universities were founded by Christians. And many schools were once in Churches. And the Bible, before the vice and violence (godless value systems) took over the public education arena, used to be a text book. You know, when STD’s and pregnant teens were not part of the curriculum.


  • Be Brave

    Who cares.

    Dust people are so bitter and mean, we are better off not having to endure their vitriol and hatefulness.

    Let’s just breathe in the fresh air of a time out. Too soon the stench of sweaty freethink will swell up the sinuses.

  • Be Brave

    What’s the suicide rate in the LGBT community again?

    Shouldn’t this idiot Matthew McLaughlin just let nature take its course and shut up?

    Or how about praying for these lost souls instead of wishing them harm?

  • Anton

    When education and indoctrination were the same thing, many religious folks saw education and knowledge as a virtue. But over time, education and the accumulation of knowledge no longer supported indoctrination. This led to institutes of higher education separating themselves from the religions that founded them. It also explains much about in the anti-education, anti-intellectual, anti-science stances that many religious folks hold today. These people are so wed to their own indoctrination that self-imposed ignorance is seen as a virtue.

  • Larry

    Just Obama?

    You have a Congress not willing to authorize any kind of overt involvement, especially in Libya.

    You have allies like Turkey and Iraq who are scared to death about supporting the Kurds. The only group within Syria and Iraq, actively fighting ISIS on the ground successfully.

    You have the fact that we don’t want to support the current Syrian government and are too wimpy to support the nascent Libyan one.

  • Larry

    That is why the Madrassas of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are the most advanced higher education centers in the world.

    Why so there is such advanced scientific research coming from Liberty U and Bob Jones University. 🙂

    Btw BB, STD’s and pregnant teens were always part of the curriculum. Its just that they tucked them away from polite conversation. Because Christians can always be counted on to be complete liars when faced with embarrassing situations.

  • Billysees

    It is ‘better’ NOT…to do anything…that will be considered unfriendly to others. So whatever you believe about anything, keep between yourself and God…….Romans 14:21….and the 1st sentence of Romans 14:22

    A biblical challenge.

  • Nick

    Right. Because Christian Leaders like Hitler and Mussolini was so peace loving right?

  • Nick

    And yet those fine universities pop out the greatest minds of this planet. Who btw are in fact Atheists. Whoops.