3 things pastors should learn from Robert Schuller (COMMENTARY)

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Robert Schuller, founder of the Crystal Cathedral. Photo courtesy of Hour of Power ministries.

Robert Schuller, founder of the Crystal Cathedral. Photo courtesy of Hour of Power ministries.

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(RNS) As America continues to see a rise of those who claim “none” as their spiritual affiliation, church leaders would do well to contemplate the legacy of Robert Schuller.

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  • Ron T

    If there is a rise of “nones” then it due to the difficulty of being a practicing Christian. Christian life is not a “bed of roses”. Jesus, said “take up your cross and follow me”. Accepting Christ as your personal savior means dying to oneself and willing to walk the narrow road.

    There are many Christians around the world that are suffering insurmountable obstacles, yet they choose to follow Christ in spite of persecution and suffering? Why? — Because, they truly have come to understand what it means to “take up your cross and follow me”.

    Everyone must watch “Myriam’s story and song” on youtube. It’s the story of a ten year old girl who lost her home and all the comfort she had ever known in ten years of her life and now lives in a refugee camp, but is still able to stand firmly on her faith and is able to talk about forgiveness and even manages to sing a beautiful song. She is the testimony of ‘take up your cross and follow me”. She is a true disciple of Christ.

  • Ron T

    To whom much is given much will be expected!

  • Mike

    Rev. Schuller was a trailblazer who took a mean, jugemental god hung up over sin out of Christianity and preached the God of love Jesus presented. We owe a lot to Schuller for doing that.

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  • Brother Gerald PS PO VP RQ ZZ OK

    Hey, Mike Schuller, how’s it going? I guess you owe a lot to your daddy too. You did darn well out of all the people he fleeced. What a huge con job!

  • Christianity is at war with itself:

    “Judge NOT that ye be not judged” – JESUS (Matthew 7:1)

    Oh Really Jesus?

    “Execute them”- JESUS (Luke 19:27)
    “Hate Them” – JESUS (Luke 14:26)
    “Avoid Them” – ROMANS (16:17)
    “Do not associate with the GUILTY..” (1 Corinthians 5:11)
    “Bad company….” (1 Corinthians 15:33)
    “Do not even to eat with such a one.” (1 Corinthians 5:11)
    “Do not receive him…or greet him..” (2 John 1:10)
    “tell him his fault.” (Matthew 18:15)
    “Have nothing to do with him!” (Titus 3:9-11)
    “LET HIM BE REMOVED” (1 Corinthians 1:13)
    “In the name of Jesus..keep away from him!” (2 Thess 3:6)
    “CURSE HIM” – (1 Cor. 16:22)
    “Deem them unworthy” – JESUS (Matt 10:13)

    Christianity is a nightmare of absolute claims – all of which are at war with themselves. Jesus is just dangerous legends and myths – that’s all.

  • Greg

    Yes there is always that healthy balance between having sound Trust in God, but at the same time, a wholesome fear as, well: Rom 8:1-14; Gal 5:19-21; 6:7-8, Luke 12:5. But only die in one state: be in Love with Jesus…

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  • @Pressley,

    “we are to rebuke people who…”

    Yes….And Jesus in Luke 19:27 says we should “EXECUTE THEM.”

    Thanks for the Bible lesson. You remind me why Christianity is terrifying.

  • Greg

    Atheist, you should know by now that you are referring to a parable of what will happen to people who suppress their God given talents in this life, upon entering the next life. Romans 12:19 has, “Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”

  • Carolyn George

    Gee Max, you are ridiculous. But thanks for sharing.

  • Bob

    Greg, thanks for reinforcing the point that your “god” is a vengeant and vicious jerk. No thanks, you can keep your sicko sky fairy story. There is no divine being in it that should be adulated.

  • Bob

    Max made some great points. You clearly can’t rebut them.

  • @Greg,

    “I will repay, says the Lord.”

    Your Lord can stick it.

    He has some nerve. “Repay”? Obviously your Lord has no clue what Pay and Repay even mean for I have paid him nothing.

    By the way – why not let him? Ever think of that?
    Why is it so important for religious people to pick up that cudgel and bang it over Atheist’s heads in THIS life? Why not let God do it as he claims he will in the next life?

    Because you don’t believe in God either.
    Freud called it repression.

    In order to convince yourself that your God is real you must punish those who don’t believe – it enables you to continue pretending to yourself. How selfish of you, right? Harming others for your own benefit.

    The most vocal claimant is the one who is secretly a non-believer.
    Just as the loudest gay basher is always the Gay guy.

  • Greg

    Max, Don’t take my word for it, just read the 25th chapter of Matthew. As to whether you like it or not, we will all experience both our personal Judgment at the end of our lives, as well as the Great Judgment at the summation of time. And for the record, God is God. He is Who He IS. And, for all eternity, for ever and ever and ever, you will either be in eternal ecstasy, or eternal torment. The choice is yours. And you can never say that you haven’t been cautioned regarding this matter. God is waiting for you to come home.

  • Greg,

    “eternal ecstasy, or eternal torment. The choice is yours.”

    So God is making an offer you can’t refuse. Like a mafia boss.
    And yet you tell me there is a choice?

    Where is your evidence for any of this nonsense? Where is your evidence that death is actually some sort of continued living?
    You sound hysterical.

  • Greg

    Max, take a look around, and tell me all of this world created itself, due to attractive forces, and energies. All organic matter is designed to degenerate, not generate. Look at what happens to a dead dog. Keep it in your home, and it stinks in a few days. That is because it degenerates. Why would a world of organic matter, which is inclined to degenerate, generate. Think about it. Look at Mars, or any other planet. Your position is silly.

  • Greg,

    “Max, take a look around, and tell me all of this world created itself..”

    1. Prove that it didn’t!
    2. Prove a god did it.
    3. Prove Yahweh did it.
    4. Prove Jesus is the son of Yahweh
    5. Prove that your answer is the only answer!

    If you can’t do any of that, then I suggest you read some science books and expand your history education.

    Your reading assignments:

    “Animal Farm” – George Orwell
    “Origin of the Species” – Charles Darwin
    “A Universe from Nothing” – Lawrence Krauss
    “Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire” – Gibbon
    “The Magic of Reality” – Richard Dawkins
    “Life after Faith” – by former pastor, Jerry DeWitt
    “The God Virus” – Darrell Ray

    Otherwise stop claiming your Jesus is real. The vast libraries available through the internet have already destroyed that myth.

  • Michael Glass

    It’s interesting that the writer mentioned the rise of the “nones”. If the mega churches were so successful, why are people walking away from belief?

    I think the answer may be found in the trashing of the religious band because of scandals in mega-churches and child sexual abuse in Catholic and other churches. However, the thing that really sets it off is the actions of Islamic extremists. This makes people look again at all atrocities done in the name of religion, whatever the brand might be.

    In the Australia, the percentage of people writing “no religion” in the 1966 census was 16.5% but in 2001, this dropped to 15.5%. The 2001 census, which was taken in July 2001, just before 9/11, revealed a drop in the numbers of those who distanced themselves from religion. However, in 2006, the no religion percentage was 18.7% and in 2011, this had further increased to 22.3%.

    I believe the actions of Islamic extremists have helped to trash the reputation of religion in general.

  • Alan

    “All organic matter is designed to degenerate, not generate.”
    No Greg, all organic matter regenerates itself. Nature is all that exists and all that occurs naturally, which doesn’t require a human-like persona to function as it clearly does on its own. We are all part of nature, not separate from it. A newborn child is evidence of regeneration as much as a star birth or a sprouting seed. The very idea that nature can’t do what it obviously does is just a con to make room for a god (a human-like persona) which is honestly just an invention of human self aggrandizement.

  • “God is God”

    And turnips are turnips.
    Wait. Turnips really are turnips.

    God is not God – God is just your assertion, your claim and your gullibility.

  • Greg

    Alan, you are confusing reproduction, with regeneration. Degeneration tends to bring things to their lowest form. But just think simply about the reproductive system. Why don’t we have just one? Why does a woman’s ovary release one egg every 28 days?, and why carry for 9 months?, why do chickens lay eggs?, why do cats and dogs have litters?. Just think of the complexities of only the reproductive system! We haven’t even considered the brain, or the nervous system attached to the brain that runs throughout the body, or how joints have such a complex of tissues. I took Anatomy and Physiology and man I was just amazed. A&P is simply the body, and how it works, but that type of science doesn’t even know why it works, and they readily admit it. Why all these things? If a scientist can even unravel one of these, he’d be God.

  • @Greg,

    “Why does a woman’s ovary release one egg every 28 days?”

    You are in desperate need of a science education. You have no knowledge of why women evolved this feature?
    We are evolved beings – we evolved on earth to live on earth.

    We sleep – like all other animals – because our life cycle has evolved to the conditions on earth.

    Good grief!!
    Read “Origin of the Species” by Charles Darwin and snap out of it.