Lonely widower takes lead in landmark gay marriage case

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Jim Obergefell of Cincinnati is photographed in his living room. He and John Arthur married in Maryland because gay marriage is not legal in their home state of Ohio. After his husband died, Obergefell sued his state because Ohio won't allow his name on Arthur's death certificate. Now his case is in front of the U.S. Supreme Court. Photo courtesy of The Enquirer/Carrie Cochran, via USA Today

Jim Obergefell of Cincinnati is photographed in his living room. He and John Arthur married in Maryland because gay marriage is not legal in their home state of Ohio. After his husband died, Obergefell sued his state because Ohio won't allow his name on Arthur's death certificate. Now his case is in front of the U.S. Supreme Court. Photo courtesy of The Enquirer/Carrie Cochran, via USA Today

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CINCINNATI — "It isn't about the money," Obergefell said. "John's final record as an Ohioan -- as an American -- deserves to be accurate. And our marriage -- our legal marriage -- deserves respect."

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  • James Carr

    So gays can marry the dead, too? Wow, they are really progressing……

  • Larry

    Marrying the dying. The guy survived 18 months of in a hospice setting before shuffling off his mortal coil.

    Snarkers gotta snark.

  • Doc America

    “His life has become a blur of public appearances, interviews, photos and videos.”

    Yep. As expected. A story like that one, a poster boy like that one, a salesman with THAT kind of tear-jerker drama, well you just KNOW the Gay Marriage Cult was gonna put Mr. Obergefell among their top evangelists.

    But the fact is that what Mr. Obergefell is doing, he is doing AGAINST God. What he has done since 1993, he has done against God. No joke.

    Now we’ve **all** done stuff against God, me too. Sort of a Romans 3:23 thing, you know. And we all know somewhere what loneliness feels like, yes.

    But we need to be honest about stuff too. Gay “relationships”, gay “marriage”, are ALWAYS against God, according to the You-Know-What.

    Here’s a quick list of Bible verses. 10 seconds to read it, 10 seconds to understand it. Go click if you dare.

    http://www.witnessfortheworld.org/homont.html

    So let’s be honest. Gay marriage is killing America. We need help quick.

  • Doc Anthony

    Apologies for the typo error. Typing too fast again. It’s always “Doc Anthony”, not “Doc America.”

  • Larry

    Why all the ill will? That story has a happy ending for you. It features a dead gay guy.

  • Be Brave

    This is great for the NRA and gun owners nationwide.

    If we are all forced to recognize homosexual marriage “recognized and legalized ” in/from other states, well then, Concealed Carry “legalized and recognized” in other states will have to be recognized in every state as well.

    Let us recognize constitutional rights.

    Well. well. well, let freedom ring.

  • Bobbi

    If you have read the article, they got married BEFORE his death. If you want to be narrow minded at least get your facts straight so you don’t look ridiculous.

  • Doc Anthony

    No ill will at all, Larry. We all like hearing a good story, a good drama. That’s what the Lifetime Channel is for.

    But this isn’t a good story at all. This is not a happy ending at all. This is something ***bad*** that is affecting this entire nation, and taking it down quickly, like a virus on steroids. This thing of forcing Ohio (or any other state) to do the Gay Marriage Cult’s bidding, has NO upsides to it.

    I don’t expect you to recognize or accept that assessment. I’m not even asking you to. But I am comfortable with pointing that out myself. Because honestly, somebody needs to point it out. Somebody somewhere. Just that simple.

  • Cranmer

    What’s amazing is how stories like this go to show that gay marriage is NOT killing America and that in fact, they look much like straight people who want to be good citizens, kind individuals and loving families. Your worship of the Bible blinds you to the truth.

  • Doc Anthony

    By the way Larry, you must hate Christians a lot, to make the kinds of accusations you do. Got a lotta baggage there with you. Want to talk about it sometime?

  • Bobbi

    What would Jesus do? Would he judge or sit down and share a meal with them? If you want to preach at least be christian about it. Gay marriage is not killing the country it is the hatred that is so thoughtlessly spread to others.
    If, as the article says, marriage is made for childbearing and child rearing then we really need to crack down on babies born out of wedlock, divorce, and absentee parents. The pendulum swings both ways. You cannot denounce one without denouncing them all.

  • Billysees

    Larry,
    “Why all the ill will?”

    Good question. Here are a couple of solutions —

    Be peaceable and considerate, and always to be gentle toward everyone…….Titus 3:2

    Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven………..Luke 6:37

  • Doc Anthony

    Most all of us, at least as children, grow up wanting to be “good citizens”, “kind individuals”, and have “loving families.”

    But we also live in a fallen, broken, sinful world, and things happen. Some stuff we RNS readers, may happen to hear about, and some stuff only God will ever know about. So things get kinda screwed up sometimes, even with the BEST people, with the BEST circumstances, with the BEST of intentions. Sometimes sin gets in there and takes root.

    And sometimes, an entire nation somehow starts getting the virus or getting the addiction. We start calling good evil and evil good. We stop letting God’s Word be the final arbiter of what’s good and what’s not. We start saying God or Jesus or the Bible just plain got it wrong or made us gay or whatever. Nothing wrong with gay marriage, we say.

    Now our entire nation is about to officially say that, later this summer. We ARE in trouble, Cranmer. We just are.

  • Doc Anthony

    It’s okay to share a table meal with them, Bobbi. Jesus would. You would. I would too.

    But that’s not what these folks are asking for, is it? Nope. They’re not asking for a table meal. They want something ELSE.

    The punchline on THIS story, the desired result on this story, is forcing the entire state of Ohio to officially recognize Gay Marriage. I’m sorry to say this, but there is even an element of exploiting a man’s death here — for just that one reason.

    This entire media story, as well written to the heartstrings as it is, is essentially a Sales-Pitch, an Evangelistic-Tract, a Marketing-Strategy. Why? To get you and I to accept gay marriage, and to agree that the State of Ohio (and all other sttes) MUST be FORCED to accept and do their official kowtow to Gay Marriage.

    I’m sorry but I don’t want to play along with that marketing strategy, Bobbi. There is something deathly wrong with it, and it’s not doing our nation any good.

  • Larry

    I don’t hate Christians at all. I just don’t take ones like yourself seriously. Those who define their religious belief in terms of who they hate and what absolute nonsense they accept as a given (and want others to accept under compulsion). The overwhelming majority of the faith does not believe as you do. Although you like to think you speak on behalf of all Christendom, you don’t.

    Fanatics like yourself want to give your religious views color of law. That requires opposition. It is the duty of anyone living in a free society to oppose such nonsense. It is also the sheer dishonesty of people like yourself which requires opposition. You consider Christianity as a license to hate, lie and force others to accept your views. It is not worthy of respect or civility.

  • Larry

    Because if you are not armed, you will be forced to marry a person of the same sex!!!!!!

    BB, just when I think Bible thumping bigots like yourself could not sink any lower, you show me that the abyss of silliness are almost infinite.

  • Neon Genesis

    You seem particularly obsessed with the subject of homosexuality. It seems like that’s all you ever post about on this site. I’m also curious about why you seem to think you’re such an expert on this subject if you’re really heterosexual. Methinks you are protesting too loudly about your own sexual preferences.

  • Neon Genesis

    You realize American laws aren’t made based on what the bible says right?

  • Neon Genesis

    I don’t believe you’re sorry one bit and I don’t believe for a second you really give a rat’s butt about any “exploiting” of this man’s death.

  • Neon Genesis

    What evidence do you have that America is in trouble because of gay marriage, Doc?

  • Billysees

    Anthony,

    ” We ARE in trouble…. We just are.”

    There’s no need to be fearful Anthony. Here’s why —

    1. Man’s ways are of the Lord, so how can we understand our own ways?…..Proverbs 20:24

    2. There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love……..1 John 4:18

    Because no. 2 is so important, it should be repeated —

    There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love……..1 John 4:18

    3. And so we know and ‘rely’ on the love God has for us…….1 John 4:16

    4. So then, banish anxiety from your heart…..Ecclesiastes 11:10

    That’s enough for now. They’re good to go.

  • Your Bible interpretation is outdated, misguided and misapplied. The writers of biblical scripture thought homosexuality was sinful just as they thought the world was flat. God also failed to clue the writers of biblical scripture in on the fact that slavery was unjust and that women shouldn’t be considered inferior. And let’s not even talk about how the writer’s of biblical scripture advocated that races be kept separate. As a Christian, I consider the Bible an inspired guidebook but it is not the final authority on all matters.

  • James Carr

    Well, there is no such thing as a gay marriage…..it is a political illusion to get the gay lobby off their porch. You haven’t figured that out yet?

  • James Carr

    Because marriage is a historically defined word that never included same sex couples. It is immoral to redefine the word to add something that does not belong. The door is now opened for adding any vile union to the word “marriage”.

  • Billysees

    Brent,

    “As a Christian, I consider the Bible an inspired guidebook but it is not the final authority on all matters.”

    I sometimes remind readers here what Paul said about his own writings, which helps explain your very comment —
    1. …our knowledge is partial and incomplete…
    2. …we see things imperfectly…
    3. All that I know now is partial and incomplete…
    (1 Corinthians 13:9,12)

    I think we need to discover or uncover new and better ways of understanding an issue than rely solely on scripture, which according to Paul, is too incomplete and imperfect.

  • John

    Well said

  • Eric

    The world is broken because millions of people choose to live thier lives based on make believe stories, created by men, a long ago. The real world would suit our future MUCH better.

  • Christian Sanzo

    If there’s no such thing as gay marriage why are there so many gay marriages? You make no sense.

  • Christian Sanzo

    Doc Anthony — You and yours keep saying that we’re “in trouble” due to gay marriage, but there’s no proof of that. Anywhere. Not so long ago people like you complained about how promiscuous gay men allegedly were. Now they want to settle down, get married and in some cases raise children and yet you’re still not happy. Here’s a tip: MYOB. And stop obsessing about what gay men get up to in the bedroom.

  • Christian Sanzo

    Doc Anthony — Let’s say that I live in Ohio and I get married to my fiance Janet. In getting married are we “forcing the entire state of Ohio to officially recognize” our marriage? Of course not. Most people won’t even know, or care, that we got married. The same goes for gay couples. They’re getting married all over the country now and you don’t even know about it. Even if a married gay couple lived next door to you, could they “force” you to recognize their marriage. No way! And guess what — they wouldn’t care whether or not you recognized their marriage. What’s not doing our nation any good are folks like you who won’t just let people live their lives without you not being able to MYOB.

  • Christian Sanzo

    Brent Childers — Great comment sir!

  • Christian Sanzo

    Be Brave — Your inappropriately named because you’re the exact opposite of brave. You’re a coward. Gays are getting married so you need to get a gun? While you’re at it, get a grip.

  • Billysees

    Christian,

    ” In getting married… Most people won’t even know, or care, that we got married. ”

    Interesting way of observing the issue.