• opheliart

    “But, If Jews do not allow the world to compare the Holocaust to other genocides, then its relevance to the world will wither.

    And when that happens, Jews would be inflicted by moral laryngitis, losing their ability to speak truth to the world.”

    *And there is the ‘katastrofi’ on the island of Chios in 1822.


  • opheliart

    Approximately three-quarters of the population of 120,000 were killed, enslaved or died of disease.[7][8] It is estimated that 2,000 people remained on the island after 21,000 managed to flee, 52,000 were enslaved and 52,000 massacred.[9] Tens of thousands of survivors dispersed throughout Europe and became part of the Chian Diaspora. Another source says that approximately 20,000[10][11][12] Chians were killed or starved to death.

    *statistics vary, but my research yrs ago shows this to be fair; IOW, you get a sense of the devastation for the Chians.

  • Larry

    There is nothing sillier than, “the Jews are keeping us from talking about genocides besides the Holocaust”. The reason we talk about the Holocaust today is because its survivors, victims, witnesses (and in many cases perpetrators and prosecutors) tell their story for the world to hear.

    The only thing which stops people from telling the stories of genocides of their own people is their own reticence. If you are annoyed that your people’s story has not been told, then its about time to tell it.

    All these stories need to be told. Who better to do it than those relating to its victims. We need more oral histories of prior and subsequent genocides. The more the world hears of this stuff, the less acceptable it becomes to the public. The Holocaust was in many ways unique, but in many more, similar to others. The more parallels we see, the more we condemn such actions in the future.

    “Never Again” should never refer to just one incident of genocide, but to all.

  • Trent

    We were a Christian nation, but we lived as atheists

    Muslims invaded a Christian nation and now deny killing Armenians, that is very surprising, indeed!

  • Nathan Rolofson

    “Who still talks nowadays of the extermination of the Armenians?” -Adolf Hitler, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obersalzberg_Speech

  • The author, Rabbi Salkin, was (I think) offering a self-assessment, a commentary (like a sermon) to his people…that setting too high a standard of what qualifies as a genocide (i.e. only extermination on the order of the Holocaust) is destructive, overlooking the complex horrors of genocides. It’s one attitude (of many) that can be observed within the Jewish community and as a leader he is speaking openly and directly about it.

    He is expanding the natural response of “it happened to us” to ‘it’s happened (& happening) to others and humanity must address it’. He highlights the brotherhood of man by comparing two groups (which have been perceived to be opposed (Jews and Christians) ) recalling their similar sentiments when reflecting their separate tragedies.

    If we respond negatively to the Turkish reluctance to address their genocide, let’s recall the US reluctance to avoid discussion of the Native American genocide. And let us remember the Belgian Congo.

  • Larry

    To be honest I was not accusing Rabbi Salkin of anything from my 1st paragraph. But it is a common argument bandied about by others. I understand what he was trying to say.

    “If we respond negatively to the Turkish reluctance to address their genocide, let’s recall the US reluctance to avoid discussion of the Native American genocide. And let us remember the Belgian Congo”

    Why of course. I wouldn’t want it any other way. Ghosts of the past need to be addressed if we are ever to exorcise them.

  • Well said.

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  • John W

    Actually Francis did not call the Armenian atrocity a “genocide.”

    His statement was- very typically of him- carefully crafted to appear to say something without actually saying it.

    Instead of calling the massacre a genocide he quoted a former pope John Paul II who was himself only citing what is “generally referred to” as a genocide.

    Francis retaining plausible deniability as always. Sadly few dissect his statements sufficiently enough to see through his obfuscations

  • Mike

    Many, many thanks to the rabbi and to you for publishing this. If there are two people who understand each others pain it’s the Armenians and the Jews. Two people with similar histories, similar virtues and persecuted for the same reasons. I wish the Israeli government would put aside politics and recognize the genocide of Armenians. Armenia, of course, recognizes the Shoah and has a monument for its commemoration. Turkey and Azerbaijan are fair-weather friends of Israel. Their culture, religion is essentially anti-Jewish.