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  • opheliart
  • The one big question this article doesn’t even ask — much less attempt an answer, or at the very least, admit there isn’t any answer yet — is why it took 2.5 years (yes, over 2 years!) for Finn to resign after his guilty plea. Not only did Pope Benedict sit on the problem of Bishop Finn for months, but Francis sat on it for 2 years after taking office.

    I get that the Vatican takes forever to do things, but saying they habitually move slow is not a useful or valid explanation for why they they moved slow on the matter of Bishop Finn. It’s just an excuse for why they chose not to act for far too long, and it provides them “cover” for their lackadaisical handling of the problem.

    Even so, it’d have been nice if the article addressed this point. At the moment it appears to be a glaring omission.

  • Judy Jones

    Finally Bishop Finn has been ousted. But this delayed removal should only be the beginning.
    The sex abuse and cover up within the church hierarchy throughout the world is still going on to this day. Cardinals and bishops are still not removing accused predator clergy, and they are not reporting to law enforcement. The church’s so called “zero tolerance” policy is not being followed by the bishops who created it. Hopefully, now that other church officials know that it is possible to be held accountable for covering up child sex crimes, children will be protected rather than the predator. Like we say, this is only a start for holding accountable those who cover up child sex crimes.

    Judy Jones, SNAP Midwest Associate Director, USA, .snapjudy@gmail.com,
    SNAP (Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests)

  • Greg

    Judy, Usually these things are signs of a society as a whole. That said, if our society continues to deteriorate at the pace it is presently on, then the only escape from all this filth will be the building of a castle, sealed off from the world, with drop gates for entering. The way to destroy a society is to destroy the youth. And whether it be filthy dirty men/women joining Christian ministries to have access to kids, or social workers, or school teachers, or day care centers, or anywhere else that provides easy access to children, will be places that must be avoided at all cost by the parents. The other issue is giving children cell phones with access to social media. Children at ages of less than 10 are reading about intercourse and other things they are not mature enough to comprehend. This as well destroys children, and ultimately, society. Parents better wake up soon, or the end of society as we know it, will soon be over.

  • Re: “Usually these things are signs of a society as a whole. That said, if our society continues to deteriorate at the pace it is presently on, then the only escape from all this filth will be the building of a castle, sealed off from the world, with drop gates for entering.”

    For years now the Church and its apologists have been saying something similar. The American bishops even paid John Jay College to blame priestly pedophilia on the sexual revolution (http://www.webcitation.org/5ymiJCWAK). But while “society” may change, it’s “people” who make their own choices. “Society” does not put a gun to a priest’s head and make him abuse kids, nor does it force bishops into not reporting abuse.

    And even if “society” negatively affects priests and bishops, the R.C. Church claims to be a godly institution, whose clergy are thoroughly vetted, morally-upstanding men (and in the case of nuns, women) who ought not be easily influenced by “the World” or by the Forces of…

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  • Greg

    PsiCop: Like it or not, priests/bishops are no different than the rest of us in terms of sin. Yes, if they have been ordained, their souls have been ontologically changed so to be a mini-Christs, with the authority to confer the sacraments in his name (baptize, Confirm, forgive sins, Anoint, confect the Eucharist, etc.), however, priests must receive the sacraments from other priests, and struggle just like the rest of us to remain in the State of Grace. That said, we must pray for our priests, that they do not succumb to the temptations of the Devil. There is no greater prize for Satan, than landing a priest in hell for all eternity, so to torment him over and over and over forever and ever and ever. So of course society affects the Church. The only area the Church cannot err is doctrine and dogma, because Jesus promised that, but everyone in the Church, including priests & bishops, are targets of the Devil, who tries to destroy them personally, and tarnish the Church’s image.

  • Re: “Like it or not, priests/bishops are no different than the rest of us in terms of sin.”

    Maybe, but then you proceed to contradict that, when you say, “Yes, if they have been ordained, their souls have been ontologically changed so to be a mini-Christs …”. This strongly suggests precisely the opposite. But then you dance back with “priests … struggle just like the rest of us to remain in the State of Grace.” I have no idea how they can both be “mini-Christs” (and Christ was sinless, mind you) yet still “struggle” with sin.

    Re: “There is no greater prize for Satan, than landing a priest in hell for all eternity, so to torment him over and over and over forever and ever and ever.”

    So priests can only fail because of the Devil. Got it.

    Re: “So of course society affects the Church.”

    Maybe, but it can go both ways. But in any event, “society” does not constitute a valid excuse for a priest’s failure to live up to his “mini-Christ” nature.