Judge orders NY transit agency to run ‘Killing Jews’ ad

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Commuters arrive at Grand Central Station on a Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) Metro North Railroad from Chappaqua, New York.

Commuters arrive at Grand Central Station on a Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) Metro North Railroad from Chappaqua, New York February 5, 2015. Photo courtesy of REUTERS/Mike Segar

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NEW YORK (Reuters) The ad portrays a menacing man wearing a scarf and includes a quotation: "Killing Jews is Worship that draws us close to Allah" attributed to "Hamas MTV.

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  • opheliart

    Koeltl said he was “sensitive” to the security concerns, but noted that the MTA and Chairman Thomas Prendergast “underestimate the tolerant quality of New Yorkers and overestimate the potential impact of these fleeting advertisements. It strains credulity to believe that New Yorkers would be incited to violence by ads that did not incite residents of Chicago and San Francisco.”

    Assuming those in NY and … have lived in NY and … long enough to see this ad as neurotic, but what of the many newcomers from other countries entering NY and … looking for a community that fits their agendas and inner desires?

  • Glyndon Morris

    Please cite specific references from the Qu’ran that support your argument. Know that for each reference you cite, I can find one–at least–from the Christian Bible that is equally menacing. For every act of violence perpetrated by a Muslim, or in the name of Islam, there are equally violent examples from Christian history. Muslims are humans just like Christians: broken people made in the image of God.

  • opheliart
  • Larry

    Dont worry. Between the general state of disrepair, rodents, filth, roving homeless people and wayward CHUD’s, few visitors pay attention to the ads on the subways.

    Besides, I have faith in the immaturity of New York residents that these ads will probably be defaced or “Ms. Marvel’ed” like they did in San Francisco.

  • Fourth Valley

    You DO know that the people putting the posters up are not Muslims but rather anti-Muslims who wish to present a strawman version of Islam, correct??

  • Mike R

    Are you claiming that statement within quotes was not made by Muslims?

  • opheliart

    I’m not getting the sense that Koetle cares, although I believe he should.

  • Garson Abuita

    Opheliart, the judge is well aware that the ad buyer is anti-Muslim, it;’s in the first sentence of his decision.

  • Larry

    Its from Hamas. Akin to quoting the KKK as an example of Christian religious belief. Even a good deal of Muslims in the region think badly of them.

  • opheliart

    Again, Garson, I am not getting the sense that he cares—either way—did you mean to comment to Mike R.?

  • Garson Abuita

    No, my response was to you Ophelia. The anti-Islam viewpoint of AFDI certainly was relevant to the case. In that sense the judge “cared” about it.

  • opheliart

    Garson,
    my point was this:

    But Judge John Koeltl rejected the argument and said the ad was protected under the US constitution, which enshrines the principle of free speech.
    The ad is paid for the American Freedom Defense Initiative.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-32407880

  • opheliart

    Which implies that someone verbally/and in writing … can say ANYTHING. No one can be censored or “deleted” anywhere for anything, unless it is slanderous (laws for this?—how explicit?). They can’t punch you in the face, but they can insult you and discriminate through the FREE SPEECH enshrined in the US Constitution.

  • Larry

    “They can’t punch you in the face, but they can insult you and discriminate through the FREE SPEECH enshrined in the US Constitution.”

    Pretty much.

    Its all provided it isn’t directly personal (unless you are a public figure) or libelous/slanderous, or some form of fraud. The 1st Amendment is to protect speech which is unpopular, not the stuff everyone can agree on. The ads are inflammatory garbage. But even inflamatory garbage has a right to be heard.

    In SF, street artists responded by using a comic book character (who happens to be a Muslim Pakistani-American teenage girl) to fight back
    http://www.worldreligionnews.com/issues/ms-marvel-combats-islamophobia-bus-ads