• Ben in oakland

    Jernigan wants to claim, in typical fashion for those in the anti-ex-gay industry, that with God, all things are possible.

    Absolutely, but is it in his will?

    I’ll quote my friend Timothy about this:

    “They prayed for orientation change, believing that this is what God wanted them to do. Over time, it became pretty clear that it wasn’t going to happen, and over time God’s will on the matter was revealed…But to them it became evidence that they were wrong about what God demanded of them.

    “Sure, to a Christian, God can do anything. But “God, make me young and beautiful forever” is a prayer that is vain and contrary to his revealed will. They’ve come to see that so too is “God, make me straight.”

    Sure, God may some day decide he wanted to turn a gay person straight…but pretty clearly he had no desire to do so to them. And they weren’t going to spend any more time begging God to make changes that he obviously didn’t want to make.”

    Just in case anybody cares,…

  • James Carr

    Why be afraid of this documentary? Doesn’t America have to suffer through Gay documentaries without protest? Gimme a break.

  • Greg

    Interesting story, and good for Jernigan: God Bless him. The opposite seems to be happening to Bruce Jenner. This shows how electing to be gay, or straight, in many cases is a lifestyle “choice.”

  • Diogenes

    I am curious, why do LGBT oriented students enroll in theologically conservative institutions? If they have any cognitive awareness they must know beforehand that they are going to be exposed to a educational environment which is framed by a different paradigm than the one they have framed for themselves. I can only conclude that it is predicated on a narcissistic insistence that the whole world and all institutions affirm their world view. No class of individuals can rationally expect that.

  • Nate

    I saw this documentary and I rejoiced with him. Rejoiced that he has a family and he is at peace and loves Jesus. But, that does not mean that an LGBTQ person cannot have the same thing. Let me suggest something, if BIOLA is not wanting to hold a seminar on Conversion Therapy, then have a symposium outside campus. Invite the public and certainly all students. Let this issue be heard. If this is so important then why not be proactive instead of complain.

  • I am so sick and tired of this argument as are most “real” Christians. First of all if students are offended by conservative views at a Christian College …duh…then attend a liberal one of which there are plenty in this country. Nobody told you that you had to have a Christian education. If they can’t understand that then perhaps they don’t even belong in college.

    Second, why call yourself a Christian if you aren’t willing to live by Gods revealed will…His Word…the bible. Romans 1 is quite clear about homosexual relationships. If you don’t like that truth…then perhaps you are among the ones who God gave up. Romans 1:24

    Your argument is with God…not the rest of the world that take Him at His word.

  • Dear Mr Cruz,

    Your bias on this issue shines through brightly. You obviously do not “intimately understand” the issues surrounding running a Christian University or even what it means to be a Christian. Assuming that you do because you experienced some resistance while foisting your own misguided sexuality upon the scene is self-centered and childish at best.

    The very first priority for any Christan or Christian organization ought to be honoring God in all that they do. That is a futile and impossible task if they are unwilling to heed His commands. Jesus said, “if you love me….keep my commands.”

    Unfortunately our society is self-centered and folks wants what they want now. This ideal precludes individuals from relying upon Gods provision. That in a nut shell describes the effort of most people attempting to escape any sinful nature.

    Hebrews12:4 says, Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin. I’m glad that Jesus did not give up so…

  • Historically the Church has been so wrong and abusive on so many fronts and issues of equality. Additionally, LGBT people have faith too!!

  • Dan

    So, simply because the Church has been wrong and abusive in certain areas (all of which contradict clear Biblical teaching), that immediately means that they are wrong here? Your premise doesn’t match the conclusion. That’s like saying, “Michael has been wrong and even abusive on so many fronts, therefore you cannot trust him when he says pedophilia is wrong.” It’s non-argument. It’s the genetic fallacy you are promoting here.

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  • Miles

    I find it intriguing that Mr. Cruz dropped “Christian” from his Twitter profile. I’ve been reading his articles for several months now and not once did I catch a heart felt testimony as to what his faith meant to him from a spiritual perspective. Please send me a link I’d love to read it.

    We all sport several identities; gender, political, age, race, sports fan, sexual orientation, family relationships, Trekkie, whatever. But if you are a Christian, then that becomes primary, everything else is secondary. “For to me to live is Christ…”

  • Doc Anthony

    The current attack by gay activists and their political allies on “reparative therapy and conversion therapy”, is actually a raw attack on any Christian- or church-related professionals, psychologists or ministries, pastoral or lay counseling services, who believes and helps others to believe and apply the concept that the Bible clearly, VERY clearly teaches.

    That concept is that that you do NOT have to be gay or LGBT, that “Once Gay Always Gay” is NOT the truth; that such change really is possible as well as desirable. (From a Christian perspective, it’s found in 1 Cor. 10:13 and 6:9-11. Other religious groups have their own sources.)

    As such, Christian churches, clergy, and counselors are AUTOMATIC potential targets of this attack. Let nobody think that, in any state carrying a ban on “conversion therapy”, Christian churches and clergy won’t be made to KOWTOW under penalty of law.

  • Larry (the atheist one)

    I love how “real christians” essentially means anyone who believes the same way as you do. As if you are the sole representative for all of Christendom and no other sect but your own has the official seal of approval.

    In most cases of students attending Christian colleges, the blame falls squarely on the parents who are trying to shoehorn their kids into these places and wasting gobs of money.

    Romans 1 is very clear about rape as a form of temple ritual. One thing is crystal clear from the New Testament, “love thy neighbor”. Very explicit. From Jesus himself as opposed to Romans which came from Paul. A man who never met Jesus in life. Yet many Christians like yourself look for excuses not to follow such clear unambiguous advice.

  • Larry (the atheist one)

    Many of these delusional parents will only pay for college if its a Christian school.

    More likely than not, I think the Bible thumping parents are expecting an education from one of these Christian madrassas will garner the ability child to “pray the gay away”.

  • Larry (the atheist one)

    Well its not therapy. Using the word is dishonest. No legitimate professional therapy organizations consider anything therapeutic (or even effective) from the ex-gay treatment nonsense. No professional psychological organization considers it to be of value. A lot of Bible thumping anti-gay quacks and hucksters swear by it.

    At best its religious inspired torture designed to attack the subject’s sense of self. If the anti-gay Christians running the program are lucky, drive the subject to suicide. A dead gay person is far more helpful than the actual concerns of the “patients”.

  • Atheist one,

    “Real Christians” are those who follow Jesus Christ…they believe His word and act upon it….not the ones who sit in a church once a week, Easter and Christmas. As for Romans 1, it clearly states vs 26: Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

    Simple… but some may read as you have. Especially if you think it’s natural to stick a penis in the place designed to eliminate waste.

    That said as much as I or any believer might try to make you understand…you simply can not. Here’s why…1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually…