• Joe

    As a Christian it’s quite hard to follow the two basic commandments that our Lord Jesus laid out for us, can’t imagine following 613 rules/laws/rituals laid out in OT for the followers of Judaism.

  • Joe

    The two great commandments that Jesus gave his followers are:

    “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and,
    ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.'”

  • Susan

    That quote comes from what you would call the “Old Testament” Jesus did not make it up. We say that in every single service.

    Many of the commandments apply to the Templ and do not apply today

  • opheliart

    Susan,

    Joe may be referencing the Gospels: Matthew, Mark and Luke.
    “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

    Peace

  • Larry

    The difference being the rules to love thy neighbor and love God are the only two within the Jewish faith where you don’t get a circumstantial opt-out.

    Some Christians look for excuses around them. Usually by declaring that being a judgmental d-bag is really part of love of God, therefore is greater than loving thy neighbor. (Or at least those are the excuses many Christians have given me)

    What most Christians do not get about Judaism is there is always an escape clause for various rules/laws/rituals in the OT if there is a greater moral stake involved. Talmudic commentary is full of them. The “big picture” being more important than most of the admittedly arbitrary rules. Things such as coming to someone’s aid, personal survival, upholding a greater good, comes before avoiding pig products or using lights on Sabbath. Or at least that is the interpretation for most of the Jewish faith. There are some groups which disregard such thinking.

  • Susan

    Larry, I would add that Christians think they know about Judaism because they have read what they call the “Old Testament”, but Judaism is a rabbinic religion. Most Christians know nothing about anything Jews have written or thought after the “Old Testament,” but if you don’t you know nothing about Judaism.

  • Garson Abuita

    Opheliart, that’s exactly Susan’s point. Jesus and the Gospels’ quote of “Love your neighbor as yourself” is itself a quote from Leviticus 19:18.

  • Susan

    Jesus was quoting what Jewish sages like Hillel were saying before the Gospels were written.

    “Love the Lord with all your heart and all your soul…” comes from Deuteronomy 6:4-9, not from Jesus.