Faith leaders want US to fund abortions of women raped by terrorists overseas

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A woman rescued from Boko Haram in Sambisa forest is seen celebrating her freedom at Malkohi camp for Internally Displaced People in Yola, Adamawa State, Nigeria on May 3, 2015. Hundreds of traumatised Nigerian women and children rescued from Boko Haram Islamists have been released into the care of authorities at a refugee camp in the eastern town of Yola, an army spokesman said. Photo courtesy of REUTERS/Afolabi Sotunde
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A woman rescued from Boko Haram in Sambisa forest is seen celebrating her freedom at Malkohi camp for Internally Displaced People in Yola, Adamawa State, Nigeria on May 3, 2015. Hundreds of traumatised Nigerian women and children rescued from Boko Haram Islamists have been released into the care of authorities at a refugee camp in the eastern town of Yola, an army spokesman said. Photo courtesy of REUTERS/Afolabi Sotunde *Editors: This photo may be republished with RNS-ABORTION-FUNDS, originally transmitted on June 3, 2015.

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(RNS) An interfaith group is pushing the Obama administration to allow U.S. aid to pay for abortions for women raped by Boko Haram and other militants.

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  • Greg1

    The legacy of Jesse Helms lives on. Good old Jesse; that was a very good man. So just because one evil was done (rape), a second evil should be performed to equalize the sin. The baby is also part of the woman. We have lost our conscience in this country.

  • Fmr Cath

    Two wrongs don’t make a right (so said my moma many times). There are plenty of people who want to adopt. These poor babies didn’t ask to be produced in this way (rape). They are still a human life before God and could grow up to be a wonderful person. They aren’t “trash” to be thrown away… And NO, taxpayers shouldn’t be funding this atrocity. “Faith” leaders should be ashamed of themselves for promoting this and they should consider that God will hold them accountable (blood-guilty).

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  • John McGrath

    Yeah, a great racist, that certainly does make him a very good man, doesn’t it?

  • John McGrath

    The verification system, with obscure pictures to pick, is ridiculous.

  • Larry

    There is something amiss with the comment system today. I left 2 comments here which never went through. Knowing this system, they will probably pop up in 24 hours.

  • Larry

    Gotta love the fetus worshipers. Not once is there any consideration for the health and conditions of these women who until recently were enslaved and repeatedly raped from that crowd. We get the usual, “a child of rape is a blessing of God” nonsense.

    How about this, if you are so concerned for the lives of these pregnant women and the potential children resulting from their enslavement, then pony up your own money and work with your church to use their resources to care for these women and provide adoption services for the children. Otherwise all you are doing is condoning slavery and rape as a tactic of war. How Biblical!

  • ben in oakland

    It happens to me all of the time, except that the comments never show up.

  • Anthony Zarrella

    Why does it have to be only private donations, Larry?

    Why is it that if abortion is the solution, you think we should be paying for it with public, taxpayer-funded accounts, but if caring for mother and child is the solution, you think it should be the sole responsibility of pro-lifers out of their own pockets?

    That seems backwards to me. I’d say the exact opposite – we should be using foreign aid money to care for these women and their children (whether they choose to raise them personally or put them up for adoption), and anyone who wants to give them abortions instead should… well, should *not* give them abortions instead, but if you’re going to, then pay for it yourself. Don’t make me complicit in your “right” to kill innocent children.

  • larry

    Because I am not the one moaning about the choices these women are making and acting like judgmental dillholes about what they went through. If these people want to change these women’s minds and fall in line with their sectarian aversion to abortion, they should give some compelling reason to take them seriously.

    If you want to limit the personal choices of others, you should give a compelling reason for doing so. One’s holier than thou attitude towards others doesn’t cut it.

    I am not one to tell women who had been enslaved and repeatedly raped that they must keep their child. If they want (or in many cases with younger women, need) abortions, by all means they should have them.

  • Greg1

    Last time I checked there was at least three people involved in an abortion. Yet we only seek one opinion.

  • Susan

    The only opinion who matters if the mother’s opinion. She is the one who is carrying the fetus. It is part of her body. It certainly is not opinion of men that matters, especially celibate men. Some of these “women” are actually girls and it would be dangerous for them to carry a baby to term and to through childbirth.

  • JR

    The mother has no human right to murder her own child. Please tell me you will never procreate.

  • Susan

    It not a child if it cannot live outside its mother’ body. You have also ignored that for many girl, childbirth puts the life of the mother at great risk.

  • Larry

    Last time I checked there is only one pregnancy involved. I guess you want to ask the Islamic State rapists whether they consent to it as well.

    I can only facepalm so hard after reading your post. You make my head hurt.

  • Larry

    We are talking about women who were held captive and forcibly raped into pregnancy. Your s1utshaming is really disgusting here. Get a clue.

    Even if it weren’t the case, it is incredibly narcissistic of you to think that your alleged moral stance is license to dictate how others make their most personal and intimate decisions. Your mistake having an opinion with having an opinion that one is compelled to take seriously.

  • Greg1

    Larry, what if you were the baby inside of one of these women? Your post makes my head ache.

  • Greg1

    Last time I checked, any delivered baby cannot live without assistance. So, why is it a crime to let your born baby self terminate?

  • Ah, true compassion I believe is what Jesus did when he died on the cross. Laying down ones life for sinners. Not that they were good but that were not.
    So, repeated rape is a violent act. I suspect no arguement here. Then the crux of the matter is what is an abortion. It seems to me it too is a violent act. Hmmm. Solomans dilema…cut the child in half. But wait the real mother was revealed. I think the adoption option is less violent, after all the dasterdly deed was already done.

  • Susan

    Greg1, a baby after its born needs attention, care and love, but it doesn’t have to from its biological mother or are you anti-adoption too?

  • Susan

    Richard S, will you adopt one of these babies? I don’t see that there are enough adoptive parents willing to adopt these babies. They will end up being raised in an orphanage. Orphanages greatly vary. The orphanage could be like one of those Romanian orphanages.

  • susan

    I am pro choice, but we do not fund abortions for victims of rape in our own country, let alone another country. If you want to help the women over there, change the “rape culture” by insisting the governments in these backward countries do something about this issue. Stop funding these countries unless they take some action against these terrorist, instead of them using them as a way to police the their countries. Just a thought.

  • The adoption process has been muchly streamlined. The waiting period for domestic adoptions can be accomplished in as little as 5 months. The cost for domestic adoptions is considerably less than international adoptions. Although it may take as long as 2 years, the wait is worth the while. Thousands of adoptions occur each year. I used the baby center a myth resolving site to get these numbers.

  • Greg1

    Let’s see, if a “doctor” performs an abortion on an 8 month old “fetus,” and the “fetus” is afterward discarded, then the book closed. If that same doctor delivers an 8 month old “fetus” and that “fetus” is left on the counter in the delivery room to take care of itself, and then succumbs to the condition of inappropriate care, then that doctor, and his surrounding staff, is arrested. Hmmm. Something awry here.

  • Grayson

    It’s always interesting to read the comments of men on the subject of abortion. Often they show how very little men understand about conception, pregnancy, birth and child raising. Let me ask you “pro-life” men how you would feel if your spouse/girlfriend was raped by a gang of terrorists and impregnated by one of them? This rape would, of course, be public. Everyone would know how the pregnancy took place, as is the case with these poor women raped by Boko Haram. Would you help care for and pay for the medical care necessary for the mother and child? Would you welcome the child whole-heartily? Would you give the child your name? Would you truly have no compunction about telling others how the child came to be? If you answer no to any of these questions then what’s your solution? Make the woman go through all the physical and emotional trauma of the pregnancy and then give the child up for adoption? In my opinion, that would be the cruelest decision of all.

  • Greg1

    Grayson, I understand what you are saying, but the baby is also part of the mother. Regarding pregnancy through rape, well the statistic is 5% of women who are raped become pregnant. We tend to take drastic examples that are statistically infinitesimally small, and use those as logical reasoning for abortion. But to answer your question: if my wife became pregnant through rape, I would be okay with raising the child; however, if my wife wanted to adopt the baby out to a good loving Christian couple who were having fertility issues, then I would be agreeable.

  • Susan

    Greg1, you know that in the United States no one can perform an abortion on a 8 month old fetus, except in very rare cases where the mother would die unless she gets an abortion.

  • Larry

    I couldn’t be. I am born. My mother had a desire to bring her pregnancy to term when she had me. Nobody forced her to give birth to me. Same can’t be said for these women.

    What if you had a rational, well thought out argument?

  • Larry

    JR, Its not a child until its born. Until then its a fetus. Get your terms straight. No woman has to take your opinion as to their bodies seriously.

    Greg1, “late term abortions” are hardly typical. If it can live outside of a womb, and does not pose a danger to the mother to bring to term or to remove from the womb, then abortion is probably not the way to go here. But its not like one expects reasonable discussion from people who are demanding former slaves/rape victims go through pregnancy from their captivity. I can’t call your position pro-life. Fetus worshiping is far more appropriate.

  • Larry

    Richard, your information about adoption is completely off the rails wrong.

    Domestic newborn adoptions outside of within families or ultra-private arrangements range somewhere between 80-100K on average. Adoption through state agencies are rare due to the low prevalence of young healthy children in such systems. Domestic adoption is generally out of fashion due to “open adoption” laws which demand the birthmother maintain some level of contact with the child.

    International adoption usually takes about 1-2 years minimum depending on the nation. Frequently the adoption process has to be delayed or stopped entirely due to political issues with the country. Average costs between 30-90K depending on the country. The number of nations handling international adoption are fewer and fewer. The more developed the economy, the more embarrassing international adoption becomes.

    Whatever site you used was crap. No adoption agency would agree with your statements.

  • Larry

    Susan, Boko Haram and Islamic State are not nations. They are glorified bandit gangs using religion for a scintilla of legitimacy. The only thing the government can do about them is to eradicate these groups.

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