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Pope Francis during a homily he delivered in Sibari, Italy, on June 21, 2014.

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Pope Francis during a homily he delivered in Sibari, Italy, on June 21, 2014.

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VATICAN CITY (RNS) The pontiff is due to meet Simon Cazal, co-founder and executive director of SOMOSGAY, on July 11 at the Paraguayan Episcopal Conference in Asuncion, the country’s capital.

  • And we know this how? Oh, it’s part of the bally-hoo of the Vatican Press Office.

    It’s just amazing how few people are interested in a moment of the Pope’s time and how his schedule is clear for any random individual.

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  • “he referenced gay people seeking God and asked: “Who am I to judge?””

    Yes, Francis, exactly.
    Please stop pretending a “Pope” is any different from being a “Bouncer.”

    Mr. Pope, you run a club,
    some say there is something special inside your club and if they only say the magic prayers and surrender the right propitiations they can enter and have a taste of the afterlife to come.

    Upon getting in however, there is nothing special at all
    except a pile of claims; unsupportable and dangerous:

    “Bring to me those enemies of mine and execute them in front of me” – JESUS (Luke 19:27)

    No good can come from this theory of reality.
    It must be so altered that it ceases to be the words of Jesus.

  • bqrq

    “……Speaking at the Vatican last month, the Pope defined marriage as “the alliance of love between a man and a woman……”

    The Pope is right.

  • Be Brave

    Geez Max, you prove how the soul is so darkened by atheism. That you keep regurgitating the same pathetic attempt to paint Jesus as blood-thirsty as an atheist is just pitiful to watch.

  • Jesus is imaginary. So it isn’t for me to worry about.
    But you do not read your bible.

    Christians do many bad things. Not because they are sinning – but because they are following Jesus Christ:

    HERE IS THE MORALITY
    JESUS RECOMMENDS:

    Slavery – Yes (Luke 12:47)
    Rape Pretty Captives – Yes (Matthew 5:18)(Deut. 21:10-14)
    Capital punishment – Yes (Luke 19:27)(Matthew 24:51)
    Genocide – Yes (Matthew 5:18)(Exodus 22:19)
    Sexual repression – Yes (Matthew 5:28)
    Merciless punishment – Yes (Mark 16:16)
    Lying – Yes (John 20:29)

    These are the things Jesus commands YOU to do to innocent people!

  • bqrq

    Dear Max,
    When you were a child growing up in the Orthodox and Catholic Church, did you attend catechism class?

  • Michael

    Why is it so necessary for Max to troll on religious articles? I am not over there on the atheism websites. I do think Max does it simply to annoy. I will say, it is great that he can do this freely. I will also say when I die and he is right, he won’t be able to say, “I told you so” and if I am right I will embrace him like a brother.
    Peace be with you Max all of your days.

  • Be Brave

    Atheist’s seem to station one after another of them at any place where Christians gather. These are the same kinds of people that were cheering on the lions and crucifixions of Christians “back in the day.” Now they get their kicks just breathing out cyber hate on Christians. And what is their rewards? A society that is mentally diseased by violent and sexually depraved secularists.

    Of course.

  • Be Brave

    The pope is just being an honest person on this knowing what is immutable about Christian marriage. Man and woman/husband and wife.

    This is a “duh” moment.

  • Be Brave

    This poor man needs attention so badly he gets it through hating Christians. Because he knows the love that dwells in the heart of a conservative evangelical Christian is the true spirit of the original Church.

  • Hmm…I try to be patient and understanding on these sites,but seriously, Max…You are turning into a tiresome,sad one-trick n pony here.If Jesus was/is imaginary,according to you,what does it matter what He supposedly said? Seriously,dude!! Your pitifully inadequate”knowledge”of Biblical interpretations and sound hermeneutics is beginning to grate; not to put too fine a point on it,but Atheist Max: YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT!! Seriously,dude— you’re beginning to sound silly and pathetic.I can genuinely respect thinking atheists who at least make some effort to get where Authentic Christianity comes from,but Roman Catholicism so damaged your psyche,Max,that you spend your time continually railing at the non-existent,at chimeras that only exist in your own overheated fantasy world.Come on up out of your dank,dimly-lit basement,Max..we all love you( As does The Saviour!),and would welcome you with open arms.COME!!—PEACE IN CHRIST, ALWAYS!

  • shawnie5

    Insecurity.

    Remember the old saying…”the opposite of love isn’t hate, but indifference?”

    He can’t stay away because God’s probably still working on him.

  • pete

    Max im asking you respectfully and not trying to be a wise ass. why does an atheist go on a religious website every day. I have no underlying motive, im honestly interested. All you seem to be getting out of it are arguments, you arent changing anyone’s mind so why are you bothering – doesnt it annoy you to argue with these people.

  • Max,
    You misunderstand most of what you read, either because you knowingly do so or because you fail to realize that what was written in the bible was directed at a people with entirely different social norms as those you live under today, by a God trying to coax them to a deeper understanding of who He is and how this should change the way they live.
    You can’t teach a kindergartner calculus in a year and you cannot move society away from slavery and myriad other practices in a generation. There is a reason the prophets, and even Jesus was killed for voicing even nudges toward the true love of God. The stories and actions in the Bible are a progression to the fulfillment of Christ, who came not to condemn, but that we might have eternal life, because God loved the world, all even you.
    Read these stories in that way and the mean something totally different than you think.
    Otherwise change your name to Max the anti-theist

  • nonny

    Pls Max, can u answer dis question? Who made u, were u d one dat decided ur sex or origin as @ d time of ur formation in ur mother’s womb? Am patiently waiting 4 ur answer. Thanks

  • Jon

    You’re quoting one’s of Jesus’ parables silly.

  • dmj76

    Hi

    good post, thank you

    best wishes

  • dmj76

    Dear Max

    We already had this discussion. The vast majority of scholars who study Christian origins think there was some kind of historical Jesus. Bart Ehrman wrote a book about this. (You would probably love most of the Bart Ehrman books, he is also an atheist / agnostic.)

    best wishes

  • Larry

    Max is right about the meeting. It is nothing more than PR to make the pope and church appear more reasonable than their official policy and actions would allow.

    Max serves a role in keeping smug lazy believers on their toes. That the assumptions they make and oft used empty rhetoric should not be taken at face value.

  • bqrq

    Larry,
    You and Max both support gay marriage. Do you and/or Max have a romantic interest in each other? What do you like about Max? Is marriage a possibility?

  • Larry

    “Is marriage a possibility?”

    Bqrq, stop proposing to me!

    You are not my type and I am already married.

  • bqrq

    Larry said;
    “…..I am already married……”

    Dear Larry,
    Are you married to a man or woman?

  • Larry

    I am not interested in you!

    I will not destroy my marriage for you!

    How many times can I tell you no?

  • Ben in Oakland

    I’ll be happy to answer the question. This is not a religious website, this is a website about religion. Therefore, The presence of an atheist is a perfectly valid thing.

    For the record, even though I am a thorough going atheist, I don’t always agree with Max. But I think many of the points he brings up about religion are quite valid.

    I also do think it’s true that he is not changing anyone’s mind. I think there are great many people who read these posts, and are interested in them, but don’t necessarily comment on them themselves. When I write, I write. for those people.

    I already know that I’m not going to convince the diehard religious bigots, nor am I going to convince the diehard anti-gay bigots. But I think a lot of people that read these postings, are not die hard.

  • G Jenkins,

    “the bible was directed at a people with entirely different social norms…”

    Then why are people bothering with this wicked nonsense today?

    “Kill homosexuals” – God (Leviticus 20:13)

    It is just dangerous. And it serves no purpose.

  • @dmj76,

    “The vast majority of scholars who study Christian origins…”

    And the vast majority of people who play the lottery think they will win.
    And the vast majority of Islamic Scholars think Mohammed flew up to heaven on a white horse.
    And the vast majority of Jewish scholars think Jesus was nothing more than a prophet – not a god and certainly not a messiah.

    And the vast majority of people who role dice feel very lucky.
    But they lose anyway.

    If you don’t have evidence for your claims, don’t tell me they are ‘true’.

  • Michael,

    “I do think Max does it simply to annoy.”

    Why is it so hard to believe the obvious? I am responding to the claims in these stories at RNS.

    The Pope has made statements which are untrue. And the church repeatedly makes bald claims which are completely untrue.

    Jesus is a terrible idea. Christian philosophy has led to incredible agony in the world and it continues non-stop. And all of it is needless – because there is no evidence that a real Jesus really cares or watches these ridiculous superstitious Popes, Clergy or anyone else.

    Meanwhile we all are victims of this sort of cruel, bigoted, divisive nonsense:

    “Avoid Them” (Romans 16:17)
    “For whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works.” (2 John 1:11)

    These beliefs just spread needless pain and cruelty all over the earth.

  • @Jon,

    Of course it is a parable. Jesus tells the parable to compel his followers to behave in preparation for a Perousia!
    Jesus is the Nobleman who says “Execute them” – (Luke 19:27)

    Speaking up against a vile, dangerous philosophy is the personal responsibility of every decent human.
    The character of Jesus in the Bible is a terrible example of human behavior.

    “Don’t waste….on the people who are unholy. Don’t throw your pearls to pigs!” – JESUS (Matthew 7:6)

    Jesus has NO good reason to speak of other people in that vile tone of voice! Even if he existed, it is simply inexcusable, despicable way to talk to human beings! Suppose your mother were ‘unholy’ by his standards? Would it make sense for him to call her a PIG??

    Shame on those who don’t read Bibles yet claim Jesus is ‘good’.
    It is all in your imagination.

  • @Pete,

    Everytime someone reads about the ‘Pope’ – whose entire job is to do the work of an imaginary, vile character from literature – one should also expect a rebuttal.

    If someone had the real-world, real-life job of promoting the interests of LORD VOLDEMORT (from the Harry Potter books) onto the world stage I would renounce such a thing as profoundly ridiculous.

    There is NO evidence that Jesus Christ existed as described in the literary fiction known as the Bible.

    And don’t point to the existence of certain places mentioned in the Bible as evidence! It isn’t.

    Just because New York City is a real place, it does not follow that Spider Man is a real character.

    Jesus, Allah, Yahweh, Zeus, Osiris are fictions. They are only dangerous when people think they are REAL.

  • @BB,

    “he gets it through hating Christians.”

    Nonsense!
    I was a Christian for 50 years – I do not hate Christians.

    A hatred of Alcohol does not imply a hatred of drunks.
    A hatred of Bowling does not imply a hatred of Bowlers.

    A hatred of Hot Dogs does not imply a hatred of Hot Dog Eaters!!!

    You are a bigot who thinks Atheists are flawed for what they are.
    You hate non-belief in God AND YOU ALSO HATE THOSE WHO CANNOT BELIEVE.

    Shame on you for picking on me. I don’t like Christianity and I hate the fictional character known as Jesus. It is my right.

    But I never disparaged Christians even once.

  • Shawine:

    “God’s probably still working on him.”

    By that logic, you are here because rationality is working on you.
    You reply to me because you know I’m right. You don’t believe in God at all.

    But you believe in belief. You think belief is good and does good for culture – because of that, you have ascribed onto the belief a number of truths which validate the the belief itself.

    The Imago Dei – The Image of God – is a man made construction (every society has them) it is a primitive answer to the phenomena of taboos; the unexplained answer to a yearning for parental control in a chaotic world, an infantile insistence against evidence and born in the darkest ignorance of ancient culture.

    There is no evidence these beliefs are good or true – and abundant evidence to the contrary.

  • nonny,

    I was made by my parents.
    Next question.

  • @G Jenkins,

    “You can’t teach a kindergartner calculus in a year and you cannot move society away from slavery and myriad other practices in a generation.”

    Nonsense.
    You claim your God can do anything as your God himself says so.
    His commandments are directly created for that purpose.

    Yet God does not command masters to free their slaves –
    Instead he commands his slaves to remain as property.

    THE LORD COMMANDS, MAKE YOUR SLAVES INTO PERMANENT PROPERTY BY BRANDING THEM.
    HOLD THE SLAVE’S FAMILY FOR RANSOM.

    “The Lord said, “if the servant declares, ‘I love my master and my wife and children and do not want to go free,’ then his master must take him…to the door or the doorpost and pierce his ear with an awl. Then he will be his servant for life.” – YAHWEH (EXODUS 21:5)

    Indefensible garbage.

  • Barry the Baptist

    You can teach kindergartners calculus. Look it up.

    How did you come to the conclusion that slavery and other unsavory practices can’t be undone in a generation? Are you saying it is impossible? I don’t think you can prove that.

    Do you proclaim to understand the mind and machinations of your deity and his wacky, meandering way of accomplishing civil rights? How did you come by this understanding? Are you sure that there isn’t another explanation that could explain how equality was achieved, one that doesn’t paint your god in such an obviously inept or inefficacious light as asserting that “he couldn’t make it happen too quickly?”

  • Barry the Baptist

    This isn’t a religious website. This is a website about religion.

    From the RNS “About” section:
    “RNS does not endorse or promote any particular religion, creed or set of beliefs or non-beliefs. We are a secular organization committed to an ongoing conversation about the role of religion in public life.”

    Sound like Max is right where he belongs. If you think otherwise, then this website isn’t intended for you.

  • Be Brave

    As a former atheist and a former selfish pig, I understand where Larry, Ben and Max are coming from.

    This isn’t about a honest debate, this is about bashing Christians as did the Romans when the Christians first developed their community. Christians reject the greed, vice and violence that the secular world applauds. Christians do not want to stay in the condition of the unhinged and selfish. The LGBT issue is used by people like Larry, Ben and Max to drag Christians back into the world of sin. Historically this has always been the case. The moral insanity that Max displays, the open hatred that Larry barks, and the sexual debauchery that Ben demands all points to the typical tyranny that godlessness always produces. Even the idea of God espoused by atheists is one of a tyrant. A puppet master that keeps pets in a cage and makes sure their every whim is satisfied to the fullest. Freedom is actually as much a repugnant thing as is any dissent from godless secularism. Pitful.

  • Be Brave

    bqrq,

    The irony is that the very question you ask is already settled as someone of the opposite gender. The lunacy that LGBT activism (atheism, liberal, progressive, democratic party) is promoting, is shown for what it is. No one goes to the mental image of a “husband” as being a spouse of another man. The statement: “Let me introduce you to my wife,” is not seen as coming from a woman. That complete perversion of society is going to take many decades to sicken the populace as a whole. And never let it be forgotten that it is a perversion of normality, not the embracing of an enlightenment.

    And this all came about from the embracing of a decidedly anti-God agenda. Nothing gay pride came riding in with a holiness movement. That is why you see the enemies of God championing gay pride. Because it is an afront to God and little else. Notice that Christians are the ones vilified for doing nothing more than living as Christians should. Evil always comes at The Church part and…

  • Be Brave

    Max serves a purpose of persecuting Christians. His lunacy is nothing more than the unhinged barking of a crazy pitbull. His points of view are nothing more than regurgitated atheism that has been selling since the one-trick pony circus of Ingersoll. Now the internet gives the unhinged a place to feel they can bash Christians without having to be challenged for the sick and twisted morality they peddle to a duped and frenetic populace. Of course that same old tired historical fact is forgotten from generation to generation and we get the same moral-virus from age to age. There’s nothing “new” to atheism.
    While peddling the ills of religion (and ALWAYS Christian) the godless fanatically try to drive away the torment in the ears while always sickening the world around them. Islam as political is very dangerous to the world. But not as dangerous as what “science” has brought to the earth. Islam is not poisoning the seas and the air by products of secularism. Science is though.

  • Be Brave

    It’s not their homosexual inclinations that drive Larry and Max together. It is the immutably anti-Christian aspect of gay pride and homosexuality that attracts them to the movement. They realize, as the homosexuals gain in power and authority, that CHRISTIAN influence will be driven from society. And of course that is to be expected, the darkness they peddle must crush the light to take control of the populace.

    This is about something more powerful than just sexual lust driving the unhinged to power, this is about ancient evil realizing what will give it total license.

    Max and Larry gay-priders et al, are just mind-controlled lackeys (literally, historically, supernaturally) that have been with us for millennia.

    And the word “lackey” may indeed be the best word to describe the fanatics of hate as they drive the political and social dagger into the hearts of Christians everywhere.

  • Be Brave

    It’s not their homosexual inclinations that drive Larry and Max together. It is the immutably anti-Christian aspect of gay pride and homosexuality that attracts them to the movement. They realize, as the homosexuals gain in power and authority, that CHRISTIAN influence will be driven from society. And of course that is to be expected, the darkness they peddle must crush the light to take control of the populace.

    This is about something more powerful than just sexual lust driving the unhinged to power, this is about ancient evil realizing what will give it total license.

    Max and Larry gay-priders et al, are just mind-controlled lackeys (literally, historically, supernaturally) that have been with us for millennia.

    And the word “lackey” may indeed be the best word to describe the fanatics of hate as they drive the political and social dagger into the hearts of Christians everywhere.

  • Shawnie5

    “By that logic, you are here because rationality is working on you.
    You reply to me because you know I’m right. You don’t believe in God at all.”

    This is a website about religion, and I subscribe to a religion. It makes sense for me to be here. And your line about “studying religion like a doctor studies disease” is nonsense as well because you are obviously not seeking to learn anything but instead tossing the same handful of threadbare canards into every discussion no matter the topic.

    I’ll venture to say that not one of us is spending ANY time haunting predominantly atheist/skeptic websites to tell everyone there how dumb they are. The interest is simply not there. Not so for you. That says volumes.

  • Ben in oakland

    The sexual debauchery that Ben demands? Honey, I rarely even mention the word. I haven’t demanded sexual debauchery from anyone, and certainly not from you. you are just not my type, despite all of your fantasies,

    As always, you are reviling and slandering. as always, not a single one of the so called Good Christians on these pages will call you out for it.

    Right Shawnie?

  • Shawnie5

    You ARE demanding sexual debauchery, Ben. You are demanding that those who view same-sex behavior as sexual debauchery (“porneia” according to scriptures) condone it and participate in ceremonies celebrating it.

    BTW, I haven’t noticed you calling out any of your compadres for name-calling, insults and hypocrisy, like you agreed to do sometime back. No surprise, of course, just an observation.

    Why again am I supposed to “take you seriously?” (Hi Larry.)

  • Get Smart

    Pope Francis speaks with a forked tongue.

    He suggests ambiguity when clarity is so desperately needed.

    Ultimately, he, like the rest of us, will answer to God.

  • Larry

    Bqrq, you have made it clear you are not someone worth taking seriously and somewhat humor impaired. I am never going to treat what you say in any way besides ridicule.

    Same goes with bb. Neither of you have anything intelligent to say on any subject. Responding to you two under the notion I am talking to intelligent rational people is a waste of time.

    Say whatever you want, your opinion is worth less than dog crap.

  • larry

    Hi Shawnie. Ben made the mistake of responding to obvious inflanmatory trollery. I usually ignore BB’s posts on principle. Ben is far more polite to you guys than Max or myself. He is one person from the atheist crowd, you should take seriously.

    I see no hypocrisy coming from the atheist crowd here. Hypocrisy and double-talk is a second language to Christians like yourself. You guys can’t even follow your own savior’s advice without undermining it with weaselwording and nonsense conditions. The whole world could do without your take on “Christian Love”.

  • Ben in oakland

    Well, Shawnie, here’s the thing.

    Im not interested in your definition of sexual debauchery. I should wish that sexual debauchery were on the menu. But then, I’m a married man.

    It is a myth that I am demanding that you condone it, as much as it is a myth that I am asking you to participate in it. I am demanding the same treatment that so called Christians routinely extend to all of the other people they think their God of Love is going to damn to hell for eternal torment.

    As for calling out, I have on occasion, but perhaps not as often as I should. But then, I’m not the one quoting Corinthians, am I? And so, why am I supposed to take YOU seriously? We both know that you also DO NOT AND HAVE NOT CALLED THESE PEOPLE OUT, no matter how extreme BB, BQ, and Greg and doc and JR get.

    Could that possibly be because you actually share their opinions?

  • Ben in oakland

    Thanks, Larry.

  • Shawnie5

    “He is one person from the atheist crowd, you should take seriously.”

    I did (well, only about half-way) when he purported to repudiate name-calling and insults. But he’s just like the rest of you — endlessly whining about some insults and approving of others. Almost as if name-calling and insults are simply to be expected of atheists…is that it?

    “I see no hypocrisy coming from the atheist crowd here.”

    No doubt, since the lion’s share of it is coming from you.

  • Greg1

    It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall when the pope has words with the Paraguayan. It could be along the lines of, “I’ve heard you have been very influential in Paraguay. How would you like to turn your life over to Christ and have an even greater impact on the society there?”

  • Frank

    Activist: “Let’s see what that conversion offers me. What’s the worst downside? A life without companionship or sex? Having my brain sucked out to make me ready to be a good Catholic?”

  • Benoklnd@pacbell.net

    Only the people who can’tkeep their minds out of other people’s sex lives. You think far more about sodomy than I do.

  • The Great God Pan

    “BTW, I haven’t noticed you calling out any of your compadres for name-calling, insults and hypocrisy…”

    Speaking of hypocrisy…

  • Be Brave

    A person stops thinking about things that are commonplace.

    Be that reality as it may, Ben, LGB’s define themselves exclusively by their sex acts and then demand that we all agree to “affirm” them in that. It’s disgusting. The transgendered are not much better. You LGB’s demand that we all have to be in your sex lives as affirming it. Your pride (haughtiness) has you unable to recognize that we are not as duped as you seem to really think we are.

    You are of a bullying class all the while crying that you are the ones picked on. Same sex marriage has never been outlawed because it has never been legal. Your propaganda is seriously weak when one stops being afraid of your pathetic accusations and embraces reality.

  • Frank,

    Why is it your business?
    Christians have a philosophy which puts them in charge of everyone. Get out of the bigotry business – study your philosophy:

    “Be a nosy busybody and shove God in everyone’s face” – JESUS of the Mythic Legends (Mark 16:15)

    This is insanity.

  • Be Brave

    If the pope is a follower of Jesus he will preach the same message as Jesus did. No need to bow to the rainbow flag.

    ““Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?” – Matthew 19

    And since IN CONTEXT, this was said during a conversation about divorce, no one can pretend this is not about marriage and what a Godly marriage is. There is no such thing as a same gender marriage anywhere in Christian truth. Anyone is welcomed to read Ephesians the 5th Chapter and see the incompatibility of LGBT demands and that of a Christian life. The reason “the world and its ways” is so yoked to LGBT aims and goals is precisely because it is antithetical to Christian truth. “Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. For it is shameful even to speak of the things that they do in secret.”

  • Be Brave

    Larry,

    How interesting that you employ inflammatory language towards Christians. It is the natural language you speak in.

    It is almost impossible to not pay you guys back in kind. And I am somewhat pleased that you know how Christians should behave towards the hatefulness you spew. Now keep to that path when it comes to Christian marriage and we’ll get along better. Since you know how Christians should act, our positions on marriage as man and woman/husband and wife are 100% in keeping with how Christians should believe and behave.

    See how easy it is to interact in a truthful way.

    LGBT’s can keep to their worldly ways and Christians keep to the narrow road. As you adeptly understand. Now we can move in the direction of Christian truth as implemented by Conservative Evangelical Christians … and the heresy that, as you know, defines the LGBT, liberal and progressive movements.

  • Shawnie5

    “But then, I’m not the one quoting Corinthians, am I?”

    Oh? It seems to me you’ve been quoting a great deal of it and other NT books lately. But aside from that, you claim that you don’t need the Bible to know how to behave, so one would think that if you have a problem with the “slandering and reviling” of others you’d be just as disgusted when it comes from your buds. One would think.

    “Could that possibly be because you actually share their opinions?”

    I certainly share your opinion that you are demanding sexual debauchery, and I already elaborated on that. Whether or not you care for our definition of sexual debauchery doesn’t matter to OUR rights of free exercise.

    “I am demanding the same treatment that so called Christians routinely extend to all of the other people they think their God of Love is going to damn”

    I’ll be happy to treat you or them any way you please which does not involve participating in sin in violation of my conscience.

  • ben in oakland

    No, dear. you’re projecting again.

    YOU define me exclusively by my sex acts, not me. You are the one that is insisting that my sex life is your business. I don’t discuss it in public; you, on the other hand, are constantly thinking about sodomy and young men.

  • Shawnie:

    “you are obviously not seeking to learn anything…”

    Nonsense.
    Christians fear of ‘godless’ depravity, totalitarianism and anarchy. Yet Anarchy and Totalitarianism are opposites! The only thing which links them is depravity.

    Their cure for this fear? They swear allegiance to the creator of depravity, totalitarianism and anarchy – The Gods.

    The surprises happen every single day.
    It is impossible to keep track of all the ridiculous arguments the religious make for not thinking. But I’m trying.

  • Larry

    Now you want a threesome…involving sodomy with a married couple. You just can’t take no for an answer. Bqrq, you have to stop propositioning people here. This is not a Bob Guccione sponsored chat forum! Keep your sick sexual fantasies out of this. There are plenty of other websites you can go to to seek out whatever strange you are looking for. 🙂

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