Boy Scouts drop ban on adult gay leaders

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A Boy Scout marches with his troop during the Memorial Day parade in Smithtown, N.Y., May 27. RNS photo by Gregory A. Shemitz

A Boy Scout marches with his troop during the Memorial Day parade in Smithtown, N.Y., May 27. RNS photo by Gregory A. Shemitz

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(RNS) The policy change represents the end of a long and bitter struggle over whether to accept gay members that began more than two years ago when it allowed gay youths to participate, but not adults.

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  • Larry

    This is a non-issue. They have the whole “private club right to discriminate” thing protecting the church sponsored troops. Brown v. Board of Ed did not make it impermissible for segregated Boy Scout Troops. Racial discrimination in the organization did not come to an official end until 20 years later.

    http://www.aaregistry.org/historic_events/view/african-american-boy-scout-movement-story
    In 1974, after 53 years of segregation, the Old Hickory Council (North Carolina) and BSA councils throughout the South, started to integrate troops. “

  • Bernardo

    Why the BSA has a major problem and are stuck between a tent and tent pole:

    http://www.ocregister.com/news/ordered-245722-abuse-oregon.html

    “A jury in Oregon ordered the Boy Scouts of America to pay $18.5 million to a former Scout who suffered sexual abuse as a child at the hands of his troop leader — the largest such award levied against the organization, reports The Oregonian.

    Attorneys for 38-year-old Kerry Lewis said the verdict exposed the organization’s “dark history with pedophiles and its unwillingness to come to terms with the problem.” They waved “perversion files“ around the courtroom – secret files kept by the Scouts documenting claims of sexual abuse by troop leaders and volunteers over a 70 year-period.”

  • Larry

    But banning gay scouts and gay leaders was supposed to prevent sexual abuse!
    Oh right, that was all defamatory discriminatory bullcrap.

  • Bernardo

    Between a complex legal tent pole and a complex tent if something happens–http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/faculty_sites/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

    And then there is this:

    “The onset of pe-dophilia usually occurs during adolescence. Occasional pe-dophiles begin their activities during middle age but this late onset is uncommon. In the United States, about 50% of men arrested for pe-dophilia are married. ”

    Complex situation indeed. And the solution?

  • bqrq

    “……. does that mean troops based at churches may end up in court if they ban gay Scoutmasters?…….”

    Troops that are based in episcopalian and other gay “churches” have long been recruiting boys and teenage males and encouraging them to experiment with gay sex (without the need for litigation). Parents who want their sons to be gay may voluntarily bring their children to Boy Scout meetings at fake “churches” which teach them how to embrace homosexuality.

    Real Christian Churches abandoned the Boy Scouts of America a long time ago and will likely avoid queer litigation altogether.

  • Greg1

    I can’t imagine lawsuits being threatened against any church sanctioned BSA, as most churches will pull out once they okay homosexual leaders. That is the most simple business practice: when one doesn’t want their children exposed to scout leaders that are a threat to their children, then, see ya.

  • Ted

    You do realize, I hope, that angry homophobia, like yours, has been scientifically correlated with undisclosed homosexuality.

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  • larry

    Its pretty much a given that bqrq is our resident closet case.

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  • Be Brave

    “Boy” Scouts. How very interesting a label that is.

    This is a very bad development for parents that desire their children not to be hunted and targeted by adults for sexual pleasures.

    Hopefully the days of the Boy Scouts will come to a very quick end.

  • Be Brave

    Larry,

    When you look at the life of Harvey Milk, those that desire to have boy lovers get to be heroes. I’m sure the chicken hawks are looking forward to there being badge to earn for a proper circle jerk they can lead the boys into procuring. I’m sure guys like you are looking forward to your “leadership” positions.

  • Be Brave

    Larry,

    So you’d rather give them a license to molest instead of some restrictions to the process.

    I though so all along. Your support for their cause has to be a personal matter.

    Of course.

    You never fooled me.

  • Larry

    BB, the head in the sand policies of the Boy Scouts have been enabling
    child molesters to go about unabated for decades. Mostly due to giving churches far more say than necessary for a non-sectarian organization. Churches have a knack for enabling and covering up sexual abuse.

    The ban on gay scouts/leaders did nothing and was never causally related to the issue. The whole equating gays with child molesters was always nothing more than defamatory, bigoted bullcrap.

    Of course its personal. I am an Eagle Scout. The BSA was a major part of my childhood. My concern for the organization goes beyond personal and political stances. To have it besmirched by 2 decades of prejudice cheapens its meaning.

    ” I’m sure the chicken hawks are looking forward to there being badge to earn for a proper circle jerk they can lead the boys into procuring.”

    That is not a nice way to talk about priests, bishops and pastors. 🙂

  • Larry

    Funny. The people thought integrating the Boy Scouts would do the same thing. The more things change…

  • Garson Abuita

    How do you know what circle jerk and chicken hawk mean, Be Brave?

  • Dominic

    Oh, who did’nt see this coming? Another institution afraid of saying no. Actually, the Scouts are an outdated and unpopular group compared to past years, so this is really a lame win for the gays.

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  • deanfromohio

    “BSA officials predicted it would be “unlikely” that troops based at churches would end up in court if they ban gay Scoutmasters.”

    Of course, the troops are on their own. The BSA national organization shamefully and cravenly covered its sorry butt and left the troops hanging out to dry. Meanwhile, they are feasting in the general’s tent far, far from any danger and are sending messages to.the.front with exhortations to be brave and sacrifice. These cowards will not lift a finger to help, but will tsk tsk over their arugula and sprouts.

    Scum!

  • Alexander Reagan

    Homosexual [Pedophile] Teacher Group Targets Kindergartners

    Washington, DC — Hundreds of homosexual teachers and school officials gathered in Chicago not long ago to attend the annual Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN) conference.

    The keynote speaker at this event was Robert Chase, head of the National Education Association, the nation’s most powerful teacher’s union. Chase told his audience that the NEA supports homosexual teachers. He observed, “I am here today precisely out of concern for the children our members teach. The NEA does not have what the right wing has branded a quote ‘radical pro-homosexual agenda.’ Rather, we have a radical civil rights agenda ? A pro-human agenda.”

    Chase is engaging in Orwellian Newspeak, designed to shield parents from the truth: The NEA has an aggressive pro-homosexual agenda and has promoted the normalization of homosexuality for years. http://tinyurl.com/nhu9wsm

  • Alexander Reagan

    33%% of homosexuals are predatory homosexual pedophiles.

    Childhood Sexual Abuse and Male Homosexuality

    For years, counselors, pastors and lay people who worked with men coming out of homosexuality noted that many of these men suffered from disproportionate rates of sexual abuse.

    Rev. Perdue, for example, has worked in Christian ministry for more than 25 years. He serves as Chairman of the Board of Directors for Regeneration, a ministry that helps men and women overcome sexual and relational brokenness – including sexual abuse, sexual addiction and homosexuality. He says:

    I have done a lot of counseling with men who struggle with same-sex attraction. Some have been in the lifestyle, others have battled with lust and pornography. I would estimate that in three-fourths of the cases, there was some sort of sexual abuse or misconduct that formed a powerful memory which contributed to the struggle.
    http://tinyurl.com/nmptndq

  • Doc Anthony

    Churches, it’s time to leave the Boy Scouts of America. You already know that “local opt outs” cannot survive the latest Supreme Court gay marriage decision — the BSA leaders are simply running a delay game on you, and letting the gay activists and the judicial-activist courts force you into final surrender at their convenience.

    Churches, you already know that skin color is genetic and that “being gay” and other wrong sexual behaviors are NOT genetic. (Is adultery genetic? Nope.) So you must choose whether to be a Bible-believing Christian church, or else become some other “church” like the UCC where the Bible simply **doesn’t** matter.

    Fence-sitting time is rapidly running out. There ARE alternative Christian groups for boys and teens. Or maybe your church has the resources to do a similar group on your yourself. Just GET OUT of the New Gay BSA. Better — much better — done sooner than later !!

  • Greg1

    It is kind of funny that the very people who had thrown grenades at the Catholic Church for being too loose regarding the gay/bisexual pedophile priest issue, are the very same people now cheering on the BS for opening up a new doorway for molestation. The thing is, people these days are not grounded in reality. It is all about embracing diametrically opposed positions, under the banner of a twisted philosophy known as Leftism. That is when you know the Devil is at work. He doesn’t want people to do anything rational, but rather that people only oppose one another, so that societal destruction takes place. I will say this much, if Mary is truly appearing in Mudjugorje, which I believe just might be true, then just around the corner will be a very eye opening series of events announced beforehand that will wake up this world to the reality of God Almighty: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Those will be some alarming times, but this world is in great need of it.

  • ben in oakland

    You really do love those lies about gay men, don’t you? and your reverend perdue, working with a group of people who by their own definition have major problems, also loves those lies.

    And I suppose it is no coincidence whatsoever that Perdue means LOST?

    It’s funny that YOU know this, and “Rev.” LOST knows this, but virtually every psychological, medical, sociological, professional, and child welfare organization in the entire civilized world, anyone that has anything at all to do with the subject, knows completely the opposite.

    I have known literally hundreds, if not thousands of gay men in my life. Of all of these men, only TWO had every been subjected to childhood sexual abuse. TWO.

    and you know who molested them? Their thoroughly heterosexual fathers! One’s father raped him repeatedly as a boy and a young man to discourage his homosexuality. The other’s father molested him and two of his sisters.

    If you have indeed observed what you claimed…

  • ben in oakland

    …it could be as simple as this.

    Gay kids are targeted by pedophiles as being different, vulnerable, and unlikely to tell something which might invite too many questions. Boys are targeted because that is whom pedophiles have more access to.

    people who define themselves as broken are probably far more likely to so define themselves simply because they have been abused.

  • ben in oakland

    “The thing is, people these days are not grounded in reality.”

    And the man who keeps claiming that gay people are a threat to children says what?