Manager of Oklahoma gun store and range declares it ‘Muslim-free’ zone

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A survival gear store in Oktaha, Okla., has put a sign on the door that reads, "This privately owned business is a Muslim free establishment..." Photo courtesy of CAIR

A survival gear store in Oktaha, Okla., has put a sign on the door that reads, "This privately owned business is a Muslim free establishment..." Photo courtesy of CAIR

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OKLAHOMA CITY (RNS) Gun range manager Chad Neal, a medically discharged veteran, said last month’s shooting at the military recruiting station in Chattanooga, Tenn., prompted him to hang the sign in the door.

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  • John

    LOL, where does it say this in the KOraan: “I know the Quran says about lying to infidels and killing infidels. I don’t want them practicing those religious beliefs on my range.” – See more at: http://religionnews.com/2015/08/13/manager-oklahoma-gun-store-range-declares-muslim-free-zone/#sthash.0xUzZaNM.dpuf

  • Neal assumes he’d be able to identify any given Muslim by sight. I wonder how true that assumption is. More precisely … not every Muslim who walks in his door is going to dress in a stereotypically “Muslim” way. He risks selling his guns to Muslims who may not look obviously “Muslim.”

    As for “Christian Constitutionalists,” I didn’t know there was any such thing, because the Constitution doesn’t mention Christ at all and doesn’t mandate Christianity (in fact, its First Amendment does the opposite … even though people like Neal will refuse to acknowledge it).

  • Glenn Hawkins

    John, how ignorant are you? Of course, your second sentence isn’t in the Quran. But the first sentence is all over the place in that book. Of course it says to kill the infidels. Of course it tells the Muslim to lie if it will advance the cause of Allah–it’s called taqiyya. Where have you been? BTW, where does it say anywhere that a business owner doesn’t have the right to refuse a customer? I can guarantee that a person who walks into a Muslim-owned restaurant and asks for bacon will be refused service–and I would expect that.

  • Jack

    “Awad called the equating of Muslims with terrorists “beyond ignorant.” He said that there are individuals in many faiths who commit terrorist acts…”

    True, but there aren’t any other faiths that explicitly command its followers to murder everyone who refuses to convert or debase themselves as second-class citizens. Muhammadanism is a supremacist ideology, convinced that those who profess to be ‘muslims’ are morally superior to infidels, no matter how wretched their actual behavior may be.

  • PrivateMoon

    We lost Humanity ….

    99% of People Compare Bible & Quran is those who never read it 😀 …

    They Learn From social media …

    Become Dumb 😀 😛

  • The Great God Pan

    “BTW, where does it say anywhere that a business owner doesn’t have the right to refuse a customer?”

    You mean on the basis of the customer’s religion? Try the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

    “I can guarantee that a person who walks into a Muslim-owned restaurant and asks for bacon will be refused service…”

    To be “refused service” means to be refused a service that the business normally provides. If he orders bacon and bacon isn’t on the menu then he isn’t being refused service. He’s just being an idiot. However, he is free to act like a grown-up and order something that the restaurant actually serves.

    If he orders something they actually serve and they call him a “kafir” and tell him to go away, then he has a case. But the likelihood of this happening in the US seems remote, as only a small minority of business owners (usually white Christians) seem to look for reasons to turn away paying customers.

  • Lee

    Not serving bacon to anyone because it is not on the menu (for whatever reason) is not discrimination. Telling a certain group of people they are not welcome is discrimination (ie violates equal protection) and those who run a public business or benefit from public walkways/roads or funds to run their business may find themselves fined. This is different than telling a shoeless, shirtless or obscenely dressed person to get out because of sanitary issues or public nudity. Those fools are blind to the constitution and as a fellow veteran I am ashamed of their bigotry.

  • Jeffrey

    But he will serve Christians? There aren’t many faiths like Christianity that mandates killing people for things like working on the Sabbath or being an unruly child. It just seems awfully inconsistent to be against Islam but not Christianity. 🙁

  • Carrie

    Have you ever read the old testament of the bible?

  • Sara Crow

    That’s just patently wrong. One of many, many examples in the Bible and Torah:

    “They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.” (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

    Examples are rampant throughout the Old Testament, and Christian and Jewish militants grab onto these all the time. These and other verses are currently being employed as justification for the intended genocide of the Palestinians, to name just one group. Other religions’ militants don’t get much press, but they exist. All over the place.

  • Andrew

    Glenn: That’s actually a completely different case. If a Muslim establishment refused to sell you bacon they would not be discriminating because they would give the same response to *any* customer regardless of the customer’s religion. Getting upset about that would be like getting upset at a grocery store that won’t sell you an AR-15 assault rifle (because, you know, they don’t *stock* assault rifles).

  • Chris

    They claim to be Christian, then why is the store open on Sunday?

  • Jasons Robot

    Glenn Hawkins – A place that doesn’t serve bacon TO ANYONE is not ‘refusing service’ to someone asking for bacon. A business is only required to offer the same good/services to everyone in a similar manner – while they can refuse individual customers for individual reasons – they aren’t supposed to discriminate against someone merely because of their religion.
    If a business owner wishes to control their customer traits, they need to open a ‘club’ business not a ‘public accommodation’ business. It’s that easy.
    – Also, the Quran only allows Muslims to lie if admitting they are Muslim will put their life in danger (of course Muslims, like people of every religion, pick and choose which rules to follow and how – but you are misquoting the Quran)
    – And the Christian Bible also commands Christians to kill all sorts of people for all sorts of reasons – Muslims don’t have a monopoly on being religiously commanded to kill others.

  • Jasons Robot

    Will – The Quran only allows Muslims to lie if admitting they are Muslim puts their life in danger. Of course they, like people of all religions, pick and choose which rules to follow and how – but the Quran does not command them to just lie to infidels.
    And of course, the Christian Bible commands Christians to kill all sorts of people for all sorts of reasons – Muslims don’t have a lock on those religious-type commands.

  • Anthony

    [ He described the pair as “Christian Constitutionalists who love the country.”] Yet they completely disregard the Constitution and the law. Christian hypocrisy at its finest.

  • Anthony

    I see where you’re going with this, but Muslims don’t follow the Bible.

  • Anthony

    You should take some time to sit down and actually read the Bible someday. Then take a look at your comment and you’ll see just how wrong you are.

  • Juxtacation

    Speak English very much? Or are you just learning?

  • David Sapp

    Now there’s a man who does NOT believe in freedom of religion.

  • Richard Haven

    “… explicitly command its followers to murder everyone who refuses to convert …”

    Second Crusade? Albigensian Crusade? Suppression (i.e. lynching) of LDS? Converso of Jews in Spain? Numbers 31:17-18?

    And unless one reads the Koran, one does not “know what it says”

  • Richard

    You mean like Deuteronomy 17?

    “If there is found among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, a man or woman who does what is evil in the sight of the LORD your God, and transgresses his covenant by going to serve other gods and worshiping them … then you shall bring out to your gates that man or that woman who has committed this crime and you shall stone the man or woman to death”

    Its as applicable to most modern Christians as the Koran’s passage are to most modern Muslims, but its still in there if you look for it.

    In the new testament, you have John 15:5: “I am the vine; you are the branches. … If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.”

  • skeptical1

    No, but only because christianity has been watered down in its old age. Now, they just condemn everyone they deem “unworthy” to hell with that nasty little gleam in their eyes. You know. I’m sure you see it in the mirror every day. (How do you christians treat Wiccans or Atheists or Buddhists, none of whom advocate for murder at all? ‘Cause we already know how you treat Muslims.)

  • NCJosh

    How will he recognize the white Muslim?

  • maria

    umm has EVERYONE forgotten the crusades and the inquisition Catholics killed thousands at the request of the pope.

  • ben in England

    JACK–

    No different than the Christians who call for the death of gay people. Google it–there are plenty of them, 9 million hits. As recently as three weeks ago, I saw a bumper sticker on a truck with a prominently displayed cross– KILL A QUEER FOR CHRIST.

    No different than the Christians who claim Islam– or Jews, if you like the gospel of John or Martin Luther– are of the devil. Are the latter calling for murders? No. Are they giving permission for the more homicidally inclined to destroy that evil? You betcha.

    In this case, though he describes himself as a Christian constitutionalist, he is apparently willing to discriminate on the basis of religious belief, which is forbidden by law at every level of government.

    Like the handful of cake martyrs. why is this different?

  • Garson Abuita

    It says, in hundreds of thousands of statutes and court cases, that a business owner does not have the right to refuse service on grounds of the customer’s religion. If someone walked into a kosher or halal restaurant and asked for bacon, he would not be “refused service,” he would be told the restaurant didn’t have bacon. If I walk into a Chik-fil-A and ask for a fish sandwich, am I being “refused service” when told they don’t have fish sandwiches? No, I’m being told it’s not on the menu.

  • ben in England

    Specifically, Deuteronmy 13, whuich I always love to quote:

    6 “If your brother, your mother’s son, or your son or daughter, or the wife [a]you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul, entice you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods’ (whom neither you nor your fathers have known, 7 of the gods of the peoples who are around you, near you or far from you, from one end of the earth to the other end), 8 you shall not yield to him or listen to him; and your eye shall not pity him, nor shall you spare or conceal him. 9 But you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 So you shall stone him [b]to death because he has sought to seduce you from the Lord your God who brought you out from the land of Egypt.

    Sounds like a commandment about morality to me. Certainly not dietary, or any other excuse Christians use to ignore that which isn’t convenient.

  • ben in England

    This was directed at Jasons Robot.

  • Larry

    Because Christians never forced people to convert or relegated religious minorities to second class status. /sarcasm.

    Every bigot likes to claim they have an excuse to discriminate. What else is new.

    Of course once Christians get it in their head that Jesus and the law excuses bad behavior in public accommodations for one group, its amazing how many more they try that with.

    There is no religious freedom to discriminate. This is pretty egregiously illegal behavior.

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  • Bondy Ken

    You need to read Deuteronomy 13:6-11.

  • Mike in CA

    So, he’ll still be selling to any Timothy McVeigh types as they are not Muslim. Brother.

  • Cpt. Chaos

    Damn it. I’m pissed. They are closed on Mondays!

    ….and Islam is only for weak minded anyway. Mgr. should get a community service award.

  • Birdi

    Right on, Jeffery. He should have declared it a religious-free zone. That would be safest.

  • Frank Pratt

    Well, Chad had better question EVERYONE that comes in. What if he gets another person like Mark Lewis, Robert Doggart, or Dylan Roof? All crazy ass right wing “Christians” that have either killed people, or been arrested for attempts.

  • Corey Andreasen

    Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

    Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
    They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

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  • darkmaxim

    Jack, I guess you have never read the bible then.

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  • ali baba

    Odd, Christianity and Judaism have the exact same tenants but you ignore them. Oh wait, that’s right, you’re a bigot. Sorry carry on.

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  • Larry

    He is right about one thing, something that most discriminatory bigots would like to ignore:

    “If a business owner wishes to control their customer traits, they need to open a ‘club’ business not a ‘public accommodation’ business. It’s that easy.”

    Of course doing so robs the store owner of the malicious glee of telling a customer, “we don’t serve YOUR kind”.

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  • Gord

    I really hope Chad re-enlists so he can go get shot by a Muslim. That would be a really satisfying ironic follow-up story. Probably got discharged for having the mental capacity of a carrot though. Such a shame.

  • Michael

    The “suppression” of the LDS… if you’re going to make an argument, at least base it on reality. The LDS were chased out of every state in the east because their leaders were criminals and the faithful weren’t smart enough to leave when the going got tough. Don’t buy into their revisionist history – they were “suppressed” for good reason – if you can’t obey the rule of law, people tend to not want you in their community.

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  • “Please produce all of the “Christian” teachings to kill anybody?”

    See:

    The speeches of Reverend Ian Paisley
    “The Doctrine of Discovery”
    The anti-semitic doctrines of both the Catholic and Lutheran Church
    “”Kill them all, God will know His own”
    Thou shall not suffer a witch
    See ‘the conquest of Canaan” from Exodus
    See the works of Scott Lively in Uganda and Russia

    Christians love to exhort murder and mayhem.

    Of course it all misses the point. One never has to subject their faith to public scrutiny and evaluation in order to buy any goods or services sold to the general public. Nobody has to give a crap whether you worship Jesus of Chtulhu in order to buy a gun.

    Why do you hate the 2nd Amendment?

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