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  • Larry

    The author mistakes a key point of the “gun lobby”. Their devotion is not religious in nature. Its sexual.
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ammosexual

  • Terrell Lewis

    Moloch… The god to whom the ancient Israelites sacrificed their children.

  • Susan

    The ancient Israelites did not sacrifice their children to Moloch. Moloch was a pagan God. The ancient Israelites sacrificed animals.

  • Jack

    Or to put it more precisely, Jewish religion specifically rejected pagan gods like Moloch and the human sacrifices they demanded.

    Of course, the Bible is filled with instances of ancient Jews imitating the ways of the Gentiles and pagans, embracing their religions and forsaking their own. God then judged them by exiling them into pagan nations. He essentially said, “Since you like them so much, I’m sending you off to live with them.”

    Anti-Semites have used this history as another excuse to hate Jews. But they are too stupid to realize what God was saying — ie He was condemning Jews for not acting like Jews but acting like the rest of the world…..like, for example, those very anti-Semites, most of whom were themselves pagan.

    But the essential point is right. Moloch was a foreign, non-Jewish, false god.

  • Jack

    Like most people on the left, Gushee is obsessed with guns rather than the people who misuse them to kill others unjustly.

    He and they are just as obsessed as the small number of people who truly are gun nuts.

    Based on Gushee’s logic, such that it is, we should be arresting guns, trying and convicting them, and putting each of them in little jail cells. After conviction, victims can issue victims statements in which they address the guns directly and call them all sorts of names.

  • Ckarles

    Looks like even the Priesthood of deep thought enjoys dabbling in the shallow end of the synapse pool. Maybe we should to start blaming the Bible when worldly pastors lead the flock astray.

  • Roy

    Jack, you might look up the definition of “idol’ and ask yourself if US gun culture fits.

  • larry

    I prefer to focus on the people who encourage the misuse of firearms and make spurious logic free arguments as to why their dangerously unsafe accumulation of penis substitutes needs so much protection from sane regulation. There is no reason why guns are less regulated than automobiles.

    The NRA promotes unsafe practices of gun ownership.

    If gun sales were denied to people with a history of mental illness, the president of the NRA, Wayne LaPierre would never be allowed to own a firearm.

  • Jack

    Roy, I have no doubt that in a culture like the US which not only acknowledges the right to self-preservation, but the right to procure the means with which to do so, there will be “In Gun We Trust” fanatics who are indeed idolatrous.

    But that would be true of any value that any nation cherishes. Most of us care deeply about a clean environment, but there are environmental extremists who take that all the way to worshipping Mother Earth and viewing any and all significant economic development as raping their “Mother.” There’s even an extremist environmental group — ELF — that has committed terrorist acts.

    I suspect that Gushee genuinely believes that to oppose anti-gun legislation is to be a gun-worshipping idolater. But again, based on that logic, any supporter of any cause can be accused of same.

  • Scott Shaver

    I fully agree that Gushee tends to focus on and gives guns more credit than the humans who use them either for acts of barbaric cruelty or instruments of peace, protection or provision.

    He obviously has a hard time living in a world where the two extremes coexist.

    Some folks would own guns simply for fact they know they have neighbors with views similar to those of Gushee. They sleep better at night.

  • Frankly the overwhelming majority of people who buy guns for “protection” are usually the most reckless owners. The ones most likely to act in a negligent fashion and put their neighbors at risk.

    People who avoid safe storage of guns so they can have it “on hand if bad stuff comes down”. People who carry guns in places where it is likely to be stolen or lost. People who store guns in a fashion likely to cause accidents. Ones who leave guns where kids can find them.

    My view of gun control is simple. Require gun owners to carry liability insurance for their weapons with deep premium discounts for people who use trigger locks and gun safes. We require similar measures for cars which are designed with far less lethal intention. This way good behavior is encouraged financially and bad behavior is penalized without affecting ownership. Plus the public is protected from negligent ownership.

  • Scott Shaver

    Larry,

    You sound like a good example of why not to let insurance salesmen buy guns or be allowed to run for office.

  • Scott Shaver

    Amen: These “deep thinkers” should definitely top the list of folks whose mental condition prohibits their personal ownership of firearms.

  • Ross Warnell

    We have managed to create a society almost custom designed to drive people bat (guamo) crazy, then made sure everyone is well armed.

    Then we deny there is a problem or that there even such a thing AS society.

  • Larry

    Please explain to me why a commonly owned piece of property with a great level of utility for daily use is considered so dangerous as to require liability insurance but lethal weapons designed to kill people are not. 🙂

    If you own a gun and want to show the world you are responsible and willing to accept the consequences of your actions, it would be foolish not to have such a thing.

    BTW the NRA already sells such policies.

    Why do you want to encourage dangerous behavior?

  • Be Brave

    Moloch is the god still worshipped by the abortionist mobs. And eerily, for the same reasons. And that is a platform issue of the Democratic party.

  • Be Brave

    I’m not big on guns, but the idiocy presented by Larry makes me want to join the NRA. The st_pidity with which his type ply their mor_n-like speech staggers the honest mind.

    There are no NRA members doing drive-by shootings, none are they holding up stores as armed robbers.

    What seems to be the driving force of the left-st is that they know they have no absolute control over the law-abiding gun owner and that makes them nuts.

    Gushee is a classic lef_ist. Nothing more special than the cliché ko_k that marches in Chicago, San Francisco or wherever the left_sts scream and rant.

  • Larry

    NRA members make up most accidental shootings, people whose children gain access to guns for mayhem and gun and thefts which end up in criminal commercial stream. Law abiding citizens are part of the problem. We all pay for irresponsible but law abiding citizens. Insurance requirements are neither onerous nor affect ownership.

    Gun control regulation works to keep legal guns from going into the illegal stream. Liability insurance adds to the level of care owners have for their weapons.

    I am a gun owner and I have no sympathy for people who act stupidly with them. The NRA does not represent me. They represent goofballs who think their “Death Wish” fantasies are more important than public safety.

    Why do you hate responsibility?

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