Hearing launches push to defund Planned Parenthood

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The Planned Parenthood logo is pictured outside a clinic in Boston. The organization's leader defended it before Congress on Sept. 29, 2015.  Photo courtesy of Reuters.

The Planned Parenthood logo is pictured outside a clinic in Boston. The organization's leader defended it before Congress on Sept. 29, 2015. Photo courtesy of Reuters.

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WASHINGTON -- The first in a series of GOP hearings aims to make the case that the organization is illegally harvesting and selling tissue from aborted fetuses, a claim it vehemently denies.

  • Be Brave

    Not a good idea overall. The immoral and the mentally and physically weak killing off their offspring is supported by evolution. More than likely is good for society. As any good atheist, secularist (Democrat) and college teacher knows. Think about gang chicks not having babies. No more drive by shootings in a few short decades.

  • Larry

    “the committee’s GOP majority has not seen the full unedited videos and had not asked CMP to provide them”

    There goes any notion of objectively credible good faith reasons for the hearings. Its an admission that this is nothing but a witch hunt based on stories they have not bothered to verify. Why let facts get in the way of attacking a group to please fanatical voters?

    Lying and omitting material facts is a major part of the anti-abortion POV. Why should this be any different?

  • Bernardo

    I ask again, does not Obamacare vitiate the need for Planned Parenthood?

  • Larry

    No.

    Obamacare only provides the health insurance. It is not a healthcare provider itself.

  • George Nixon Shuler

    At least you made me look up a verb, but I can tell you i won’t be using it much: “vitiate = spoil or impair the quality or efficiency of.”

    No, it does not, for the same reason your own health insurance is not going to put your doctor out of business. You’re confusing Obamacare (The Affordable Care Act, or ACA) with single payer health insurance, i.e., socialized medicine.

    Regardless of one’s views regarding abortion, however, it would seem the fact it does not vitiate Planned Parenthood is actually a good reason to move toward single payer. Of course, unlike Europe, America developed a myriad of voluntary associations and PP uses its independence as a cash cow from donors. but if it was a government entity, a theoretical right-wing government assuming we ever have one again, could end abortion services by a simple regulatory change printed in the federal register. Of course, much of the staff would continue to protect women from those who fetishize the fetus.

  • George Nixon Shuler

    Excuse me, “Gang Chicks”? Really? You really want to go there? Actually despite racist claims otherwise, inner city youth are more likely to view early parenting as a net plus. It is teenagers and young women mired in right-wing Protestant churches and right-wing Catholic parishes who are more likely to get abortions than secular or liberal Protestant or liberal Catholic women, because it removes the primary evidence that they are not virgins.

  • tuda

    Sad. Planned parenthood does so much to actually prevent unwanted pregnancies, but the majority of this great work is meaningless to the pseudoprolifers. In the end, this will result only in MORE abortion.

  • tuda

    Yep, you speak the truth George. Young females in the WORST conditions try to have children to fulfill needs they are not getting at home, making education just as important as access to birth control.

  • Greg1

    Regardless whether all the videos have been viewed in full by each GOP committee member really doesn’t matter. All you need to see is one full length video to be horrified. It is like giving Jack the Ripper the key to the city. And if you are so appalled Larry, then you should have led the battle cry to hold off on the Obamacare vote until all members of Congress read the entire bill, of which only a small fraction had prior to the vote.

  • Larry

    Regardless of whether there is any pretense of an objectively good faith purpose behind the hearings, they should proceed anyway because you don’t like planned parenthood and abortion rights.

    All you need to do is see the full length video to know the parts selling accusation is completely false. That was established the day it came out. Pretending otherwise only means you just like spreading lies in service of your position.

    The ACA was brought up to Congress through the normal legitimate legislative process. This hearing is a special matter. Analogy fail by fact free Greg1.

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  • Bernardo

    But now those who could not afford an OB et.al. before Obamacare and went to Planned Parenthood for assistance, no longer need to do so.

  • Bernardo

    If they do such great work, why are the abortion and STD rates still so high?

  • Larry

    If charities really work, how come there are so many poor people?

    There is only so much PP can do. Especially when people try to defund them, villify them and block their ability to operate over phony garbage like this.

  • Larry

    Blame the lack of legitimate OB/GYN’s in some areas. In many places, PP is the only clinic handling women’s health.

  • Cranmer

    Wow, nothing holds back your racism, does it? Your comments are pretty sick.

  • Cranmer

    Well and with all the “abstinence” education and trying to basically destroy meaningful sex-ed in this country…what do you expect?

  • Tuda,

    “…education just as important as access to birth control.”

    If only we could get the gang of old white CHRISTIAN men to understand such obvious things.
    I’m beginning to think America’s best hope is replace half the Government with Atheist women.

  • George Nixon Shuler

    “So High”? How high is “so high’? I can’t say about STDs, unless you’re talking about Human Pampiloma Virus which just about everybody who’s not a virgin gets. But abortion has always accounted for the end of 1/4 to 1/3 of all pregnancies. the variation is due to the fluctuating economy. Pay a living wage = no more abortion. It’s the same whether it’s legal or illegal.

  • Bernardo

    Planned Parenthood outlets but no doctors (OB/GP et. al) in the area? Give us a break!!!

  • Bernardo

    Planned Parenthood outlets but no doctors (OB/GP et. al) in the area? Give us a break!!!

  • Bernardo

    Sex education in less than five minutes: requirements to take, proven reading comprehension and basic biology:

    WHICH Birth control METHODS DO WOMEN (men?) USE?

    • 64% of reproductive-age women who practice contraception use reversible methods, such as oral contraceptives or condoms. The remaining women rely on female or male sterilization.[2]
    FIRST-YEAR CONTRACEPTIVE FAILURE RATES – Guttmacher Institute)
    Percentage of women experiencing an unintended pregnancy
    examples)

    Some examples
    Method……………..Typical
    Pill (combined)……… 8.7 (resulting in ~one millon unplanned pregnancies)
    Tubal sterilization ……0.7
    Male condom ……….17.4 (resulting in ~one million unplanned pregnancies)
    Vasectomy…………… 0.2
    Implant…………………1.0
    IUD (Copper-T)……….1.0
    (Masturbation mono or dual)………. 0
    (Abstinence) 0
    And the abortion rate in the USA? ~one million/year

    continued below

  • Bernardo

    o Conclusion: The failures of the widely used birth “control” methods i.e. the pill and male condom have led to the large rate of abortions and STDs in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the pill or condoms properly and/or use other methods in order to reduce the high rates of abortion and STDs.

  • Larry

    Few doctors.
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/09/louisiana-said-women-could-go-dentist-if-planned-parenthood-were-defunded

    “Another obstacle is the dearth of family planning clinics and doctors that accept women on Medicaid or other forms of public funding. Across the country, Planned Parenthood provides contraception to almost 40 percent of women who rely on public programs for family planning.”

    Give ME a break.

  • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/07/19/if-you-want-to-defund-planned-parenthood-think-through-the-consequences-first/

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/03/what-happens-when-you-defund-planned-parenthood
    When Texas defunded PP:
    “The state’s health commission says Texas will see nearly 24,000 unplanned births between 2014 and 2015 thanks to these cuts, raising state and federal taxpayer’s Medicaid costs by up to $273 million.”

    It goes on.

    Whereas you have unfounded, unattributed assertions, I am supporting my point with outside sources.

  • Bernardo

    from http://www.cdc.gov/std/stats/sti-estimates-fact-sheet-feb-2013.pdf3

    “In February 2013, CDC published two analyses that provide an
    in-depth look at the severe human and economic burden of sexually
    transmitted infections (STIs) in the United States.

    CDC’s new estimates show that there are about 20 million new infections in the United States each year, costing the American healthcare system nearly $16 billion in direct medical costs alone.”

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  • Larry

    The article is not relevant to the points made. Those who have the option to go elsewhere do. That does not negate the need still exists for those without (as my article had stated).

    *Assuming you read the article and did not just link it for the headline.

  • Larry

    Despite the title, it is not really what the article is about. It is stating that those who can go elsewhere do. Does not negate the fact that a need still exists for them.

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