Pope Francis in Cuba: ‘We do not serve ideas. We serve people’

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Pope Francis waves upon arriving to give the first mass of his visit to Cuba in Havana's Revolution Square, September 20, 2015.   Photo courtesy of Reuters

Pope Francis waves upon arriving to give the first mass of his visit to Cuba in Havana's Revolution Square, September 20, 2015. Photo courtesy of Reuters

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While the pontiff warned of the dangers of power and ideology when others are excluded, Cuban police kept some dissidents from attending.

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  • Cam

    “We do not serve ideas. We serve people”

    Neither is a particularly good menu item.

  • Fran

    Jesus truly served the common people in his day by providing them with spiritual refreshing truths, such as contained in his sermon on the mount (Matthew 5:1-48).

    But the most important part of his service was preaching the good news of God’s kingdom or heavenly government (Matthew 4:17; Luke 4:43).

    In addition, he made the greatest sacrifice to the imperfect human family:

    “For even the Son of man came, not to be ministered to, but to minister and give his soul a ransom in exchange for many” (Mark 10:45).

    We humans can soon look forward to eternal life on earth through both God’s kingdom and Jesus’ ransom sacrifice.

  • Greg1

    Eternal life on earth is not what our Lord promised, but rather that when all has been summed up, the earth will be a barren wasteland: “But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up. Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness…” (2Ptr 3:10-11). There are many people of good who tend to interpret the figurative texts Sacred Scripture literally, leading to a narrow understanding of God’s Plan. Not all Scripture is figurative, but the texts that are, require a broader understanding. And actually what might happen, as the Early Church Fathers often wrote, is that once the great Tempter has been removed and chained up, the Church on Earth will enjoy a period of splendor, possibly for 1000 years. Let’s see how it all unfolds, as we are in a very biblical period

  • Bob

    Fran, the whole Jesus-sacrifice story that you keep trying to sell here is a steaming pile of bull manure. How is it again that your omnipotent being couldn’t do his saving bit without the whole silly Jesus hoopla? And how was Jesus’ death a “sacrifice”, when an omnipotent being could just pop up a replacement son any time with less than a snap of his fingers?

    Furthermore, 2000+ years without a peep from the sky fairy of your god myths, and with no verifiable evidence for its existence is more than sufficient grounds for doubt, to say the least. Pretty pathetic “god” that you’ve made for yourself there.

    Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement.
    Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.
    http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

  • Bob

    Greg1, that would be your nasty jerk in the sky being a vengeful a-hole as well as a thief. Par for the course for your disgusting god myths. Get over your sick Christian delusions already.

    Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement.
    Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.
    http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

  • Alan

    humans commonly invent fictional characters, including gods, but organised religions use the concept to attain riches and power at the expense of those that they scam. Nature is all that exists and all that occurs naturally, not needing a human-like persona to bring it all into existence. The idea of God is an insult to nature and the idea that man needs representatives of God is an insult to humanity.

    Serving people reminds of the horrors of serving leaders who abuse people. Much better to serve ideas like kindness, equality, nature, and humanity.

  • Fran

    Greg,

    Yes, we have had this conversation before (concerning 2 Peter 3:10,11), so I will not be repetitive here. I also agree that there are some Scriptures which are figurative or symbolic, and some which are literal.

    We will have to see, then, if Jesus’ promise that the “meek shall inherit the earth” (Matthew 5:5) is literal or not.

    Although we are now living in critical times, it is exciting to know we will soon see the end of this wicked era (Matt. 24, Mark 13, Luke 21). ?

  • Greg1

    Yes, I would agree with you there, Fran. But I do not read end times prophecy in a literal way; rather I tend to say this or that “might” happen, but hold off on proclaiming how it all will unfold. The Early Church Fathers, such as Irenaeus, Papias, and Justin Martyr, often did give their thoughts on it, and saw readings such as Is 2:2, 11;6, Rev 20:1, to be symbolic of a time of rest and splendor for the Catholic Church, where she will shine in the Glory of God, and not subject to temptation from the Devil; in many ways they saw Christ’s reign as through the Church. But in the end, they all saw that as a temporal thing, leading to eternity in heaven.

  • Bernardo

    Fran,

    All of your “thum-ptations” fail rigorous historic testing. Might want to do some perusing outside the NT box that you are trapped in.

  • Bob

    Fran and Greg1, you are just entangling on the position of deck chairs on your leaky ship, but the reality is that your foundational Jesus story and your disgusting holy book with its vengeful, hateful, and bigoted god never held water to begin with.

    It is striking that you rely on quoting various versions of a multiply-translated ancient book with anecdotes by a multitude of questionable authors, but there is not even a single shred of verifiable, testable recent evidence for the claims of your crazy myths that you can present.

    Get over your Jesus delusions already. They are a disgrace to humanity, as are your efforts to sustain those delusions.

    Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement.
    Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.
    http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

  • samuel johnston

    O.K. you do not like the word “liar”. Try this.
    Jesus was a Greek word for an individual person. The Christ was an idea about a redeemer for all persons.
    “We (Christians) do not serve ideas. We serve people” is an oxymoron.

  • Eric Charles Smith

    In other words, “nuance” must be applied to any reading of the Bible. I agree. Unfortunately, too many Christians take that as license to interpret things any way they want.