• Be Brave

    Christians are in NO need of the leash from the APA on how and what to believe. Christians that want to be Christians have that right under the US constitution and the conscience of man to live as they so choose. And people that reject Christian life and the Gospel can walk their own path by choice.

  • Ben in Oakland

    Typical fundamentalist arrogance. Why have anyone there who might contradict the intellectual and religious masturbation going on? Why would you want to have someone who actually knows something about the subject?

    I’ve attended these conferences. Lots of made up stories, very shy on actual facts, logic, and experience.

    ““I think Christians need to be concerned about this because Christian care demands that we be able to help the people all around us who are struggling,”
    Help them without the slightest reference to the people you are helping. It’s not Christian care. It’s narcissism.

    ““We’re in a culture where Christians are the only ones that can teach moral sanity in the midst of the moral craziness we’re in.” It’s not moral sanity. It’s narcissism.

    If I want moral guidance from anyone, the last people on earth I would ask are fundamentalist Christians, obsessed with sex and gender, and filled with messianic zeal that is only matched by their ignorance.

  • Melissa Batson

    I cannot help but wonder if there is any organization that had alienated as many souls from Christ s s evangelicals. They are Satan’s most effective recruiters
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  • Chutney Gray

    There is no way for evangelicals to ever understand the plight of transgender people without ever first actually talking to transgender people. And, most evangelicals refuse to associate with anyone they deem to be ‘unworthy’.

    Evangelicals need to be more like the example left for them by Jesus and associate with the rest of the world and not enforce spiritual isolation on themselves. After all, Jesus hung out with the very people evangelicals disdain the most.

    Modern medical science has clearly shown that gay and transgender people are born as they are, just exactly the way the gay and transgender communities have been claiming all along. They should invite several transgender people to speak at this event. Or, they’ll never really learn anything.

  • This conference is a farce. Nobody with any credibility on the topic is presenting, and no transgender people involved.

    Let’s get this straight: God made my gender *female*, my (former) birth certificate not withstanding. I am a married Christian woman of transsexual/intersex experience.

    Some people are trans: Get over it and do what Jesus told you to do: love people unconditionally and don’t get your panties in a wad over how God makes them.

    I am *so embarrassed* for my fellow Christians who totally misrepresent Jesus and the Gospel because fighting useless battles over people like me. No wonder Jesus weeps.

  • Annabelle Bradley

    Why struggle with diversity? I find it an odd viewpoint because if god created the planet then he also created diversity. It seems like human will is being given greater value over god’s creation. Surely science could be seen as merely understanding god’s work?

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  • Eric

    Um, yeah, thanks, but no one needs a public service announcement about people’s right to believe and live as they choose.

  • Eric

    “We’re in a culture where Christians are the only ones that can teach moral sanity in the midst of the moral craziness we’re in,” he added.

    Reason #3,7219 no one with any sense cares what evangelicals say. About anything. Let alone morality.

  • Feed yourselves on the truth you all been trying to cover up all these years by reading this article, the truth!:
    https://gendersweb.wordpress.com/2015/08/18/the-future-has-an-ancient-heart

  • Oh and by the way, transgender women are cisgender/biological women with penises, yes it happens, accept it or not, its the whole truth, ha-ha!!

  • And yes, transgender women suffer discrimination for being women just like any other women. Men discriminate on cisgender women in the workforce and many other areas in life, if not worst, regardless if you’re a cisgender woman with a penis or a vagina! So can you really say, “Who has more authority, the penis or the vagina?” Not in the case of us women. Your ignorance in religious propaganda proves you are wrong!

  • Majorana Fermion

    Hmmm. I wonder if the Bible says anything about judging people who are different – and then invoking hatred among your congregation – in order to increase your own personal power and wealth?

  • Ben in oakland

    They already “know” everything. What on earth would they have to learn, and why?

    This is their spiritual and moral arrogance speaking. As I said, it’s not love, it’s narcissism.

  • Ben in oakland

    Human will given greater value than god’s creation?

    How do you think they managed to transform the “sin” of homosexuality into the greatest sin ever heard of, a threat to everything good and holy, an enemy of God, and a threat to civilization itself!

    This has NEVER been about the word of God, alleged or otherwise, but how much the very thought scares,centimes, and excites some heterosexual people, and a whole bunch of people who desperately wish they were heterosexual, but never will b.e

  • George Nixon Shuler

    Pompous rhetoric with no application whatsoever to the issue at hand.

  • Billysees

    A comment from the article says —
    ” We’re in a culture where Christians are the only ones that can teach moral sanity in the midst of the moral craziness we’re in. ”

    A scripture narrative about Christians says —
    You are the salt of the earth; but if the salt has become tasteless, how will it be made salty again? It is good for nothing anymore, except to be thrown out and trampled under foot by men………Matthew 5:13

    Sadly, a big problem today is that the ‘salt has become tasteless’.

    ‘Man’s ways are of the Lord’ the scripture says, but some will call these ways ‘moral craziness’.

    Therefore welcome one another as Christ has welcomed you, for the glory of God……..Romans 15:7

    That is good advice on what to do for LGBTs.

  • Betty Clermont

    Pope Francis equated being transgender with nuclear arms. He said in February 2015: “Let’s think of the nuclear arms, of the possibility to annihilate in a few instants a very high number of human beings. Let’s think also of genetic manipulation, of the manipulation of life, or of the gender theory, that does not recognize the order of creation.” The “gender theory” Francis is denigrating is the medically and anthropologically supported concept that gender is a construct imposed by society. It is commonly cited in defense of transgender rights, since it shows gender can vary despite society’s expectations. http://www.vox.com/2015/2/20/8078979/pope-francis-trans-rights

  • Trans and Proud

    As a recovering Southern Baptist and a proud, happy transgender person, let me assure one and all that this SBC conference on trans issues is a religious charade and an utter fraud. The SBC is going into this conference not with an open mind but with a spiritually arrogant, condescending attitude and a demeaning agenda that will only serve to further reinforce religious bigotry toward transgender people. Most reasonable people would agree that it might be helpful to have some actual transgender voices available to speak at the conference, since the event is ostensibly about them. However, that’s not how the cowardly SBC chooses to roll. The SBC prefers to control the narrative, thus ensuring that sure their own prejudicial agenda is the only one that receives attention. The whole thing is a contrived spectacle that will not help transgender people in the least, but it will almost certainly create some new problems for the trans community. The SBC is on the wrong side of history…

  • Christina

    No matter what you think about her politics, it’s not fair to say that Rosaria Butterfield (one of the speakers) hasn’t listened to the other side. She was a lesbian and strong advocate in the LGBT community. She then became friends with Christians, listened to what they had to say, and changed her mind. She’s a perfect example of someone who listens to those she disagrees with. Her story is also an example of Christians who are happy to be friends with members of the LGBT community. The friendship that these Christians had with Butterfield was not contingent upon her agreeing with them, it was just a friendship. They ate meals together, hung out at each other’s homes and with each other’s friends. So while you might disagree with what she has to say now, Butterfield is not a good example of someone who refuses to listen to the other side (she was on the inside of the LGBT community) and her story testifies to at least some Christians who don’t shun those they disagree…

  • George Nixon Shuler

    Thank you; your thoughts are interesting, and reading the story of this academic feminista undergoing a “conversion” is somewhat fascinating in some ways, but all too predictable in others. It would seem she has some things in common with Monsieur Talleyrand, who served as Foreign Minister for King Louis XVI of France, then served in the same capacity for Emperor Napoleon after the French Revolution, and then again for the restored monarchy of Louis XVIII after Napoleon was defeated. Talleyrand was able to do so because of his skills and erudition, things this woman appears to posses as well. While I don’t question her “conversion,” I tend to regard it as a rather dumb and futile gesture, but, hey, whatever floats your boat, right?

    These people regard “Christians” and “LGBTs” as two subsets which do not intersect. However well intentioned such taxonomy may be, it is erroneous. If she would’ve hooked up with some liberal Episcopals, this’d be a different story.

  • dmj76

    “We’re in a culture where Christians are the only ones that can teach moral sanity in the midst of the moral craziness we’re in,” he added.

    What? Is he living under a rock? He never encountered modern secular teachers? How could he say something like that? He can start with Michael J. Sandel’s course on justice. Is there anyone in the fundamentalist world who can compare with Sandel?

  • Christine

    It is sad that this church has such a misconception about what it means to be a true Christian. I am trans and I can say that one of the most important aspects of Christianity is to save souls not reject them. There are many “counselors” that actually drive true Christian transgendered people away from God. don’t limit the redemptive power of God’s grace.

  • Tracy

    Does anybody outside the Bible belt care what the Southern Baptists think? This is encouraging though, if they feel the need to address transgender people, some must be brave enough come out in such environs. Stay strong dear friends, stay strong. Plenty of Christians support you.

  • Peace comes from being right with the Lord, Before I knew God’s forgiveness I had NO peace. I remember how that felt, it was awful. Even now, if I fall away from the Lord for a time, I lose my peace. When I turn back to the Lord and ask for His forgiveness, the peace returns. PTL I thank God for His awesome peace that passes all understanding. Do you know God’s peace? Have your sins been forgiven? This can only happen when we turn away from sin and ask God to forgive us through faith in Christ and His atonement for us on the cross. I can’t imagine living my life apart from God and seeking my own way day after day after day. That’s not where peace and blessing are found. Do NOT be deceived. Jesus said: “He that finds his life will lose it, but he that loses his life because of Me, will find it.” I know that’s true in my own life. Receive Him as Savior and Lord and know God’s joy and love and peace. God Bless

  • deecee

    True, but not really helpful in this discussion. I dare say that most, if not all, of us in this discussion have experienced grace through faith in Jesus Christ. Also, being transgender is no more sinful than being autistic, or epileptic; it is a physical condition, where a person’s brain is more similar to the opposite sex than it is their own. It might help you to read a few medical journals and research papers on the subject. Better yet, read “Understanding the Transgender Condition” by Mark Yarhouse. Blessings on you.

  • deecee

    As the saying goes, “There is none so blind, as one who will not see.” Southern Baptists are famous for “shooting the wounded,” as it were, and this is no different. As long as any Christians, but particularly Southern Baptists, continue to make assumptions based on false premises, and ramrod those assumptions down the throats of those who trust them to speak the truth, they will never be educated on what the truth really is. One of the biggest lies out there is that somehow, that transsexuality is an offshoot of homosexuality, when in fact, they are independent of each other, and always have been. But this doesn’t stop the SBC (from whom I have walked away) from continuing to march forward, spreading the lie in hopes that it will repeat it enough, it will become the truth. It reminds me of the kid who closes his eyes and puts his hands over their ears, and begins chanting, “La-la la, I can’t hear you, la-la-la, I’m not listening…” And the band played on…

  • Sandra Stewart

    I find it interesting that no one actually quotes the bible in their assertion that being transgender is inherently sinful. I have looked at the Hebrew and Greek, it is not.
    Some of the strongest Christians I know are transgender, and as some one who has a ministry to the community judge-mental christians (purposeful small c) make my job very difficult. Most transgender individuals have a deep hatred of christians because of the condemnation they perceive. Conferences like this will lead to more souls lost to eternity.

  • mike

    you know ive lived 62 years ive always secretly felt feminine but i live in the south, deep south and what i have found to be true is the southern saying that the bit dog always hollers. what i mean is most people who fight lgbt the most ,are secretly with those same feelings.some people just cannot or will not especially in the south think it through.it takes a lot of courage to be who you really are.even to risk losing everything.most folks will just go along with the so called majority.

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