Pope Francis in Philly: Exhorts clergy to collaborate, urges women to stick with the faith

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Pope Francis waves to the crowd as he arrives for Mass at the Cathedral Basilica of Saints Peter and Paul in Philadelphia on September 26, 2015. Photo courtesy of REUTERS/Charles Mostoller

Pope Francis waves to the crowd as he arrives for Mass at the Cathedral Basilica of Saints Peter and Paul in Philadelphia on September 26, 2015. Photo courtesy of REUTERS/Charles Mostoller

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PHILADELPHIA (RNS) But the pontiff seemed to rule out the idea of ordaining women, while also hinting that wealthy Catholics -- many of whom have complained about Francis' blasts at the evils of modern-day capitalism -- could follow the example of a local saint who gave away all she had.

  • Rev. Holly Boardman

    As a United Methodist clergywoman, I have a high regard for Pope Francis and the Roman Catholic Church. On this point, however, the pope and the Catholic church lose my allegiance.

    The risen Christ has been calling women to preach the Good News ever since he instructed Mary Magdalene to go and tell the disciples that He is risen. Women were recognized as prophets, deacons (Phoebe), and apostles (Junia) by St. Paul. The men of the Catholic church have acquired power by expecting women to support them financially; and by convincing women that they do not have sacramental authority.

    Well, this well-educated Christian woman chooses NOT to finance or support a church that limits the leadership role of women. Such a limitation is contrary to Christ’s witness and teaching. It is time for courageous women to withhold their finances and walk away from a church that prohibits women from serving as either deacons or priests.

  • Greg1

    Jesus, who ran his mission in a counter-cultural way to the approach of the Jews, himself chose 12 men to begin his work, and it continued that way in the early Church, and ever since, so one must conclude that our Lord meant for his Church to be one that is led by men, but supported by women. In the Catholic Church, some of the greatest saints are women; in fact his Mother is the Greatest Saint in the Church, the Woman Clothed with the Sun, but the priesthood has always been male, so we must conclude that to be the will of the Father. Maybe since the Church is the Bride of Christ, and Jesus is the Groom, and each priest is shares in the priesthood of Christ, then that could be the reason. Only God knows, and those who make it to heaven will understand all some day, but for now we must leave it to divine order.

  • Bernardo

    Now back to reality:

    Why would any woman stay or join a group run by a bunch of old white MEN?

    The unfair treatment of women is just one reason to flee said religion. Some of the other major issues:

    – the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immaculate conceptions).

    -pedophiliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, atonement theology and original sin!!!!

  • Sister Geraldine Marie, OP, RN, PHN

    Some Catholic women want to be priests because they perceive ordained priesthood as POWER, not because it is a spiritual gift. However, we are all priests;the Sacrament of Baptism confers that role on all Christians as well as prophetic and royal roles. PROPHET-PRIEST-KING. Where did certain Catholic women learn the faith?!
    Don’t believe in roles? Do you TRULY believe that one person can be both mother and father to a child and do so effectively? Many do it out of necessity; however, they know that if the opposite sex is missing in the child’s rearing, that child is missing a vital role model!
    Finally, let’s talk about EQUALITY: Do you believe a woman isn’t equal to a man? If you do, you’d be mistaken. I know that men are paid more than women, (for instance), but that is from prejudice, not reality. Women and men are equal, only the roles of each are unique. An ordained priest, nun, lay wo/man are all servants. The Pope’s main title is the “Servant of the Servants…

  • Sister Geraldine Marie, OP, RN, PHN

    The main title of all the Pope’s numerous titles is, “The Servant of the Servants of God.”

    Read what Saint Paul wrote about the spiritual gifts!

  • Rev. Holly Boardman

    I prefer to live by the view of St. Paul presented in Galatians 3:27-28.

    “For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise.

  • Ben in oakland

    So you prefer to ignore the bible’s clear teachings, according to Baptists and fundamentalists, and the pope’s “vicar of Christ” thing, in favor of your own belief about what God wants for mankind over all, his followers in general, and you in particular. So is God clear on this or not, or is it just more people trying to define themselves as The True Christians (TM). Which of you is right? On what basis are we going to decide which of your two camps are Gcd’s BFFF?

    On the other hand, if I recall you properly– and I apologize if I am misremembering– you seemed to believe that God had a thing about gay people being gay people, and not a good one. Not surprisingly, there are an awful lot of Christians who disagree with that. And there are a lot of people who just dont like weaponized belief.

    So, it would seem to me that the one thing that’s true about people’s beliefs about what God wants is especially true when it’s all about what God wants for OTHER people.

  • Betty Clermont

    Now that the 2016 campaign is underway, there was no more talk about the “’evils’ of modern-day capitalism” for the Church’s GOP allies.

  • Greg1

    Yes, the Catholic Church teaches that women and men are equal in dignity, but differ in roles. Romans 12:4-11 clearly exhibits that each of us has been given certain gifts, and that we should use those gifts for the growth of the Kingdom. Our Lord could have given us a Church that had 12 women apostles at its inception, but of course he did not. So we must understand that as divine order. It is sort of funny that only the Catholic and Orthodox Churches have Mother Mary as the greatest of all the saints. And she received that by doing what God fashioned women to be, even within the natural order, the perfect Mother. My favorite prayer partner is Mary, and I’m warming up to Therese of Lisieux; they always care for me as only a woman can.

  • Bernardo

    Hmm, some question the existence of Jesus but it is the existence of Abraham and Moses that should be questioned. And indeed it has:

    : http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482 NY Times review and important enough to reiterate.

    New Torah For Modern Minds

    “Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. (prob·a·bly
    Adverb: Almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell).

    The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation. ”

    Which then brings into doubt much of what Paul noted in his many of his epistles. Of course, he also promised JC’s second coming in Paul’s lifetime. Still waiting for that one.

  • Greg1

    I love the way comment after comment is deleted that does not tow the Liberal agenda. I guess next time RNS wants a contribution, I will pass.

  • Steven Hunter

    I’m not Catholic, so my opinion of Catholic faith and practice is immaterial. But religions are not democratic institutions. The Catholic Church, in particular, is hierarchical in structure and substance, and therefore to expect it to change merely in order to conform with modern attitudes about gender is silly. If you don’t agree with the Church on this matter then why not find a church with which you do agree? I was raised in a fundamentalist, repressively Calvinist tradition, but when I came of age I simply left the church. I didn’t stay and try to force them to change their ways and conform to my views and values. Just move on and find another faith community…

  • Dr. Cajetan Coelho

    St. Katharine Drexel – Pray for us.

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