• David,

    This was a very helpful piece. We all have no choice but to live in and at the same time resist the tradition (family, education, religion, politics, culture) we are given. Deciding what change is appropriate and how to slowly nudge it along is the work of the loyalist as well as the heretic.

    Randall

  • Heide

    That is why I am kind of done with Religion, but not Jesus. 🙂
    I think too much and can’t find a good “come as you are church.” I have to know all that they do and I don’t think much of the traditions, actions, committees, align with Jesus’s teachings.
    Membership verses non-membership bothers me as well. Who can be, and who can’t be. I think we all belong, inclusively.
    I have a lot of stuff to work on. 🙂
    Confused at times, Thanks for writing

  • pope Francis puts himself up above God.
    pope Francis tells Congress ‘every life is sacred,’ says the death penalty should be abolished

    When Francis says “Life is Sacred,” what he means is MAN is sacred. Man has a holy soul but he’s not sacred. Sacred is generally applied to things of GOD or the Church like the Sacraments. To oppose Capital Punishment is to oppose the person who legislated it, GOD. It is God who gives us Heaven and Hell. Hell is God’s capital punishment to all UN-repentive SINNERS. Romans 1:32 Romans 13: 1-5.
    True that today in America it costs hundreds of thousand dollars? because of our appeals system but keeping a man in prison for life is just as costly and how many killers who get life in prison kill again. Who should be responsible for the additional murders? This negative attitude is also responsible for the abolish-meant of Corporal punishment. We mustn’t spank our children to hard now or face criminal charges, and yet if these same children go out…

  • Bernardo

    Way beyond Francis and his outdated church of absurd traditions:

    Analyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Ludemann, Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, ) via the NT and related documents have concluded that only about 20% of Jesus’ sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.

    The 30% of the NT that is “authentic Jesus” like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus’ case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hittites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.

    For added “pizzazz”, Catholic theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the “pew people” to go along with this trinity of…

  • Bernardo

    overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the “filicider”.

  • Joe McKenna

    Crossan et al are pretty outmoded. Public TV likes to keep programming them. If a person does not believe in the Divinity of Jesus one has to come up with a reason why the early Christians did believe. So called “scholars” can come up with lots of “explanations.” The trouble is, the official documents ARE the Gospels and the Epistles. This is what early Christians believed.

  • Larry

    There are some religious groups/sects with a tradition of upholding freedom and democratic values. There aren’t many. They are few and far between. The Catholic Church is not one of them. They have always been considered the adversary of such beliefs. From the beginnings of the Protestant Reformation onward.

  • Bernardo

    And you have read any of Professor Crossan’s studies? Professor Ludemann’s studies?

    Or any of the studies of the scholars listed below?:

    H.S. Reimarus
    R. Bultmann
    E. Kasemann
    Alvar Ellegård
    G. A. Wells
    Gregory Riley
    Robert Eisenman
    Robert Funk
    Burton Mack
    Stephen J. Patterson
    Marcus Borg
    Stevan Davies
    Geza Vermes
    Richard Horsley
    Hyam Maccoby
    Gerd Theissen
    Bart Ehrman
    Paula Fredriksen
    Gerd Lüdemann
    John P. Meier
    E. P. Sanders
    Robert H. Stein
    Karen Armstrong
    Albert Schweitzer (The Quest for the Historical Jesus)
    Mahlon Smith
    Elaine Pagels

    See also:
    http://wiki.faithfutures.org/index.php/Works_Cited and http://www.jesusdatabase.org/index.php?title=Crossan_Inventory and , earlychristianwritings.com/theories.html

  • Bernardo

    Larry,

    Some 21st century reality:

    Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of “pretty wingie thingie” visits and “prophecies” for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immaculate conceptions).

    Current problems:
    Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, “propheteering/ profiteering” evangelicals and atonement theology,

  • Michele

    I have noticed the term “religion” used in various ways and decided to look up the etymology. Interesting: apparently religion is a word begun by the Roman Catholic church many centuries ago and it means “to bind.” That word is a two-edged sword to my thinking. To be bound by love to Jesus Christ is a good thing; but to be controlled by a “religious order” definitely not…!!!