Catholic bishops at Vatican summit seek elusive common ground

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Left to right, Cardinal Philippe Ouedraogo, Cardinal Ruben Salazar Gomez, Cardinal Vincent Nichols, and Father Federico Lombardi, during  an intense, three-week Vatican summit to debate church teachings and the modern family, at the Vatican on Oct. 14, 2015. Religion News Service photo by Rosie Scammell

Left to right, Cardinal Philippe Ouedraogo, Cardinal Ruben Salazar Gomez, Cardinal Vincent Nichols, and Father Federico Lombardi, during an intense, three-week Vatican summit to debate church teachings and the modern family, at the Vatican on Oct. 14, 2015. Religion News Service photo by Rosie Scammell

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VATICAN CITY (RNS) But the churchmen from around the world may be looking to Pope Francis to rescue them from irreconcilable differences over reform. An African cardinal who compared gay liberation to Islamic fundamentalism may not help matters.

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  • Sister Geraldine Marie, OP, RN, PHN

    Pope Francis wants to be pastoral and that’s as should be. Changing doctrine is NOT being pastoral. However the modern Church is pressured by the secular (if not pagan) world around it, the Church is counter-cultural by its very nature. Homosexual acts are wrong, living together without marriage is wrong, divorce and remarriage is wrong. Polygamy is wrong. These are all sins. The “transgender” question is an abnormality and influenced by some very strange notions about human sexuality.
    One man and one woman, living in a valid marriage where children are possible and welcomed is what the Church teaches. If she changes that teaching to please the surrounding secular/pagan culture, she has failed in her mission to YAH’SHUA Ha’MASHIACH (Jesus Christ) and to all Christians trying to live a moral life and obeying the Ten Commandments.

  • Daniel Berry, NYC

    “My hope, certainly, is that the pope will reflect and issue a magisterial document” after the end of the meeting, British Cardinal Vincent Nichols told a press conference on Wednesday (Oct. 14).

    In other words, I hope the pope will tell us what to do. at least then the heat will be off me.

  • Daniel Berry, NYC

    Bernardo, Sister Geraldine comes here often to badmouth gay people – like a few other people who are regulars in ReligionNews discussion threads. In her postings she reveals that she doesn’t know a bloody thing about the behavioral sciences, and still identifies “the bishops” (especially the boys in the Vatican) with “the Church,” when it’s very clear to anyone with ears to hear that many, many in the church believe and teach things dramatically at variance with what the privileged, closeted white boys in the Vatican want people to believe and do. Who do you think is going to win?

  • Daniel Berry, NYC

    Funny, sister, how your postings never, never, never refer to Jesus’ bald statement, “This is my commandment: that you love one another.” Your narrow mind and hectoring tone don’t put me in mind of the gospel in any way, shape or form. Your lecturing about how to live is a laugh: you’re merely a compliant dogmatist.

  • Richard Rush

    Sister,

    “However the modern Church is pressured by the secular (if not pagan) world around it, . . .”

    Nah. I think the Church is being pressured by the need to maintain cash flow, and that means bowing to the enlightened views of educated people in the rich countries who have been walking away from the Church, and taking their money with them. First and foremost, the Catholic Church is all about power, and it cannot maintain power without money. And that’s why Francis is pope, and Benedict is not. Francis’ job-description is to put a pretty face on traditional church cruelty.

  • Bernardo

    Wow, another deletion. Very strange blog when innocuous comments are continually deleted.

    One more time: Whatever happened to the RCC slogan, “One in Christ”?

    Galatians 3:27-29 New International Version (NIV)

    “27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”

    One major problem with said passage and possibly the reason for the rancor in the RCC ranks, Abraham as with Moses are myths. See the New Torah for Modern Minds. For added details:: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482 NY Times review

  • Daniel Berry, NYC

    Berenardo, I’m more interested in why priests of so many eras and stripes have come to be preoccupied with a Bronze-Age text that (only in passing, mind you) raises a concern about what people put in certain orifices of their own bodies. How did this text from a semi-barbarian society of antiquity become such an overriding theme even in modern ecclesiastical discourse? Why is it the preoccupation of bishops in countries where hatred of people because they are Muslims is considered a Christian duty; while frank robbery of a people by its government other abuses in public life are ignored? Why are 21st Century ecclesiastics in the UK unable to bring themselves to raise such questions forcefully, while being unable to validate the sacramentality of long-standing, committed, deeply loving relationships? How did we get so confused about the teaching of Jesus, who never says a word about same-sex couples, but speaks emphatically about divorce?

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