• Bernardo

    And summarizing to save some time worrying about Judaism or Christianity or Islam:

    Abraham and Moses are myths:

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482 NY Times review and important enough to reiterate.

    New Torah For Modern Minds

    “Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. (prob·a·bly Adverb: Almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell).

    “The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation. “

  • Fran

    Both Abraham and Moses actually did live and die on earth, as did Jesus, the son of God, as well as the son of David and son of Abraham (Matthew 1:1-17), his lineage.

    That fact will be confirmed when both men are resurrected back to life on earth (Acts 24:15; John 5:28,29) during the upcoming millennial rule of Christ Jesus (Isaiah 11:1-9) over the human family.

    Then you will be able to personally talk to them face-to-face about what they did during their lives, as well as receive other blessings that God’s kingdom will provide (Rev. 21:3,4) at that time.

  • Bernardo

    Fran,

    About the book of Revelation:

    “Nineteenth-century agnostic Robert G. Ingersoll branded Revelation “the insanest of all books”.[30] Thomas Jefferson omitted it along with most of the Biblical canon, from the Jefferson Bible, and wrote that at one time, he “considered it as merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams.” [31]

    Martin Luther once “found it an offensive piece of work” and John Calvin “had grave doubts about its value.”[32]

    And Matt 1: 1-17 (Luke 3: 23-38), not authentic: See for example: http://www.faithfutures.org/JDB/jdb368.html and Professor Ludemann in his book, Jesus After 2000 Years, pp. 279-281.

  • Fran

    Bernardo,

    All Scripture (Genesis to Revelation) is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, determining what is wrong and right and providing truth about God, his personality, and his purposes for the human family, which was created by him.

    Both God and his Word, the Bible, will be vindicated and proven to be truth in due time, as expressed above. Many humans have denied God and the Bible through the ages. Many persons did not believe Jesus was the son of God or the Messiah, even after his performing a plethora of miracles, healing the sick and diseased (even touching a leper, causing him to be clean) and resurrecting the dead. The proof was right in front of their eyes!

    I will take the words of Almighty God, who is perfect in love, justice, wisdom and righteousness, over any words or expressions from imperfect and sinful men they express against God and the Bible. In God I will always trust, as well as in his son, Christ Jesus.

  • Bernardo

    Professor JD Crossan notes from his book, Who is Jesus-

    “Moreover, an atonement theology that says God sacrifices his own son in place of humans who needed to be punished for their sins might make some Christians love Jesus, but it is an obscene picture of God. It is almost heavenly child abuse, and may infect our imagination at more earthly levels as well. I do not want to express my faith through a theology that pictures God demanding blood sacrifices in order to be reconciled to us.”

    But then again, there is no god or gods and never were or will be unless you have his or her phone number.

  • Sister Geraldine Marie, OP, RN, PHN

    Quoting a “scholar” like Crossan, a former Dominican priest who lost his faith, isn’t strengthening anyone’s position. Read NT Wright’s response to Crossan.
    Rand’s art is too garish for my taste. I’ve seen other Jewish art that is modern and far better, like Marc Chagall.
    But, “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.”

  • David F

    Wow, that’s like saying that Martians do exist, and we know this because there have been so many science fiction movies about them, and this will be proved beyond a shadow of a doubt when they return in full force sometime in the future and attack us by throwing hero sandwiches off of roofs at us. The mind boggles.

  • Fran

    Bernardo,

    LOVE is the answer to the question of why God gave his son as a ransom sacrifice for the human family, including you and me.

    God loves us so much since that ransom guarantees we will be able to enjoy everlasting life on earth instead of eternal old age, sickness, disease and death (John 3:16).

    Jesus said no one has greater love than someone who would give his life for a friend (John 15:13). Jesus did that, expressing his ultimate love for mankind as well as his Father, God. No one “twisted his arm and made him do it.” Using free will, he felt compelled to do so!

    Humans are made in God’s image, able to reflect aspects of His personality such as love, justice, mercy and wisdom. People can reflect love with much sacrifice to themselves. A person can donate one of his kidneys to save another person’s life. Complete strangers can attempt to rescue persons from a burning car, at a risk to their own lives!

    The love of God and Jesus cannot be denied.

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