Leah Remini on Scientology: What we learned from ’20/20′

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Actress Leah Remini, speaks during a panel discussion at the Disney-ABC Television Group portion of the Television Critics Association Summer press tour in Beverly Hills, California on July 27, 2012. Photo courtesy of REUTERS/Fred Prouser
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Actress Leah Remini, speaks during a panel discussion at the Disney-ABC Television Group portion of the Television Critics Association Summer press tour in Beverly Hills, California on July 27, 2012. Photo courtesy of REUTERS/Fred Prouser *Editors: This photo may only be republished with RNS-REMINI-SCIENTOLOGY, originally transmitted on Nov. 3, 2015.

Actress Leah Remini, speaks during a panel discussion at the Disney-ABC Television Group portion of the Television Critics Association Summer press tour in Beverly Hills, California on July 27, 2012. Photo courtesy of REUTERS/Fred Prouser *Editors: This photo may only be republished with RNS-REMINI-SCIENTOLOGY, originally transmitted on Nov. 3, 2015.

Actress Leah Remini, speaks during a panel discussion at the Disney-ABC Television Group portion of the Television Critics Association Summer press tour in Beverly Hills, California on July 27, 2012. Photo courtesy of REUTERS/Fred Prouser
*Editors: This photo may only be republished with RNS-REMINI-SCIENTOLOGY, originally transmitted on Nov. 3, 2015.

Friday on 20/20, former King of Queens star Leah Remini gave the public a taste of what to expect from her memoir, “Troublemaker: Surviving Hollywood and Scientology.”

In 2013, she joined director Paul Haggis as one of the church’s most famous defectors. She explained what drove her to give up the only religion she’s known since she was five.

Here’s what we learned from her interview with 20/20’s Dan Harris.

She was part of the Sea Organization.

Remini’s mother, Vicki, became a Scientologist when she was five and brought both her daughters into the church. When Remini was a teen, she moved them down to Clearwater, Fla., to Scientology’s headquarters. At that point, she and her sister Nicole stopped traditional schooling in the eighth grade and studied their faith full time and signed a billion-year contract to serve the church (throughout every reincarnation).


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Later, both sisters faced ethics charges for getting involved with boys and narrowly avoided being sent into the Rehabilitation Project Force, the church’s re-education camp.

“When you have screwed up royally in the Sea Org, it’s basically to reform you,” she explained. “You have to wear black. You have to run everywhere you go. You have to call everyone ‘sir.’ … So it’s pretty severe punishment for an adult, not to mention a child.”

The episode led Vicki to withdraw both girls from the Sea Org.

The church treated her very differently before and after she became famous.

Though they left the Sea Org, the Reminis remained in the church, becoming part of the Scientology community in Los Angeles. But not the Celebrity Centre crowd, as she was still a struggling to make ends meet.

“I spent thousands and thousands of dollars” on auditing and Scientology courses deemed necessary for “moving up the Bridge to Total Freedom,” or higher levels of spiritual awareness.


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Once her sitcom became a hit in the late 1990s, doors opened to her within the church. She was given trophies for her millions worth of donations and invited to take part in Scientology videos and entered the social circle of church leader David Miscavige and his wife, Shelly.

Tom Cruise summoned Remini to teach him and then-girlfriend Katie Holmes salsa dancing.

She got a call from Cruise’s Scientology handler asking her to come to his house to give dancing lessons to the new couple. She found Cruise, who was still very much in his exuberant couch-jumping stage, hard to take.

“He was like forcibly kissing Katie and I said, ‘Hey, get a fricking room.’ And well, I was written up for that, and I had to go into session for it.”

One of the officials present that night wrote what is referred to as a “knowledge report,” a form of written tattling on fellow Scientologists who break the rules. Remini confessed that she wrote them herself, even about her own husband. “I wrote up Angelo all the time,” she confessed.

She complained to church officials about Cruise’s public behavior, too. 

His couch-jump on The Oprah Winfrey Show and his heated debate about psychiatry with Today host Matt Lauer rubbed her the wrong way.


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 She told them, “I don’t think he’s becoming of a Scientologist, jumping on couches, and attacking Matt Lauer … and attacking Brooke Shields. Like, what the hell is this guy doing?’ … We need to rein it in, we need to stop all this, and he just needs to be an actor.”

Church leaders told her she was only complaining because she had her own baggage, but she continued to express concern about their obsession with Cruise.

Increasingly, they cast her as a villain.

“You then become guilty,” she said. Being critical of Tom Cruise is being critical of Scientology itself. … You are a person who is anti-the aims and goals of Scientology. You are evil.”

She violated the church policy on childbirth.

Scientologist mothers are supposed to forego drugs and have as silent a birthing experience as possible to minimize emotional trauma on their newborns. “I was going to attempt to do it, you know, for my church,” Remini said, but reality put a stop to that.

Katie Holmes complained to church leaders in writing that Remini ruined her wedding. 

Remini produced a knowledge report she says came from the bride herself. “It starts with, ‘I was dismayed at the behavior of Leah Remini during the events leading up to our wedding. … At the wedding, the behavior as a guest, a friend … was very upsetting,’” Remini read from the form.

This time, Remini could not escape reprogramming. She was dispatched to Florida and put in intense, day-long auditing sessions where officials tried to extract an apology from her.


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Even after that experience, she still didn’t want to leave. As a lifelong Scientologist, she knew the cost of defection: disconnection from her family and friends, who are made to shun anyone who quits. That meant being shut off from her husband, mother and sister.  So she told them what they wanted to hear.

Later, she did apologize to Miscavige in writing, saying she was sorry for “acting like a complete idiot at the wedding.”

She finally got an apology from Katie Holmes. 

Holmes’ sneak-attack divorce filing, reportedly done to save their daughter Suri from enrollment in the Sea Org, left Remini feeling “vindicated,” but not satisfied. “Where’s my apology?” she asked, adding that their divorce dredged up residual anger about the reprogramming episode following the wedding.

Earlier this week, Holmes sent ABC News to give Remini a statement. “I regret having upset Leah in the past and wish her only the best.” She did not admit or deny writing the knowledge report. She says she was “touched” by Holmes’ gesture.

The final straw? When church officials came to her house and verbally abused her.

 Though Remini had committed two major sins — reading criticism of the church and talking to ex-members — she remained civil with both Cruise and Miscavige.

One night, two Scientology officials came to her home and things got heated. Expletives were thrown at Remini, prompting her husband to grab one of them by the collar.


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She left the church after that incident, formally breaking ties that summer. Though Remini still feared her family would disconnect from her, they all sided with her over the church. “That means everything,” she said.

The church contested the story of her departure, saying in a statement posted Friday night that they expelled her. They argued, “The real story is that she desperately tried to remain a Scientologist in 2013, knowing full well she was on the verge of being expelled for refusing to abide by the high level of ethics and decency Scientologists are expected to maintain. Her repeated ethical lapses and callous treatment of others led to an ecclesiastical review which resulted in her being expelled.”

The statement went on to say, “Leah Remini has become what she once declared she never wanted to be known as: ‘this bitter ex-Scientologist.’ … She needs to move on with her life instead of pathetically exploiting her former religion, her former friends and other celebrities for money and attention to appear relevant again.”

And after all that’s happened, she doesn’t regret her 30 years as a Scientologist.

“At the end, I mean I don’t regret what I’ve been through,” Remini said. “I don’t regret spending my life there, because it really did teach me a lot … and because we’ve all survived it, we’re all surviving it and living life and it’s kind of like we have a gift of second chance of life.”

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  • Jon

    Wow, it’s pretty clear that Scientology is another religion out of touch with reality and controlling it’s members. Scary.

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  • Fran

    Great for her, and others who have left that money-making organization, as well!

  • Tad

    “She violated the church policy on childbirth.” Guys, there’s not a “church policy on childbirth.” You’re a mom, and you have the birth that you want depending on your desires and circumstances.

    http://www.scientologyparent.com/silent-birth/silent-birth-questions-answers/

    We’ve got 3 kids. Church has 100% zero say in how they’re born. Doesn’t enter it AT ALL.

  • Sylvan Braithewaite

    That was a good summary. Just over a month ago, when I heard Leah’s book was coming out, I worried a little that she would hold back. Instead she has unleashed her stories and feelings and it is going to have a major impact on Scientology, and help a lot of people both escape the cult, and avoid the trap in the first place.

    With Tom Cruise’s money and position of power in Hollywood, he has been able to stifle the stories of too many people who have experienced weird behavior around him, including his Scientology-induced behavior. Katie and Nicole have barely said anything!

    Leah has added to the badly needed anecdotes about Cruise. Why is Cruise important? People too many people love him as an actor, and wander into Scientology partly because they associate it with him and his success.

  • Garson Abuita

    Fine, they don’t have a “policy,” they just have a very strong opinion. What happens if you don’t have a silent birth and they find out about it?

  • Scientology is a cult for the rich. If you have to pay to grow in your “church” then you can be sure it is a false religion. You can be sure that people are being taken advantage of by greedy leaders. The truth is free. God’s gift of eternal life is free, not that it is without cost. The cost is at the very highest level but it is not charged to us. Jesus Christ the Son of God paid our debt, He paid our price on the cross for our sins. “He that knew no sin became sin for us that we might become the righteousness of God in Him”. Receive Jesus Christ as Savior. Turn away from false teachings and rebellion and know His peace and promise of everlasting life. God Bless

  • WakeUp

    Scientology is about feeding your ego. Making you think, something greater is out there for you if you join them.

    Scientology is about sales and money and fame because the more fame you get the more money in your pockets.

    Take that money and give it to charity or save it for your old age but please don’t waste it on Scientology. Just because that organization feed’s your ego does not mean you have to feed their pockets. Quit that place and come back into reality. Who is in control?