World religious leaders condemn Paris carnage

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People hug on the street near the Bataclan concert hall following fatal attacks in Paris, France, November 14, 2015. Gunmen and bombers attacked busy restaurants, bars and a concert hall at locations around Paris on Friday evening, killing dozens of people in what a shaken French President described as an unprecedented terrorist attack.    REUTERS/Christian Hartmann   - RTS6X48

People hug on the street near the Bataclan concert hall following fatal attacks in Paris, France, November 14, 2015. Gunmen and bombers attacked busy restaurants, bars and a concert hall at locations around Paris on Friday evening, killing dozens of people in what a shaken French President described as an unprecedented terrorist attack. REUTERS/Christian Hartmann - RTS6X48

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(RNS) Pope Francis raises the specter of a World War III “in pieces,” Muslims issue statements of condemnation, while evangelical Christians in America debate whether to speak of a “war with Islam.”

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  • Jon

    There are “few followers” of the Torah?

    The 5 books of the Torah are the same as the first 5 books of the various Christian Bibles. There are more Christians than there are Muslims and Jews combined.

    Both the Torah and the New Testament are every bit as bad as the Qu’ran.

    The Torah includes the hatred of all other religions over and over, such as in Deuteronomy 13, were those of other religions are to be killed – even if they are your family. In the New Testament, a letter of John calls all non-christians “antichrists”, and Luke has Jesus telling a parable where he has non-Christians killed in front of him, and so on.

    Any of them can be very dangerous if followed literally and radically.

    It’s good to see world religious leaders – of all kinds – condemning this violence.

  • Bernardo

    Noah as with Abraham and Moses was a mythical character invented by the Jewish scribes to give credence to their religion. No Noah, no ark. So just another con game in the guise of religion. Very strange that some continue to believe that the OT is an historical document. See added details in the NY Times review at

  • Bernardo

    “Conventionally, scholarship has accorded priority to the first three gospels in historical work on Jesus, putting progressively less credence in works of late date. John’s Gospel for example is routinely dismissed as a source……


    “Since “the higher criticism” of the 19th century, some historians have largely rejected the gospel of John as a reliable source of information about the historical Jesus.[3][4] “[M]ost commentators regard the work as anonymous,”[5] and date it to 90-100.”

    “The authorship has been disputed since at least the second century, with mainstream Christianity believing that the author is John the Apostle, son of Zebedee. Modern experts usually consider the author to be an unknown non-eyewitness, though many apologetic Christian scholars still hold to the conservative Johannine view that ascribes authorship to John the Apostle.”

  • Bernardo

    And from Professor Gerd Ludemann, in his book, Jesus After 2000 Years, p. 416,

    “Anyone looking for the historical Jesus will not find him in the Gospel of John. “

  • I’m not sure it’s enough for “religious leaders” to mouth condemnations of this savagery. It keeps happening in spite of their pronouncements, and ISIS/ISIL/IS/whatever … as well as Boko Haram, al Shabaab, the al Nusra Front, etc. all keep attracting Muslim recruits.

    Mere words are no longer sufficient. That’s been obvious for years. The Amman Message was issued 11 years ago, but it appears to have had zero effect on Islam worldwide; if anything the Islamist barbarity has gotten much worse since then.

    What good, really, are these condemnations? Why does anyone think they’ll ever matter? When will people stop talking and start acting … which has to begin with directly confronting (and disciplining) their own co-religionists?

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  • Jon

    Are you responding to my mention of a letter from John inciting hatred against non-christians by saying that it wasn’t really by John? Of course it wasn’t – but biblical literalists who think it’s all the word of a deity do indeed *think* it is by John, so my point still stands. All the Abrahamic religions – and indeed any religion that accepts the supernatural and has a hateful book that the followers think is from some deity – are capable of turning loving people into monsters.

  • Bernardo


    As a good student, you have read the reiterations of the “fems” (flaws, errors, muck and stench) of religion. Therefore the seeds have been planted in rich soil. Go therefore and preach the truth to all nations, reiterating as you go amongst the lost, bred, born and brainwashed souls of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism as Rational Thinking makes its triumphant return all because of you!!!!

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  • Sean

    It is wake up time for the Islamic world. For too long, regimes are telling us that to be a good Muslim, one has to refrain from drinking alcohol and women have to wear at least a veil. This is bull and when such trivialities are being talked about while the elephant in the room (Islamic terrorism) is not debated says it all. Alcohol is banned and women are veiled supposedly to stop violence but this violence happens anyway and blind eyes are turned and in some cases, the regimes encourage people to be violent. The Koran is abused and today’s Islamic leaders have blasphemed on Islam. It may be fashionable to single out just ISIS/al Qaeda/Taliban but the rulers of places like Saudi Arabia and some unelected elements in Iran are equally guilty of wrecking Islam and them calling ISIS evil is the kettle calling the pot black. Only an Islamic country that allows people dress/drink as they like and who do not support any violent organisation have a right to condemn ISIS. None exist.

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  • Your examples from the New Testament are either uninformed and simplistic or purposefully deceitful.
    Jesus speaking in Luke is telling a parable of a king, but he said later that His kingdom was not of this world, so his siting of the deaths of those who opposed the king were a spiritual death for those that refused to acknowledge their creator. John’s antichrists were not some superhuman and evil entities but those who would twists the ideas and words of Christ in order to deceive and lead people to the wrong conclusions (in that sense, much like what you are doing, if you are aware, and not simply confused)

    If you have a problem with those who would distort and confuse ideas toward an evil end, your beef is with the human condition, not with the ideas of those who propose to love their creator and to love their neighbors as themselves…

  • Wow…the hypocrisy of Islam knows no bounds,does it? Specifically, the blatant hypocrisy of Al-Azhar University.A few months ago,the…”preeminent seat of Sunni Muslim scholarship”…,refused to label these vicious murderers,rapists,and kidnappers of children apostates (which begs the obvious question: What foul,heinous deed WOULD render one an apostate in the Islamic mindset??); now,we are actually supposed to believe that Islam doesn’t condone or support violence to achieve its aims? Is that some kind of joke, only understood in the so-called “Muslim world “??? Give me a break.If this so-called ” university “actually propogates such nonsense,it has ZERO credibility as a viable entity deciding ANY modicum of truth.What a joke!