Prayer shamers get both prayer and policy wrong (COMMENTARY)

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Elvina Guerrero, 57, holds a candle during a vigil for San Bernardino County employees after a shooting in San Bernardino, California on December 7, 2015. Photo courtesy of REUTERS/Patrick T. Fallon
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Elvina Guerrero, 57, holds a candle during a vigil for San Bernardino County employees after a shooting in San Bernardino, California on December 7, 2015. Photo courtesy of REUTERS/Patrick T. Fallon *Editors: This photo may only be republished with RNS-MARSHALL-COLUMN, originally transmitted on Dec. 9, 2015.

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(RNS) Debate has been the missing element time and again on a range of issues, from gun control and poverty to climate change.

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  • Barry the Baptist

    “These analysts question the modeling on which the international agenda is premised…”
    Which model? The old one that predicted more extreme climate change or the newer one based on updated data and better analysis techniques?

    “Looking at patterns of poverty here in the United States, it is clear that domestic poverty is closely associated with the absence of married fathers in the home and a lack of work.”
    Or is it clear that there is a correlation between single parenting and domestic poverty? Or is it just a lack of work?

    The author equivocates on these things. This article smacks of the “teach the debate” mantra that is pushed by ID creationists: take a good idea, like debate, and twist it to give a platform to bad ideas.

    All of this to (weakly) defend prayer from accusations of “pointless” which, by the author’s definition, must be followed by actual “action.”

    Maybe something would improve if the author didn’t waste time trotting out tired platitudes…

  • Be Brave

    The demons that spoke to Jesus were not wrong about Him. So those that represent an oppositional side to Christianity are necessarily off base always. And these obvious fanatical Christian bashers at the New York Daily News are right as well. Like a broken clock of course.

    Jesus prayed and Jesus acted. The carnage caused by bad people doing bad acts with a gun needs to be solved. And implementing “sensible gun safety measures” (though obviously a gun-grabbing scam/lie from the anti-gun Left) isn’t bad or wrong. But gun-owners need to the people that develop the sensible NEW gun laws. Clearly the western-world is no longer a morally sound place. Watching the Jesus act portrayed in the Gospels shows us that prayer and action go hand in hand. So we jettison the secularism zealot (control freaks) in all of this gun control fanaticism, and allow the more morally sound to develop solutions that are fair and sensible.

  • Emie

    As the saying goes, “Two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer.”

  • Ajiitai

    Obviously you have never tried praying, or at some point you received an answer from the Divine that you didn’t like.

    At some point in your life you will encounter a situation over which you will have no control, your money won’t be able to change the situation, and so dire that no one else on earth will have the expertise or power to give relief. I’ve been there. Prayer works.

    Jesus placed a high priority on prayer. Luke, in his account, tells us, “One of those days Jesus went out to a mountainside to pray, and spent the night praying to God.” Prayer was certainly not a waste of time for him.

    But he also charged us to also use our strength, our hands and legs, and our resources to work for the good of others. It’s not either/or, but both/and.

  • Karen

    Unfortunately, PDW is right. I too have yet to see any proven instance of a prayer causing a god to do anything. Nor has anyone else, really. Consider all those parents of really sick kids who prayed fervently for god to save their kids yet the kids died.Many other cases. It’s clear; either god is an a-hole and doesn’t care to get involved, or doesn’t exist.

  • Prayer Doesn’t Work

    Here is the truth: There is not a single proven, verifiable case of prayer ever causing a divine entity to do anything, ever. Prayer simply does not work.

    Prayer takes people away from actually working on real solutions to their problems.
    Prayer prevents you from getting badly needed exercise. Prayer makes you fat.
    Prayer wears out your clothes prematurely.
    Prayer contributes to global warming through excess CO2 emissions.
    Prayer messes up your knees and your neck and your back.
    Prayer makes you think doilies are exciting.
    Prayer makes you secretively flat​ulent and embarrassed about it.
    Prayer makes your kids avoid spending time with you.
    Prayer makes you fro​thy like Rick Santorum. Just google him to find out.
    Prayer makes you hoard cats.
    Prayer dulls your senses.
    Prayer has been shown to have no effect towards what was prayed for.
    Prayer wastes time.