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Inauguration speaker Franklin Graham: God allowed Donald Trump to win

The Rev. Franklin Graham, on the steps of the Columbia, S.C., Statehouse for part of his 50-state Decision America tour, calls on an audience of 7,100 to pray and vote for evangelical Christian candidates and run for office themselves. Religion News Service photo by Cathy Grossman

(RNS) The Rev. Franklin Graham isn’t sure which Scripture he’ll read at the Jan. 20 inauguration of President-elect Donald Trump.

The evangelist and head of both the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association and Christian international relief organization Samaritan’s Purse won’t get to make remarks at the event, but he will get to pick his own Bible passage, which could say a lot.

Will it be something hopeful to heal a divided nation? Something pointed about the importance of praying for leaders?


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Graham was praying about that Thursday (Dec. 29), he told RNS, the day after it was announced he is one of six clergy chosen to offer the invocation, benediction and several readings at the swearing-in ceremony.

“You want it to be meaningful not only to your president-elect, but you want it to be meaningful also to the nation,” Graham said.

“I’m taking time just to pray and ask God to give me wisdom and guidance because it’s a responsibility that I take very seriously.”

This is the third inauguration Graham will have attended, he noted. The first was to assist his father Billy Graham at the second inaugural of President Bill Clinton in 1997; the second, to offer the invocation at the first inaugural of President George W. Bush in 2001.


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It follows his Decision America Tour, during which he held rallies in each of the 50 U.S. state capitals to urge evangelical Christians to pray about the upcoming election and vote for candidates of any party who agree with their values.

Weeks before launching the tour, Graham announced he had resigned from the Republican Party and declared himself an independent. And he was careful to note throughout the campaign that he endorsed neither Trump, a Republican, nor Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton.

But, he said, he got the sense “God was going to do something in our country — just from the people coming early in the day, standing in hot sun, standing in freezing cold, standing in snow, standing in rain, and they came to pray. They didn’t come to hear me. They came to pray for their nation.”

Graham has had some supportive words for Trump, noting the president-elect has surrounded himself from the start with a number of evangelical Christians in a way he said Clinton didn’t. That included Vice President-elect Mike Pence; his choice to lead the Department of Housing and Urban Development, Ben Carson; Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr.; and former Arkansas governor and Baptist minister Mike Huckabee.

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Donald Trump chats with Franklin Graham, right, at Billy Graham’s 95th birthday in 2013.  Image courtesy of DeMoss

“Even though Donald Trump has some rough edges, there’s something inside of him that desires the counsel of Christian men and women, and I don’t know one Christian on Hillary Clinton’s team,” he said.

Clinton has spoken openly about her United Methodist faith. And asked about her choice of running mate, Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine, who volunteered with Jesuit missionaries in Honduras as a young man, Graham said the Democrat had difficulty connecting with evangelical Christians in the same way because he was Catholic and because of his party’s support for abortion rights and same-sex marriage.

He also pointed to the list of potential Supreme Court justices the Trump campaign had released, saying, as he had before the election, “It’s not about her emails. It’s not about his bad language. It’s about the Supreme Court … and who do you trust to appoint judges that are going to be in favor of Christian liberty?”

“I think maybe God has allowed Donald Trump to win this election to protect this nation for the next few years by giving maybe an opportunity to have some good judges,” he said.

It’s not the first time Graham expressed his belief God had played a role in the results of the November election. He had tweeted earlier this month suggesting it was God, not Russia, that had interfered with the outcome.

In an interview Thursday, he said he doesn’t know if Russia hacked the election, and he doesn’t presume to know how God works. But he knows God answers prayer.

And, Graham said, “All I know is Donald Trump was supposed to lose the election,” according to projections of the results.

“For these states to go the way they did, in my opinion, I think it was the hand of God,” he said. “It wasn’t hacking. It wasn’t Wiki-leaky or whatever. It was God, in my opinion, and I believe his hand was at work, and I think he’s given Christians an opportunity.”

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Emily McFarlan Miller is a national reporter for RNS based in Chicago. She covers evangelical and mainline Protestant Christianity.

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  • The Trump administration will serve as a sort of multilevel marketing operation for charlatans. Thus, a grifter like Graham has a substantial opportunity to fleece the gullible just like The President-Elect. It’s all good. What is damaged however is the brand name of Christianity from its association with crooks like Graham et al.

  • This is a very interesting development. Franklin Graham is a fundamentalist Christian preacher who makes no bones about who is going to hell (hint: all non-Jesus believing people who don’t hide their indiscretions). But for some reason Trump gets a pass. George Michael and Carrie Fisher didn’t…. Right there that is all you need to know about American Christianity – it favors an avowed predator (financial and sexual) over real people who struggle and share their struggles and help others. I have known for 20 years (my adult life) that Christianity was meaningless and just led the weak. Now we have confirmation. Look at the other preacher who is praying at the inauguration – a rich woman who makes her money off of poor ignorant people.. Fits right in with the oligarchs.

  • So Franklin was basically saying that Tim Kaine (and subsequently, all Catholics) aren’t real Christians. Which means that –
    1.) Billy Graham was an apostate himself since he partnered with numerous Catholic groups and individuals in every city where he held an evangelistic event, and
    2.) the Holy Spirit is a pathetic failure for not inventing Protestantism (the ‘One and Only True Faith™ ‘) for more than 1,500 years after Pentecost.
    Thank God we now have Franklin Graham with us, so we don’t have to rely on the words and teachings of losers like Billy and God’s Spirit.

  • Christianity has always associated with crooks like Graham. It is good you see that it is no longer a righteous belief, but it has a long history of doing so. (In fact, without the crooks of the past, it is highly unlikely it would have ever survived!)

  • Good points, Etranger. It’s also the case that the Christian mythbook AKA the bible has its god demanding and threatening some pretty heinous acts (killing and torture included), so its claimed intent for Trump to become president would be merely par for the course for the evil Christian god as presented in Christianity’s own horrid doctrine.

  • To call Franklin Graham a moron would be an insult to other morons. Paula White? Journalist Betsy Woodruff writes that her “ministry” is the “church version of Trump University.” Cardinal Dolan? As archbishop of NY he opposed expanding the statute of limitations to aid the victims of clergy sexual abuse of monors, and when he was archbishop of Milwaukee he reportedly worked hard to shield church assets from being used to compensate victims of clergy sexual abuse of minors. All three are excellent symbols of the incoming Trump reign. Arrrrrrrgh!! — Edd Doerr

  • Romans 13:1 – New International Version

    Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.

  • The Declaration of Independence, 4 July 1776

    That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

  • We’ve already set out here that when Sandi makes her standard vacuous replies such as “lol” and “yawn”, she is acknowledging that she has no valid case to present herself and is conceding the points of the post that she is responding to. So, thanks for that acknowledgement again, Sandi. It’s one more step forward for you in leaving your foul, bigoted religion behind.

  • Sandi, the vicious sky fairy of your sick god myths has no authority whatsoever. In fact, your god does not exist.

  • disqus_…, see above re the meaning of Sandi’s “lol” posts. She’s finally leaving her sick Christian religion behind.

  • No, Franklin Graham, it was Flying Spaghetti Monster, not God, who allowed Donald Trump to win. ?

  • Eh. If you want to make this a “smart atheists versus dumb Christians” attempt at over-generalization, have fun. It’s the equivalent of saying atheists are mass murderers because Stalin, Mao, etc.

  • I don’t make the “smart atheists versus dumb Christians” over generalizations. They are stupid to attempt. Just like the “atheists are mass murderers” because of Stalin, Mao (of course, that argument is even more flawed than most since those were govt leaders not leaders of “atheism”. Atheism was a political tool. )* Might want to try the reproach on someone who did what you are criticizing lol.

    * parenthetical comment added

  • I agree Franklin. See The London Baptist Confession of Faith 1689 Chpt 3 para 1 Of God’s Decree.

  • Richard, please stop being a fool (edit) Psalm 14:1 …The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good.

  • So, according to Frankie, the morals and values crowd chose an adulterous, fornicating, ConMan to be their leader. And God approves of that. All the really shows is the aptness of the old saw: “God created man in his own image. And man, being a gentleman, returned the compliment.”

    Frankie, you are such a Donald.

  • If you considered the rest of Romans 13, you might not be so quick as to cherry-pick a single verse. The only thing that concerns me was that Paul assumed that the end was near. Donald Trump is a man who is likely to expedite such an outcome.

  • The most interesting question would be then which vote reflects the hand of God then? The Electoral College or the vote of American citizens?

  • Sandi Luckins, again, the terms for your response have been clearly stated to you. Vacuous or derisive posts from you are your acknowledgement that you have no valid argument that you can make. So, thank you for acknowledging again that you have no counter-argument to offer, and that you accept that your religion is evil and bigoted.

  • Sandi Luckins, the terms for your response have been clearly
    stated to you. Vacuous or derisive posts from you such as you just made are your
    acknowledgement that you have no valid argument that you can make. So,
    thank you for acknowledging again that you have no counter-argument to
    offer, and that you accept that your religion is evil and bigoted.

  • No, Sandi. As you have already plainly acknowledged above, it is the horrid sky fairy of your sick Christian myths that is vile and evil.

  • Sandi Luckins, the terms for your response have been clearly
    stated to you above. Vacuous or derisive posts from you such as you just made are your acknowledgement that you have no valid argument that you can make. So,
    thank you for acknowledging again that you have no counter-argument to
    offer, and that you accept that your religion is evil and bigoted.

  • We’ve elected Emperor Nero, who wouldn’t know Two Corinthians from Three Kings, and whose god may be Mammon, but the Rev. Graham thinks God sent him.

    Do we see this event as a blessing or God’s wrath? (Hint: An Act of God is not something pleasant).

  • Given that Hilary won the people’s vote and Trump won the electoral college, I can’t even contemplate that God had much to do with who will be the next president.

  • Actually, I see Trump’s election as possibly signalling the end of the ‘American Empire’ – but unfortunately, with collateral damage to other first world countries.

  • hillary won california’s vote. the electoral college did as intended: spread the effects of demographics across the nation-state.

  • I love how so many Christians can know the actions of their god. Remember that if Trump screws up the country, we can blame God since he anointed Trump.

  • California wouldn’t have put Clinton over the top in the popular vote
    total without the additional 61.4 million votes she received in other
    states.

  • The more scripture I get out -the more people are helped.

    Isaiah 55:11King James Version (KJV)

    11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

  • One just needs to read scripture. Many people that the Lord placed in power did. Let’s see what He has in mind. Obama made the country filthy by endorsing sin.

  • Absolutely – especially when the same crew considered Obama to be non-Christian, doomed to hell, likely a Muslim and a wife who was the Whore of Babylon.

  • So God hates sins of all kind and demands sinners repent…. unless it refers to one who made empty promises to kiss the posteriors or Christian Fundamentalist cretins.

    You have no morals. Your god is really venal and unworthy of praise.

  • I would only believe that God appointed Trump if, at his inauguration, the heavens opened up and a heavenly voice rang out proclaiming that this is my servant whom I have chosen to lead this country and whom I will forgive for his sins once he confesses them and asks for my forgiveness. Otherwise I will suggest free will (and a less than inspiring Democratic presidential candidate) is the only possible reason for that man becoming president.

  • It took me about 10 seconds to get a reliable analysis. Hint, I googled which states did Hilary win the poplar vote in.

  • Interesting comment. Please read about the life of one of God’s chosen, King David. He did terrible things! Yet, God chose him to lead the Jewish people. Sometimes God chooses the person you would least choose or expect. In light of this, its worth asking, how many leaders in congress have been discovered to be lying, fornicating, con men? Have any of them chosen to turn from their wicked ways? How many Presidents over time have been later discovered to be rapists or just plain immoral? (Hint: Bill Clinton. Dont think he has ever admitted it, however.) Time will tell if Donald Trump has been chosen by God. Yes, he has done things he is ashamed of…I hope he has confessed them to God. I do remember Trump in a video recently giving a public apology. Why would he do this? Maybe God is working in his life. Lets wait and see. In the meantime, those of us who do, will continue to pray God’s hand is upon America and upon President elect Donald Trump.

  • Thanks, Sandi. It’s great to see you acknowledging repeatedly that your bible stories are mainly fictional, and that your religion is bigoted and evil. As your next step forward for you in leaving your religions delusions, you should begin trying to develop some critical thinking skills, starting from a study of common fallacies that you’ve often fallen into using. FallacyFiles dot org is a good site to start that from.

  • Sandi, your vicious mass killer of a god that your sicko bible describes is not a creature that anyone should look up to or follow.

  • That would simply be one more Trump mistake. Jesus is no “saviour”. He was a mere mortal who rotted away and died thousands of years ago, and ain’t coming back. The entire Jesus-sacrifice story, the foundation of the Christian delusions, is also rubbish in regard to “sacrifice” by a purportedly omnipotent being.

  • Thanks again, Sandi. It’s great to see you acknowledging repeatedly that
    your bible stories are mainly fictional, and that your religion is
    bigoted and evil. As your next step forward for you in leaving your
    religions delusions, you should begin trying to develop some critical
    thinking skills, starting from a study of common fallacies that you’ve
    often fallen into using. FallacyFiles dot org is a good site to start
    that from.

  • Thanks, Sandi. It’s great to see you acknowledging repeatedly that
    your bible stories are mainly fictional, and that your religion is
    bigoted and evil.

  • Sandi, no, your foul scripture about your mass killer, human rights abusing “god” of your Christian tall tales helps no one, and merely is your way of hiding behind your sky fairy blanket. You’ve already acknowledged that point.

  • Thanks, Sandi. It’s great to see you acknowledging again that
    your bible stories are mainly fictional, and that your religion is
    bigoted and evil. As your next step forward for you in leaving your
    religions delusions, you should begin trying to develop some critical
    thinking skills, starting from a study of common fallacies that you’ve
    often fallen into using here. FallacyFiles dot org is a good site to start
    that from.

  • Has Trump even admitted he has such faults? Nope. Your alleged recollection of an apology of any type is bearing false witness.

    But in reality, you dont actually care. All pretenses of caring about public morals from your crowd is self serving bullshit. If the people suit your needs, you don’t care how immoral they are. Morals really are something for others to follow. Not you, not anyone you need.

    The next time you feel the need to weigh in on the morals of others, don’t. Your input on the subject will be of no value.

  • Franky boy should try ‘following’ Christ by exposing evil, instead of worshiping him, and using him to support satanic trash …and for his own selfish benefit.

    Its just more delusional bs while ‘christian’ leadership is allied in a death clinch with the Kings of headchoppin in a slow genocide, feverishly destroying the middle east for dominance and control of the multi-$Trillion global gas/oil industry while feeding us intentional deception about ‘fighting terrorism’…

    Christ, all the disciples and prophets were killed by greasy preachers and greedy politicians for exposing them and breaking their ‘laws’. Its cover to cover Christianity 101 and ‘christians’ don’t have a clue. NONE! They should start following Jesus instead of worshiping him while drowning in pharaseeical ‘law’.

    Like those before us…
    Isaiah 1:23 Your leaders are rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loves gifts, and follow after rewards: they deny justice to the fatherless, neither does the plight of the widow come to them. Isa 56:11 …they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter (district). Rom 16:18 …they serve their own belly; and by GOOD words and FAIR speeches deceive the minds of the simple. Jer 9:5 …they exhaust themselves in greed. Their habitation is in the midst of deceit… Prov 22:16 they oppress the poor to increase their riches, and they give to the rich… Psa 26:10 In whose hands is mischief, and their right hand (priority) is full of bribes. Psa 5:9 They flatter with their tongue. There is no faithfulness in their mouth; their inward part is truly wicked; their throat is an open tomb. Psa 12:2 They speak vanity every one with his neighbor: with flattering lips and with a double heart do they speak. Amos 5:7 They turn justice to bitterness, and neglect whats right… 5:12 they afflict the just, they take a bribe, and they turn aside the poor from whats right. 2 Peter 2:18 they speak great swelling words of pride, they manipulate using the desires of the people, through much wantonness… 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption… Isa 59:14 judgment is turned away backward, and justice stands far off: for truth is fallen. 1Tim 6:5 Perverse men of corrupt minds, destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness… 2 Tim 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools. 2 Peter 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; 2:14 Having eyes full of adultery, and cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: a mind they have exercised with greedy practices; cursed men. Ezekiel 33:31 …they come to you as the people come …they hear your words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they show much love, but their heart goes after their greed.
    Jeremiah 9:3 they bend their tongues like their bow for lies: but they are not valiant for the truth; they proceed from evil to evil, and they dont know Good …they deceive every one, and will not speak the truth: they have taught their tongue to speak lies, and exhaust themselves in greed. Their habitation is in the midst of deceit; because of deceit they refuse to know Good …their tongue is as an arrow shot out; it speaks deceit: he speaks peaceably to neighbors, but in his mind he lays their wait.

    There’s tons more. Its cover to cover Christianity 101.

    And here’s some modern truths…
    While the so-called ‘church’ wallows in delusion, their ‘christian’ congress, in this ‘christian nation’ is $20 TRILLION in debt and climbing, budgetless, full of adultery and fornication, ‘legally’ functioning in collusion, drowning in ‘legalized’ corruption, their foundation is Betrayal, savagely rapin the public treasury writing contracts to friends and family …their wives, daughters and girl friends secretly getting abortions, eating birth control like candy …heavily ‘invested’ in the poisoning of the planet, recently ‘legalizing’ the pumping of fracking waste directly into the Gulf of Mexico! …sitting on the committees intentionally writing the laws sending jobs abroad, quietly investing in them as they go! ..’legalized’ tax evasion for the rich while the teachers, cops, shipyard workers and nurses pay the bills, neglecting society, ravaging the planet while the duped cops and soldiers run around cleaning up their wickedness …institutionalized deception and manipulation claiming speech is now money, bribery is lobbying, big businesses they whor with are people, 501C4 is tax-deductible social welfare! even calling it ‘Dark Money’ …on and on, its modern day Sorcery.

    They’ve ‘legalized’ the very things Christianity considers evil – porn, alcohol, abortion, drugs, prostitution, bribery(lobbying), televised filth and depravity, violence(MMA), barrooms and strip clubs on every corner, etc …deviously betrayed us on the Single Payer Plan receiving $2Billion from demonically greedy BigPharma and HealthCare since 2009 …in a treacherous death clinch with the Grand Dragons of head-choppin suicidal terrorists, giving them F-16s, M1Abrams, state of the art bases and technology, drones, logistics, Sops helping them overthrow another tyrant in Syria to install a Qatari pipeline from the largest methane reserves in the world underneath the Persian Gulf to Europe …’legally’ funding, arming and training suicidal terrorists militias Al-Qaida, Nusra and others with ‘tax-payer’ money “fighting terrorism”, in a slow middle east genocide for dominance and control of global natural gas/oil markets …saturated in the blood of millions of innocents, creating enemies by the tens of millions, who are now running around trying to kill us …bullying China’s extraction of crystalized methane in the South China Sea, encompassing Russia with bases and armament cutting their Ukrainian economic umbilical cord… They’ve been overthrowing South American governments (some 2and3 times) and upheaving Africa for the past century. Our CIA specializes in overthrowing governments that won’t cooperate in their corporate hustle, uh ‘Capitalism”. They’ve installed some of the most vicious tyrants the planet has ever seen …such sophistication in creating millions of refugees, widows and orphans …the varieties of anguish, misery, despair, death and destruction …the magnitude of treachery and betrayal of humanity, legalized and sanctioned by a ‘Christian Congress’. Not only ‘legalized, but invested and promoted! It makes the Four Horsemen metaphor child’s play. ‘Satan’ would blush. They’re ‘legally’ getting rich from it all for God’s sake!

    ‘Christian’ politicians, preachers and their duped, babbling supporters are knowingly or unknowingly the antichrists that their Bible speaks of. Those in place of Christ, claiming or representing Christ while intentionally confusing, deluding, deceiving, manipulating, exploiting…betraying and working evil on the world …not some fantasized, comic-book-like, delusional bs about a magic man giving everyone a 666 while blowing up tanks with lightning bolts coming from his fingertips. They prey on the ignorant and simple minded, intentionally using faith and God for political/monetary gain, which is abominable, blasphemous and satanic! I won’t even go into the Catholic church being rife in homosexuality, chronic pedophilia, mafia money laundering, etc.

    They are about as ‘spirit led’ as trump’s pe nis – about as inquisitive as a hammer. They’ve regressed to a paranoid Religion, a delusional cult fantasizing in primitive, dreamy, hair-splitting, ‘theological’ bs, detached from truth/God, drivin by fear and hate, motivated by rhetoric and propaganda. The average one would support a filthy rich, tax-dodging, “two” Corinthians, puzzy grabbin, blasphemous sexual predator – a real anti-christ who says “I don’t need much forgiveness b/c I don’t make mistakes”, while their bible explicitly describes him and their eventual following! The spiritually dead priests and preachers supporting him share his characteristics of sexual prowess and greed of money.

    And they will be mindlessly worshiping and glorifying him soon, when a do-nothing congress finally writes an infrastructure bill creating millions of ‘jobs’ that they callously refused to do when their “Obama the antichrist sharia law undercover moo’slum mole is gonna take our guns and destroy our country and take our wealth to Kenya” – intentional lies, slander, mockery, condemnation, ridicule, deception, manipulation, distraction – exploitation and betrayal started.

    And while these spiritually dead, self righteous pharisees gleefully worship him, they will continue exploiting God as their global destruction and genocidal horror for wealth continues… “destroys wonderfully with peace”.

    John 7:7 The world hates me because I expose it, that the works thereof are evil.

    Ephesians 5:11 Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.

    1 Timothy 5:20 those elders who are sinning you are to expose before everyone, so that the others may take warning.

    Prov 8:13 The fear of the lord is to hate evil…

    Psalms 97:10 You that love the lord, hate evil…

    Amos 5:15 Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish justice: it may be that God will be gracious to you.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKV1sTw8zOc

    https://www.thenation.com/article/how-many-missions-has-the-us-military-carried-out-in-africa-no-one-knows-for-sure/

    http://johnpilger.com/videos/utopia

    https://vimeo.com/46137917

    http://www.businessinsider.com/gods-bankers-financial-scandals-at-the-vatican-2015-2

    https://archive.org/stream/WarIsARacket/WarIsARacket_djvu.txt

    http://www.salon.com/2015/11/18/this_is_why_they_hate_us_the_real_american_history_neither_ted_cruz_nor_the_new_york_times_will_tell_you/

    http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/zinncol1.html

  • No wonder why so many people are abandoning religion and the idea of a deity altogether…soon they will say that Melania is preggers from the Holy Spirit

  • I am deeply offended by your comment, I am a true Pastafarian, and My Lord and Master would never do such a thing

  • The indwelling holy spirit’s contempt for truth is shining forth through you… oh wait the holy spirit is known as the spirit of truth, well done thou good and faithfull servant. your journey to the dark side is complete

  • I was as serious as a heart attack. And then, after experiencing many failures of the faith, I gradually learned that it was all a sham from the get-go.

  • Franky boy should try ‘following’ Christ by exposing evil, instead of worshiping him, and using him to support satanic trash …and for his own selfish benefit.

    Its just more delusional bs while ‘christian’ leadership is allied in a death clinch with the Kings of headchoppin suicidal terroists in a slow genocide, feverishly destroying the middle east for dominance and control of the multi-$Trillion global gas/oil market while feeding us intentional deception about ‘fighting terrorism’…

    Christ, all the disciples and prophets werea killed by delusional preachers and greedy politicians for exposing them and breaking their ‘laws’. Its cover to cover Christianity 101 and ‘christians’ don’t have a clue. NONE! They should start following Jesus instead of worshiping him while drowning in pharaseeical hair-splittin ‘law’.

    Like those before us…
    Isaiah 1:23 Your leaders are rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loves gifts, and follow after rewards: they deny justice to the fatherless, neither does the plight of the widow come to them. Isa 56:11 …they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter (district). Rom 16:18 …they serve their own belly; and by GOOD words and FAIR speeches deceive the minds of the simple. Jer 9:5 …they exhaust themselves in greed. Their habitation is in the midst of deceit… Prov 22:16 they oppress the poor to increase their riches, and they give to the rich… Psa 26:10 In whose hands is mischief, and their right hand (priority) is full of bribes. Psa 5:9 They flatter with their tongue. There is no faithfulness in their mouth; their inward part is truly wicked; their throat is an open tomb. Psa 12:2 They speak vanity every one with his neighbor: with flattering lips and with a double heart do they speak. Amos 5:7 They turn justice to bitterness, and neglect whats right… 5:12 they afflict the just, they take a bribe, and they turn aside the poor from whats right. 2 Peter 2:18 they speak great swelling words of pride, they manipulate using the desires of the people, through much wantonness… 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption… Isa 59:14 judgment is turned away backward, and justice stands far off: for truth is fallen. 1Tim 6:5 Perverse men of corrupt minds, destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness… 2 Tim 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools. 2 Peter 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; 2:14 Having eyes full of adultery, and cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: a mind they have exercised with greedy practices; cursed men. Ezekiel 33:31 …they come to you as the people come …they hear your words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they show much love, but their heart goes after their greed.
    Jeremiah 9:3 they bend their tongues like their bow for lies: but they are not valiant for the truth; they proceed from evil to evil, and they dont know Good …they deceive every one, and will not speak the truth: they have taught their tongue to speak lies, and exhaust themselves in greed. Their habitation is in the midst of deceit; because of deceit they refuse to know Good …their tongue is as an arrow shot out; it speaks deceit: he speaks peaceably to neighbors, but in his mind he lays their wait.

    There’s tons more. Its cover to cover Christianity 101.

    And here’s some modern truths…
    While the so-called ‘church’ wallows in delusion, their ‘christian’ congress, in this ‘christian nation’ is $20 TRILLION in debt and climbing, budgetless, full of adultery and fornication, ‘legally’ functioning in collusion, drowning in ‘legalized’ corruption, their foundation is Betrayal, savagely rapin the public treasury writing contracts to friends and family …their wives, daughters and girl friends secretly getting abortions, eating birth control like candy …heavily ‘invested’ in the poisoning of the planet, recently ‘legalizing’ the pumping of fracking waste directly into the Gulf of Mexico! …sitting on the committees intentionally writing the laws sending jobs abroad, quietly investing in them as they go! ..’legalized’ tax evasion for the rich while the teachers, cops, shipyard workers and nurses pay the bills, neglecting society, ravaging the planet while the duped cops and soldiers run around cleaning up their wickedness …institutionalized deception and manipulation claiming speech is now money, bribery is lobbying, big businesses they whor with are people, 501C4 is tax-deductible social welfare! even calling it ‘Dark Money’ …on and on, its modern day Sorcery.

    They’ve ‘legalized’ the very things Christianity considers evil – porn, alcohol, abortion, drugs, prostitution, bribery(lobbying), televised filth and depravity, violence(MMA), barrooms and strip clubs on every corner, etc …deviously betrayed us on the Single Payer Plan receiving $2Billion from demonically greedy BigPharma and HealthCare since 2009 …in a treacherous death clinch with the Grand Dragons of head-choppin suicidal terrorists, giving them F-16s, M1Abrams, state of the art bases and technology, drones, logistics, Sops helping them overthrow another tyrant in Syria to install a Qatari pipeline from the largest methane reserves in the world underneath the Persian Gulf to Europe …’legally’ funding, arming and training suicidal terrorists militias Al-Qaida, Nusra and others with ‘tax-payer’ money “fighting terrorism”, in a slow middle east genocide for dominance and control of global natural gas/oil markets …saturated in the blood of millions of innocents, creating enemies by the tens of millions, who are now running around trying to kill us …bullying China’s extraction of crystalized methane in the South China Sea, encompassing Russia with bases and armament cutting their Ukrainian economic umbilical cord… They’ve been overthrowing South American governments (some 2and3 times) and upheaving Africa for the past century. Our CIA specializes in overthrowing governments that won’t cooperate in their corporate hustle, uh ‘Capitalism”. They’ve installed some of the most vicious tyrants the planet has ever seen …such sophistication in creating millions of refugees, widows and orphans …the varieties of anguish, misery, despair, death and destruction …the magnitude of treachery and betrayal of humanity, legalized and sanctioned by a ‘Christian Congress’. Not only ‘legalized, but invested and promoted! It makes the Four Horsemen metaphor child’s play. ‘Satan’ would blush. They’re ‘legally’ getting rich from it all for God’s sake!

    ‘Christian’ politicians, preachers and their duped, babbling supporters are knowingly or unknowingly the antichrists that their Bible speaks of. Those in place of Christ, claiming or representing Christ while intentionally confusing, deluding, deceiving, manipulating, exploiting…betraying and working evil on the world …not some fantasized, comic-book-like, delusional bs about a magic man giving everyone a 666 while blowing up tanks with lightning bolts coming from his fingertips. They prey on the ignorant and simple minded, intentionally using faith and God for political/monetary gain, which is abominable, blasphemous and satanic! I won’t even go into the Catholic church being rife in homosexuality, chronic pedophilia, mafia money laundering, etc.

    They are about as ‘spirit led’ as trump’s pe nis – about as inquisitive as a hammer. They’ve regressed to a paranoid Religion, a delusional cult fantasizing in primitive, dreamy, hair-splitting, ‘theological’ bs, detached from truth/God, drivin by fear and hate, motivated by rhetoric and propaganda. The average one would support a filthy rich, tax-dodging, “two” Corinthians, puzzy grabbin, blasphemous sexual predator – a real anti-christ who says “I don’t need much forgiveness b/c I don’t make mistakes”, while their bible explicitly describes him and their eventual following! The spiritually dead priests and preachers supporting him share his characteristics of sexual prowess and greed of money.

    And they will be mindlessly worshiping and glorifying him soon, when a do-nothing congress finally writes an infrastructure bill creating millions of ‘jobs’ that they callously refused to do when their “Obama the antichrist sharia law undercover moo’slum mole is gonna take our guns and destroy our country and take our wealth to Kenya” – intentional lies, slander, mockery, condemnation, ridicule, deception, manipulation, distraction – exploitation and betrayal started.

    And while these spiritually dead, self righteous pharisees gleefully worship him, they will continue exploiting God as their global destruction and genocidal horror for wealth continues… “destroys wonderfully with peace”.

    John 7:7 The world hates me because I expose it, that the works thereof are evil.

    Ephesians 5:11 Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.

    1 Timothy 5:20 those elders who are sinning you are to expose before everyone, so that the others may take warning.

    Prov 8:13 The fear of the lord is to hate evil…

    Psalms 97:10 You that love the lord, hate evil…

    Amos 5:15 Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish justice: it may be that God will be gracious to you.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKV1sTw8zOc

    https://www.thenation.com/article/how-many-missions-has-the-us-military-carried-out-in-africa-no-one-knows-for-sure/

    http://johnpilger.com/videos/utopia

    https://vimeo.com/46137917

    http://www.businessinsider.com/gods-bankers-financial-scandals-at-the-vatican-2015-2

    https://archive.org/stream/WarIsARacket/WarIsARacket_djvu.txt

    http://www.salon.com/2015/11/18/this_is_why_they_hate_us_the_real_american_history_neither_ted_cruz_nor_the_new_york_times_will_tell_you/

    http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/zinncol1.html

  • So, instead of waiting to see what Christ had in mind for you, you had a list made up for Him, and He didn’t comply, eh?

  • Oh pleze. You communistas have clearly LOST whatever was left of your minds.

    (But don’t worry, TRUMP will help you get your marbles back !!! )

  • He will, but only after you sue him and he makes a deal wherein you give him all of your marbles first.

  • God may have chosen a small man to be the king of a small kingdom. God didn’t hand David the nuclear codes.
    “Time will tell if 2Rump has been chosen by god.” And how will you know? Weill god tell you, or will be be in yet another unwinnable war while americans and inconsequential brown people die.
    “I do remember Trump in a video recently giving a public apology. ”
    you probably forgot where he said he doesn’t require forgiveness because he never sins or does anything wrong.

  • Time will tell if Donald Trump has been chosen by God.”

    Speaking of time . . . For thousands of years people have believed that your god exists, and yet, during all that time no legitimate evidence has been uncovered that comes close to proving his existence. So, if some people conclude that Trump “has been chosen by God,” rational people will know that the conclusion is either a delusion or an outright fraud.

  • Yes. That’s the list that was made from parts of the Bible and what pastors and preachers had said.

  • Still, you expected Him to do what you wanted Him to. instead of waiting on Him – you reject Him.

  • Graham didn’t give Trump a pass, read the article again, but then Bill Clinton shouldn’t get one either. Who would want an adulterer, rapist, liar in the White House again, even as the first husband? What a joke that would be!

  • I FOUND THIS ON THE INTERNET OVER A YEAR AGO,

    A Prophetic Message about Donald Trump
    It’s not about who we want as president, it’s who God wants as president.
    One of the things the church has grieved about, is Donald trump calls
    people names. They don’t like that. But can I tell you something?
    Jesus called people names. Jesus called the Jewish leaders a pack of
    vipers. So get over the name calling. In 2011, 5 years ago. This
    Christian, Mark Taylor, Firefighter, heard the voice of God. The
    spirit of God says , I have Chosen this man, Donald John Trump for
    such a time as this. For as Benjamin Netanyahu is to Israel, so shall
    this man be to the United States of America!
    For I will use this man to bring honor, respect and restoration to
    America. America will be respected once again and the most powerful and prosperous nation on earth. The Spirit of God says, the enemy will shake and fear this man I have anointed. It will be like a shot heard around the world. The
    enemy will say, what shall we do now? We
    have been robbing America for decades. It stops now, I will use this
    man to reap the harvest that the United States has sown for and
    plunder the enemy what he has stolen,

    and return it 7 fold back to the United States. The
    enemy will say Israel, Israel what about Israel? For Israel will be
    protected by America once again. The spirit says yes. America will
    once again be hand in hand with Israel. And the two shall be as one.
    Israel will flourish like never before. The
    spirit of God says, I will protect America and Israel, for this
    president will be a man of his word, and when he speaks the world
    will listen and know there is something greater in him than all the
    others before him. And the enemy will fear this, for this man will be
    fearless. It will also be a spiritual harvest for America. The
    spirit of God says, in this election they will spend hundreds of
    millions to try to keep him out. It will be like wasted money.
    They will not succeed, for this election will be a clean sweep for the man
    I have chosen. The enemy will say lies about this man, but it will
    not affect him. I will protect this man. Even the mainstream media
    will be captivated by this man and the abilities I have gifted him
    with. They will even begin to agree with him, says the spirit of God.

  • He does “make bones” He (Franklin Graham) will tell you only Allmighty God knows who is going to heaven to be with God, and who will not not it to heaven. “There shall be weeping and gnashing of
    teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the
    prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.”

  • I have Chosen this man, Donald John Trump for
    such a time as this. For as Benjamin Netanyahu is to Israel, so shall
    this man be to the United States of America!
    For I will use this man to bring honor, respect and restoration to
    America.
    America will be respected once again and the most powerful and
    prosperous nation on earth. The Spirit of God says, the enemy will shake
    and fear this man I have anointed. It will be like a shot heard around
    the world. The
    enemy will say, what shall we do now? We
    have been robbing America for decades. It stops now, I will use this
    man to reap the harvest that the United States has sown for and
    plunder the enemy what he has stolen,

    and return it 7 fold back to the United States. The
    enemy will say Israel, Israel what about Israel? For Israel will be
    protected by America once again. The spirit says yes. America will
    once again be hand in hand with Israel. And the two shall be as one.
    Israel will flourish like never before. The
    spirit of God says, I will protect America and Israel, for this
    president will be a man of his word, and when he speaks the world
    will listen and know there is something greater in him than all the
    others before him. And the enemy will fear this, for this man will be
    fearless. It will also be a spiritual harvest for America. The
    spirit of God says, in this election they will spend hundreds of
    millions to try to keep him out. It will be like wasted money.
    They will not succeed, for this election will be a clean sweep for the man
    I have chosen. The enemy will say lies about this man, but it will
    not affect him. I will protect this man. Even the mainstream media
    will be captivated by this man and the abilities I have gifted him
    with. They will even begin to agree with him, says the spirit of God.
    OK so the press will come around over the next few years.

  • 14 That man is a fool who says to himself, “There is no God!” Anyone who talks
    like that is warped and evil and cannot really be a good person at all.

    2 The Lord looks down from heaven on all mankind to see if there are any who are wise, who want to please God. 3 But no, all have strayed away; all are rotten with sin. Not one is good, not one! 4 They eat my people like bread and wouldn’t think of praying! Don’t they really know any better?

    5 Terror shall grip them, for God is with those who love him. 6 He is the refuge of the poor and humble when evildoers are oppressing them. 7 Oh,
    that the time of their rescue were already here, that God would come
    from Zion now to save his people. What gladness when the Lord has
    rescued Israel!

    2 Anyone who leads a blameless life and is truly sincere. 3 Anyone who refuses to slander others, does not listen to gossip, never harms his neighbor, 4 speaks
    out against sin, criticizes those committing it, commends the faithful
    followers of the Lord, keeps a promise even if it ruins him, 5 does
    not crush his debtors with high interest rates, and refuses to testify
    against the innocent despite the bribes offered him—such a man shall
    stand firm forever.

  • I’ve no obligation to wait for any deity. Your assertion that waiting is required is simply an excuse for non-existent actions.

  • And your assertion that He didn’t do anything on your timetable, is an excuse to dent Him

  • Your error consists of the fact that we are here to serve Christ. He is not here to do our will.

    Matthew 28:16-20English Standard Version (ESV)

    The Great Commission

    16 Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed them. 17 And when they saw him they worshiped him, but some doubted. 18 And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[a] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”

  • I’m here to serve beings whose existences aren’t disputed by anyone. You choose to serve an imaginary friend.

  • When we die, it’s game over. Delude yourself to the contrary and find comfort in the tale at will.

  • Flying Spaghetti Monster is real because I’ve seen Him heal the skinny and make them fat.

  • It’s clear from the article that Graham never supported Trump before the election, rejecting the Republican Party and becoming an independent, spoke volumes about where he stood. He never thought Trump would win and I’d a million he didn’t vote for him either! He has had to rethink his position on Trump because if he believes God placed him in office, who is he to second guess God?

  • The only thing that is clear from the article is that he came out in support of neither candidate before the election. He left the Republican party (but not because of Trump) before kicking off his money making tour.

    “If he believes God placed him in office, who is he to second guess God?” Um, anyone who believes that God should not be second guessed because Graham says God did something needs their head checked. Graham does not have a direct line to God (well, he wants you to think he does so you keep forking over your hard earned cash!).

  • Adulterer and liar in the white House? welcome to Trump.

    Rapist– well that has not yet been proved. But what was proved? Clinton,s foibles were consensual, not rape.

  • I don’t think that all of Pres. Clinton’s foibles were consensual. Juanita Broderick and Kathleen Willey certainly didn’t declare them so. Of course, neither Mr. Clinton, nor Mr. Trump are examples of what I would consider to be true gentlemen, if I may be allowed to use that rather dated term.

  • I agree with you, Edward, except that both Willey and Broderick are highly questionable in and of themselves. Willey changed her story a number of times, if I recall, which brought her entire story into question. Broderick? I’m too lazy to look her up again.

  • Oh, thanks. I’ve been waiting for someone to tell me to do that for years now. Thanks to your direction, I can now do that.?

  • Trump won the popular vote in 31 states. However, Hilary still had the greatest number of votes. To infer that God tipped the election of Trump by virtue of geography and an electoral college system is simply evidence of ‘Christian’ myth-making or wishful thinking. PS both Hilary and Pres. Obama were quite clear that Americans had to accept the electoral college vote regardless of popular vote.

    That this anomaly has been so rare between popular vote and electoral college vote suggests Trump, if he wants a second term, will have to be mindful of how he got there.

  • Let me clarify my statement–Graham make think that, but if he’s asking that others agree with him, then yes it may seem he thinks he has a direct line to God. But then again everyone does, it’s called prayer.

  • i’m not a christian and relegate all such religions to myth-making. so what happened happened. putting hope in any leader at this point to right the listing ship is as idiotic as belief in the talmudic myth. i choose to view washington d.c. as hollyworld, east and all corporate media as scoundrels, and the 2016 election

    served to highlight the craziness. i respect the nation-state israel as the only current attempt at evolving a nationalist collective and it serves as a template for the white nationalists who phantasize of a whitie nation. i wish the zionist all success.

  • Obama on November 9th from the Rose Garden – “What we can’t lose is the very thing that has been the cornerstone of our democratic experiment, the belief
    that democracy is good and democracy is right. Because we are now all
    rooting for his [Trump’s] success in uniting and leading the country. The peaceful transition of power is one of the hallmarks of our democracy and over the next few months we are going to show that to the world.”

    Hilary’s concession speech – “But I still believe in America and I always will. And if you do then we must accept this result and then look to the future. Donald Trump is going to be our president. We owe him an open mind and the chance to
    lead. Our constitutional democracy enshrines the peaceful transfer of
    power. And we don’t just respect that, we cherish it.”

  • He had to rethink his position on Trump because Trump won. He’s looking at Huck, Falwell Jr. and every Southern Baptist not named Russell Moore clamoring to the Trump White House like flies to sht. And there’s no way the heir to Billy Graham’s throne is going to be left out in the cold.

  • Netanyahu is bringing honor, respect and restoration to Israel? From your lips to God’s ears. Unfortunately, what he’s really bringing is a Pax Israeliana, and Trump is too clueless to know any better. Of course, Netanyahu might get indicted on corruption charges soon so who knows.

  • Were any of them citing someone other than James Dobson, who claimed Trump was born again, without giving any evidence, not even a statement from Trump himself? BTW, Dobson claimed the person to convert Trump was Paula White, someone you believe is ineligible to be a pastor because she has one of those things Trump likes to grab.

  • I did Google it, that’s why I’m giving you that information. If you know of something different I’d be glad to hear it from you.
    Did I misrepresent you? Does Paula White’s sex or gender make her ineligible in your view to be a pastor?

  • Don’t be embarrassed by genitalia, Sandi, they were given to us by God. What you should be embarrassed by is evangelical support for the man who said he liked to grab women by their genitals but used a word I’ll spare you from hearing lest you faint from the vapors.

  • Wow. I’ve never met anyone who never said something stupid before and regretted it. How do you do it?

  • And you haven’t answered my question. Is the person Dobson claimed to have converted Trump to born-again status ineligible to be a pastor because of her sex or gender?

  • 1 Timothy 2:12 – New International Version

    I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.” This is only in a church setting

  • …when Sandi makes her standard vacuous replies such as “lol” and “yawn”…

    That’s offensive to those who make vacuous comments — they’d not stoop to @sandiluckins ‘s level.

  • At last, the real evidence we’ve been waiting for to prove the existence of god, who turns out to be as much of a jerk as we expected.

  • An adulterer (he was married to Hillary) liar– “I never had sex with that woman.” And yes, an accused rapist, although his wife got him off. So yes, we’ve had worse in the White House, as well as a thief. Let’s see if Trump steals things out of the White House when he leaves office. What a short memory!

  • Whatever clinton’s personal morality– and I agree that I am not happy about it, either– he was a good president. Mrs. Clinton Stood by her husband; most people would consider that a sign of fidelity and a strong marriage. In other words, a virtue, not a fact that damns her.

    Well, people that don’t hate Mrs. CLinton.

    CLinton was ACCUSED of rape. He wasn’t even charged, let alone tried, let alone getting off because of some alleged crooked dealing
    Nefariously Put together by Mrs. CLinton. But nice try anyway.

    SO has trump been so accused, except that he has admitted to sexual assault in his persona of Grabby McPussy. HE has admitted to adultery and I’m pretty sure that covers any fornication he might have done. And let’s not forget his bankruptcies, the fraud of Trump University, the numerous lawsuits against him, his admission that he pays no taxes.

    CMopared to Trump. Morally, I think CLinton is practically a saint.

    And trump is going to make a crappy president, assuming he doesn’t get impeached.

  • At least I judge Clinton by the legacy he left–you’re judging Trump on a Presidentcy that hasn’t even happened yet! Infidelity doesn’t strike me as a strong marriage, and you conveniently forget Clinton was impeached! So am I glad he’s not back– you bet I am. I’m done, because we are getting off the subject.

  • No, you just don’t like inconvenient facts. You’ve already demonstrated that.

    Clinton was impeached, not convicted.

    Trump has demonstrated conclusively what he is about. 25 years of attacks on the clintons have produced precisely nothing, except snowflake whines about emails.

    My guess is that is that your fuhrer will be impeached within a year or two, AND convicted.

  • “Graham didn’t give Trump a pass”
    He says his god wanted Trump to win; from a religious morals standpoint, that is very much saying that Trump’s crimes and unethical actions should be considered irrelevant to any “good christian”.

  • Ben, here’s my take on Trump and impeachment:
    Trump is a tool of the GOP. He’s a bright, shiny object to keep the nation’s attention away from what the GOP is doing. They’ll keep him in place as long as he is useful & at this point all they have to do is threaten to impeach him to keep him from giving them too much trouble. But at some point his narcissism and sociopathy may well induce him to cross that line. When he does, we’ll have Pence instead. And that, I fear, will be the sign we are about to become an open theocracy.

  • God says, I will protect America and Israel, for this
    president Donald trump ,will be a man of his word, and when he speaks the world will listen and know there is something greater in him than all the
    others before him. And the enemy will fear this.

  • Putin? You’ve been brainwashed by the liberal MSM. HA
    Read the Wikileaks e mails of the Dems.
    The lies and corruption exposed for all to see by Wikileaks.
    Hillary did herself in, she was a weak candidate.
    That is why she lost.
    And the Dems stole it from Bernie.

  • That is exactly what he has been saying, and what the election said as well. Morals are only important to the fundamentalist crowd if they are the morals of the people they disapprove of. Thus, they swim in the swamp of moral relativism that they normally decry. I’d say it had something to do with logs and specks, but that would be too christian of me.

  • 2Samuel 15-19 – Absalom’s plan to take David’s Kingdom (both sides were divided). David surrounded himself with Godly Counsel. David was a man of prayer. David mourns the death of Absalom. David’s Kingdom is restored.
    2Samuel 22 – David’s Song (The Lord is my Fortress, Deliverer…)
    2Samuel 23:3 – David concluded his song by saying “The Rock of Israel spoke to me…
    ‘He that rules over men must be JUST, ruling in the Fear of God.’ “

  • Lord Jesus, I pray for Etranger; climb inside his soul and heal all his emotional wounds and trauma. May he come to know You intimately; may he have a life-changing encounter with You. May Etranger come to a place where he can forgive and bless those who wounded him. I pray you will restore Etranger and launch him out into ministry to help others get healed as You, King Jesus, have healed Etranger.
    In Jesus’ Name I pray! Amen!

  • Lord Jesus, I pray that you grant Wink some common sense and good reading comprehension skills. Amen!

  • You concluded that from my comment?! Are you Under graham’s spell as well and can’t think for yourself or see truth?

  • They think the holy spirit is giving them insight into your “tortured” mind, but clearly they have a confirmation bias that allows them to make claims of secret knowledge without even the slightest pang to their conscience.

    The holy spirit, providing cover for the intellectually dishonest since the inception of the christian death cult.

  • Trump is a kleptocrat, he is already stealing from the people with the repeal of obama care, the planned privatisation of Medicare, executive order on Dot Frank (removing protection for investors and homeowners), tax breaks to the wealthy will increase the burden on ordinary workers, etc.Trump’s money’s foundation is prostitution, research how his grandfather and father ran brothels. Yuk who elect such a disgrace as president? The greed of the conservatives, the failure to care for the fellow man will devour them. There are no Christians in America, they have no idea what God prescribe in his word! Oh America what rath have you brought on yourselves. Keep praying!

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