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Mormons miss the point of #MeToo by focusing on modest gowns at Golden Globes

Gal Gadot, from left, Octavia Spencer, and Kristin Cavallari arrive at the 75th annual Golden Globe Awards at the Beverly Hilton Hotel on Jan. 7, 2018, in Beverly Hills, Calif. (Photos by Jordan Strauss/Invision/AP; caption amended by RNS)

(RNS) — Last night, history was made.

Women draped themselves in black to protest the culture of sexual harassment that has long defined Hollywood. Women and men spoke out to negate the culture of silence that has allowed sexual harassment to continue unchallenged.

And women also kicked ass in winning awards for their writing, acting and lifetime achievements.

And this morning, LDS Living magazine* responded by posting a roundup of which gowns at the Golden Globes could be safely considered Mormon-approved. Here is a screenshot from the story:

 

 

OK, let’s just parse that opening sentence. “This year’s Golden Globes saw an unprecedented number of celebrities sporting modest dresses.”

You think? Did it occur to anyone working on this story that there was a reason for that?

Celebrities were “sporting modest dresses” as a form of protest. The fact that they were almost all wearing black — which is not even mentioned in the LDS Living roundup — could be regarded as a clue. Because they’re sick of women’s bodies being objectified, judged and treated as property. Because #MeToo is true of too many women.

So Mormons respond by dishing out more of the same, objectifying and judging women’s bodies and perpetuating the lie that women exist for purposes of ornamentation.

As if critiquing women’s attire is a Mormon right. As if we are divinely appointed to praise women whose fashion choices conform with our own narrow and culturally conditioned standards.

These were not “stunning, modest dresses from the red carpet.” They were intentionally somber dresses that were selected to make a point — a point that LDS Living could not have been thicker about missing.

Listen, instead, to what The New York Times had to say about the night’s funereal aesthetic:

The Globes were draped in black, quite literally, with actresses and some actors vowing to use their attire to make a statement about sexual harassment in Hollywood and other spheres. Winners were expected to use their moments of glory to rail against the systemic sexism and silence that allowed the behavior of men like Mr. Weinstein, James Toback, Louis C.K. and Mr. Spacey to fester for decades.

On the red carpet, eight actresses walked hand in hand with activists who focus on sexual harassment and gender inequality.

So here’s a challenge for LDS Living. How about next year, we focus on the praiseworthy things that women write, do and accomplish, rather than the clothes they choose or the bodies they have? How about we stop contributing to a culture of sexual harassment and start celebrating women as creators and subjects in their own right, rather than objects for our viewing pleasure?

Would that be so hard?

* Ed. Note: LDS Living magazine is not an official publication of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, although it is a division of Deseret Book. See here for more information about the publication.

Update 1/9/18: Late yesterday, LDS Living updated its website with this sentence: “Last night, women wore black dresses in solidarity with #TimesUp, a movement protesting sexual harassment, assault, or abuse in the workplace.” As a result, I have also updated this post by including a screen shot of how the LDS Living page appeared when I first wrote this, rather than the way it appears now, to avoid reader confusion about my complaint that the LDS Living article did not mention the reason why celebrities were wearing black. My original post had included only the text from LDS Living, but the magazine has since revised that copy without explaining that it had done so.

(Jana Riess is a Religion News Service columnist and the author of “Flunking Sainthood.” The views expressed in this opinion piece do not necessarily reflect those of RNS.)

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Jana Riess

Senior columnist Jana Riess is the author of many books, including "The Prayer Wheel" (2018) and "The Next Mormons: How Millennials Are Changing the LDS Church," which will be published by Oxford University Press in March 2019. She has a PhD in American religious history from Columbia University.

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  • While I agree with you in many respects, I think youre being a little harsh, Jana. LDS Living is a pretty “lite“ publication at best, and to expect any more from them would be unrealistic. They are providing their base with affirmation in this article. Trumpeting for womens equality would sound too much like dissent to their ears.
    And I have to be honest – some of those barely-there black gowns didnt look like protest or solitary to me, but more like the usual medium to show off your hot bod and keep your name in the news. It was almost like making a counter-statement to the “I want to be valued for my talent“ ethos, a throwback to the time when women were fully objectified.

  • Good point Skeni. This is a bit of an unnecessary attack, sounding like this week the author of this column has nothing better to write about, or, is deliberately trying to find an angle to align herself with the (important) cause – though she is remote. And it is a direct attack on women from another publication. A house that is divided…
    This week was an opportunity missed to comment on perhaps the excellent interview with Tom Christofferson conducted by John Dehlin. Wow.

  • I just read the synopsis of their discussion. 3 hours is a bit long, but hopefully Ill be able to take in the full interview at some point.

  • What LDS Living should have led off with followed by a best boob list would have addressed the issue directly: Boobs especially big ones attract men. Women know this and we therefore have them dressing in gowns that show off said boobs. Been that way forever . End of discussion.

  • It was my great pleasure to feature an interview with my friend Tom Christofferson when his book was published in the fall. If you would like to read it, you may find it here: http://religionnews.com/2017/10/05/gay-mormon-author-brother-of-an-apostle-builds-bridges-between-the-lds-and-lgbtq-communities/. I am so happy Tom’s important message is getting the attention it deserves from many sources. He is a wonderful person.

    However, today’s post was about WOMEN, and the fact that their work and contributions are routinely ignored. It is hardly an unnecessary attack. It is vital that when flagrant sexism persists in Mormon culture, we call it by what it is. Focusing wholly on women’s appearance is a damaging aspect of Mormon culture, and I will not apologize for being angry about the fact that it is still going on.

    LDS Living just added a sentence to its intro to try to address the fact that last night was about more than frippery: “Last night, women sported black dresses in solidarity with #TimesUp, showing their value stems from something deeper than surface-level looks or fashion.” It’s a very small start. Much better would be to delete the whole stupid gallery of gowns and focus on the facts about what women did to create films, win awards, and change the culture.

  • K, so first off, one Mormon author is not “Mormons.” Geez. Think before you hit publish. Also, bashing anyone for finding beauty in modesty is a bit harsh and should we say “extremely judgie.”

  • Sounds like the LDS Living article touched a nerve! I missed the Golden Globes, but I understand your feelings about how LDS Living can be simplistic and obtuse. Not a lot of depth in that pool sometimes. I also am irritated about the messages given to young people by both our broader American pop culture and Utah/Idaho LDS culture. I do want to point out that boys receive the wrong signals as well as girls, which adds to the confusion. And I absolutely agree that we need more information about the achievements of women in the arts and in all walks of life. Just want to add I’ve been a teacher for almost 30 years in a culturally and religiously diverse place, and a devout Mormon all that time, and I’m often taken aback by the messages taught to kids by their parents (who sometimes are themselves lost souls).

  • Honestly? The initial article was an adventure in missing the point. And given that the entire reason for uniform black dress was to demonstrate solidarity with a women’s empowerment movement, leaving out that fact is plenty odd. Its like writing an entire story about the million women who showed up in pink hats last year on January 20 in Washington, DC and choosing to write about the importance of covering one’s head to prevent chills. Its beside the point. Enough to make you wonder why.

  • To be fair, LDS Living does this same sort of article with every awards show every year (or at least it seems like it). I also wish they would just stop doing these “modest-gowns-at-award-shows” pieces. I wish they were more like me, and just ignored the awards shows altogether.

  • Well said, Jana. “So here’s a challenge for LDS Living. How about next year, we focus on the praiseworthy things that women write, do and accomplish, rather than the clothes they choose or the bodies they have? How about we stop contributing to a culture of sexual harassment and start celebrating women as creators and subjects in their own right, rather than objects for our viewing pleasure?”

  • Jana, it has been pointed out in other articles about last night’s Golden Globes awards that men did not “speak out to negate the culture of silence that has allowed sexual harassment to continue unchallenged.” I don’t recall one man who won an award mentioning this in their acceptance speech.

    Seth Meyers touched the topic in his opening monologue by making jokes about the topic, especially about H Weinstein and K Spacey. He started his monologue by addressing the “Ladies and remaning Gentlemen.”

  • I really could only laugh at this article from the very beginning.

    The writer states, “You think? Did it occur to anyone working on this story that there was a reason for that?

    Celebrities were “sporting modest dresses” as a form of protest. The fact that they were almost all wearing black — which is not even mentioned in the LDS Living roundup — could be regarded as a clue.”

    But she clearly didn’t actually read the article from LDS Living because right at the very beginning it reads, “This year’s Golden Globes saw an uncommon number of celebrities sporting modest dresses. Last night, women wore black dresses in solidarity with #TimesUp, a movement protesting sexual harassment, assault, or abuse in the workplace.”

    So ummm.. yeah.. maybe before bashing a simple article you should actually read it.

    The LDS Living author clearly understood the point of last night’s dresses, didn’t objectify women because of what they were wearing.. or keeping covered, and shared a few photos of dresses to show girls of LDS standards that you can wear a beautiful gown without showing off your body.

    Before jumping on this bandwagon, everyone really should read the short article on LDS Living.
    http://www.ldsliving.com/Modest-Dresses-from-the-2018-Golden-Globes/s/87421?page=1#story-content

  • To say they were being “praised” for their dresses is a bit much. The author of LDS Living was pointing out to the young female readers of LDS culture that you can still be beautiful and cover up. There’s no praising and no objectifying.

    In today’s society, it’s hard for girls with modesty standards to find cute clothing that doesn’t show off their butt, boobs, or stomach and famous people everywhere are wearing those clothes. It was a little atricle to show those young women that it can be done and done beautifully.

    To get so upset over that article is showing one’s ignorance of the LDS culture. And if you read both articles, it’s pretty clear that this one is causing way more of a rift and misunderstanding of last night than the other one.

  • How pathetic. Same old Hollywood, filled with fools who believe their so-called “causes” are all that matter. The rest of the citizens of our world have far more important matters to address. Here’s a dose of reality for you who live in (or support) “tinseltown;” your industry is so biased and off-kilter from what real Americans deal with day to day, that it’s impossible for common sense people like me to even care about anything you have to say.

  • The magazine added a sentence about #TimesUp after this post was published. It is a small step toward progress, but it was not in LDS Living’s original coverage.

  • The magazine added a sentence about #TimesUp after this post was
    published. It is a small step toward progress, but it was not in LDS
    Living’s original coverage. I have revised this post to include a screen shot of LDS Living’s original text.

  • LDS Living, as ClintonKing said, does an article about modest gowns after every award show. The reason for this, at least in my opinion, is to show that modesty is beautiful. When most of the stylish clothing is revealing (and contributes to the objectification of women’s bodies, btw), it can be frustrating for women who want to be stylish, but also want to be modest at the same time. Articles about modest clothing can be very encouraging for many women. So, I think LDS Living just phoned this one in, treating it like all of the articles about this topic that they have done for years on end. That being said, they probably should have addressed the overarching theme of the evening.

  • In Oprah’s speech she mentioned her mother, (a domestic worker) and the many women like her today, who have difficulty objecting to poor treatment because they have “bills to pay, mouths to feed, dreams to pursue.” It reminded me of the front page expose in the NYTimes of women at a Ford plant in Indiana who were subject to years of abuse and didn’t feel they had recourse or they would lose their jobs.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/12/19/us/ford-chicago-sexual-harassment.html?_r=0

    And a top winning film on Sunday night (“Three Billboards”) is about a working class woman who takes on her small town police force who won’t pursue her daughter’s rapist. I wouldn’t say that Hollywood was claiming that harassment of women is all that matters, but they are telling stories and drawing attention to a problem that affects women who don’t live in “tinseltown.”

  • THE USA is becoming “great and clean again” because of the BRAVERY, BEAUTY, UNITY, and MORAL COURAGE of U.S. WOMEN, as demonstrated in the Golden Globes. My wife and I, here in South America, totally LOVE and SUPPORT the GREAT WOMEN of the USA. YOU are a BEACON to the WORLD!!! YOU ARE CHANGING THE WORLD!! Someday, all women and children, everywhere, will be safe, respected, and protected because of you. WE LOVE OPRAH, SHE TOOK OUR BREATH AWAY!! GOD BLESS AMERICA and AMERICAN WOMEN!!

  • Why does everyone think that sexual harassment is always against women? That is the laughable issue in all of this.

  • Even if they should have mentioned it from the beginning, you completely missed the point of their article. Nowhere in it did they objectify women because of their bodies. You also clearly ignored the fact that they do it after most award shows. And you obviously don’t understand an LDS view on modesty because they teach modesty, in behavior, speech, dress, etc. so they aren’t objectified. The world already objectifies women based on what they wear. They already get looked over for other accomplishments. The LDS teach modesty so that their young women can be met with praise for accomplishments “rather than objects for our viewing pleasure.”

  • Wow!!! Religion news or the eviceration of religious women? I was forwarded this lovely article https://www.themodestrunway.com the author is a modern orthodox Jewish woman. Are you going to go after all women of the Jewish faith too or is this a more personal thing? I think you may have missed the point those lovely ladies who showed up on the runway in beautiful black dresses were trying to make. It is only in our solidarity as women of all faiths, beliefs, race, sexuality or age, that we are strong and are able to make changes! I hope you will rethink your attacks on women of faith and join in solidarity as we all ,in our own way, try to make this world a little better!

  • At one point in your meandering way to try to make sense of your rambling you say: “Because they’re sick of women’s bodies being objectified, judged and treated as property”. I am sure that in the past, they wore all those very immodest dresses that objectified, judged and treated their own bodies as property because they had a gun pointed at them, they were objectified against their will, and it was because of the power of men that they wore them. Gee, and here I was thinking that they were showing how strong and independent they were by being proud of their bodies and showing them off to the world.

    Then you say that “MormonS respond by dishing out more of the same, objectifying and judging women’s bodies and perpetuating the lie that women exist for purposes of ornamentation.” First of, it’s Mormon, singular. Second, They are saying that wearing modest dresses is a good thing, which is true, and three, the casting couch has existed in Hollywood since its inception, this is nothing new, EVERYONE knew it, EVERYONE knows it, and NO ONE said anything about it. Now they are courageous, because they wear expensive black dresses to tell the world #metoo? or #timesup? You want to equate them wearing expensive black dresses on a red carpet to stroke their huge egos to the plight of the average american woman, and so attack a whole group because one of its writers published an innocuous article about modesty? Yeah, I guess telling girls to dress modestly because that is what is beautiful and praiseworthy, it’s objectifying women. I guess telling them that they can wear dresses like this, make those stars a role model for them, telling them how those stars cleaned up their act, at least for one night, and are MORE powerful by not objectifying their bodies, is objectifying women. But what do I know, I am a man who identifies as a man and because of that, I don’t understand women and are mentally unstable.

  • Not only did LDS Living miss the point but you did as well Clinton. This award show was different because of what the women wore.

  • Sad to read the LDS article because I get tired of members being so out of touch and pretending they are the spiritual ones.

  • “The casting couch” is not exclusive to show business. Women have been pressured for sex, or expected to put up with harassment in order to get or keep a job in every industry. And it doesn’t matter what they wear, either. As a professional woman in my twenties, working in a major city’s financial district, I dressed extremely conservatively. I was told “if you dress like a professional woman, and act very seriously at work, you will be spared”. This is simply false. Leers, groping, come-ons, and general abuse are a pervasive part of the culture, and it has to stop. I’m fifty-four years old now, and last month I was cat-called by some man on the street as I was walking the one block to my car after work. This was in a “high-end”, “safe” neighborhood. I was dressed head to toe, conservatively, nothing even remotely revealing or tight, and the only skin showing was my face and hands. What did I do wrong? I’ll tell you what – absolutely nothing. Except being a woman. I’m enraged and sickened by it. Women, and the decent men who support them, have had enough.

  • I agree with everything you just said -well, almost everything- so I don’t know what your point is because it does not go against anything I said. I know the casting couch is not exclusive to Hollywood and that in the past it was used everywhere, BUT, if you are saying that it was used as extensively everywhere else as it was used in Hollywood, you are being less than forthcoming here. And everyone knew it, everyone, and no one did anything about it until Rose McGowan blew the lid off it, the same Rose McGowan that says that what they did last night was a band aid to make them feel better, don’t believe me, believe her.

    The part that I disagree with you on, is the cat calling. I have been cat called, and I am not a woman, so it’s not just because you are a woman, it’s because a dirtbag of a human being decided to act like a dirtbag and cat call you. How you respond to it though, makes all the difference. Do you see yourself as a victim and powerless, or do you see yourself and powerful and in charge and just take it for what it is, a scumbag acting like a scumbag.

    I am sorry for your bad experiences and I wish you nothing but the best in the future.

  • “BUT, if you are saying that it was used as extensively everywhere else
    as it was used in Hollywood, you are being less than forthcoming here.” We don’t have any reliable stats. You don’t know, and I don’t know, which industry or industries are the worst. Hollywood, by its very nature, is highly visible. To single out show business does a disservice to women in every other industry. Sure, we all know famous names. We don’t know the names of managers or owners of the envelope factories. But the abuse is the same, and no less terrible, wherever it may occur.

    Oh, and the guy? I reported him to the moving company he appeared to be working for – standing outside of the company truck, in a company shirt. But the fact that I took action (the company was very responsive and behaved correctly) does nothing to alter the fact that I was startled, and alarmed, walking uphill on an quiet, dark city block just to get to my car after a long work day. I had to perform the instant calculation – was this just a catcall? Or was he about to force me into a dark doorway? How close was I to my car at this second? Could I outrun him? Going steeply uphill? (I’m 54. I’m not as fast as I used to be.) My pepper spray was in my pocket. Could I get to it fast enough to deter him? I do not have the luxury of just dismissing him as “a scumbag”. I have to instantly think about perhaps I’m about to get raped, and what I can do about it, if anything. So no, it’s not just some scumbag catcalling.

  • Well, I appreciate that the LDS Living Article embraced it, regardless of it being in a different view. Does it matter? Golly! I think it was a great way of supporting modesty. Sounded great to me how things were worded. You know, I still can’t wrap my head around how this article is something to be concerned of and critic, when there’s so much that’s in need of service and attending to. I’d just get over yourself if I were you, cause it’s NOT BAD AT ALL!!!!! Btw, those women look great in what they’re wearing. Stunning I should say! So much is being said much worse than this and you “dish” out this article because it’s an “LDS” Article. God be with you, God speed the right! Have a blessed one!

  • Someone’s got her panties twisted. I loathe how much credence Riess gets on things Mormon. Wolf in sheep’s clothing. Oh, but I guess that would be a fashion commentary and missing the point, right, Jana?

  • Based on the excerpt from the LDS story posted here, I’m not sure what the outrage expressed above is about. Nothing in the excerpt was judging “women’s bodies” (the article appears to be judging their attire) and the excerpt doesn’t say that women exist for ornamentation. It also doesn’t say anything about “divine” appointment. Everyone has the “right” to critique attire; it’s a free country (whether it’s appropriate is another matter).

    If Ms. Riess wants to criticize the entire genre of fashion reporting and all the commenting on the clothing that actresses wear to awards shows, her critique here might make sense. It’s certainly shallow to spend time commenting and judging the clothes other people wear. But this happens the day after every single awards show. Tons of media outlets do it, and they all use “narrow and culturally conditioned standards.” Why bring out the wrath on some obscure LDS news source rather than, for example, major news outlets that are consistently commenting on awards show fashion?

  • Great point! The message being sent by immodest attire on celebrities is that to get other people’s attention and be praised as sexy and beautiful you have to show as much skin as possible. The magazine seems to be saying that modesty is beautiful too.

  • “The worst sinners, according to Jesus, are not the harlots and publicans, but the religious leaders with their insistence on proper dress and grooming, their careful observance of all the rules, their precious concern for status symbols, their strict legality, their pious patriotism…the haircut becomes the test of virtue in a world where Satan deceives and rules by appearances.” Hugh Nibley Approaching Zion Vol 9

  • The LDS is not have an “Me Too” moment. The LDS has been rejecting sexual amorality for 200 plus years, and this with Las Vegas a few hours drive south from St. George.

  • Hi Ron,
    Here are my thoughts. Immodesty in all sorts of areas, not just clothing choices, sends a message about what an individual thinks is important. A Christian driving a $80,000 car or wearing a $1000 watch sends a message about material goods. A Christian wearing immodest attire sends a message about physical beauty. A Christian doing an elaborate, self-congratulatory celebration after success on the athletic field sends a message about worldly achievement.

    Jesus was critiquing the immodest attitudes of the religious leaders – they were seeking to draw attention to themselves through their supposedly holy actions. He wasn’t critiquing the rules, but the leaders who were making such an immodest show of observing them.

  • Now for the nitty-gritty:

    From today’s newspaper-

    “Men are wild animals — I should know, I am one”

    “At the Golden Globe Award ceremony this past weekend, many of the celebrities dressed in black to protest the rampant sexual abuse of women. I applaud this effort to call attention to an often ignored travesty that has been with us for a long time. Women have pointed out that improper male behavior is not their fault, and they are obviously correct.

    Does this mean that men are essentially wild animals? Yes it does. I should know, since I am one of them. For millennia, women have learned to dress to attract men. They know that the male of the species possesses primitive sexual desires that are quite easily aroused. Even at the Golden Globe Awards, the protesting women wore many gowns that, although black, showed off bodily parts that catch the male eye. As I sat down to my breakfast newspaper, my attention was easily drawn to the pictures.

    Now, I have never knowingly abused or harassed any woman. Does this mean that I can be trusted? Of course not. Although past 70 in age, my glands still produce testosterone and I have to watch myself when around women. I dearly hope I continue to be successful in treating women respectfully, but I would like to ask them to please help me.

    Shouldn’t a woman be free to dress as she pleases and not be constrained by male failings? Well, wouldn’t this be nice!

    If you have ever traveled in bear country you will see warning signs about leaving food uncovered. Bears like food and do not respect humans’ property rights. If you make food available, they will act badly taking the food and threatening you if you stand in their way. Do any of us like this situation? Of course not. Why should I have to spend money on bear resistant containers just because I choose to picnic? Why should I be constrained because of a bunch of wild animals?

    Well, I am constrained because they are wild animals; that is just the way it is. Until some biologist finds a way to spread around some new bear genes that make the ursines more civilized, I will have to live with the reality.

    #MeToo: Moments from the movement
    For millennia, women have had to deal with men. Now humans are of course far more responsible for their actions than bears. We can learn, think and control ourselves in ways that animals cannot. But men are also biological beings and subject to powerful instinctive forces. Oh, I know that it is not politically correct to talk about gender differences, but until some biological or social scientist changes the situation, we must live with the reality. Alluringly dressed women will attract lustful feelings from the male animal. If you think about it, that is just why alluring clothing is designed.

    Does this mean that women should hide themselves in frumpy clothing? Yesterday, I ate in a small restaurant and sitting a few tables away was a young Muslim woman. She wore a loose fitting garment and a hijab. Her clothes were anything but frumpy. In fact, her dress was quite attractive. I did feel attraction, but it was not sexual. I felt that she looked like a nice and interesting person whom I would like to meet. Rather than feeling lust, I felt respect. I felt admiration for a person who had the confidence to relate to people as she truly was inside and not through cheap bodily display.

    I am not a Muslim. In fact, I am an Orthodox Jew. I live in a subculture in which women dress attractively but do not go for flashy externals. It encourages respect of women rather than treatment of them as objects. Are we Orthodox men perfect? Are we immune from hormonal forces? Well, we are taught never to trust ourselves until the day of our death. Won’t you women join with and help us?

    Andrew Goldfinger is a retired physicist; his email is [email protected].”

  • I usually miss the point of awards shows. Apologies. The sexual mistreatment of women by powerful men is a real and ongoing problem. For good or ill, I tend toward a Puritanical response. No man should ever give any woman even the slightest reason to be dissatisfied with his behavior toward her.

  • Hahahaha. Mormon’s completely tone deaf on the issue. So what else is new?

    “The magazine added a sentence about #TimesUp after this post was published. It is a small step toward progress, but it was not in LDS Living’s original coverage.” Even better! Priceless.

  • Jana, I’m pleased that LDS Living amended the article as I did understand what you were trying to do in your article but your tone felt condescending toward the female writer of the piece.

    When you spoke about Mormons “dishing out more of the same” it was really only that single female voice that was evidenced in the piece. I don’t think she deserved such a harsh attack. You agreed that it was an “attack” but “hardly unnecessary”. I don’t agree. It was perhaps an ignorant and superficial piece but its intention clearly wasn’t meant to cause offence nor harm but the opposite so it could have been dealt with by simple education and with less emotion and more balance. Your desired effect could have been brought about more powerfully.

    Given we are talking about women – this female writer probably felt frightened and singled out, especially given what an emotive topic this is. I appreciate the anger in this piece was due to the fact it is an emotive and important topic but I don’t think turning on other women nor being condescending (“would it be so hard?”) is the answer and that was what I took issue with.

    As for the Tom interview, it is good that you did that. John had three hours or so of fascinating material, parts of which I had hoped someone would pick up further though…

    Maybe a further piece on progressive Mormon women’s contributions would be well received.

  • Thank you for being honest… something our culture has an issue with. I am still, amazed by the comments of those who “try” to push back AND THEY DID NOT EVEN WATCH or they say they don’t care about Hollywood or their award shows. Wow!

    To those people I hope they allow “anti-Mormons” (of which I am NOT, I am an active temple recommend holding one, FYI) to critic and/or comment on Mormonism without ever watching a General Confrrrnve, reading the BOM, going to a local meeting, etc.

    Your thought provoking and frankly very truthful and honest perspective is what we need in our culture. Questions and frank honestly is of God.

    These, don’t EVER think critically, deep or thoughtful passive aggressive types… are becoming less and less in power by virtue of the rising generation.

    Keep up your OUTSTANDING blog and work thoughtful work, we need you! God bless!!

  • R u kidding me? The bubblers are actually commenting on Hollywood or weird? Isn’t that an invasion of sanctity? Modest? The photos you sported were hardly modest and if you smoke MARY-Jane I don’t think you need respect. It’s always something and actors or actresses are all acting. There is no truth in that.

  • My words … LDS women and men; I believe have issues with celibacy and fidelity issues are high. I’m LDS and strongly think that women on any stage is aggressive and will do about anything if the part pays more than a million. That includes giving into sexual advances or trying to create them if they think it works and the odds to get the job is a score. Seriously, this ploy for power over the industry because you feel women have been exploited is down right disgusting. I worked in the film and music industry, I had my dream job for a couple decades. Without sex, Hollywood does not exist and there is no glamour. Just stop talking about what goes on behind the scenes and you always get what you want – to the men and the women. It’s not just abuses of women, men are equally abused as well. There is no integrity when you work in the movies, it’s all pretend. Wake up guys 😘

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