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What my father would have said about Ilhan Omar

Rep.-elect Ilhan Omar, with House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of California, right, speaks about the party's legislative priorities when Democrats assume the majority in the 116th Congress in January, during a news conference at the Capitol in Washington, on Nov. 30, 2018. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

(RNS) — This week, I have been sitting shiva for my father, George Salkin.

Several people approached me and asked: “Was your father ‘religious’?”

No — certainly not in any ritual sense.

My father’s Judaism was all about memory — historical memory.

Back in the late 1960s and early 1970s, when I marched against the Viet Nam war, my father would caution me. True — he was also anti-war, even as much as he disliked the aesthetics of the movement.

But, on several occasions, he would say to me: “Be careful. Your radical friends might turn against Israel, and against the Jews.”

I laughed him off.

I shouldn’t have.

Dad — I am sorry.

You were right.

  • You were right, because it happened in Russia in the late nineteenth century.
  • You were right, because it happened after the Russian Revolution.
  • You were right, because it happened in the days of the New Left.

You are right, because, well, Rep. Ilhan Omar.

Several weeks ago, Rep. Omar criticized Israel and AIPAC. She said that the American Israel Public Affairs Committee has paid politicians to be pro-Israel.

“It’s all about the Benjamins baby,” she tweeted. As in hundred dollar bills.

Omar accused the Jews of buying support for Israel — and worse, of controlling Congress with their money.

It wasn’t the first time that she expressed her concerns about Israel in problematic tones. In 2012, she commented that “Israel has hypnotized the world.”

Now, most recently, she has said that pro-Israel activists were pushing “for allegiance to a foreign country” — a reprise of the ancient antisemitic trope of “dual loyalty.”

My father, of blessed memory, had a simple and even simplistic world view.

“Fool me once,” he would say, “shame on you. Fool me twice — shame on me.” Rep. Omar has apologized for her earlier remarks. But, she keeps making them. Apology not accepted.

You would say to my father: “There has been far too much attention to Rep. Omar’s statements. It is coming off as racist and Islamophobic.”

My father would have responded: “Hatred is hatred, and it doesn’t matter who says it.”

You would say to my father: “Well, what about all the Islamophobia that has targeted her?”

My father would have responded: “That anti-Muslim stuff is a pile of crap. Two wrongs don’t make a right.”

My father would have understood that you have to criticize Omar’s antisemitic themes, and you have to simultaneously criticize the anti-Muslim themes that have come to the fore.

You would say to my father: “Well, you see, implying that Jews have dual loyalty isn’t really antisemitic. You have to understand the perspective, and the context, and the nuances, and maybe there is some truth in it anyway. After all, AIPAC…”

My father would have responded: “Where the ______ would you have found that idea? I don’t get it. You use anti-black stereotypes; that’s bigotry. You use anti-gay slurs; that’s bigotry. You use any kind of bigoted ideas; you’re talking bigotry.

There are many things that my father understood very well.

But, there are several things my father would never have understood

  • He would never have understood how it is possible for Jews, and some of their leaders, to bend themselves into moral pretzels in order to stand with Rep. Omar.
  • He would never have understood how it is possible for his beloved Democratic party to fail to utterly reject this infestation.
  • He would never have understood how contemporary Anglophilia would manifest itself in Corbyn envy.

And, please — this has nothing to do with criticizing Israel, or its policies.

  • If you dislike the reality of Israel, that makes you neither anti-Israel nor antisemitic.

In fact, it could mean that you are Jewish. There are many aspects of contemporary Israeli life and policy — the lived reality of the Jewish state — that make me uncomfortable, and even crazy.

  • But, if you dislike the idea of Israel — if you believe that its creation was a mistake, some kind of primordial historical original sin; if you believe that Israel should not exist; if you believe that the world should dismantle Israel and send millions of Jews back into exile…
  • If you believe that the only country in the world that does not deserve to exist, the only country in the world whose flaws must condemn it both to perdition and the scrap heap of history, also happens to be the only Jewish state in the world…
  • If you derive a certain glee, a kind of intellectual sugar high from criticizing Israel, in a way that other countries fail to give you…

Yes, you are probably anti-Israel. At the very least, you are trafficking in antisemitic ideas and themes.

If that is true, then, please — do us all a favor.

Have the decency, the moral elegance, and frankly, the good taste not to tell the Jews what is or isn’t antisemitic.

As with others who suffer from dementia, towards the end, my father’s short term memory was shot.

But, his long-term memory — a memory that stretched back into history, even long before he was born — was intact.

Those who defend Rep. Omar are like a ten-year-old Macbook.

They need more memory.

About the author

Jeffrey Salkin

Rabbi Jeffrey K. Salkin is the spiritual leader of Temple Solel in Hollywood, Fla., and the author of numerous books on Jewish spirituality and ethics, published by Jewish Lights Publishing and Jewish Publication Society.

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  • Now can people see how far the left has gone? The dems just decided that they are going to do nothing about it.

    The left is not what people believe them to be. They have fallen off the cliff and now is the time to tell them.

  • Funny how the right wing’s love of Israel only applies to Israel’s own right wing.

    Omar has been saying what most Israelis and virtually all American Jews have been saying for over 20 years, a 2 state solution is the best resolution to the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians.

    Its very tough to take conservative philosemitism seriously when they also embrace white supremacy and its anti-semitism so openly and obviously.
    https://theweek.com/speedreads/827617/report-leaked-messages-reveal-white-nationalist-group-rallied-keep-gop-rep-steve-king-office

  • They loved Israel before Benjamin Netanyahu came into office.

    They loved Israel in December, 2016, when the United States – following Obama Administration policy, abstained from United Nations Security Council Resolution 2334, effectively allowing it to pass.

    They loved Israel in January, 2017, when the United States House of Representatives voted 342-80 to condemn the UN Resolution.

  • https://pantheon-live.religionnews.com/2019/01/02/jews-predictions-2019/

    January 2, 2019

    “Prediction: American Jews will increasingly find themselves to be politically homeless. I predict that most American Jews will continue their historic allegiance to the Democratic Party. They will say that Israel is strong, that she can take care of herself — and that our first priorities will be the healing of the American soul.”

    That’s increasingly going to take strong stomachs.

  • Or, rather than Omar being a deliberate and repeat antisemite, perhaps the knowledge of hidden, dog whistle, antisemitism is sufficiently obscure that she’s not familiar enough with it to even be aware that her statements are problematic. I know that’s certainly the case for me. I am not exaggerating when I say that literally every single one of the statements you called out as being antisemitic seemed antisemitic to me, and I see no reason to assume that she’d be any more familiar with obscure and hidden antisemitic words and phrases than I am.

    For example:

    Now, most recently, she has said that pro-Israel activists were pushing “for allegiance to a foreign country” — a reprise of the ancient antisemitic trope of “dual loyalty.”

    From my point of view this is very strange, because she wasn’t talking about Jews at all in that statement.

    Certain right wing politicians, mostly Christian, have indeed been pushing for allegiance to a foreign country. 26 US states now require anyone seeking government employment, government contracts, or government assistance, to swear an oath that they will be supportive of Israel’s economy. That sounds like allegiance to, or loyalty to, or perhaps fealty to, a foreign country to me, and I’m unsure how else it’d even be possible to phrase it.

    Rep Omar did not say that Jews in America had dual loyalty. She wasn’t even talking about Jews, in that almost all the anti-BDS laws are promoted, passed, and enforced by Gentiles. My home state, Texas, has exactly zero Jewish state representatives, it passed an anti-BDS law mandating that Texans seeking government employment, contracts, or help must swear an oath pledging allegiance to Israel. The Christian governor signed it into law, and it is enforced and defended by a Christian state attorney general. How is it possibly antisemitic, or invoking the filthy lie of Jewish dual loyalty to accurately describe that law passed by Christians as mandating allegiance to a foreign country?

    If I may ask, could you either rewrite her problematic statements in a way that retains their meaning but is not antisemitic, or if you know of someone who has done so link to their work?

    Obviously minorities are under no obligation to educate others and I certainly don’t demand it of you, but this is so utterly baffling and confusing to me that I’d really like to see an example of what would be Omar’s statements properly expressed because I think it would be really helpful and perhaps help others avoid inadvertent antisemitism. I’ll confess that at this point I’m concerned that anything I write that is critical of Israel’s government or the any efforts on behalf of Israel’s government in US politics will be seen as antisemitic and I certainly don’t want to offend anyone or use antisemitic language.

  • You’d rather American Jews supported a political party that “supports” Israel only in that it views Israel as a sort of Bible theme park and because they believe that Israel must exist as a precondition for Jesus coming back, and as one of his first acts on returning, destroying Israel and killing all Jews?

    Obviously I can’t tell you how to vote or who to support, but if I were Jewish I’d be very leery of the “support” Republicans have for Israel. I still recall the woman in the “I STAND WITH ISRAEL” shirt screaming “Heil Hitler” at an Israeli man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4J5BBbcp60 There’s the “support” the Republicans have for Jews.

  • You’re apparently the only person in America who thinks she was not talking about Jews.

  • After this, unless the Democrats really let Ilhan Omar have it in clear uncertain terms, I’d be a lot more leery of Democratic support for Israel.

  • Very well said. I am appalled that it is even allowed for a government under the Constitution of the United States to demand the those employed by or contracted by the government must have a particular viewpoint toward Israel or any foreign country. Taking a position to boycott companies is something we do when we want them to stop supporting some politician or talking head we don’t like. Both sides do that. But we are required by our government to have a particular exemption to not use that same tactic when it comes to Israel? Doesn’t make sense.

    I want Israel to exist. I don’t boycott Israeli products or businesses. But I don’t necessarily think it is wrong for those who oppose the way in which the Israeli government is going about creating their nation state is right, good, or fair to the Palestinians people. Criticizing the Israeli government is not being anti-Semitic. Criticizing the settlements is not being anti-Semitic. Criticizing the bombing of Iran is not being anti-Semitic. Wanting there to be fair treatment of Palestinians is not being anti-Semitic. Boycotting Israeli products is not anti-Semitic – it is anti-particular tactics of the Israeli government.

  • I doubt it. I think anyone fairly and honestly reading that quote in context would see that it clearly was not discussing American Jews but rather the Christian Republicans who, you know, actually passed laws requiring that Americans swear allegiance to a foreign nation.

    But let me ask you, how would you rewrite her statement in such a way that kept the meaning but was not antisemitic? Is it specifically the word “allegiance” that you object to, or what?

  • Condolences to you and your family on your loss of your dad. May your memories of him bring you comfort.

  • OK, please define “have it”. Do you mean expelling her from the House? Taking her off all committees? Or something else?

    Also, I still haven’t gotten anyone willing to tell me how she could have said what she did without it being antisemitic. If I may ask the favor, could you rewrite her problematic statements in such a way that the meaning is retained but the language is no longer antisemitic? It’d be really useful going forward to have an example of what is acceptable on these topics, because they’re topics that really must be spoken about and I don’t want to do so in a way that’s antisemitic.

  • Democrats can support the existence of Israel while at the same time criticizing some of the actions Israel takes to form their state. For example, the settlements in occupied land are a problem to finding peace.

  • “I am appalled that it is even allowed for a government under the Constitution of the United States to demand the those employed by or contracted by the government must have a particular viewpoint toward Israel or any foreign country.”

    You shouldn’t be because it isn’t true.

    Sotonohito is spinmeistering.

    Any U. S. Government employee is allowed to hold any views she or he wishes.

    What they can’t do AS employees is work against the orders of the President or American foreign policy.

    It has always been government policy to not do business with companies which oppose American foreign policy.

    Why would you expect the government to fund opposition to its own efforts?

  • Please provide evidence about the 26 states requiring a loyalty oath to Israel in order to get a government job; or assistance.

  • Dual alligience is the specific coded language? Agreed…a bad formulation. We see the NRA and their influence which is partly financial, big oil, banks too large to fail as swaying politicians. We can’t exempt lobbying groups on behalf of the political parties in Israel which promotes further settlements in Palestinian land, breaking promises again and again. Opposing support of parties in Israel which creates medical and economic crises in Palestinian territories is not anti-semetism. Opposing people in the US such as Koch brothers is not anti-American. Conflating a political stance with the reality of any people is wrong.

  • What Ilhan Omar didn’t say or imply (but could have) is that the much larger number of people in America with questionable allegiance to the foreign government of Israel are not Jews or AIPAC, but rather are Fundamental Christians. And this allegiance to Israel on their part has little to do with wishing the best for all Jewish people. Rather, the existence of physical Israel is seen by those Christians as a necessary cog in THEIR vision of end times events which they constantly preach in various iterations—-a vision which does not necessarily coincide at all with Judaism’s view of itself.

    Those who actually care about Jewish people would never wish for America’s millions of Jews to go to a place as precarious and in permanent state of contention as Israel. Instead, we would be recommending that Jews in Israel and other countries come here and be with us in America. At present, about 35% of the world’s Jewish people are happy here, and that always begs the question of why it isn’t 45% or 55% or 65% or 75%.

  • I would also wonder what Rabbi Salkin’s father would make of the right in America and Israel using “anti-semisitm” as a cudgel to silence all criticism of the actions and policies of the Israeli government and/or support for the human rights of Palestinians? The right has seized on the term and is using what was formerly a human rights matter for their political agenda. They’ve cheapened it and its lost it’s power.

  • EXCEPT that is NOT what happened.

    Ilhan Omar took a direct shot at American Jews and accused them of loyalty to Israel over loyalty to America.

    That is EXACTLY what the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterparte did in the 1930s to characterize Jews as disloyal.

    https://www{DOT}youtube.com/watch?v=AoCkvWKccZw&feature=youtu.be

    The Democrats’ cowardice in not dealing with her and her hate under the pretext that she is merely criticizing “the actions and policies of the Israeli government” is balderdash.

    https://disqus.com/home/discussion/religionnews/dissent_among_dems_postpones_action_on_anti_semitism_measure/#comment-4368804985

  • Calling people who disagree with you traitors (which is what Ilhan Omar’s “dual loyalty” accusation does) is unacceptable.

    Omar is a hatemonger, period.

  • Ilhan Omar accused American Jews of dual loyalty.
    That is precisely how the Nazis began their attack on German Jews, and finally all Jews.

  • That is EXACTLY what the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterparte did in the 1930s to characterize Jews as disloyal.

    Really? The Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterparte accused Jews of loyalty to Israel ove loyalty to Germany in the 1930s?

    Loyalty to a country that didn’t yet exist!

  • You call folks who disagree with you names all the time.

    So you are a hatemonger as well then, by your own words!

  • Not very funny and not very intelligent.

    “To justify the murder of the Jews both to the perpetrators and to bystanders in Germany and Europe, the Nazis used not only racist arguments but also arguments derived from older negative stereotypes, including Jews as communist subversives, as war profiteers and hoarders, and as a danger to internal security because of their inherent disloyalty and opposition to Germany .”

    https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/antisemitism-in-history-nazi-antisemitism

  • In reviewing my comments, I don’t find any examples of my calling anyone disloyal to the United States.

    https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/traitor

    “A person who betrays someone or something, such as a friend, cause, or principle.”

    If you find any, please bring them to my attention.

    I am glad I was able to be of assistance in helping you with your English vocabulary.

  • I once had dinner with a Muslim coworker, and his family had a gigantic portrait of Adolf on the wall.
    I didn’t ask, and they didn’t explain.

  • There wasn’t any humor intended sicko.

    Your quote isn’t what he claimed. Had he left it at disloyalty, he might have had a point, but he diidn’t.

  • I’m pretty sure that my written English is perfect. But your reading comprehension is very lacking.

  • Yes, I’m well are of what she has said.

    I’m sorry that you are so confused.

    Off to bed I am. It’s almost 4 am. Ciao.

  • “And, please — this has nothing to do with criticizing Israel, or its policies.”

    If that is true, Omar said nothing offensive. Criticizing fanatical support of Israel’s bad policies falls into that fair critique.

  • I wonder where these same groups denouncing Omar were when Trump couldn’t bring himself to stand against literal Nazis.

  • And if only these brainwashed minds would accept the reality of The Great Kibosh of All Religions, the world would be much more peaceful place.

  • That depends on your time scale. If we don’t get hit by some wayward rock or blow ourselves up in an atomic weapons holocaust, the world is scheduled to survive another few billion years when the Sun will engulf us in its dying flames.

  • She did not.

    She said that American Republicans, mostly Christians, were passing laws requiring Americans to swear loyalty to Israel. And those Republicans, mostly Christians, have done exactly that in 26 states in the form of anti-BDS laws requiring people seeking state employment, state contracts, or state assistance to swear an oath that they will be supportive of Israel’s economy.

  • She did not. You are making stuff up.

    Omar said that **REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS**, who are mostly Christian were forcing American citizens to swear allegiance to Israel. She never even hinted that American Jews had dual loyalty, claims that she did are either misinformed or lies.

  • Cousin, 26 US states have anti-BDS laws mandating people seeking state employment, state contracts, or state assistance swear an oath that they will take no action that could possibly be harmful to Israel’s economy.

    By making this about the US government when there is not (yet) a federal level anti-BDS law is deliberately misleading.

    I think it’s entirely fair to describe such laws, passed in almost all cases entirely by Christians and with no Jews involved at all, laws mandating allegiance to a foreign country. In fact, there are no laws mandating that people seeking state contracts, aid, or employment swear an oath to uphold the economy of the USA, which puts Israel in a position above America per the laws in 26 US states.

    Again: this is not accusing any Jews of having dual loyalty but accusing quite a few American Christians of forcing other Americans (mostly Christians) to swear allegiance to Israel.

    The ADL came out against anti-BDS laws, despite the ADL opposing the BDS movement, precisely because they believed that the laws themselves, no the critics of those laws, were invoking the anitsemitic myth of dual loyalty.

  • If she had made claims that American Jews have dual loyalty I’d be in total agreement with you that those claims were completely unacceptable.

    Fortunately she has never said that so we’re all good, right?

  • Can you please cite the specific quote where Omar said Jews have dual loyalty?

    I’m asking because I have never seen any quote from Omar that said or implied that.

  • https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/anti-bds-legislation

    https://unitedwithisrael.org/kentucky-becomes-26th-us-state-to-pass-anti-bds-law/

    https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/anti-bds-legislation-coming-under-heat-in-the-media-and-in-court-1.6762647

    Isn’t it **fascinating** how someone maliciously and falsely labeled my initial comment as spam to get it removed? Funny that….

    So, again, let me ask the question someone found so threatening they had to lie about the comment where I asked it:

    How would you rewrite Rep Omar’s statements so the core meaning was left intact, but they were no longer antisemitic?

  • Interesting, but it doesn’t answer my question.

    I’ll also note that various news organizations have frequently described various politicians as swearing allegiance or loyalty to Israel in a positive way, and this was not characterized as antisemitic.

    I hate to assume bad faith, but it appears that the criteria being used by some of the organizations you cited is criticism of the current government of Israel, not statements that some American politicians have allegiance or loyalty to Israel.

    Here’s a collection of quotes praising politicians for allegiance to Israel, using that exact language, that were not denounced as antisemitic.

    https://twitter.com/erikhinton/status/1102930643456016384

    Were those articles in the NYT antisemitic?

  • I disagree Mr. Salkin that saying that the creation of Israel was a mistake is NOT being anti-semitic. It is a reality statement.

    BUT it is important to recognize that is water under the bridge, over the dam, that that ship sailed a long time ago.

    BOTH sides (Palestinians and Israelis) are responsible for the mess they are in right now today and a lot of innocents on BOTH sides are caught in the crossfire while the politicians around the world dither. This statement is also not antisemitic.

  • Well said!
    BTW If you haven’t noticed, Mark Connelly, Bill Paca and Art are all the same person. He is a sockpuppet troll.

  • Considering I’m a 44 year old overweight white cis het guy I don’t think I qualify as an ingenue no matter how we stretch the definition.

    Also, art/bill/whoever, I still don’t know what “let her have it” means in this context. Can you please explain?

    I am, however, confused and would like someone to help me out by rewriting Omar’s problematic statements in a way that keeps the meaning but omits the antisemitism, or if that’s impossible explains why. Obviously no minority group is ever under any obligation to educate an outsider, and I’m not demanding any Jewish person take the time and effort to do this.

    But if someone chose to take the time and energy to do so I’d be grateful.

  • Good citations.
    It’s good to see that states are against the hateful, bigoted BDS movement.
    Maybe you should provide the whole picture and choose your words more carefully next time.
    BTW – I didn’t tag you as spam.
    You would know if I considered yourself a spammer. Don’t be so sensitive.

  • Well, come on down South and take a look at all the statues of Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, and displays of the Rebel Battle Flag. Does the presence of all this make all Southerners racist?

  • Well a group of Wiccans has come out condemning Omar and Not-Quite-So-Resolute Resolution.

  • Omar bit off more than she can chew by attacking former President Obama. She is simply a lose cannon with no filter and therefore no future.

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  • The Nazis didn’t accuse the Jews of dual loyalty. Disloyalty yes, but they aren’t the same.

    I’m sorry to see dementia slowly creeping into your life.

  • The point that you evade, is that she didn’t say that about US Jews, she said it about US Republicans.

    Your dementia is creeping into more and more of your diatribes. It’s sad to see it happening so often now.

  • For once we agree. But this is quite logical for the left. When truth is relative all that is left is the will to power and Darwinian social evolution for the strong to eat the weak.

  • Whenever Israel does bad things to Palestinians and her backer/s rationalise it or remain mute you will expect crticism from others and surprise, surprise Rep Omar. If that criticism and anger is dubiously categorised as anti-semite take it as collateral damage just like the gift to the Gazans whenever IDF pounds Gaza !

  • Your has turned what used to be posts into diatribes.

    I appreciate the fact that since the discussions have turned into two-sided – at least – debates rather than reading like JoeMyGod II you’re having some issues.

    Her last comment that led to an outcry was:

    “I want to talk about the political influence in this country that says it is OK for people to push for allegiance to a foreign country. I want to ask why is it OK for me to talk about the influence of the NRA (National Rifle Association), of fossil fuel industries or Big Pharma, and not talk about a powerful lobbying group that is influencing policies?”

    Nothing about Republicans at all.

    Nothing about Israeli policy.

  • https://www.npr.org/2019/03/07/700901834/minnesota-congresswoman-ignites-debate-on-israel-and-anti-semitism

    In February Omar responded to a journalist Glenn Greenwald tweet about House GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy’s threat to punish Omar and another congresswoman for being critical of Israel.

    Omar tweeted “It’s all about the Benjamins baby”.

    “It’s All About the Benjamins” is a song by American rapper and producer Puff Daddy. “Benjamins” is slang for $100 bills.

    In another tweet soon after, Omar made clear she was referring to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, or AIPAC, saying it was funding Republican support for Israel.

    The clear message was that American Jews (Benjamins) – the name Benjamin, “Son of the right side”, being Hebrew, the progenitor of the Israelite Tribe – through AIPAC, were buying support for Israel with money (Benjamins).

    In point of fact the American Israel Public Affairs Committee does not make contributions to either Republic or Democratic candidates.

    AIPAC describes itself as bipartisan, only lobbies for bills jointly sponsored by both a Democrat and Republican, and notes its yearly policy conferences have included Democrat Hillary Clinton and Republican Donald Trump, Vice President Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Speaker of the House Paul Ryan.

    Note that up to this point Ilhan Omar was not criticized for a single comment aimed specifically at Israel and its policies. Rather she was criticized for attacking legally registered lawful American advocates as influence-buying Jews.

    What SHOULD she have written?

    “I intend to criticize (policy or policies of Israel to which she objects) whether Kevin McCarthy likes it or not.”

    To II of II

  • II of II

    The latest controversy arose from Omar’s remarks at an event at a Washington bookstore called Busboys and Poets .

    A question was asked about the weeks of controversy that followed Omar’s earlier tweets just discussed. She responded:

    “I want to talk about the political influence in this country that says it is OK for people to push for allegiance to a foreign country. I want to ask why is it OK for me to talk about the influence of the NRA (National Rifle Association), of fossil fuel industries or Big Pharma, and not talk about a powerful lobbying group that is influencing policies?”

    Her reference“the political influence in this country” was – again – clearly to AIPCA (American Israel Public Affairs Committee).

    Again she showed her complete contempt with “people (who) push for allegiance to a foreign country”, again alleging conflicting patriotism and loyalty on the part of Jews – or at least those who agree with AIPCA.

    This has been a classic ploy historically for leadups to pogroms and annihilation in Russia, Eastern Europe, Germany, Turkey, and a host of other countries. The Jews are a fifth column, disloyal, not-to-be-trusted.

    What SHOULD she have said?

    “Whether it is the NRA, fossil fuel industries, Big Pharma, or anyone other powerful lobbying group I intend to speak out loudly for the good of the people I represent.”

    Nancy Pelosi has tried “She didn’t have a full appreciation of how they landed on other people where these words have a history and a cultural impact that might have been unknown to her.”

    No, she’s at best a nincompoop and based on her track record she’s saying what is on her mind – anti-semitism.

    She knows who she hates and why.

  • The RNS spam filters apparently have been set to “high”.

    Urls or additional length beyond an undefined limit get them flagged.

  • Her

    “I want to talk about the political influence in this country that says it is OK for people to push for allegiance to a foreign country. I want to ask why is it OK for me to talk about the influence of the NRA (National Rifle Association), of fossil fuel industries or Big Pharma, and not talk about a powerful lobbying group that is influencing policies?”

    did not attack Israel or its policies, it attacked American Jews.

  • “I want to talk about the political influence in this country that says it is OK for people to push for allegiance to a foreign country. I want to ask why is it OK for me to talk about the influence of the NRA (National Rifle Association), of fossil fuel industries or Big Pharma, and not talk about a powerful lobbying group that is influencing policies?”

  • “The Nazis didn’t accuse the Jews of dual loyalty. Disloyalty yes, but they aren’t the same.”

    In Spanish, because in English they are essentially the same?

  • In context Ms. Omar accused lawful lobbying by Jewish Americans as “…. political influence in this country that says it is OK for people to push for allegiance to a foreign country.” which it most decidedly is NOT.

  • Re:

    https://disqus.com/home/discussion/religionnews/what_my_father_would_have_said_about_ilhan_omar/#comment-4369712212

    Spuddie, who we call Tater Tot, normally spends her time at

    https://disqus.com/home/forum/lawnewz/

    where she writes things like

    “Republicans love Nazis, like Steve King, Proud Boys, David Duke, and ‘Southern Heritage Enthusiasts’.”

    and at

    https://disqus.com/home/forum/superherohype/

    where she wows them with stuff like:

    “I would say Arnie Hammer, but he may be a better Batman.”

    If you were to suggest that she is 16 years old and “Spuddie” is just her sockpuppet troll, I doubt you would get a great deal of argument.

  • You seem to be on a roll today, with with “esentialy” and all that.

    I am sorry you can’t see how the two terms relate.

    Your just the sort of person Nancy Pelosi and Ilhan Omar are banking on, and just the sort of person that justifies American Jews being very afraid.

  • There is a big difference in being related and essentially the same.

    Orcas and hippos are related.

    Alligators and crocodiles are essentially the same.

  • Orcas and you are related.

    I’ll refrain from telling you what you’re exactly the same as.

  • Says he, who believes that he’s the arbiter of all truth, but actually has shit for brains.

  • An opinion piece by David Von Drehle, a former sports writer for the Denver Post, not an attorney, and no mention of oaths.

    As an opinion it is well written.

    As a legal analysis not so much.

    And again … no oaths.

    This dealt with a Texas “anti-BDS” law passed last year barring public agencies from doing business with a participant in the
    BDS movement.

  • You certainly have gotten cranky since your friends from JoeMyGod got thin on the ground.

  • I see nothing the matter with people criticising Israel…
    …if they’ve shown how they perfected their skills on maybe Fangoolistan, or Fabreria, or some other small country whose similar or parallel policies they don’t like.

  • They were still around for the Unite the Right rally weekend in Charleston, where one of them killed an innocent citizen — and Trump knew it when he made his dog-whistle to his own supporters of closely similar type.

  • I don’t think so, Baizuo and Mark Connelly. Fake accusation.
    The objection is clearly to what the right falsely accuses the left of doing and being, in their frequent and typical projection of their own actions and attitudes onto others.

  • Bill. You are quite right that the Nazis made false and vile accusations against “the Jews,” and against specific Jews.

    This in no way contradicts, nor even addresses David Allen’s correction of Mark Connelly’s very typical post.

    You just failed logic.

  • And the presence of “Israel” in that quotation is exactly where, Mark?

    It isn’t there, and you’re making stuff up. Again.

    The good Congresswoman is clearly speaking out against powerful lobbies, a perfectly legitimate target.

  • Awww. Sob-sob. Your support will be missed.
    Not!
    Oops. You didn’t even claim to have ever supported any Democrat, any democracy, any anything, did you?
    You’re just whining, as usual, right Bill?

  • We can even distinguish between “Israel” and “Likud.”
    It may take practice for some people, fer shure, but it’s not impossible.
    Bill. Mark. Give it a try.

  • Why should American Jews be afraid on account of David Allen’s spelling errors, Mark?
    It seems to me you’re stretching yourself rather far to find excuses to arouse fear in others.
    Tell me, Mark, does “telling other people to be afraid” qualify as threatening?

  • Fake reference, Art. That report on what Democrats are doing in the House has no relevance to this thread here.

  • “And the presence of ‘Israel’ in that quotation is exactly where, Mark?”

    Look again: “allegiance to a foreign country.”

    An industry-standard anti-Semitic trope.

  • .
    Salkin: “Rep. Omar has apologized for her earlier remarks. But, she keeps making them. Apology not accepted.”

    Moot — Omar’s not apologizing this time.

    Nor should she.

    Read any of the anti-BDS state laws, or the proposed federal law.

    If it is not obvious to you that they require American citizens to subordinate their American rights and values to Israeli “interests”, then you don’t know how to read.

    Omar was not singling out Jewish American citizens for having “dual” or foreign allegiances — she was pointing out that the Israel lobby was forcing ALL American citizens to kowtow to Israel’s orthodox and reactionary genocidal inclinations.

  • .
    Read any of the anti-BDS state laws, or the proposed federal law.

    If it is not obvious to you that they require American citizens to subordinate their American rights and values to Israeli “interests”, then you don’t know how to read.

    Omar was not singling out American Jews for having “dual” or foreign allegiances — she was pointing out that the Israel lobby was forcing ALL American citizens to kowtow to Israel’s orthodox and reactionary genocidal inclinations.
    .

  • .
    Salkin: “But, if you . . . believe that [Israel’s] creation was a mistake, some kind of primordial historical original sin . . . you are probably anti-Israel.”

    Do you not consider the Sykes-Picot agreement to have been a “mistake”, one for which millions are still paying with their lives?

    The creation of the state of Israel and the concomitant murder and dispossession of native Palestinians in residence at the time was a “mistake” of the same or greater magnitude.

    But that was then — this is now.

    Yes, Israel has a right to exist.

    But Israel should stop emulating Jews’ previous persecutors, and start adhering to principles of humanity and international law to a greater degree than it has shown to date, which is getting significantly worse not better.
    .

  • .
    Read any of the anti-BDS state laws, or the proposed federal law.
    If it is not obvious to you that they require American citizens to subordinate their American rights and values to Israeli “interests”, then you don’t know how to read.
    Omar was not singling out Jewish American citizens for having “dual” or foreign allegiances — she was pointing out that the Israel lobby was forcing ALL American citizens to kowtow to Israel’s orthodox and reactionary genocidal inclinations.
    .

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