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Protesters, fans turn out for Rev. James Martin’s talk in Chicago

About 150 protesters gathered across the street as Rev. James Martin gave a talk titled "Encountering Jesus" on March 22, 2018, at Holy Name Cathedral in Chicago. By comparison, the talk sold out all 1,200 tickets. RNS photo by Emily McFarlan Miller

About 150 protesters gathered across the street as the Rev. James Martin gave a talk titled “Encountering Jesus” on March 22, 2018, at Holy Name Cathedral in Chicago. By comparison, the talk sold out all 1,200 tickets. RNS photo by Emily McFarlan Miller

CHICAGO (RNS) — For Catholics, a talk about Jesus doesn’t seem controversial.

And yet the Rev. James Martin, speaking on the topic at Holy Name Cathedral on Thursday evening (March 22), attracted about 150 protesters. Across the street from the church, they sang hymns and prayed the rosary. They held signs saying “Fr. Martin’s bridge to sin offends God” and “Sin creates chasms not bridges” — references to the title of his book, “Building a Bridge,” which urges dialogue between the Catholic Church and LGBT people.

Supporters too turned out at Holy Name for the first of several talks this week by Martin, who was invited to speak in the Archdiocese of Chicago after criticism of him by alt-right Catholic websites and some conservative Catholic writers. That pushback after the publication of his book last year led to the cancellation of several of his talks.

The protesters belonged to a group of Catholic laypeople called the American Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family and Property, according to its Chicago bureau director, Preston Noell.

Cardinal Blase Cupich of the Archdiocese of Chicago, center rear, listens as the Rev. James Martin speaks on March 22, 2018, at Holy Name Cathedral in Chicago. RNS photo by Emily McFarlan Miller

Noell said the group had been part of the online campaigns that led to the cancellation of three of Martin’s talks last fall. That’s when Cardinal Blase Cupich of Chicago invited the Jesuit author to give a series of talks about Jesus — the subject of at least one of his canceled talks — in the Archdiocese of Chicago during the last days of Lent, a penitential season observed by many Christians leading up to Easter.

“This is all very very damaging and harmful to the faith, and so we don’t think he should be given a platform. I’m very disappointed he’s here in my town, welcomed unfortunately by Cardinal Cupich,” Noell said, adding that he prays for Martin every day.


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Martin told Religion News Service in an interview before his talk that Cupich’s invitation in September was “very welcome because it was a reminder to people that what I’m saying is entirely keeping with the gospels and church teaching.”

“Building a Bridge” has been endorsed by several bishops and two cardinals. The cover of the revised and expanded edition released earlier this month carries the words of Cardinal Kevin Farrell, prefect of the Vatican’s Dicastery for Laity, Family and Life, calling it “A welcome and much-needed book.”

The Rev. James Martin gives a talk titled “Encountering Jesus” on March 22, 2018, at Holy Name Cathedral in Chicago. RNS photo by Emily McFarlan Miller

The reception Martin has received at similar events has been “overwhelmingly positive.” At a recent appearance in Los Angeles, he said, people had lined up for three hours to share their stories and have their books signed. There were “lots of tears and hugs and gratitude, mainly.”

“It is an extremely small percentage of people who are against the message, but it’s not surprising. There’s always been homophobia and hatred in the church — even Jesus had to deal with scribes and Pharisees who didn’t want to open their hearts to people,” he told Religion News Service.


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Inside the cathedral Thursday night, the pews were packed. Tickets to the talk, which was often lighthearted, were sold out — all 1,200 of them — and only 20 or 30 remained for the next night’s talk, according to the archdiocese.

Martin opened his talk, “Encountering Jesus: Meeting the Christ of Faith and the Jesus of History,” by thanking Cupich for the invitation. And drawing on his reputation as a humorist, Martin also apologized to those who’d come that he was not Sister Jean, the 98-year-old nun and Loyola University Chicago men’s basketball team chaplain who has attained “international celebrity” status during March Madness.


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And he talked about Jesus.

“You can’t tame Jesus. Humanity and divinity are both part of his story. Scissor out the uncomfortable parts, and it’s not Jesus we’re talking about, it’s our own creation,” said Martin, a Jesuit priest, best-selling author and editor at large of America magazine.

Marilynn Pathiyil, who attends Old St. Patrick’s Church in Chicago, came to the talk after reading Martin’s book “The Jesuit Guide to (Almost) Everything.” She felt the book changed her life, she said, “like he wrote it just for me.”

Pathiyil said the protesters outside made her feel sad, “like they were missing the point almost,” and she spent much of the hour she waited in the line wrapping around the block to enter the cathedral praying for them. She doesn’t know everything about Martin’s views on including LGBT people in the church, she said, but “as far as I’ve read and understand, it’s just to be inclusive of them and love them and be kind and treat them like humans, and I agree with all those things.”

“I think that’s what we’re all called to do. That’s why when I saw them I felt sad. It’s not about changing church doctrine, if that’s what they’re holding onto. It’s just about being loving,” she said.

Not long after the talk had ended, cheers erupted from many of the people still milling around the sanctuary or purchasing Martin’s books in the narthex as they checked the score of the Loyola game on their phones. The Jesuit university had beaten Nevada 69-68 to advance to the Elite Eight in the college basketball tournament.

About the author

Emily McFarlan Miller

Emily McFarlan Miller is a national reporter for RNS based in Chicago. She covers evangelical and mainline Protestant Christianity.

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