Ben Carson: Muslims unfit to be US president

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Republican presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson appears on Fox Business Networkís 'Varney & Co.' in New York on August 12, 2015. Photo courtesy of REUTERS/Brendan McDermid

Republican presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson appears on Fox Business Networkís 'Varney & Co.' in New York on August 12, 2015. Photo courtesy of REUTERS/Brendan McDermid

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GOP hopeful Carson overlooks Article Vl (no religious test for office), saying a U.S. president's faith should be "consistent with the Constitution" and Islam is not.

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  • bqrq

    President Obama has written about being raised as a Muslim and practicing Islam. He also claims that he converted to Christianity in a very liberal quasi-church after becoming a politician. Obama never renounced Islam and he continues to strongly advocate Islam, so we already have a semi, somewhat, sort of Muslim President.

  • Bernardo

    Ben should have quoted the koran to give credence to his statement: Some passages that come to mind:

    o “Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends.” (Surah 5:51)

    Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”

    Quran (9:5) – “So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them.”

  • Knox Palmer

    Ben Carson’s comments are consistent with the Sixth Amendment. The Sixth Amendment allows an individual to create a religious test for their support and vote. The Sixth Amendment does not require Carson to advocate for a Muslim to be in charge of this nation. The Sixth Amendment does prohibit Carson from using the government to prevent a Muslim from appearing on a ballot.

  • Jeff

    I think all of the commenters thus far should form their own country called McJesustan where there isn’t freedom of religion.

  • Garson Abuita

    Carson and the rest of the theocrats running for the GOP nomination believe that public officials should be able to deny services to the public if it violates their sincerely-held religious beliefs, no matter how reasonable an accomodation is being offered. THAT is inconsistent with the Constitution.
    By the way Ben, tell us about how in 1844 Jesus invisibly moved from the Heavenly Sanctuary to the Heavenly Holy of Holies, instead of doing the Second Coming that year like your church’s founder predicted. Also please tell us about Pope Francis being the anti-Christ.
    Oh those aren’t fundamental SDA beliefs? Not all SDAs believe that? Well the same goes for Muslims and the Quran.

  • Tom

    Wow. I always thought the comments sections of Religion News Service had fewer people making ridiculously stupid assertions, but I guess not. Nothing in the above statement by bqrq is remotely true.

    http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2011/apr/28/gordon-robertson/gordon-robertson-says-obama-was-raised-muslim/

  • Tom

    Knox Palmer, nothing AT ALL in the Sixth Amendment says anything even REMOTELY like that.

  • Tom

    Wow. I always thought the comments sections of Religion News Service had fewer people making ridiculous assertions, but I guess not. Nothing in the above statement by bqrq is remotely true.

    http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2011/apr/28/gordon-robertson/gordon-robertson-says-obama-was-raised-muslim/

  • Larry

    OK so we have at least three nabobs who have no regard for our nation, its freedom and its laws.

    Greg1: Article IV, P3, “no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States”. A politician’s faith is never relevant to their qualification to serve the nation. One’s animosity to a given faith is not a valid concern for who can run for office.

    BB: The only way that could happen is if people destroy the 1st Amendment free exercise clause and the separation of church and state. As far as I can see, that is the goal of Christian fundamentalists with political power. It is the GOP which is clearing the path for Sharia.

    bqrq: None of that is true.

    The man is pro-gay, pro-abortion, pro women’s rights, shaves, eats bacon, and drinks beer. The man is as Muslim as the pope. You have more in common with Islamicists than he does.

  • Larry

    That is the least intelligent thing I have read in the last couple of days.

    Article VI, paragraph 3
    “The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Religious_Test_Clause

  • JOSE M VEGA

    There are stupid people that CAN NOT ACCEPT A BLACK MAN PRESIDENT OF THE USA and any charge NO MATTER HOW STUPID is good to demostrate we elected the WRONG GUY.
    I bet you are in favor of what Pres. Bush did in Iran…
    Brain dead you are.

  • Evan Ray

    Tom–the sixth amendment does not prevent an individual from having a “litmus” test for their support and vote. Just ask Mitt Romney.

  • Larry
  • Leftwing Robot

    Don’t you love everyone making up stuff.
    Neither Carson nor anyone else said there was a religious test.
    Carson just said he wouldn’t vote for one.

    Carson is exercising his religious right not to vote for a Muslim.

  • larry

    No. Like Ben Carson, you feel the need to make crap up to support a view bereft of facts. Carson said no Muslim can qualify for president because they are the wrong religion. That they are unfit for the position. As if one’s religious faith is a necessary part of the job. A religious test.

  • Greg1

    Larry, where did I say that there is a legal impediment that “disqualifies” a Muslim for president. I was only making the point of the court of public opinion.In other words, you need people to vote for you…

  • Larry

    Why must you lie so obviously? You were saying that a Muslim inherently wouldn’t be capable to be president. You are claiming the faith automatically pegs one as it incapable of being following democratic principles.

    You are not one to speak of religious freedom. At every opportunity,you demonstrate that you don’t understand the concept beyond what you think your faith can excuse.

  • George Nixon Shuler

    Substitute “Christian” for “Muslim” in your post and it’s equally valid; or any other religion. The fact is a militant religious fanatic – or even a militant atheist – is unfit to lead a diverse country and maintain its freedoms. By that measure, Carson is certainly unfit, as is Huckabee, Santorum, Cruz, Perry (yes, I know he dropped out, but still), and Jindahl.

  • George Nixon Shuler

    Well, that’s certainly reassuring. Keith Ellison would certainly be an excellent choice.

  • George Nixon Shuler

    Just because something is not illegal does not make it right.

  • Greg1

    Larry, you can’t have it both ways. First I say it is clearly impossible by the standards set forth in the Koran, for a “true” Muslim run a country that allows every form of religion to exist equally. Just look at how Christianity is suppressed in nearly all Muslim-run country. There is a reason for that, and it is called Islam. Then you take the legal position that it is “legal” for a Muslim to run for president, which I never implied. Now you take the personal attack approach, by calling me a liar, and tell me I am incapable of seeing clearly. Well you have made very schizophrenic argument. As for my vision for how this country’s laws should be understood, well, history tends to agree with me, and not you, nor this Activist Supreme Court.

  • Bernardo

    Leftwing,

    I ditto your comments. Right on!!

  • Larry

    What a load of bullcrap. No religious belief of any type qualifies or disqualifies one for public office in any given fashion.

    As it stands fundamentalist belief of any type is antithetical to democracy. Even that of Mr. Carson. It makes people disregard ideas like religious freedom and promoted sectarian discrimination.

    Don’t give me this Muslim run country bullcrap. They are dictatorships, not role models. They are a perfect example if what happens when religion is entangled with political power. To deny there have not been Christian versions of such dictatorships is a flat out lie.

    Your vision if our country’s laws is an attack on its democratic principles. To declare civil liberties only exist if you are if the “correct” faith. Like an Iranian Mullah.

  • Marine1

    It’s pretty amazing that, after reading about Ben Carson’s religious beliefs and statements, anyone would seriously consider this guy for any political office.
    unbelievable

  • Ben in oakland

    Actually, he didn’t say that either. from CNN:

    Carson, meanwhile, was asked Sunday whether a president’s faith should matter to voters.

    “I guess it depends on what that faith is,” he said. “If it’s inconsistent with the values and principles of America, then of course it should matter. But if it fits within the realm of America and consistent with the Constitution, no problem.”

    Asked whether Islam is consistent with the Constitution, Carson said: “No, I don’t — I do not.”

    As mind numbingly incoherent as that is, he certainly does seem to be saying that the Muslim should not be elected as president of the United States by reason of his religion. I feel the same way about Christians who insist that their personal faiths should be of interest to the voters.

    But that is my own personal religious test.

  • Larry

    It gets worse. The guy is even willing to compromise his professional ethics in his given profession as a physician to pander to the cretin vote. He has come out and declared support for the anti-vaccination crowd.

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/09/22/pediatric-neurosurgeon-dr-ben-carson-is-now-putting-kids-in-harms-way-to-win-gop-votes/

    Shamelessness appears to be the default setting for GOP presidential candidates.

  • David

    Tom, have you lived in Indonesia? Do you understand that they have the largest Muslim population in the world? I have been there and also to Malaysia many times. When a child attends school there they are indoctrinated into the religion. For all intents and purposes, they have submitted to be a Muslim and remain a Muslim throughout their lives.

    When we all stop and consider our formative years and the influences that stay with us into adulthood, how can we flippantly discount the fundamental disciplines that were taught to Mr. Obama?

  • David

    This same question was raised during the Kennedy years. The difference being, JFK publicly stated that he would not allow the Vatican to influence his presidency. No Muslim that I have personally spoken to would ever renounce his adherence to Muslim law in order to accept the position of president.

    The law did not prevent a Catholic from becoming president, but the person assured the country his religious beliefs would not interfere with the execution of his duties.

  • larry

    Malaysia and Indonesia also are countries which flirt with autocracy every now and then. Both countries have a national religion. They have entangled the apparatus of state with a given faith. They are hardly analogues to American government or political culture. An American citizen going through such a system is still an outsider to such cultures and systems.

    ” how can we flippantly discount the fundamental disciplines that were taught to Mr. Obama?”

    When they are based on a combination of ignorance, racism, xenophobia and paranoid delusion, then you can dismiss them very easily.

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  • Larry

    “The law did not prevent a Catholic from becoming president, but the person assured the country his religious beliefs would not interfere with the execution of his duties.”

    Which is not something we are getting from Carson, Huckabee, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, or Jindal. In fact, quite the opposite. They are claiming their religious belief entitles them to be president and to rights above all those of different faiths than themselves.

  • Larry

    The sixth Amendment isn’t relevant to any of it. It has to do with rights of criminal law due process.

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  • David Woolmer

    All the comments against Ben Carson seem oblivious of the ideology of Islam. There is no division of religion and government in Islam. True Muslims believe implicitly in rule via Shariah which disagrees with ALL the Articles of the Constitution. A Muslim President would swear on a Koran and would be bound to enjoin the USA as part of a worldwide Islamic Caliphate and the rights of all non-muslims would be threatened.

  • David Woolmer

    The fundamental disciplines and unbreakable rules of Islam taught to Obama at his madrassah are redolent themselves of ignorance,xenophobia,racism,misogyny,paranoid delusion and,supremacism all of which are impossible to dismiss at all!

  • David Woolmer

    Your President by his words and actions in elevating Muslims and Islam well above Christians and Christianity speaks volumes. He is active in allowing Muslim immigrants into the USA in considerable numbers whilst preventing Syrian Christians. His speech criticising the crusades was a classic of revisionism and disingenuous rubbish! He surrounds himself with muslim “advisers” many connected with CAIR which,rightly, has been connected to the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organisation.

  • Ellis Young

    I believe Obama is a Muslim and a bad one. If ruining the country is what it’s about, he’s a rock star.