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Christian rock star comes out as gay. Here’s the letter he wrote to the world

Since 2001, Trey Pearson's "Everyday Sunday" has sold around a quarter of a million albums, and his 2009 album made its way onto the coveted Billboard 200 chart. He has toured in all 50 states and 20 countries, playing with top Christian musicians such as Toby Mac, Switchfoot, MercyMe, Jeremy Camp and others. Photo courtesy of Trey Pearson

(RNS) “I don’t mean to cry. It’s just been such a long time coming.”

Trey Pearson, 35, was overcome with emotion halfway into our first interview, and it is easy to understand why. For the past 15 years, he’s been the lead singer of the popular Christian rock band Everyday Sunday. But he decided to put his career on the line this week and acknowledge to his fans that he is gay.

“I finally decided to come out because I couldn’t keep trying to be something that I wasn’t,” he tells me.

Pearson’s announcement is no small story. Since 2001, Everyday Sunday has sold around a quarter of a million albums. His song “Wake Up! Wake Up!” was the most-played Christian rock song of 2007, and his 2009 album, “Best Night of Our Lives,” broke onto the coveted Billboard 200 chart. Pearson has toured in all 50 states and 20 countries, playing with top Christian musicians such as Toby Mac, Switchfoot, MercyMe, Jeremy Camp and others.

Trey Pearson on the June 2016 cover of (614) Magazine.

Photo courtesy of (614) Magazine

Trey Pearson on the June 2016 cover of (614) Magazine.

(614) Magazine, an entertainment and culture magazine in Columbus, Ohio, will tell Pearson’s story in a 12-page cover story for its June issue. His narrative will ring familiar to many who grew up in a religious community. Pearson was raised in a conservative Christian home where he was taught that sexual orientation was a matter of choice. Though he knew from an early age that he was attracted to other males, he attempted to suppress his feelings and “be straight.”

“I never wanted to be gay,” he tells (614). “I was scared of what God would think and what all of these people I loved would think about me; so it was never an option for me.”

Nearly eight years ago, Pearson married a woman in hopes of achieving the kind of straight dream-life his community would support. Though he and his wife had two children, his hopes never materialized and Pearson realized he “was never going to be who my wife needed me to be.”

“I was not making it an option to be gay so I could be loyal to her and my children,” he told me. “But then I realized the only way I was ever going to be my best for them was to be healthy myself.”

As Pearson started accepting his sexual orientation, he sought guidance from other Christian leaders. The first person he told was pastor Jonathan Martin, author of “How to Survive a Shipwreck,” who helped him connect with a counselor. His mentor and friend Rob Bell, former pastor and author of “How to Be Here,” also helped him process.

Trey Pearson, 35, has been the lead singer of the popular Christian rock band "Everyday Sunday." But he decided to put his career on the line this week and admit to his faithful fans that he is gay. Photo courtesy of Trey Pearson

Trey Pearson, 35, has been the lead singer of the popular Christian rock band Everyday Sunday. But he decided to put his career on the line this week and acknowledge to his fans that he is gay. Photo courtesy of Trey Pearson

While Pearson says he will no longer live a lie, he is not abandoning his faith. The rocker says he still prays regularly and reads the Bible. He even once memorized the entire epistle of James. His study of the Scriptures, he says, has led him to believe that the handful of Bible verses that directly address homosexuality do not prohibit the kind of loving, committed gay relationships known to the modern world.

“There is absolutely no conflict with accepting who I am and following Jesus,” he said. “God wants me to be healthy, authentic, whole, integrated and my truest self.”

Pearson’s shift places him in the center of a growing movement of popular Christian musicians who are coming out as gay and are advocating for a more open and accepting posture in the church. Ray Boltz, whose songs were staples in evangelical churches throughout the 1990s, came out as gay in 2004. Grammy-nominated Anthony Williams  became the first openly gay gospel artist in 2009. Jennifer Knapp, another Grammy-nominated Christian artist, acknowledged that she was a lesbian one year later. And in 2014, popular worship music artist Vicky Beeching told The Independent that she too was a lesbian.

These musicians paid a hefty price. Since Christian music fans tend to be conservative and believe that homosexual acts are sinful, you won’t hear these artists’ music played in most churches or on Christian radio these days.

Pearson accepts that his announcement could mark the end of his music career too, but he hopes it will signal a fresh start instead. He plans to continue making music and will release a new single later this year. He will perform at Wild Goose, the Christian festival in July, and hopes to become a voice within the burgeoning “gay Christian” movement.

“I definitely know how hard it was on my journey to be able to accept myself, and how other people’s voices and stories helped me. So I absolutely want to be a voice for other people,” Pearson says. “I know there are more and more Christians that realize how important this is, and I hope I can join with them in seeing this change.”

Pearson’s journey begins today with a single step and the following letter written to those who’ve supported his music over the years.

To my fans and friends:

Most of us reach at least one pivotal moment in our lives that better defines who we are.

These last several months have been the hardest – but have also ended up being the most freeing months — of my life.

To make an extremely long story short, I have come to be able to admit to myself, and to my family, that I am gay.

I grew up in a very conservative Christian home where I was taught that my sexual orientation was a matter of choice, and had put all my faith into that. I had never before admitted to myself that I was gay, let alone to anyone else. I never wanted to be gay. I was scared of what God would think and what all of these people I loved would think about me; so it never was an option for me. I have been suppressing these attractions and feelings since adolescence.  I’ve tried my whole life to be straight. I married a girl, and I even have two beautiful little kids. My daughter, Liv, is six and my son, Beckham, is two.

I had always romanticized the idea of falling in love with a woman; and having a family had always been my dream. In many ways, that dream has come true. But I have also come to realize a lot of time has passed in my life pushing away, blocking out and not dealing with real feelings going on inside of me. I have tried not to be gay for more than 20 years of my life. I found so much comfort as a teen in 1 Samuel 18-20 and the intimacy of Jonathan and David. I thought and hoped that such male intimacy could fulfill that void I felt in my desire for male companionship. I always thought if I could find these intimate friendships, then that would be enough.

Then I thought everything would come naturally on my wedding night. I honestly had never even made out with a girl before I got married. Of course, it felt anything but natural for me. Trying not to be gay, has only led to a desire for intimacy in friendships which pushed friends away, and it has resulted in a marriage where I couldn’t love or satisfy my wife in a way that she needed. Still, I tried to convince myself that this was what God wanted and that this would work. I thought all of those other feelings would stay away if I could just do this right.

When Lauren and I got married, I committed to loving her to the best of my ability, and I had the full intention of spending the rest of my life with her. Despite our best efforts, however, I have come to accept that there is nothing that is going to change who I am.

I have intensely mixed feelings about the changes that have resulted in my life. While I regret the way I was taught to handle this growing up, how much it has hurt me and the unintentional pain I have brought Lauren, I wouldn’t have the friendship I now have with her, and we wouldn’t have our two amazing, beautiful children. But if I keep trying to push this down it will end up hurting her even more.

I am never going to be able to change how I am, and no matter how healthy our relationship becomes, it’s never going to change what I know deep down: that I am gay. Lauren has been the most supportive, understanding, loving and gracious person I could ever ask for, as I have come to face this. And now I am trying to figure out how to co-parent while being her friend, and how to raise our children.

I have progressed so much in my faith over these last several years. I think I needed to be able to affirm other gay people before I could ever accept it for myself. Likewise, I couldn’t expect others to accept me how I am until I could come to terms with it first.

I know I have a long way to go. But if this honesty with myself about who I am, and who I was made by God to be, doesn’t constitute as the peace that passes all understanding, then I don’t know what does. It is like this weight I have been carrying my whole life has been lifted from me, and I have never felt such freedom.

In sharing this publicly I’m taking another step into health and wholeness by accepting myself, and every part of me. It’s not only an idea for me that I’m gay; It’s my life. This is me being authentic and real with myself and other people. This is a part of who I am.

I hope people will hear my heart, and that I will still be loved. I’m still the same guy, with the same heart, who wants to love God and love people with everything I have. This is a part of me I have come to be able to accept, and now it is a part of me that you know as well. I trust God to help love do the rest.

– Trey

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Jonathan Merritt

Jonathan Merritt is senior columnist for Religion News Service and a contributing writer for The Atlantic. He has published more than 2500 articles in outlets like USA Today, The Week, Buzzfeed and National Journal. Jonathan is author of "Jesus is Better Than You Imagined" and "A Faith of Our Own: Following Jesus Beyond the Culture Wars." He resides in Brooklyn, NY.

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  • Good for you, Trey.
    You have exposed the lie that being gay is a choice. You “chose” to be heterosexual, and it didn’t work.

    You have exposed the lie that Jesus will fix you. I’m sure you prayed and prayed and prayed. Jesus apparently didn’t think it was worth his time.

    you have exposed the lie the gay people are anti-family. What is anti-family is the idea that gay people should marry the opposite sex. Your story is coming out well, and you have your wonderful children in your life. As I used ot argue: “Let us marry each other so that we don’t marry you!”

    You have exposed the lie that being gay is being anti-Christian. The worst anti-Christian people are the ones that denounce other Christians not being true Christians.

  • My opinion of the Christian Rock genre is summed up best by a quote by Hank Hill, “you are not making Christianity any better, just making rock and roll worse”. If this singer was working in less of a genre ghetto like Christian music, this would not be news.

  • Praise the Lord., another faithful servant who has realized that God does not make junk and that ALL, of his children are loved. Good luck and many blessings for you and yours Trey., stay true to yourself and what God has made. You are a winner.
    Bob and Lloyd
    Vancouver, B.C.
    Canada.

  • Dear World:
    I am a hetero male who likes young females. But my love for God and the law of men don’t allow me to enjoy what I desire. Paul said
    All things are lawful unto me but not all things behoove me and I will not allow them to control me (paraphrased).
    My love for God is more important than my desires, period. One can call himself gay, or Christian, but not both…

  • “It is like this weight I have been carrying my whole life has been lifted from me, and I have never felt such freedom.” Bravo! So happy for you Trey. May the Lord continue to light your path. And I hope you can come visit us at the Gay Christian Network Conference this January.

  • Is being gay a choice? I don’t think so. Please look up studies that evaluate the brains of various people. Those who “claim” to be gay actually have different brain patterns than “normal” people. So do those with OCD, schizophrenia, fibromyalgia, etc. The list goes on and on. it was not too many decades ago that the Christian community called those with mental illnesses possessed by Satan. They no longer do that. That being said, what he does with his life with this “conditon” that he did NOT choose is up to him. There are thousands of gay people who choose not to practice because they know the practice is a sin. I have a good friend who has made that choice. It is like choosing not to lie or cheat or covet or any of the other sins. But perhaps a bit more difficult because it is truly who they are. Jesus came to save sinners not condemn them. The American Christian Church is failing their Savior. I amy not like their lifestyle, but I certainly believe they have the right to live it. As much as I have the right to live mine.

  • And yet…
    every time you lust after a young girl, you are committing adultery with her in your heart. And since you do it again and again and again, one has to question your repentance. One might even think you like it. One could probably not call you a Christian by the same standard which you deny the relationship of god with any soul on the planet.

  • It’s not a lifestyle, it’s a life.
    So god created gay people. but he wants them to be unhappy, unfulfilled, and self hating. Nice god. He sounds just like the many of the people who claim to represent him.
    There are “thousands” of gay people who choose not to practice. I suspect there are 100’s of thousands of committed Christian gay people whose communion with god tells them it is not a sin. Funny how you know what god has communicated to them about their lives.

  • Newsflash, the United States is a democratic republic, not a theocracy. If you don’t like that fact, I suggest you find a country more to your liking to move too. I hear Saudi Arabia is nice in the summertime. Ultra-conversative ‘Christians’ are no better than ISIS.

    The Bible is very clear, it is just a shame people like you don’t understand what it says and probably rarely read it. By the way, God didn’t write the Bible nor did he transcribe it. It was written by fallible men and no doubt, many of them are fearmongers like most of the religious leaders of our time.

  • or, is he just tired of lying to everyone. Whether lying for jesus or not, it’s still lying.

  • Fine, it is a life. Boy do you sound angry. I know several who are not self hating, are believers in Christ–some practice and some don’t. For a variety of reasons. ON the other hand, I know a lot of so-called Christians who are not gay who are self-hating as well. No-one holds a corner on that market. I have no idea what God has communicated to them about their lives. I thought I was making a comment that was supportive and inclusive. I did state that they have a right to live their lives how they choose. I also opened up my comment stating that it is not a choice. It is who they are.

  • That is exactly the point. I have been trying to figure out how to say it. Good old Paul. I do depart from agreeing with your statement about being gay and Christian. I think you can be both if you are gay, as I think that being gay is not a Choice. Practicing homosexual acts is a choice. I grew up in a family situation such that I became a habitual liar from early childhood to protect myself from my father’s wrath. It carried over into the rest of my life and I had to teach myself not to lie when I learned to understand what I was doing. All things are lawful, but not all things glorify God.

  • The Bible is also very clear on those who pass judgement on others. Take the log out of your own eye before taking the speck out of your brother’s. In other words we all have sin in us. In America some sins are more acceptable than others. In Gods’ eye it is all sin. Let him judge. Judge not lest you be judged with the judgement you give to others.

  • Am I angry? Sure I am. Gay kids kill themselves. People who claim to represent morality lie, revile, and slander. People starve while highly paid religious grifters build their mansions on the backs of gay people.

    do your friends hate themselves because they are Christian? Have they been taught ot hate themselves because they believe in Jesus? Apples and oranges.

    you thought you were being supportive, but:

    you compare the lives of gay people to lying and cheating,

    claim that the committed Christians of many, many denominations are failing Jesus– or at least your personal version of him,

    don’t like their lifestyles– again, it’s a LIFE–

    and presume to know the relationship of god with any other person on the planet.

    I suppose that all of that sounds “supportive” to you. It sounds to me like you are beating the old “love the sinner hate the sin” drum with an ever larger stick, but can’t keep your true opinions out of the music.

  • That was not the founders’ intentions and in fact the complete opposite of their intentions. Educate yourself and don’t spout right-wing propaganda which distorts and lies about history. Just like so many “Christians” distort and lie about the Bible. It’s when Christians carry on like this and spout nonsense while trying to dictate the laws and behavior of everyone else that they lose the respect of the majority of people. Your religious rights stop where others’ civil and human rights begin. Join the 21st century.

  • Various issues with your response…I do not lust after them, that is part of how one avoids falling into temptation. By saying that I judge, you are judging…Let me clarify one thing, if you openly practice homosexuality, you have made your choice what team you are on. Temptation is not a sin, giving into it is…

  • Claiming that sexual orientation is a “choice” is a lie. Science has proven sexual orientation is inborn and unchangeable. The US Supreme Court, several US federal and several US State Supreme Courts have examined that evidence and ruled that discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation is similarly unconstitutional as discrimination based on race because BOTH are IMMUTABLE characteristics. A quick look on any search engine on the phrase “Physiological Basis of Homosexuality” turns up over 26,000 articles, the vast majority supporting the biological basis of same sex attraction, but NONE of them have any PROOF for the wild claim anti-gays make that “it’s a choice.”

  • You ought to be ashamed of yourself. This habit anti-gays have of dehumanizing gay Christians is in fact helping defeat the anti-gay political agenda, but it is also causing a collapse in religious participation:

    “Among those who say they left their childhood religion and now have no religious identity, nearly one in four (24 percent) say their church’s negative teachings or treatment of LGBT people was an important reason they left. That rises to 31 percent of millennials, damaging churches’ ability to bring in — and keep — young adults”

    http://www dot religionnews dot com/2014/02/26/gay-marriage-lgbt-prri-pew-religion/

  • Sounds like you want to have your opinions, but I am not allowed mine?! Christian kids kill themselves as well. Yes, some of them do hate themselves because they are Christian. American Christianity is in many ways very self-rightous and unyielding while at the same time preaching forgiveness. A hug dichotomy. We want to live the life, but it is very difficult. It took me a lot of years to believe in the forgiveness that I preached. I hated myself because I couldn’t seem to live the life I understood to be Christianity. We fail Jesus all the time, daily. Which is why believers understand their need of HIm. And agin, I acknowledged the use of the word LIFE. get a grip. Lying and cheating. Just examples. You are so angry that you can’t see that you are condemning me for the very actions that you are committing yourself. That is one of the points Jesus makes when he says to take the log out of your own eye before taking the speck out of someone elses’. I don’t have a clue about how gay people feel (well, actually I do). But the think about people like you is that you feel it is ok to speak your mind, but don’t want to grant me the same privledge. I value your opinion. I am just sorry you are so angry. I was there once. But I have been freed from it. Thank you for taking the time to converse with me. And feel free tor ant to all your friends all day about this idiot Christian you had a dialog with this morning.

  • You have made the mistake of reminding readers that anti-gays are attempting to force a political agenda onto all normal, non-homophobic Americans.

  • Nita is correct. There’s another nation that is ideal for anti-gays–Russia. Vladimir Putin shows all the appearances of harboring his own secret same gender desires, as we’ve seen anti-gays so often do. Putin promotes the anti-gay political agenda in many ways. Putin hosted a meeting of anti-gays from the US in Moscow in September 2014, where they could speak openly of their traitorous intent. Putin harbors an anti-gay criminal from the US, Brian Brown, the boss of NOM, who is a fugitive from justice in the US for campaign finance violations, even allowing Brown to write some of Russia’s new anti-gay Hate Laws.

  • Gay and lesbian Americans are normal. Anti-gays are not normal, they have a mental disorder, homophobia. Your trying to convince us that you have “gay friends who choose to live a life without love and fulfillment” is evidence you do not recognize LGBT Americans have the right to live the way they were born.

  • If you read the tenets of Islamic Sharia Law and the tenets of the Republican Party you will see they are pretty much the same. The Republicans want to keep Muslims out because they want to impose the Christian version of Sharia Law on the USA. Here in Canada, the Conservative Party which is our Republican Party finally smartened up and removed their opposition to same sex marriage from their platform by an overwhelming margin. Since it has been legal here for 11 years and nothing bad has happened, they decided to end their opposition and move on. It’s time the USA did likewise.

  • Why would the majority of Americans who support equality for LGBT Americans be angry? We have already WON. Please don’t try to “project” the rage expressed by anti-gays at the defeat of their traitorous political agenda onto their intended victims.

  • “I do not lust after them, that is part of how one avoids falling into temptation.” You just “like” them. OK. My apologies for thinking that liking young females is a sin.

    ‘By saying that I judge, you are judging” I don’t claim to live by the words of Jesus.

    “Let me clarify one thing, if you openly practice homosexuality, you have made your choice what team you are on.” As opposed to lying about it, as so many “good Christians” do? Oh, that isn’t what you meant. I do know what team I’m on. The teams the seeks ot lift and elevate people, not the team that condemns them for being who they are when they are not harming nayone.

    “Temptation is not a sin, giving into it is…” Not according to Jesus, but then, none of the antigay arguments are according to Jesus. Matthew 5:27-28New King James Version (NKJV)t

    27 “You have heard that it was said to those of old,[a] ‘You shall not commit adultery.’[b] 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

  • This habit anti-gays demonstrate of wanting to control the lives of others is fortunately helping convince more Americans to oppose the anti-gay political agenda.

  • Just one point confirms your assertions. Muslim fundamentalists are murdering LGBT persons. Anti-gays in the US frequently express their desire for genocide against LGBT Americans. Just taking the GOP candidates for president, Cruz had two speakers at his rallies call for genocide against LGBT Americans, Iowa pastor Kevin Swanson, and “Duck Dynasty” Phil Robertson, who also wants to “remove from the earth” anyone who supports Equal Protection Under the Law for LGBT Americans.

  • All actions are a choice. Cereal or pancakes. Go to work or stay home. You get the picture. Homosexuality is not just an orientation it is a behavior. The world must answer for its behavior. 1 Cor 6:9

  • Every time another American comes out of the closet as openly LGBT, he or she makes it that much easier for the next American to be true to him or herself and the immutable nature of sexual orientation. Harvey Milk told us, “Come out, come out,” and his advice has worked.

  • Claiming “it is a behavior” is just another way to repeat that lie. We understand why anti-gays cannot accept the overwhelming evidence that sexual orientation is inborn and unchangeable. Psychologists report that the most commonly observed symptom of the mental disorder homophobia is cognitive dissonance, an inability of those so afflicted to accept documentation that contradicts their deep-seated phobia and hatred of LGBT Americans.

  • But he is obviously not happy and can’t stay married, because that prevents his wife from being happy.

  • Sorry, but I could– in theory– only be heterosexual for the rest of my life, and that would never make me a heterosexual.

  • “gay” is not an “action”. Why is it so hard for you to get your head around that? Is “straight” an “action”? A “choice”? You’ve got a piece missing, and it isn’t a small piece either.

  • bingo. these blithering bigots just can’t get their heads around what the behavioral sciences have demonstrated over and over: the reduce being gay to having sex. So if you don’t have sex, then bingo, you’re not gay anymore. Or some such sh*t as that.

  • Sad to say, anti-gays do have a mental disorder. Psychologists identified homophobia as a mental illness and published their results in the Journal of the National Institutes of Health in 1953. Homophobia is the irrational fear, disgust, or hatred of gays, lesbians, and/or bisexual people, or of homosexual feelings in oneself. It refers to the discomfort one feels with any behavior, belief, or attitude (in self or others) that does not conform to traditional sex role stereotypes. Homophobia exhibits itself in the fear of knowing, befriending, or associating with gays, lesbians, or bisexual people; fear of being perceived as gay or lesbian; and/or fear of stepping out of accepted gender role behavior. Psychologists report that the most commonly observed symptom of the mental disorder homophobia is cognitive dissonance, an inability of those so afflicted to accept documentation that contradicts their deep-seated phobia and hatred of LGBT Americans.

  • Amen. Good for him.

    It’s interesting that his defense of still being a Christian is “I read my Bible and pray every day.” Which is accurate in american fundygelicalism, we’ve taught whole generations that reading the Bible, praying every day, and “not sinning”, whatever that means, is how to be a Christian. Not following Christ, not loving the poor and sick, not being salt and light, not living quietly as Paul instructed…nope. Read, pray, don’t get caught.

    I’m glad he’s found freedom.

  • I really hope you’ve never eaten shrimp, then, ’cause that’s described as an “abomination” more than “homosexual acts” are. Just saying.

  • amen!

    it’s funny how you can absolutely do everything christ told us to do and still be gay. following christ doesn’t make people straight.

    edit – each negative comment below just proves the point. many seem to need their damascus road moment.

  • Not a big fan of this genre of music (I find a lot of it to be very self-serving and self-congratulatory, to be perfectly honest), but major props to him for finally coming out and being honest. God makes people like him and myself gay and it’s high time to treat our gift of love as a gift from God instead of damnation.

  • How much imaginary persecution can you pack into a statement?

    of course you are allowed your opinions. I haven’t caused your remarks to be deleted, or demanded that you retract them, or claimed you shouldn’t make them.
    some of them do hate themselves because they are Christian? Citations, please. Something beyond “I have a friend….”

    Lying and cheating are just examples? Sure.

    No, I am not “so angry”, not in the sense you mean it. And again, I’m not the one claiming Christianity. YOU ARE. I’ll stop being angry when I stop hearing the highly paid, anti-gay, so called Christians who makes their livings lying about gay people repudiated by the Christians like yourself. I’ll stop being angry when gay kids stop killing themselves because of anti-gay religious toxicity. I’ll stop being angry when so called Christians in this country stop supporting imprisonment
    and execution for gay people, in this country and throughout the world.

    “But the think about people like you is that you feel it is ok to speak your mind, but don’t want to grant me the same privledge.” Again, another whine about how you are not being allowed to speak your mind, while you are being busy SPEAKING YOUR MIND.

  • Among all arguments against homosexuality, that one is one of the silliest to try to make.

  • Stryper, U2, and Dylan never identified as part of Christian Rock as a genre. They predated it. If anything they are mainstream performers who referenced Christian tropes. Christian Rock as it stands is a fairly neutered genre. It is largely produced with an eye towards proselytizing.

    I am sure there is some good stuff there. I just have little patience with the genre.(I feel the same way about a lot of genres) I also admit to having old people taste in music. What do I know? 🙂

  • As quickly as I identify music on the radio as “Christian Rock,” I trade channels. It’s right up there with listening to Glenn Beck explain why we should have voted for Ted Cruz after Cruz quit. But I might give this guy a listen. He had to have known real suffering to arrive at this point, and music, like all other art, is an effort to find healing from personal pain.

  • The difference being that is a short-term choice you are making for yourself, not a lifelong choice you wish to shame others into accepting by insisting they cannot be a Christian and have the same loving, committed and sexual relationship you intend to have when you find the right woman. Jesus warned us of these “Scribes and Pharisees” who wish to tie burdens on the backs of others which you will not carry yourself. Matt 23:4. Heed Jesus’ warning: “Prostitutes will enter the Kingdom of Heaven before you do.”

  • Yes, and you will be called to judgment for your behavior of tying burdens on the backs of others.

  • It is, and always has been, a matter of the heart, not genitals. A straight man who shames his wife into loveless, passionless sex, has never had sex with a male, and attend church on Sunday is reprehensible, but according to fundy-literalist Christians, is a ‘real man of God’. How does pure-hearted LOVE ever NOT ‘glorify God’?

  • “Bob Dylan was born Robert Allen Zimmerman (Hebrew name שבתאי זיסל בן אברהם [Shabtai Zisl ben Avraham]) in St Mary’s Hospital on May 24, 1941, in Duluth, Minnesota, and raised in Hibbing, Minnesota, on the Mesabi Range west of Lake Superior. He has a younger brother, David.”

    –from Wiki

  • Jesus did not make that anti-gay Hate Speech, that was the ramblings of a disturbed misogynist who never met Jesus, despite his claims, which are most likely to be nothing more than alcohol-fueled hallucinations.

  • You can have all the hateful, hurtful opinions as gives you your jollies. However, if you post anti-gay lies, you should expect others to debunk those lies.

  • He may have left because she rejected him, and it may not be him abandoning her.

  • You’re correct about “imaginary persecution.”

    Anti-gays all claim nowadays that their intended LGBT and LGBT-supportive victims are “the real bullies.” Psychologists refer to that particular form of deception “projection.”

  • You didn’t look very deeply. Jesus affirmed a gay couple. Read Matthew 8:5-13 and Luke 7:1-10. This is the Gospel story where Jesus healed the servant of a Roman centurion. In the original Greek, the word that the Roman centurion uses in this passage to describe the sick man – pais – is the same word used in ancient Greek to refer to a same-gender partner.

    Of course, anti-gays won’t agree with that translation. However, modern Biblical scholars have proven the Bible was intentionally mistranslated in order to provide “Biblical cover” for then-rising levels of homophobia. For example, the word “homosexual” didn’t even exist until 1870. Many major Christian and Jewish denominations condemn misusing the hate-based mistranslations to attack their fellow Americans and are marrying same gender American couples now. About 400 years ago, a group of religious authorities (sanctioned by King James I of England), secretly manipulated the English version of the Bible to reflect their own heterosexual attitude; they opposed the King kissing other men in public.

  • Yea, sure. If YOU are a straight man, SomeRandomName, then let’s put you on gay-island for the rest of your life, and instruct you to ‘just be happy’ without women (never mind the sex part, just the HUMAN part!)

  • lol he didn’t stop lying to yourself to make your sin feel better please repent

  • but you can find plenty about judging other people, logs and beams, denying the gates of heaven to others, and treating thers as you would like to be treated.

  • There’s no point in denying that the Bible says Jesus affirmed a same gender couple. What’s your problem? You have your Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kansas, but these denominations will marry same gender couples: Affirming Pentecostal Church International, Alliance of Christian Churches, Anointed Affirming Independent Ministries, The Association of Welcoming and Affirming Baptists, Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), Community of Christ, Conservative Judaism, Ecumenical Catholic Church, Ecumenical Catholic Communion, The Episcopal Church, Evangelical Anglican Church In America, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Global Alliance of Affirming Apostolic Pentecostals, Inclusive Orthodox Church, Moravian Church Northern Province, Metropolitan Community Church, Old Catholic Church, Presbyterian Church USA, Progressive Christian Alliance, Reconciling Pentecostals International, Reconstructionist Judaism, Reform Judaism, Reformed Anglican Catholic Church, Religious Society of Friends (Quakers), Unitarian Universalist Church, United Church of Christ, Unity Church

  • Those parts of the Bible do not advance Mr. Jacks’s anti-gay political agenda.

  • Your script looks very familiar. Are you about to claim there is “no such thing” as same gender attraction and affection? Some anti-gays make that hilarious claim.

  • Talmud says “If I am not for myself, then who will be for me?” No one has deprived the ex-wife of her right to speak up. Instead of imagining what she says, why don’t you document what she says?

  • “There is absolutely no conflict with accepting who I am and following Jesus. God wants me to be healthy, authentic, whole, integrated and my truest self.” – Amen and Amen!

    Trey, I see you. You are brave, you are bold, you are beautifully and wonderfully made!

    I know this has been a difficult road, but I’m so happy that you are able to live fully as the person God created you to be.

    I am sorry this public statement of who you truly are may bring about a lot of hardship. Please know you also have a lot of people who love and support you!!!

    I also believe your story will help so many others who fear what might happen if they were to come out. Thank you for sharing this beautiful story that will not only be liberating for you, but for so many others!

    I’m so excited to see what God has in store for you and how God will be working through your music in this next chapter of your life!

  • Trey, embrace your freedom. Living a lie is a fatal as inoperable cancer. I hope you now can live openly and honestly and enjoy the peace that comes with that. Don’t worry about your career. Yes, it’s easy for me to say that having not walked in your shoes, but I trust that you will be ok.
    I also struggled with my sexuality in a conservative Christian family. My grandfather was a Southern Baptist preacher. I completely understand “trying to be straight”. It never works. Be the true you and let God be your true God.

    There have been some political posts on this thread reminding us that the courts in the US support civil rights for the LGBT community. While I am thrilled that the courts have at last granted us equal rights, I never required justification from the courts to sanction my relationship with my God. Separation of Church and State and all that… You can now be the true you that you were created by God to be. Someone stated that living as a Christian is not an easy choice. I completely agree. Living as a gay Christian is without a doubt, much more difficult. Don’t allow those with extremely narrow views of Christianity distract you. Be you and let God guide you.

  • Jesus never confirmed it he actually warned against. He even affirmed marriage between man and woman just like in Genesis. Don’t be deceived satan has always tried to change God’s design from the beginning. plus God hated homosexuality he destroyed a whole town over it.

  • Please tell us exactly where in the Bible Jesus attacked loving, committed same gender couples. However, telling us Jesus liked mixed-sex couples is NOT proof Jesus HATED same gender couples, any more than if the Bible said Jesus loved oranges, Jesus “must have” hated lemons.

    And don’t bother repeating that LIE about Sodom. Ezekiel 16:49:

    King James Bible

    “Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.”

    http://biblehub dot com/ezekiel/16-49 dot htm

  • if you have to defend your sin you have a sin problem. My main read is NASB which is translated from the original scroll. do your research the village was destroyed because of their sin. Nothing in the Bible is going to change because you love the same sex let it go.

  • “There have been some political posts on this thread”

    Those who falsely claim Jesus attacked loving, committed same gender couples are being political. They are telling that lie in order to demean, demonize and dehumanize LGBT Americans to try to advance the anti-gay political agenda. Most especially, those who claim all American Christians suffer from the mental disorder, homophobia, are promoting a political agenda, in this case to deny American Christians who support equality for LGBT Americans their Freedom Of Religion.

  • yet another “biblical belief” that is simply not supported in the bible.

    The story of Sodom has nothing to do with homosexuality, as understood in that time OR in ours. Different reasons, though. People who claim it is about homosexuality have never bothered to read it or think about it, but merely repeat what a similarly situated person said. Like so many memes, constant repetition is what makes them true, not an actual analysis. Very much like the Levitical passages: unbiased scholars know these passages were interpreted as condemnations of homosexuality well after the fact.

    First, the Sodom story is one of the most ancient in the bible, probably written when your god was the Midianite Storm God Formerly Known as El– a story
    so ancient that God WALKS to Sodom, has dinner with Abraham, bargains with him, and has to send someone to Sodom to find out if the rumors are true. God is
    apparently surprised that Sarah is hiding behind the door of the tent. Sarah is
    so unafraid of the Majesty of the Lord that she lies to him. Does that fit in
    even remotely with the god of the rest of the bible?

    The same is true of the story of Job, another ancient, ancient story, probably
    by several authors. In it, God attacks Job in order to win a bet with Satan. Not exactly what I would call fitting behavior for the creator of the Universe. That God restores Job with a new wife, new children, new lands, and new health, doesn’t make this story anything else than one about a real sadist. That he makes it up later doesn’t do anything about Job’s pain.

    As for the bargaining, the constant reference is to RIGHTEOUS men. It takes
    2500 years of homohatred to turn RIGHTEOUS into Heterosexual. What people miss is that the angels DID find a righteous man—Lot– though a drunk who committed incest with his daughters. God destroyed the city anyway. Yet another indication the story doesn’t say what people claim it does. Or righteous now means an incestuous old drunk.

    Letting the bible be its own best commentator, only three other references to
    the sins of Sodom have anything to do with sexuality at all, but pride and
    inhospitality and unspecified abomination. One reference– in Jude– refers to
    “going after strange flesh.” is about lusting after angels, not men, according to many scholars. The other two are so vague as to be useless. Certainly, homosexuality is not specified.

    But the most damning–giggle–of all is what people fail to notice. Not only
    was this “sin” about the threat of gang rape– the angels were hardly
    being asked out for dinner and an evening in front of the fireplace BY ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE TOWN…

    Not only did Lot offer his virgin daughters to the crowd, an unlikely event if
    they were homosexual—it wouldn’t entice me…

    But the alleged sin of Sodom NEVER occurred. The angels struck BEFORE anything had happened. How does one sin if one didn’t? Unless, of course, the sin of Sodom was the one that actually did occur: inhospitality to strangers.

    It’s useful to compare the Sodom story with the story of the Woman of Gibeah.
    “Then the Israelites said, “Tell us how this awful thing happened. So the
    Levite, the husband of the murdered woman, said, “I and my concubine came to
    Gibeah in Benjamin to spend the night. During the night the men of Gibeah
    came after me and surrounded the house, intending to kill me. They raped my
    concubine, and she died.”

    So a man went with his concubine to a house in Gibeah, and all of the men in the town raped the woman, killing her. Did this turn into a condemnation of heterosexuality? No. But following the logic of the Sodom story, it SHOULD have. But that would seriously inconvenience heterosexuals, and disturb the narrative that gay people are always at fault for everything.

    The Sodom story, especially in contrast to the woman of Gibeah, is the perfect example of hermeneutics– the exquisite are of getting your holy bookto say exactly what you want it to. It was done for slavery, segregation, the rights of women, and the burning of witches and heretics.

    The real question is this: when will we do away with the authority of ancient
    books of unknown provenance, and simply treat others as we would like to be treated?

  • Where is your evidence Jesus said, “Go attack loving, committed same gender couples”? Where is your evidence the Bible is LYING at Ezekiel 16:49?

    You aren’t promoting a religious agenda, you’re trying to hide the anti-gay political agenda behind the skirts of religion. Fortunately, a majority of American Christians reject that deception:

    “More than six in ten (62 percent) white mainline Protestants support same-sex marriage. Among white mainline Protestant denominations, support ranges from 69 percent support among white mainline Presbyterians and 68 percent among both white Episcopalians and white Congregationalists/United Church of Christ members, to lower support among white mainline Baptists (53 percent) and white mainline Church of Christ/Disciples (50 percent).

    And while the Catholic Church officially opposes the legalization of same-sex marriage, about six in ten white (61 percent), Hispanic (60 percent), and other non-white Catholics (60 percent) support allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry legally. A majority of orthodox Christians (56 percent) also support same-sex marriage.

    The most supportive major religious groups are Buddhists (84 percent), Jews (77 percent), and Americans who select “Other religion” (75 percent); additionally, more than three-quarters (77 percent) of the religiously unaffiliated also support same-sex marriage.”

    http://publicreligion dot org/2015/04/attitudes-on-same-sex-marriage-by-religious-affiliation-and-denominational-family/# dot VbUcrRNVhBe

  • lol I do treat others as I want to be treated. If I am in sin let me know it. My Christian friends will call me out on it also.

  • Claiming “God” is your excuse for attacking LGBT Americans is blasphemy.

    Every time you post, you make it more obvious you’re promoting a political agenda.

  • I’m not attacking anyone. I’m defending the word of God that is all. There is no such thing as a gay Christian.

  • Shall we then cook up a Hate Vote to deprive you of your Constitutionally protected right to legal marriage? Shall we put advertizing on television meant to demean, demonize and dehumanize you, the way anti-gays have treated LGBT Americans?

  • Why lie? Yes, you are attacking LGBT Americans. You are denying the Word of God. There are many times more LGBT American Christians than there are dishonest, hateful, hurtful anti-gays.

  • who is being hateful. truth seems like hate huh??? when the bible disagrees with your sin you call it hate. God’s word doesn’t change from the beginning is man and woman that doesn’t change.

  • You are being hateful. You are posting lies meant to hurt LGBT Americans. I have already proven you have lied about what the Bible says about LGBT people.

    And, YES, anti-gays already DID CHANGE THE BIBLE. Modern Biblical scholars have proven the Bible was intentionally mistranslated relatively recently in order to provide “Biblical cover” for then-rising levels of homophobia. For example, the word “homosexual” didn’t even exist until 1870. Many major Christian and Jewish denominations condemn misusing the hate-based mistranslations to attack their fellow Americans and are marrying same gender American couples now. About 400 years ago, a group of religious authorities (sanctioned by King James I of England), secretly manipulated the English version of the Bible to reflect their own heterosexual attitude; they opposed the King kissing other men in public. This is why so few “churches” still promote the anti-gay political agenda.

  • By using the word of God. you know even liars will go to hell with the fornicators and adulterers also. God doesn’t discriminate against people. You must repent and out your faith in Jesus.

  • I am anything but a misogynist; I am referring to living in a sexless marriage. Th comparison was this: as a straight man, live in a community where there are no women, and ‘be happy’ with companionship that never includes women (let alone sex with a woman).

  • I’m not worried about any denominations I’m worried about you and you alone right now when you die and face God on judgment day. Please don’t let your sexual desires send you to hell. Sex isn’t worth it. please I beg you

  • You just posted more Hate Speech meant to demean, demonize and dehumanize LGBT Americans by comparing LGBT Americans to “fornicators and adulterers also.” It is you who must repent for trying to put anti-gay lies into the mouth of Jesus.

  • its all the same to God dude to God. repent turn from that life God can make you a new person in Christ.

  • Please stop harassing me. You are actually harming your political agenda by harassing me.

  • Once again, please stop harassing me. No, I will not join your Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kansas. No, I will not fall for your lies.

  • It’s really very simple to debunk the shrieks of anti-gays who claim Jesus was homophobic. We know Jesus affirmed a same gender couple; we know anti-gays faked out the Bible at the time of King James, and why. The best evidence we have anti-gays are lying is these denominations that will marry same gender couples: Affirming Pentecostal Church International, Alliance of Christian Churches, Anointed Affirming Independent Ministries, The Association of Welcoming and Affirming Baptists, Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), Community of Christ, Conservative Judaism, Ecumenical Catholic Church, Ecumenical Catholic Communion, The Episcopal Church, Evangelical Anglican Church In America, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Global Alliance of Affirming Apostolic Pentecostals, Inclusive Orthodox Church, Moravian Church Northern Province, Metropolitan Community Church, Old Catholic Church, Presbyterian Church USA, Progressive Christian Alliance, Reconciling Pentecostals International, Reconstructionist Judaism, Reform Judaism, Reformed Anglican Catholic Church, Religious Society of Friends (Quakers), Unitarian Universalist Church, United Church of Christ, Unity Church

  • you don’t have to join any denomination at all. Its not about that its about having Christ to save you on judgment day that is all. If we don’t have Christ when we die we will end up in Hell so we need him to make us white as snow clean from sin, I’m sinner just like you no different but the only thing that I have is Jesus and I’m better off then you when I die.

  • This is the third time I ask you to stop harassing me. I do not want your fake religion.

  • I’m into politics sorry. The main job of the Church is lead people to Christ to preach the Gospel. I careless about the politics this world will end soon. Nothing of the world is worth dying for.

  • Does any Christian reading this think this statement was kind of odd, coming from another Christian?

    “I was scared of what God would think.”

    So the God of the universe, the God Who reveals Himself as Omniscient, The Jesus, who told people everything they had ever done wouldn’t know what this young man was thinking/hiding from everyone else?

    I guess Christian/Rock/Superstar guy hadn’t read his Bible all that much after all did he.

    It’s ok though. You run along now and be all that you can be. I’m sure your wife and kids will be just fine.

  • Jesus will save you from God’s wrath on judgment day. You do not want to face that wrath at all. Homosexual won’t be the only ones going to hell if they don’t repent liars, thieves, fornicators, adulterers and blasphemers and many other sins will get cast into hell. Don’t let this world fool you in thinking sin is Ok. What God says is a sin he means and the world can’t change that.

  • I’m not harassing you. You came to a religious page which is really for religious people. You came after me. you didn’t have to. you could of easily walked away but I will defend God and the Bible.

  • Please stop harassing me–FIFTH request. Please stop posting anti-gay Hate Speech meant to demean, demonize and dehumanize LGBT Americans. There is NO valid comparison between loving, committed same gender married American couples and “liars, thieves, fornicators, adulterers and blasphemers.” Your filth you post will never advance your failed anti-gay political agenda.

  • You are harassing me. You are posting anti-gay Hate Speech meant to harass all LGBT Americans. This website is for religious news, but it is NOT only for anti-gays who pretend religion is their excuse for attacking LGBT Americans. There are exclusively anti-gay websites where you can be assured no normal, non-homophobic reader will be allowed to post. However, since YOU posted LIES, someone had to debunk your LIES. Don’t like being debunked? Don’t post such LIES.

  • lol you were debunked over 6000 years ago lol right at creation when God created Man and woman lol. I attack all sin. I don’t discriminate. please repent let go of your sexual desires its not worth going to hell over please.

  • I follow Christ he said to repent and turn from your sins and put your faith in him to save you from the wrath of God on judgment day. Were not promised another day or even another second. After we die comes judgment we don’t get a second chance at heaven when we die.

  • stop replying to my comments then. You came here trying to debate me this is what you get. Get right with God please

  • ““There is absolutely no conflict with accepting who I am and following Jesus,” he said. “God wants me to be healthy, authentic, whole, integrated and my truest self.” Yes Jesus does and you are not following Him if you are participating in homosexual sex.

    1 John 2:19 New International Version
    They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.

    1 John 3: 7 Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

    You can repent and become a Christian, or you can remain a Heathen fooling only yourself – and unfortunately your children also. You want them to go to Heaven, set an example and become a Christian. That would make you healthy, whole and authentic.

  • I posted here long before you came and started posting anti-gay Hate Speech and LIES about Jesus. Please stop harassing me. Please stop telling lies about me. No, I will NOT join your Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kansas. NO, I will NOT give Maggie Phelps-Roper my earnings.

  • Anti-gays are LYING when they claim, “Jesus was homophobic.” Anti-gays post all sorts of unassociated quotes, but never tell us just where the Bible says Jesus said, “Go hurt loving, committed same gender couples.” We know anti-gays are LYING because the Bible says Jesus affirmed a gay couple. Read Matthew 8:5-13 and Luke 7:1-10. This is the Gospel story where Jesus healed the servant of a Roman centurion. In the original Greek, the word that the Roman centurion uses in this passage to describe the sick man – pais – is the same word used in ancient Greek to refer to a same-gender partner.

    Of course, anti-gays won’t agree with that translation. However, modern Biblical scholars have proven the Bible was intentionally mistranslated in order to provide “Biblical cover” for then-rising levels of homophobia. For example, the word “homosexual” didn’t even exist until 1870. Many major Christian and Jewish denominations condemn misusing the hate-based mistranslations to attack their fellow Americans and are marrying same gender American couples now. About 400 years ago, a group of religious authorities (sanctioned by King James I of England), secretly manipulated the English version of the Bible to reflect their own heterosexual attitude; they opposed the King kissing other men in public.

  • science hasn’t proved anything. It’s a sin problem. God can change you. please repent

  • Trey, I am a bisexual pastor serving God and God’s people and living authentically into the queer identity God gave me. I admire and respect your courage and truthtelling. Though some–even those you care about–may try to tear you down, know that you’re not alone. You are surrounded by the love and well-wishes of other Christians who embrace you as you are, even many of us who don’t know you. Keeping living into the beautiful, authentic soul God gave you. Peace to you.

  • You posted a personal attack. It’s too late to worm out of it. Why don’t you put your energy into finding out what the ex-wife actually says?

  • That’s a LIE. Sexual orientation, whether gay, bisexual or non-gay, has been shown by science to be inborn and unchangeable as is race, and psychologists have shown being gay or lesbian is just as healthy and “normal” as being non-gay. The US Supreme Court, several US federal and several US State Supreme Courts have examined that evidence and ruled that discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation is similarly unconstitutional as discrimination based on race because BOTH are IMMUTABLE characteristics. A quick look on any search engine on the phrase “Physiological Basis of Homosexuality” turns up over 26,000 articles, the vast majority supporting the biological basis of same sex attraction, but NONE of them have any PROOF for the wild claim anti-gays make that “it’s a choice.” Here are just 18 of tens of thousands of respected websites (and a citation from Fox News for the doubters) that document this:

    http://www-news dot uchicago dot edu/releases/03/differential-brain-activation dot pdf
    http://www dot new scientist dot com/channel/sex/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex dot html
    http://www dot foxiness dot com/story/0,2933,155990,00 dot html
    http://www dot live science dot com/health/060224_gay_genes dot html
    http://www dot springerlink dot com/content/w27453600k586276/
    http://blogs dot discovermagazine dot com/80beats/2008/06/16/172/
    http://articles dot lattices dot com/2008/jun/17/science/sci-gaybrain17
    http://psych dot fullerton dot edu/rlippa/bbc_birthorder dot htm
    http://www dot economist dot com/science/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12465295
    http://www dot abc dot ca/health/story/2006/06/26/brothers=gay dot html
    http://www dot medpagetoday dot com/OBGYN/Pregnancy/3641
    http://www dot sciencedaily dot com/releases/2008/06/080617151845 dot htm
    http://abclocal dot go dot com/kgo/story?section=news/local&id=6209976
    http://www dot apa dot org/topics/sorientation dot html
    http://www dot independent dot co dot uk/news/world/americas/male-homosexuality-influenced-by-genes-us-study-finds-9127683 dot html
    http://borngay dot proton dot org/view dot resource dot php?resourceID=000006
    http://www dot abc dot com/news/magazine-26089486
    http://www dot nbcnews dot com/health/sexual-health/researchers-say-gene-changes-show-whos-gay-n441211

  • There is also evidence that sexual orientation CANNOT BE CHANGED. Here’s what the EXPERTS say:

    “In a resolution adopted on a 125-to-4 vote by the APA’s governing council, and in a comprehensive report based on two years of research, the 150,000-member association put itself firmly on record in opposition of so-called “reparative therapy” which seeks to change sexual orientation.

    No solid evidence exists that such change is likely, says the report, and some research suggests that efforts to produce change could be harmful, inducing depression and suicidal tendencies.”

    http://abcnews dot go dot com/US/wireStory?id=8261359

  • There is NO SUCH THING as “ex-gay”:

    “Last week, John Smid, the former director of Love in Action, the country’s oldest and largest ex-gay ministry, acknowledged on his blog that, contrary to the claims of the movement he represented for decades, gay people cannot become straight. “I’ve never met a man who experienced a change from homosexual to heterosexual,” he wrote. He himself certainly has not.”

    Smid, who resigned from Love in Action in 2008, was just the latest ex-gay luminary to leave the movement, either voluntarily or in a cloud of scandal. His break with ex-gay orthodoxy is a sign that, even in the evangelical world, the notion that sexual orientation can be altered is increasingly crumbling in the face of reality. Evangelicals used to insist that “change is possible,” says Warren Throckmorton, a Grove City College psychology professor once associated with the ex-gay movement. “The new paradigm, I believe, is no, it doesn’t look like that works, and so you go with it, you accept it, and you try to make the best life you can in congruence with the rest of your beliefs,” he says.”

    http://www dot thedailybeast dot com/articles/2011/10/13/ex-gay-leader-john-smid-s-about-face dot html

  • Translation: “The Bible is the word of God because it says so in the Bible”.

    Right. Got it. Thanks.

  • You say there is no such thing as a gay Christian. There are a huge number of gay Christians who would dispute that. There is an even huger number of individuals, ministers, churches, and entire denominations that would dispute your claim.

    Yet another person who isn’t God who knows that status of the relationship between God and any other person on the planet, as if God would confide in the likes of you that information.

    And yet another Christian who is ready to tell other Christians that they aren’t true Christians.

  • Even the anti-gays themselves that cooked up this lie, “ex-gay,” now admit it was nothing more than a con:

    http://www dot latimes dot com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-exodus-ministry-to-shut-down-20130619,0,2132827 dot story

    “A controversial Christian ministry devoted to changing people “affected by homosexuality” announced Wednesday night that it was shutting its doors after operating for more than three decades.

    The announcement by Exodus International came during its religious conference in Irvine and after its President Alan Chambers apologized to members of the gay community for “years of undue judgment by the organization and the Christian Church as a whole,” the Florida-based ministry said in a statement.

    “I am sorry I didn’t stand up to people publicly ‘on my side’ who called you names…. I am sorry I have communicated that you and your families are less than me and mine,” Chambers said in his apology.

    “More than anything, I am sorry that so many have interpreted this religious rejection by Christians as God’s rejection. I am profoundly sorry that many have walked away from their faith and that some have chosen to end their lives.”

    Chambers said in a statement that the organization’s directors voted to shut down Exodus and start a new ministry that would would work with other churches to create “safe, welcoming and mutually transforming communities.”

  • Also divorced people, Jews, Muslims, the wrong, kind of Christians, Buddhists, drunks, revilers, slanderers, people who bear false witNess, people who bar the gates of heaven to others, adulterers, formicators, people who disobey civil authorities that wee instituted by God, and and and and and and and

  • This is going to bother all the other thousands of good Christians out there who are married and pretending not to be Gay.

  • We have evidence which suggests why anti-gays are so very, very angry about happy, open LGBT Americans, because:

    “Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.”

    http://www dot landman-psychology dot Com/Homophobia%20Associated%20with%20Homosexual%20Arousal dot pdf

    http://psycnet dot apa dot Org/journals/abn/105/3/440/

    An agency of the federal government, the National Institutes of Health, publishes a supporting study:

    http://www dot ncbi dot nlm dot nih dot Gov/pubmed/8772014

    Here’s a video that illustrates that study:

    http://www dot youtube dot Com/watch?v=AEuDDvqYbVw

    How about a You-tube SONG that explains this?

    http://www dot youtube dot Com/watch?v=1CQg9f7z9eg&feature=youtube

  • Let’s explain that another way, how about all the well-known anti-gays who have been caught doing themselves what they condemn or falsely accuse LGBT Americans of doing?

    Josh Duggar, Caleb Hesse, George Rekkers, Eddie Long, Troy King, Richard Curtis, Ted Haggard, Glenn Murphy, David Dreier, Bruce Barclay, Roy Ashburn, Jim West, Larry Craig, Ed Schrock, Roberto Arango, Steve Wiles, Robert Allen, Mark Foley and Phillip Hinkle, Albert Odulele, Christopher Lee, Paul Babeu, Randy Boehning, Matthew Makela, Tullian Tchividjian, Jud McMillin, Jim Collins, Dave Reynolds

  • “great christian rock” is an oxymoron.

    and you really used Newsboys as an example??

  • Of course gay people can be and are Christians. The question which this article glaringly left unanswered is, “Celibate, or not?”

    Another interesting factor is that Trey conveniently waited to reveal his courageous secret until his Christian dupes had purchased 250,000 of his albums. Oops.

    Cue the hate in 3, 2, 1…

  • A liar, a cheat, and a coveter is still a liar, a cheat, and a coveter, even if they quit doing those things.

  • “The question […] is, “Celibate, or not?”

    This article didn’t need to answer that question. These denominations answered it by marrying same gender couples: Affirming Pentecostal Church International, Alliance of Christian Churches, Anointed Affirming Independent Ministries, The Association of Welcoming and Affirming Baptists, Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), Community of Christ, Conservative Judaism, Ecumenical Catholic Church, Ecumenical Catholic Communion, The Episcopal Church, Evangelical Anglican Church In America, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Global Alliance of Affirming Apostolic Pentecostals, Inclusive Orthodox Church, Moravian Church Northern Province, Metropolitan Community Church, Old Catholic Church, Presbyterian Church USA, Progressive Christian Alliance, Reconciling Pentecostals International, Reconstructionist Judaism, Reform Judaism, Reformed Anglican Catholic Church, Religious Society of Friends (Quakers), Unitarian Universalist Church, United Church of Christ, Unity Church

  • I am a serial fornicator. It’s my favorite sin. I was born that way. It’s my identity. But I don’t live a life “without love and fulfillment” simply because I choose not to run around practicing my favorite sin.

    It says a lot about the unfulfilled emptiness experienced in this world when the source of “love and fulfillment” is found exclusively in how we have sex. No wonder the world is so messed up.

  • Please don’t compare loving, committed same gender married American couples to your own fetishes. Americans know marriage equality is NOT “all about gay sex,” despite anti-gays telling us that “gay sex” is all they ever think about. Americans know this because we saw same gender American couples who had been together 20-30-40 years being at last able to protect each other through legal marriage. Americans saw senior citizen same gender couples marrying in senior citizen assisted living centers.

  • You say anti-gays will hate him because going forward he will be happy? Yes, we discussed just why anti-gays are enraged at seeing LGBT Americans happy and fulfilled directly below.

  • Being gay is not a deal breaker. He’s born that way and can’t help that. However is he going to be a sexually active homosexual? That is a question Trey needs to answer for the many Christian fans who forked over money for a product that wasn’t as advertised.

    It is irrelevant what the heretical congregations listed above choose to do. I choose not to jump into the abyss with them.

  • Yes I know. But he had that brief period when he went Christian. It was not one of his more creatively fruitful periods.

  • I’m a Christian. I have no problem with gay people WHATSOEVER. But if you ask me do i think homosexuality is a sin? Yes, i do. Why? Because the bible says so. Stop trying to force Christians to approve of your lifestyle. For us, approving of your sin is the same thing as denying our God. I don’t care how important you think you are, most of us are not going to choose you over God. It’s simple as that. Stop trying to force other people to discard their beliefs because YOU don’t agree. I’m sure you don’t like it when Christians call you names for being gay. So why is it okay for LGBT people to go around calling Christians names like “bigot” and “hateful”? It’s the exact same shoe on the other foot. The LGBT community is doing the exact thing they are decrying. But in reality, it’s not the same. A Christian will tell you homosexuality is a sin for one reason: because God said so in the bible. But a LGBT person will turn around and call that same Christian a bigot…..when all they did was stick up for what God said. It’s actually really sad because the number one thing that motivates a Christian to stand firm on biblical truth is love for our neighbor.
    Either way the OP is right. You can’t be Christian and gay. After you receive the new birth and the Holy Spirit comes to dwell in you, you will repent from pretty much all forms of sin, including homosexuality. If you are choosing sexual pleasure over a relationship with God, there is something amiss with your salvation. After you come to know Christ, you will desire to be free from all sin. Sin will make you feel guilty, and you will repent. Conviction of sin is one of the operations of the Holy Spirit. So like i said, you can’t be Christian and gay.

  • It’s amazing how “Christians” think that living an inauthentic life is somehow more acceptable to God than living a life that it true to the way God created them.

    Good for this guy that he finally came to that conclusion. It’s heartbreaking that he ever felt he had to be something he’s not. It’s why more and more people are leaving Christianity behind, and rightly so. The superstitions of cavemen have no place in an educated society.

  • Your obsession with the private lives of LGBT Americans is inappropriate at best. There’s simply no comparison between your stated sexual obsession and loving, committed same gender American married couples.

  • Please note that “Rocks” told us he spends a great deal “practicing heterosexuality” below.

  • “[T]he major new survey of more than 35,000 Americans by the Pew Research Center finds that the percentage of adults (ages 18 and older) who describe themselves as Christians has dropped by nearly eight percentage points in just seven years, from 78.4% in an equally massive Pew Research survey in 2007 to 70.6% in 2014. Over the same period, the percentage of Americans who are religiously unaffiliated – describing themselves as atheist, agnostic or “nothing in particular” – has jumped more than six points, from 16.1% to 22.8%.”

    http://www dot pewforum dot org/2015/05/12/americas-changing-religious-landscape/

  • And from this very website:

    “Among those who say they left their childhood religion and now have no religious identity, nearly one in four (24 percent) say their church’s negative teachings or treatment of LGBT people was an important reason they left. That rises to 31 percent of millennials, damaging churches’ ability to bring in — and keep — young adults”

    http://www dot religionnews dot com/2014/02/26/gay-marriage-lgbt-prri-pew-religion/

  • No one has to “force” American Christians to support their family members, friends, neighbors and coworkers who are LGBT:

    “More than six in ten (62 percent) white mainline Protestants support same-sex marriage. Among white mainline Protestant denominations, support ranges from 69 percent support among white mainline Presbyterians and 68 percent among both white Episcopalians and white Congregationalists/United Church of Christ members, to lower support among white mainline Baptists (53 percent) and white mainline Church of Christ/Disciples (50 percent).

    And while the Catholic Church officially opposes the legalization of same-sex marriage, about six in ten white (61 percent), Hispanic (60 percent), and other non-white Catholics (60 percent) support allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry legally. A majority of orthodox Christians (56 percent) also support same-sex marriage.

    The most supportive major religious groups are Buddhists (84 percent), Jews (77 percent), and Americans who select “Other religion” (75 percent); additionally, more than three-quarters (77 percent) of the religiously unaffiliated also support same-sex marriage.”

    http://publicreligion dot org/2015/04/attitudes-on-same-sex-marriage-by-religious-affiliation-and-denominational-family/# dot VbUcrRNVhBe

  • “So why is it okay for LGBT people to go around calling Christians names like “bigot” and “hateful”?”

    That’s a LIE. Please stop trying to drag all American Christians down in the dirt with immoral, disloyal anti-gays.

    However, Americans have good reason to identify anti-gays as bigots and hateful, since the US Supreme Court affirmed just that by stating animus–HATRED–was the ONLY reason for the 32 anti-gay Hate Votes that denied LGBT Americans their Constitutionally protected right to legal marriage.

  • Trey, you are amazing! God bless you! I am SO PROUD OF YOU!!! You have risked so much. Your faithfulness is astounding.

  • I didn’t know that. Thanks. I’m a more Mozart and Gershwin and Porter kinda guy.

  • So you are a thin skinned bigot who has trouble understanding the concept of treating people like human beings. Like many who lack a spine, you use religion to justify your personal prejudices rather than take responsibility for them. Your biggest complaint is your prejudice is losing social acceptance. Boo hoo.

  • All true! This is why I post that anti-gays are pursuing a political agenda, and are just hiding their overarching hatred and fear of LGBT Americans behind the skirts of “religion” so as to avoid taxation and public scrutiny.

  • Far better than nosybodies like yourself. If god is worthy of worship he is not a hateful bigot.

  • You don’t have to do that, psychologists from the National Institutes of Health led by Dr. Evelyn H**ker determined that in 1953, publishing their findings in the Journal of the National Institutes of Health that year.

  • It says an awful lot of about so called Christians who reduce being gay to having sex, but would be outraged is heterosexuality was reduced to having sex.

    It says an awful lot about so called Christians who admit to being serial fornicators, and equate that to gay people who are not serial fornicators, but are trying to live their lives authentically, as they are made.

    It says an awful lot about heterosexual Christians who admit to being serial fornicators, announce its their favorite sin, and then are perfectly happy to announce how Jesus will always forgive them because they have seriously asked him for forgiveness for their favorite sin that they clearly have no intention of repenting for.

  • Yet more accurately, please excuse me, IF he spends his time “practicing heterosexuality” Please note below the documentation I posted that explains why anti-gays typically express an obsession with what loving, committed same gender American married couples do in the privacy of their homes.

  • Um. Okay, let me be a little more clear. I have repented of my serial fornication and I no longer do that.

    Does that say an awful lot?

    Also, re-read the thread. You are reducing being gay to having sex. I am not.

  • Spare us your desperate attempts to “project” your own obsessions onto your intended LGBT victims.

  • Why should anyone believe you? Readers here have caught you in lie after lie after lie.

  • I am not seeking your belief or approval but I find it impossible to have a conversation with you. Have a nice evening.

  • You didn’t come here for a conversation, you came here to try to demean, demonize and dehumanize LGBT Americans, but the only one you dehumanized was yourself. If you don’t like normal, non-homophobic Americans laughing at and debunking your lies, don’t post them here.

  • And as it says in the Gospel, “Do not judge or you will be judged. Do not condemn or you will be condemned.”

  • You’re correct. His agenda is political, not religious. What’s ironic is the institutionalized homophobia of the “Gay Obsessed Party” is a major contribution to its collapse.

  • I am harmed by homophobia spiritually and mentally, but I don’t call it a mental disorder. Whenever I can, I try to love my enemies.

  • Tell it to God when the opportunity arises (and someday it will.) Good luck with your final destiny, and be sure to pack an air conditioner !

  • I’m sorry, maybe you didn’t understand my post. I have no problem WHATSOEVER with any gay person. I don’t hate anyone, especially gay people. I have no respect of persons and treat everyone equally. What i have a problem with, is EXACTLY what you just did. Calling me a bigot and hateful because i stick with God and say homosexuality is a sin. Maybe you didn’t read the part where i explained to you that to deny what God has said in the bible is the same thing as denying God. I shouldn’t have to explain this to you, but saying that homosexuality is a sin DOES NOT mean i hate anyone. As soon as a Christian stands up for what they believe, you start hurling words like “hateful” and “bigot”. You say that I’m “anti-gay” because i tell you what the bible says? When i have said anything hateful OR bigoted?

    Like i said, i have absolutely no problem with gay people. I don’t hate anyone. When i tell you things like “homosexuality is a sin” its because i believe that the bible is the Word of God, and that’s what it says in the bible. I will continue to stand firm in the truth of the bible out of love for my fellow man, not out of hate. I believe that the bible is the infallible means by which our loving Creator has chosen to reveal himself to mankind, and out of love for him and all of mankind i will remain firm in the truth of scripture. You want everyone to agree with you and bend to your will and tell you it’s okay to sin. The bible has been around for thousands of years, and it will be with us until the end, and no matter what you say or do it will always say the same thing about homosexuality.

    Either way, i wish you both the best. I pray that God blesses you abundantly with health and security and purpose.

  • You clearly know nothing about sexual orientation, which is only tangentially connected with “How [gay people] have sex.”

  • Wow! I am so impressed by Trey’s integrity and honesty. Way to be an authentic Christian! It’s what Jesus would do!

  • Would you believe my first impression of Cole Porter came from Blazing Saddles. When the railroad workers break out in “I Get A Kick Out of You”. After laughing my behind off, I sought out his songs from my parent’s record collection. My parents had very eclectic tastes in music.

  • If God has malicious troglodytes such as yourself as his voice, it speaks,badly for his taste in people. Probably a good sign of being unworthy of worship.

  • Superstition is not a synonym for a faith.

    A self=proclaimed educated person should know that.

  • As someone who actually owns some of his albums, I’m a little surprised but pretty damn happy for the guy. I wish him all the best!

  • Obadiah – you maintain that someone cannot be a practicing homosexual and be a Christian…despite the fact Jesus Christ was completely mute on the issue. I can only assume you draw your conclusion from readings contained in the Old Testament. After all, according to some (misinformed) interpretations of the Bible, Leviticus contains versus against homosexuality. So, using that as a basis, you can’t be a Christian if you eat pork. You cannot be Christian if you wear mixed fibers. You cannot pick and choose which verses of the bible you are going to lift out of context and framing to leverage to decry others’ behaviors, without also condemning yourself. Incidentally, I don’t judge you for your opinion, I am merely pointing out the flaw in your logic. It is time to stop using a document whose writings span some 3700 years, and hasn’t been changed in almost 2000 years, to bolster and hold onto a completely outdated and archaic notion. After all, divorce is now accepted, eating pork is now accepted, and people give no thought to wearing mixed fibers–in fact, they don’t even repent of their sin and go forward to sin no more. Stop hiding behind the bible as a shield to your bigotry and ignorance. Instead develop the loving heart Christ commands you to possess.

  • Jonathan Merritt — Thank you for finally publishing an article that people can comment to — especially since the subject is such an important one to our shared American culture right now.
    > [June 3 update: 1434 comments — Thanks again, Jonathan!]

    Trey Pearson — That is an admirable letter about a very courageous action. What you’ve written is a gift to everyone, and a precious gift at that. I hope people will hear your heart, too.

  • “Celibate, or not” is your focus? Are you also focused on the sin of adultery committed by all who do not get divorced in accordance with the rules prescribed in the bible? After all, divorce is only permissible IF one is divorcing another because they are a non-believer, or because they have committed adultery. If neither of the individuals has committed adultery, and both are Christians, then divorce is not acceptable. If that couple divorces, and then remarries, even having forgone premarital sex, they still commit adultery, because in God’s eyes (according to biblical law) the two are still in their first marriage. Every act of homosexuality addressed in the Old Testament was addressed as God having given men over to unnatural acts of being with other men for disobedience. Had a homosexual been in the mix, God would have given him over to having sex with a woman…that would have been the punishment for his disobedience. But the question is not “Celibate, or not.” If a same sex couple comply with the same rules as straight couples, and marry (establish a covenant relationship) they commit no more sin that does the straight couple. Ok, cue your venom and hatred, but that makes this no less true. Bless you…

  • Actually Mr. Jacks, you are wholly inaccurate in your assessment, categorizing the homosexual with these other supposed shortcomings. All the conditions you listed, aside from homosexuality, are chosen behaviors. Being a homosexual is not chosen. And, a homosexual acting on his/her desire is no more a sin than a heterosexual acting upon their desire–so long as it is a covenant relationship. A homosexual who has sex outside a covenant relationship is no more/less guilty of sin than are other Christians. And is also held to the same standard within a covenant relationship. Reframe your discussion within those parameters, and discourse can be civil. Fail to do so, and you are guilty of judging individuals from your pious and acrimonious position. And in that regard, you too should be concerned about God’s judgment/wrath. Blessings!

  • I am a Christian. I love the Lord with all my heart, mind, and soul and believe the bible is the inherent word of God. With that said, I love ALL despite their lifestyle choice. Do I believe that God loves us all: without a doubt, yes. But things we do separate us from God. I say we because we are all sinners. I’m no different from anyone else. It’s hard for me to classify the LGBT community as a separate entity because I don’t see them as any different from myself. We’re all people, really. And everyone despite who they are, how they look, or the choices they make should be treated with dignity and respect. I respect Trey for being open about his feelings. I have no idea what that took for him to come out like he did. And I don’t think anyone who feels this way should live a lie or hide it. I will never know what it’s like to be in the shoes of someone who has strong same sex desires and feel as though he or she will be treated horribly because of it. I will never know what that’s like. And I’m so sorry for people who feel this way. But I believe that the God who created us all does understand. He knows the battles we face everyday. He knows the temptations we deal with at night. How we may hide and even the depression and anxiety these battles cause. I’m no better than anyone here. But it’s because I’m nothing that I need someone greater. I need Jesus and I can only in my meager attempt to understand (cause I never will) point others towards Him as well. God bless.

  • Yes, anti-gays demonstrate how contemptible they are by expressing such hatred for someone they don’t know and who has never done anti-gays any harm.

  • Hogwash, it’s the anti-gays who are so obsessed with something that is clearly none of their business, as anyone can see below.

    Stop trying to “project” the misdeeds of anti-gays onto your intended LGBT victims. No one is fooled by such an obvious LIE.

  • If you want more respect for your faith, get the anti-gays to stop taking a free ride on it. Anti-gays are the one dragging it down.

  • That’s a LIE. Jesus NEVER told His followers to attack loving, committed same gender couples. In fact, Jesus affirmed a gay couple. Read Matthew 8:5-13 and Luke 7:1-10. This is the Gospel story where Jesus healed the servant of a Roman centurion. In the original Greek, the word that the Roman centurion uses in this passage to describe the sick man – pais – is the same word used in ancient Greek to refer to a same-gender partner.

  • That’s the Old Testament. Anti-gays quote the Old Testament because they know Jesus NEVER told His followers to attack loving, committed same gender couples.

    Fortunately, most American Christians reject and condemn attacking LGBT Americans. These denominations will marry same gender couples: Affirming Pentecostal Church International, Alliance of Christian Churches, Anointed Affirming Independent Ministries, The Association of Welcoming and Affirming Baptists, Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), Community of Christ, Conservative Judaism, Ecumenical Catholic Church, Ecumenical Catholic Communion, The Episcopal Church, Evangelical Anglican Church In America, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Global Alliance of Affirming Apostolic Pentecostals, Inclusive Orthodox Church, Moravian Church Northern Province, Metropolitan Community Church, Old Catholic Church, Presbyterian Church USA, Progressive Christian Alliance, Reconciling Pentecostals International, Reconstructionist Judaism, Reform Judaism, Reformed Anglican Catholic Church, Religious Society of Friends (Quakers), Unitarian Universalist Church, United Church of Christ, Unity Church

  • The more anti-gays shriek how much they want to hurt this man and all LGBT Americans, the more each and every normal, non-homophobic American recoils from the anti-gays’ ceaseless attacks.

  • Anti-gays make a big, big mistake by shrieking, “they shall surely be put to death!” about LGBT Americans. We already know anti-gays seek to commit genocide against LGBT Americans because the anti-gays themselves tell us that. Cruz had two speakers at his rallies that called for genocide against LGBT Americans, Iowa pastor Kevin Swanson, and “Duck Dynasty” Phil Robertson, who also said he wants to “remove from the earth” anyone who supports Equal Protection Under the Law for LGBT Americans.

  • You don’t accept any part of the Bible that shows how you are LYING. If you don’t want me to remind readers of your lies, stop spamming this board with those lies.

  • Please stop LYING about Jesus. The hate speech you quoted is NOT the words of Jesus, but of a disturbed misogynist who never met Jesus.

  • Anti-gays do spend an awful lot of time telling us they are obsessed with “gay sex.”

  • Your Bible is LYING. You are the one who wants to murder LGBT Americans. I’ve already posted the names of just two anti-gays who claim “God” wants them to commit murder. Just keep telling us how excited you get fantasizing about murdering LGBT Americans.

    Just remember the police will read your threats. They will not fall for the “God told me to murder them” routine.

  • Well, guess the ‘judge not lest ye be judged’ folks will be calling for his eternal damnation in a firey pit or wherever they send the evil sinners. Too bad about that woman he married and his kids though. Guess the lord decided he should be selfish and live a lie no matter who was hurt.
    I don’t care if someone prays to a rock as long as they’re a good person. But as a secure straight man it sickens me that some feel they need to go to the lengths this man did just to appease others.
    Love thy neighbor, right? The biggest load of nonsense there is. Give me an atheist any day of the week. They walk the walk.

  • If you don’t like my identifying you desire to murder LGBT Americans, don’t post that filth here. A majority of American Christians reject your lies. And your anti-gay agenda is about to finish off your “Gay Obsessed Party” once and for all.

  • No, anti-gay poster, I got you loud and clear. You’ve spammed this board with the same old anti-gay lies we’ve all debunked before.

  • It’s loving by warning anti-gays of their mental disorder, because with that information they can seek counseling and be cured of their homophobia.

  • You posted threats. Anti-gays typically lie when caught. No one is fooled by your lies. Please seek psychiatric care for your mental disorder. Homophobia can be cured if you will only admit your problem.

  • Since an anti-gay poster who posted death threats toward LGBT Americans is now denying his death threats, it’s relevant to document how many LGBT Americans died in vicious anti-gay Hate Crimes in the year 2013 alone:

    http://www dot fbi dot gov/news/stories/2014/december/latest-hate-crime-statistics-report-released/latest-hate-crime-statistics-report-released

  • Still denying you posted death threats? Better go delete your filth. However, I have posted PROOF of the murderous intent of anti-gays above.

  • Please report to this website as well as to Disqus the death threats below. Thank you.

  • Please report the death threats made by that poster below both to this website as well as to Disqus.

  • Please be sure to write, “Death threats to LGBT Americans” in your reports. Thank you.

  • Meh this is a non story for me. I’m sure it is a major story for him though. I never came out. I just was who was I didn’t need to advertise it or assert it to validate my own self-worth in this area. But then again the 90s seemed to be much more pen about these things then the 00s and teens have come to be in terms of the discourse. And didn’t really have internet communities to confide in and find solace, certainly our elders didn’t. I guess the internet has just showcased the vast numbers of varying opinions on the subject from nutjobs to empaths.

    Coming out to me feels like an big old attention grab to get some spotlight. As I said I never felt the need for it but that’s just me. I am glad he finally came accepted himself because that doesn’t nobody any good living a lie, ESPECIALLY for this god or any other god.

  • Trey Pearson is a brave and honest man. He and his family should be given every support. I am sure that his statement about his sexuality will assist many young people who are conflicted about their sexual feelings. I hope that his fears about his career will be unfounded and that his family relationships will remain positive. This cannot be an easy time for any of them.

  • I always say, “Gay makes life a little more interesting.” Welcome to a more interesting life.

  • Please join me in reporting these death threats both to this website as well as Disqus.

  • Well…why would a Gay man want to lie with a man as with a woman?

    In any case, I think the verse is referring to an ancient fertility cult ritual where a man would lie with a cross dressing priest, who would help, uh…facilitate the man’s “seed sacrifice” and accept it for the god.

  • Jesus is the word of God. Jesus wrote Romans 1 2 people of the same sex lieing together is unatural and god will give them up to their lust. Jesus touched me like fire and electricity.Satan is a liar.

  • The only way we can help the enraged, defeated anti-gay poster who is making death threats is to report his misdeeds. Hopefully the court will order him to have psychiatric treatment. As we know, anti-gays do commit vicious Hate Crimes against LGBT Americans:

    http://www dot fbi dot gov/news/stories/2014/december/latest-hate-crime-statistics-report-released/latest-hate-crime-statistics-report-released

  • The historical and intratextual contexts around your favorite, and in your hands, hateful and advocacy of genocide, clobber verse says: You don’t know how to read the Bible with good will and love of neighbor.

  • It would still be news, but mildly interesting news.

    It takes tremendous courage for a person from a conservative Evangelical background to stop being invisible, to stop being silent, to stop being complicit because of your silence and invisibility, in your own oppression.

  • Americans recoiled in horror when failed GOP candidate Cruz had two anti-gays make speeches at his rallies demanding genocide against LGBT Americans. Iowa Pastor Kevin Swanson wants all LGBT Americans rounded up and murdered; “Duck Dynasty” Phil Robertson also wants to remove Americans who support Equal Protection Under the Law for LGBT Americans to be “removed from the earth.” Death threats from anonymous anti-gay posters here should be treated seriously and reported to the proper authorities.

  • Failed GOP candidate Ben Carson also made death threats when he urged anti-gay bakers to murder not only same gender couples by poisoning their cakes, but also their relatives, friends, neighbors and coworkers who attend their weddings:

    “What I have a problem with is when people try to force people to act against their beliefs because they say ‘they’re discriminating against me.’ So they can go right down the street and buy a cake, but no, let’s bring a suit against this person because I want them to make my cake even though they don’t believe in it. Which is really not all that smart because they might put poison in that cake,” he said to chuckles from some of his staff and dead silence from the journalists in the room.

    http://thehill dot com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/230632-ben-carson-pulls-crowd-to-its-feet-in-iowa

  • Does the anti-gay Poster really think revealing his obsession with murdering LGBT Americans will advance his failed anti-gay political agenda?

    We know the vast majority of Americans reject and condemn the anti-gay agenda:

    “Americans are angry about society’s mistreatment of LGBT people, and not about same-sex marriage, according to a widely publicized new poll from Esquire Magazine and NBC News that attempts to gauge anger in the US.

    According to the survey, titled “American Rage,” only 22 percent of respondents said they’d be very angry or somewhat angry about a hypothetical headline reading, “More Than 100,000 Couples Have Wed Since Supreme Court Ruling.”

    Meanwhile, 41 percent said they believe LGBT people have a right to be angry about how they’re treated, 45 percent said they’re angry themselves about how LGBT people are treated, and only 24 percent said they supported Kentucky clerk Kim Davis and her refusal to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

    Those results led The Washington Post to call LGBT equality “the social-justice issue that garnered the most agreement” in the wide-ranging survey, beating out African-American, immigrants’ and women’s rights.”

    http://wwwdot thenewcivilrightsmovement dot com/johnwright/poll_americans_angry_about_mistreatment_of_lgbt_people_not_same_sex_marriage

  • You don’t want him reminding normal, non-homophobic readers that anti-gays seek to commit genocide against LGBT Americans, huh?

  • I understand that anti-gays are disturbed individuals, but that doesn’t mean that every normal, non-homophobic American needs to accommodate their sickening desire to hurt LGBT Americans. While anti-gays have every right to envelope themselves in their swirling vortex of homophobia, they have NO right to misuse their mental disorder to force their nasty desires onto other Americans.

  • When we examine the posts of anti-gays to seek a greater understanding of their mental disorder, homophobia, we note certain tendencies. Most anti-gays have built up an elaborate set of fantasies, such as that their tiny numbers are somehow “the majority.” When presented with the simple fact that a strong majority of Americans reject their demands to hurt and vilify LGBT Americans, anti-gays show they simply cannot accept any facts that contradict their deep-seated phobia and hatred for their fellow Americans who are LGBT. We see that particular symptom, cognitive dissonance, most often in the constant denials by homophobes that homophobia even exists, even after, for example, documenting that Freud referred to homophobia. However, the evidence below clearly demonstrates those who have that mental disorder can be dangerous.

  • Because somebody told you so?

    Do your own research and quit trying to convince yourself that you’re correct because that is what you’ve been told.

    You’re intellectually lazy. You only research things that make you feel good about your own choices. The real world is mocking you.

  • Psychologists identified homophobia as a mental illness and published their results in the Journal of the National Institutes of Health in 1953. Homophobia is the irrational fear, disgust, or hatred of gays, lesbians, and/or bisexual people, or of homosexual feelings in oneself. It refers to the discomfort one feels with any behavior, belief, or attitude (in self or others) that does not conform to traditional sex role stereotypes. Homophobia exhibits itself in the fear of knowing, befriending, or associating with gays, lesbians, or bisexual people; fear of being perceived as gay or lesbian; and/or fear of stepping out of accepted gender role behavior. Those afflicted with homophobia have been known to be violent; many such persons express a desire to commit genocide against LGBT Americans. Psychologists report that the most commonly observed symptom of the mental disorder homophobia is cognitive dissonance, an inability of those so afflicted to accept documentation that contradicts their deep-seated phobia and hatred of LGBT Americans.

  • Carrotcake, please stop your jihad against me. I deplore Joe’s comment as much as you do.

  • During the disturbing anti-gay Hate Votes, anti-gays were able to force television stations to run vicious anti-gay Hate Speech as political advertizing. By deluging the airwaves with Hate Speech meant to demean, demonize and dehumanize LGBT Americans, anti-gays were able to fool Americans into voting to subvert the United States Constitution. Here are several examples of the attack ads anti-gays forced upon Americans:

    https://www dot youtube dot com/watch?v=GojsuPBkWA8

  • What he really meant, “I was afraid of what bigots want God to think before I realized that they had made God in their image.”

  • Paul wasn’t Jesus. In fact, Paul didn’t seem to have much to say about Jesus’ life, just how his death and resurrection had proven his fellow Pharisees’ eschatology.

    And, I see that you haven’t read Romans 2 yet.

  • Yes. Apparently, they think that being a devout Christian’s primary devotion consists of scavenging the Bible for clobber verses which privilege themselves at the expense of everyone else.

  • I hope the late Mr. Milk has some good advice for this nation, when it accidentally crashes head-on into catastrophic divine judgment. Given America’s current speed and trajectory, it honestly shouldn’t take too long to get there.

  • Unfortunately, conservative American Evangelicals have a long history of disparaging minority relationships as just being about gratifying sinful lusts.

    Just ask any older person who had been accused of advocating the “unnatural sin of miscegenation Acts 17:26 blah blah blah.”

  • I’ve been told that before, only it was about my assumed to be interracial relationship back in the early 1970s. (I was giving a friendly classmate a ride home while her car was being fixed.)

    Nobody had told me until then that “miscegenation” was an unnatural sin like incest…one that would lead to legalized pederasty and bestiality, a commie takeover and bring down God’s judgment upon America. Who knew?

    Well, when someone gives you that creepy rictus smile while trying to save your soul from everlasting torture, you know he/she is much worse than merely wrong.

  • Well, repressing your sexual orientation is changing it…just not necessarily for the better.

    When you try to be invisible and silent, you are compromising your personal integrity and are thereby complicit in your own oppression.

    That heavy load of minority stress can lead to dangerous fatalistic behaviors which likely won’t do you any good.

    Still, in way too many places in the world, being invisible and silent and internally oppressed is more immediately dangerous than internalized minority stress.

  • Well, he’s a Christian choosing to walk in sin and also an encouragement to others to do so -generally a bad idea.

  • No, the Bible doesn’t say so. Not only are you ripping clobber verses out of historical and intratextual contexts to privilege yourself and creating dangerous minority stress for others…

    But you’re also recycling old segregationist arguments which disparaged minority relationships as just about God denying sinful lusts.

    And the segregationists also said that God said so, and so should you. They had dozens of ripped out contexts clobber verses, many of them from back when conservative Evangelicals were ardent institution of slavery activists, such as Thornton Springfellow, a pastor who was one of the founders of the Southern Baptist Convention and widely read slavery apologist (and online, so you can check him out for a prime example of condescending bigotry from a once highly esteemed source.)

    Why is it OK for LGBT people to go around calling Christians bigots and hateful?

    Well, they may not know that all Christians aren’t like you. If you don’t think those terms apply to people who disparage and defame others, then I suggest that you start thinking about what you actually wrote.

    And, American history has shown that people who abuse scripture to privilege themselves at the expense of others, who disparage minority relationships as just being about fornication and gratifying sinful lust…no matter how condescendingly worded, are in fact, might as well be bigots and hateful because they sure are spreading the dangerous minority stress creating hate and bigotry around.

  • Trey’s testimony is another very important role-model-example for all to see and understand.

    All gay folk will benefit from it.

  • So, you are reducing minority relationships down to being just about sinful acts like the segregationists did when I was young…and you think you’re not being hateful?

    The Bible may be infallible, though I would argue that dubious doctrine is idolatry, bibliolatry, You, on the other hand, are presumably not God and therefore, are fallible.

    The Bible says nothing about homosexuality, a now much abused, Victorian era attempt at a taxonomy for early sexology.

    The proslavery activists of my great grandfather’s youth also used the “the bible has been around for thousands of years…” argument for not abolishing slavery….and they had far more clobber verses with which to use, and they never tired in telling that to the Abolitionists.

    The radical Abolitionists, to be honest, pretty much only had the Golden Rule, which they interpreted as “If I were a slave, I would want to be free.”

    The proslavery activists interpreted that in a self-privileging, patriarchal way that treated enslaved adults like children who needed a wise father like their masters. “If I were a slave, I would want a good master.” (and they had the historical contexts behind the 5th Commandment [4th for Catholics] to think that way, too… not to mention the two Commandments which include slaves.)

  • Well, Jesus didn’t say anything about homosexuality probably because that’s a much abused, modern era social construct which didn’t exist then.

    However, that doesn’t mean that Jesus didn’t talk favorably about a sexual minority of men who were often characterized as effeminate, and which faced discrimination from the religious powers that be because of what they were…eunuchs, some of whom were born that way. See Matthew 19.

    And, Acts 8:26-40.

    So if a law abiding sexual minority group was fine with Jesus, God’s angels and the Evangelist Phillip, a law abiding sexual minority group should be good enough to be a Christian.

    Though come to think of it, goodness in itself doesn’t seem to be good enough to meet the standards of a group, conservative Evangelicals, who have a long history of defending slavery, instituting the Bible Belt terrorist regime of Jim Crow, and claiming that God hates race mixing.

  • Gay isn’t a “lifestyle choice.” Gay is an evermore interconnected worldwide minority community that altogether, is about as populous as America. Gay is a self identity, Gay is an egalitarian movement that challenges unearned patriarchal privilege. Gay is a declaration of a certain sort of personal integrity that you don’t seem to understand.

    The Gay community draws its strength and power from minority gender relationship orientation and gender identity people, some of whom are the most oppressed people in the world. And…conservative American Evangelicals have some of the blood of dead and tortured Gay Africans on their hands, too.

    There are LGBT people in every nation, every religion, every kind of employment from prostitute to police officer, to Secretary of the Army to ambassador to priest, rabbi, pastor and imam…and every class of people from the homeless young teens cast out on the streets by their awful parents, to CEO’s, to actual princes.

    And yet to you…this very diverse group of people spanning the globe all have the same “lifestyle.”

    Right….

  • Well, when I was young, I was told that the Bible was very clear that people who committed/advocated for the “unnatural sin of miscegenation Acts 17:26,” would burn in hell unless they repented of their horrible sin.

    I’m still proudly unrepentant, and it’s been fifty years or so.

    The Bible isn’t very clear about much abused, modern era social constructs like “race” and “homosexuality.” But the Golden Rule just might give those of good will some good guidance.

    On the other hand, having studied what the proslavery activists of my great grandfathers’ youthful days wrote, those of ill will will come up with something self privileging, smarmy and condescending which presumes that minority adults should be treated like children. Something along the lines of:

    “If were a “homosexual,” I would want someone with a creepy rictus smile to condescendingly tell me that God clearly says in an obscure sort of way, that I’m an abomination (like a yummy shrimp cocktail?) and to repent or go to hell.”

    Which is of course, using the Golden Rule to deliver an extortion threat. “Do as I say or God will hurt you bad.”

  • Beef Stroganoff should repel Bible literalists like garlic does to vampires, right?.

  • He’s a “rock star”? That’s a bit of a stretch. Never heard of this guy or his band, 250k albums sold is nothing. I like how the writer described it as a quarter of a million to make it sound like it was a lot.

    Seems like a typical publicity stunt for has-beens.

  • why are there so many testimonies of God saving and changing a homosexual out of that harmful lifestyle???

  • no one saying to murder anyone. We are warning you about the wrath to come on judgment day that is all. Please repent and put your faith in Christ a lone for your salvation.

  • Jesus is the foundation of Christianity sorry you don’t like him and you love your sin more.

  • life isn’t always about being happy never was. Life isn’t about sex sorry. Life is about Jesus and to worship him is truth.

  • Oh Look….The news media reporting how a Sodomite thinks being a Sodomite, is okay with God….

  • Read the book Washed and Waiting. Great advice for Christians who say they are gay and the book is written by a life long gay person. The obligation, whether straight or gay, is to live a holy life if one is a disciple of Christ.

  • if he repented he wouldn’t be destroying his family his kids over wanting to have sex with a man

  • the truth is chose sex with man over honoring God and destroying his family. He is thinking of himself which is selfish and is breaking the 10 commandment by coveting men that God didn’t give him so he is guilty of breaking all the commandments. If you break one you are guilty of breaking them all. Other then going to hell and never being a Christian in the first which is clearly he didn’t truly repent in the first place but he put sexual desires ahead of God and family. Poor children the bad example their dad set for them. Satan is still trying to change God’s design of creation.

  • There is no Jesus in your version of Christianity. So it really has nothing to do with him. Obviously you don’t particularly like what he has to say. That is why you try so hard to work around him. Too much talk of the sins of others, not enough reflection on your own very obvious ones. Unlike your nonsense, Jesus directly addressed such acts.

  • Gay doesn’t work you can’t have kids nor will a gay person enter the kingdom of heaven

  • How do you know he wasn’t? Because the result did not turn out like you would like? Life is messy and very hard and Jesus is right there beside us every single second, but sometimes he is right down in the sticky, oooey gooky mud with us, wiping our tears and the mud out of our eyes, so that we can see again, helping us walk through it., getting muddy Himself, because He remembers His own Life. My own two kids, one is lesbian, one is bisexual, they are two of the strongest followers of Jesus you will meet in this life, and their sexual orientation that has been part of the trials of their young lives already that have lead to the shoring up of the foundations of their very strong faiths. They have been through so much, and He has never left them, or hurt them the way the world has. And as a result, they are both finding ways to love Him and to serve His Kingdom with their gifts, and not tear down others with their judgement, which Jesus Himself clearly asked us not to do.

  • “. . . catastrophic divine judgment.” ???

    Apparently you haven’t noticed that the nations of the world most accepting of gay people generally rank highest in every measure of human achievement, prosperity, and general well-being ~ while nations treating gay people with vile contempt generally rank lowest in those measures. (Even within the United States a similar correlation can be seen, to some degree, among the states.)

  • I thought Jesus said we couldn’t serve God and money. Where did Jesus say we couldn’t be gay and Christian at the same time? Jesus certainly never condemned non idolatrous and unmarried prostitutes. The woman caught in adultery was married or betrothed to a man. A non betrothed woman would not be punished for having sex with a man. Men were only punished if they had sex with a woman married or betrothed to another man. It seems like many TV Evangelists try to serve God and Money by their so called “Prosperity Gospel.”

  • maybe you should read the Bible. Jesus said lust is adultery of the heart. If you lust after someone you commit adultery. Have you done that??

  • “. . . you all must repent, leave your filthy life style, then follow Jesus”

    Spoken by a true person of faith filth.

  • Don’t you see how his Fundamentalist background led him to marry a woman? If he had accepted himself from the beginning, he wouldn’t have married a woman. I accepted my homosexuality before I ever thought of marrying a woman. Therefore, I saved myself and someone else a lot of grief.

  • following your desires will lead to hell. Follow Jesus repent turn from sins and put your faith in Christ

  • lol it doesn’t matter honoring God first is the most important. The world will go away we aren’t here that long and this wretched world isn’t worth going to hell over.

  • Read Ezekiel 16:49 about the true Sin of Sodom, such as pride and neglecting the poor and needy. At most, this story condemns the rape of angels. No gay person advocates rape.

  • Exactly about placing God over Heterosexual marriage. Read 1 Kings 16:31 about how Ahab placed his heterosexual marriage over that of honoring God. Heterosexual marriage is very condemned if it leads a person into idolatry. Idolatry is the context of Romans 1 as well as 1 Corinthians 6:9. Heterosexual marriage is just as condemned in that context.

  • Why tell such obvious LIES? Sorry, Jesus affirmed a gay couple. Read Matthew 8:5-13 and Luke 7:1-10. This is the Gospel story where Jesus healed the servant of a Roman centurion. In the original Greek, the word that the Roman centurion uses in this passage to describe the sick man – pais – is the same word used in ancient Greek to refer to a same-gender partner.

  • “Where did Jesus say we couldn’t be gay and Christian at the same time?”

    Nowhere. Please note “Ladygal” didn’t say where in the Bible Jesus said to attack loving, committed same gender couples–because he can’t, Jesus NEVER said that.

  • Sexual orientation, whether gay, bisexual or non-gay, has been shown by science to be inborn and unchangeable as is race, and psychologists have shown being gay or lesbian is just as healthy and “normal” as being non-gay. Here are just 18 of tens of thousands of respected websites (and a citation from Fox News for the doubters) that document this:

    http://www-news dot uchicago dot edu/releases/03/differential-brain-activation dot pdf
    http://www dot new scientist dot com/channel/sex/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex dot html
    http://www dot foxiness dot com/story/0,2933,155990,00 dot html
    http://www dot live science dot com/health/060224_gay_genes dot html
    http://www dot springerlink dot com/content/w27453600k586276/
    http://blogs dot discovermagazine dot com/80beats/2008/06/16/172/
    http://articles dot lattices dot com/2008/jun/17/science/sci-gaybrain17
    http://psych dot fullerton dot edu/rlippa/bbc_birthorder dot htm
    http://www dot economist dot com/science/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12465295
    http://www dot abc dot ca/health/story/2006/06/26/brothers=gay dot html
    http://www dot medpagetoday dot com/OBGYN/Pregnancy/3641
    http://www dot sciencedaily dot com/releases/2008/06/080617151845 dot htm
    http://abclocal dot go dot com/kgo/story?section=news/local&id=6209976
    http://www dot apa dot org/topics/sorientation dot html
    http://www dot independent dot co dot uk/news/world/americas/male-homosexuality-influenced-by-genes-us-study-finds-9127683 dot html
    http://borngay dot proton dot org/view dot resource dot php?resourceID=000006
    http://www dot abc dot com/news/magazine-26089486
    http://www dot nbcnews dot com/health/sexual-health/researchers-say-gene-changes-show-whos-gay-n441211

  • I never mentioned LGBT all have the same lifestyle. I mentioned that their lifestyle is a choice of their choosing. However, I never said I was “right”. This is coming from a position of someone who will never fully know or understand. I get that there is nothing I can say that would satisfy your position with mine. But I’m okay with that because I have no problem with anyone. I treat and look at everyone the same despite who they are.

  • Not your decision, is it? Unless, of course, you’re hiding nail prints in your hands. Last time I read the invitation, it said “Whosoever will, let him come…” Jesus said that whoever came to Him, He would not EVER throw out. I can’t find any exceptions attached to that statement.
    And with 35+ years experience researching scripture in the original languages, I know what it said before translators had a field day with it. And what you are seeing in vernacular translations from the 17th century to the present about homosexuality is not even remotely what was written in the Hebrew and Greek.

  • Precisely the reason why I am not a Christian– well, one of them. Too many of you willing to declare that you are privy to the relationship of your God with any other person on the planet.

  • Shame on you for repeating that LIE that sexual orientation is a “choice.” You’ve already seen the evidence that debunks that LIE.

  • If you mean he claims his sexual orientation was “changed” to heterosexual, that is impossible. That would make the “author” a con artist, trying to make money with that con. Even the anti-gays themselves that cooked up this lie, “ex-gay,” now admit it was nothing more than a con:

    http://www dot latimes. dot com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-exodus-ministry-to-shut-down-20130619,0,2132827 dot story

    “A controversial Christian ministry devoted to changing people “affected by homosexuality” announced Wednesday night that it was shutting its doors after operating for more than three decades.

    The announcement by Exodus International came during its religious conference in Irvine and after its President Alan Chambers apologized to members of the gay community for “years of undue judgment by the organization and the Christian Church as a whole,” the Florida-based ministry said in a statement.

    “I am sorry I didn’t stand up to people publicly ‘on my side’ who called you names…. I am sorry I have communicated that you and your families are less than me and mine,” Chambers said in his apology.

    “More than anything, I am sorry that so many have interpreted this religious rejection by Christians as God’s rejection. I am profoundly sorry that many have walked away from their faith and that some have chosen to end their lives.”

    Chambers said in a statement that the organization’s directors voted to shut down Exodus and start a new ministry that would would work with other churches to create “safe, welcoming and mutually transforming communities.”

  • Oh, look, another comment from a so called Christian who uses names like sodomite, has a forest in his eyes, and thinks that he is privy to he relationship of God with other people.

  • Here’s what the EXPERTS say:

    “In a resolution adopted on a 125-to-4 vote by the APA’s governing council, and in a comprehensive report based on two years of research, the 150,000-member association put itself firmly on record in opposition of so-called “reparative therapy” which seeks to change sexual orientation.

    No solid evidence exists that such change is likely, says the report, and some research suggests that efforts to produce change could be harmful, inducing depression and suicidal tendencies.”

    http://abcnews dot go dot com/US/wireStory?id=8261359

  • Psychologists refer to that particular form of deception as “projection.” This enraged, defeated anti-gay poster is trying to blame his intended LGBT victims for anti-gays at the time of King James twisting Scripture. Modern Biblical scholars have proven the Bible was intentionally mistranslated relatively recently in order to provide “Biblical cover” for then-rising levels of homophobia. For example, the word “homosexual” didn’t even exist until 1870. Many major Christian and Jewish denominations condemn misusing the hate-based mistranslations to attack their fellow Americans and are marrying same gender American couples now. About 400 years ago, a group of religious authorities (sanctioned by King James I of England), secretly manipulated the English version of the Bible to reflect their own heterosexual attitude; they opposed the King kissing other men in public.

  • Yes, we got your message, you think a great deal about “sodomy.” Anti-gays always obsess about what loving, committed same gender married couples do in the privacy of their homes.

  • That’s one of the many passages in the Bible that anti-gays ignore because it debunks their lies.

  • lets reference back to Genesis when God made Adam and Eve. Eve was made for Adam and that is one of the foundational creations by God. The other is animals and such.

  • God bless you, Trey. That was not an easy decision to make. But I am all too familiar with the struggle you have faced. Over the past four decades, I have watched the church subject LGBT people to what can only be characterized as emotional and spiritual torture. The results have included depression, anger, self-loathing, loss of faith in God, and even suicide. The only result never seen has been heterosexuality. I have seen a pastor try, over the period of a year, try to talk a gay teenager into suicide, and when that ultimately failed, try to blackmail him for information about others in the church. I have seen gay people subjected to exorcisms. I have seen them snubbed, shunned and thrown out of their homes by “loving” Christian parents. Not for anything they were doing… just for who they were.
    Unlike some who just choose to hate blindly (and have the gall to call their hatred ‘love,’), I took the time almost forty years ago to make sure I could read both Hebrew and Greek, in their biblical forms, and to study scripture in the original languages. I learned that there is not a single translation of the full Bible from the 17th century to the present that has been honest about this topic. They are filled with deliberate deceptions. For example, pretty much every English translation contains the word sodomite, in one or both Testaments. But there is NO such word in the Hebrew or Greek texts, nor any word that can legitimately be translated as sodomite. Another example: the Hebrew text of Lev. 18:22 and 20:13 both contain a phrase that means “a woman’s bed,” referring to a location. (It’s the grammatical equivalent of a phrase in Gen. 49:4 meaning “thy father’s bed.” Those three verses are the only ones in the Bible using bed in that way.) But NO English language Bible mentions a woman’s bed in those verses, and all of them insert “comparison” clauses (as with womankind, etc.) that are not found in the Hebrew text, nor can such clauses be “understood” from the Hebrew text. These aren’t accidental errors. They started out as “alterations” designed to make the Bible (KJV) support Anglican teaching of the 17th century. Over the next few centuries, those errors were retained in other translations for the same reason. And beginning in the 20th century, they were greatly amplified. The result is that the newest translations contain the word homosexual in the NT, when there was no such word in first century Greek. (There were known expressions to refer to people having sex with someone of the same sex… but none of those known expressions are found in the Greek NT… Paul certainly never used any of them.) Further, Genesis 19, as found in some of the new versions, does not reflect what is written in the Hebrew text… but does reflect the Koran’s version of the story… which is where Christianity first learned the supposed link between Sodom and homosexuality. Neither the Hebrew and Greek texts, nor any other “holy” book before the Koran suggested such a link. The Mishnah, pre-Christian Jewish Bible commentary, actually contains very specific examples of the sins that led to the destruction of Sodom. Homosexuality is not mentioned. When the Muslim Moors invaded Europe, they brought the Koran’s version of events with them. The Christians, not knowing the Bible, believed them. (The church at the time only allowed the Bible to be translated into Latin, which very, very few could read, and only allowed clergy to own copies. So the Christians had no way to verify or disprove what the Moors told them. The Jews of Europe, on the other hand, studied the Tanakh [OT] in Hebrew from an early age, which is why they never bought into the whole lie about Sodom, sodomy, sodomites, etc.)

  • Yes, he will inspire thousands of other young Americans to walk away from a hateful, hurtful political agenda that pretends to be a “religion” in order to avoid taxation and public scrutiny, and be himself. Every time another American comes out of the closet, he or she gives others more courage.

  • “Christian” bands are just a label. It’s a great way to make money. But the reality is, you cannot be a homosexual and be a Christian too. Unfortunately this young man is fooling himself and choosing his own morals over Biblical morals. (Studying the Bible and saying the verses pertaining to homosexuality are now irrelevant is making a god up in your own mind to suit your sin, whatever sin it may be.) The Bible is very clear about homosexuality. It is a sin. Just like ALL sin. It is not excluded because one desires it to be and because fallen sinful man now says it is ok. It is not. How sad this young man has chosen to live his life in this sinful lifestyle and has fallen victim to Satan’s most powerful weapon…lust. We are all sinners, but you cannot continue in a life of sin and think you will be saved. You must repent of your sin…homosexuality, adultery, murder, covetousness, drunkenness, etc. and TURN from the sin in order for God to bestow His forgiveness and mercy upon you. This young man should read Romans 1. Read the entire chapter, but notice what God says in verses 22- 32. I feel very badly for this young man who by some means has/is being taught homosexuality is ok now. Don’t be fooled my friend.

  • I have a choice to be gay. Many times men have tried to drag me in to hell with them but I know better. Conscience warned me about it. It was tempting because I had just went through a divorce. I wasn’t saved then.

  • People are always preaching that God Destroyed an entire city because of homosexuality So why isn’t he doing it now?? With the emergence of so many people coming out gay & transgendered you would think that GOD’s WRATH upon these people would be SWIFT & HARSH ..but this is NOT happening Maybe this is GOD showing us that we have evolved into a more Inclusive human family!!!!

  • they must repent of sin and put their faith in Christ. You must of skipped that part

  • A majority of American Christians reject your lie about LGBT Christians:

    “More than six in ten (62 percent) white mainline Protestants support same-sex marriage. Among white mainline Protestant denominations, support ranges from 69 percent support among white mainline Presbyterians and 68 percent among both white Episcopalians and white Congregationalists/United Church of Christ members, to lower support among white mainline Baptists (53 percent) and white mainline Church of Christ/Disciples (50 percent).

    And while the Catholic Church officially opposes the legalization of same-sex marriage, about six in ten white (61 percent), Hispanic (60 percent), and other non-white Catholics (60 percent) support allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry legally. A majority of orthodox Christians (56 percent) also support same-sex marriage.

    The most supportive major religious groups are Buddhists (84 percent), Jews (77 percent), and Americans who select “Other religion” (75 percent); additionally, more than three-quarters (77 percent) of the religiously unaffiliated also support same-sex marriage.”

    http://publicreligion dot org/2015/04/attitudes-on-same-sex-marriage-by-religious-affiliation-and-denominational-family/# dot VbUcrRNVhBe

  • actually science hasn’t proved anything they are deceiving you and you love the lie they tell because it fits your agenda and the sin you love

  • Anti-gays are LYING about Sodom:

    Ezekiel 16:49:

    King James Bible

    “Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.”

  • You can pretend homosexuality is ok now, but you are wrong. It is indeed a sin, just like all sin. It is not excluded because you wish it to be. Here are the ABC’s of salvation. Admit you are a sinner, Repent (turn from) that sin, believe Jesus Christ died and rose again to pay the price for your sins. Like he told the prostitute…”Go and sin no more”.

  • Gay people can not reproduce. As for his children? I’m sure if his wife knew from the beginning he was gay she would have never married him and no biological children would have been born! God Almighty made sure that only a man and a women have the power given to them to pro-create!

  • “Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.”

    http://www dot landman-psychology dot Com/Homophobia%20Associated%20with%20Homosexual%20Arousal dot pdf

    http://psycnet dot apa dot Org/journals/abn/105/3/440/

    An agency of the federal government, the National Institutes of Health, publishes a supporting study:

    http://www dot ncbi dot nlm dot nih dot Gov/pubmed/8772014

    Here’s a video that illustrates that study:

    http://www dot youtube dot Com/watch?v=AEuDDvqYbVw

    How about a You-tube SONG that explains this?

    http://www dot youtube dot Com/watch?v=1CQg9f7z9eg&feature=youtube

  • Where’s your evidence ALL these studies are “wrong”?

    Psychologists report that the most commonly observed symptom of the mental disorder homophobia is cognitive dissonance, an inability of those so afflicted to accept documentation that contradicts their deep-seated phobia and hatred of LGBT Americans.

  • The saying goes,

    “A pious Christian buys a Bible and never reads it.

    A self righteous type buys s Bible and reads only half of it.

    A person who buys a Bible and reads it in its entirety becomes an atheist”

  • @matthew is Pat Robinson& the rest of those BILLIONAIRE WALL St Televangelist walking in the SPIRIT??? How about Donald Trump & the rest of those INTOLLARANT FAKE HATEFUL republican Christians who CLAIM to be RIGHEOUS & SAVED?????

  • I’ve posted 18 citations from respected sites (and one from Faux News for right-wingers) that debunk your LIE that sexual orientation is a “choice,: Where is YOUR “proof” they are all “lying”?

  • “It’s not only an idea for me that I’m gay; It’s my life.” And therein lies the flaw in his logic. Being a Christian, serving God, witnessing to and helping others is our lives. Unless you put Jesus first in you’re life in everything you say and do, you will fail as Christian. As for him being gay, personally I think it is 100% wrong, it is a sin but that is something I’ll leave between him and God.

  • You didn’t “leave between him and God,” you posted a personal attack online for others to read. Shame on you. You went so far as to lie in the same post where you posted a personal attack. This is why the majority of American Christians reject the anti-gay political agenda, they can see it’s all based on lies, personal attacks and Hate Speech.

  • That IS A LIE. These denominations REJECT THAT LIE and will marry same gender couples: Affirming Pentecostal Church International, Alliance of Christian Churches, Anointed Affirming Independent Ministries, The Association of Welcoming and Affirming Baptists, Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), Community of Christ, Conservative Judaism, Ecumenical Catholic Church, Ecumenical Catholic Communion, The Episcopal Church, Evangelical Anglican Church In America, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Global Alliance of Affirming Apostolic Pentecostals, Inclusive Orthodox Church, Moravian Church Northern Province, Metropolitan Community Church, Old Catholic Church, Presbyterian Church USA, Progressive Christian Alliance, Reconciling Pentecostals International, Reconstructionist Judaism, Reform Judaism, Reformed Anglican Catholic Church, Religious Society of Friends (Quakers), Unitarian Universalist Church, United Church of Christ, Unity Church

  • No, I didn’t. I just bothered to read scripture in the original languages to find out that God never called homosexuality a sin. That was the church in the middle ages, and their translators enshrined it in scripture. And the newer translations contain far more anti-gay sentiment than the old ones, which wouldn’t be true if they were being honest in their translations.

  • What’s YOUR problem? You have your Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kansas. Stop trying to drag all American Christians down in the dirt with immoral, disloyal anti-gays.

  • It is a lie… there is not a single verse of scripture in Hebrew and Greek that suggests it is a sin. And you won’t find it called a sin in translations of the Bible up until around the 17th century.

  • In the old testament God set laws for the jews to separate them from the surrounding gentiles. They stoned people who are sexually immoral acts that wasn’t from his design from the beginning of creation. Now we are in the New testament nobody gets stoned. We all can have access to God through Christ but we must repent and forsake our sins and put our faith in Christ.

  • You’re lying. That’s a SIN. “Thou Shalt Not Lie.” Here’s the result of telling that LIE:

    “Among those who say they left their childhood religion and now have no religious identity, nearly one in four (24 percent) say their church’s negative teachings or treatment of LGBT people was an important reason they left. That rises to 31 percent of millennials, damaging churches’ ability to bring in — and keep — young adults”

    http://www dot religionnews dot com/2014/02/26/gay-marriage-lgbt-prri-pew-religion/

  • Rev. Carey is correct. Modern Biblical scholars have proven the Bible was intentionally mistranslated relatively recently in order to provide “Biblical cover” for then-rising levels of homophobia. For example, the word “homosexual” didn’t even exist until 1870. Many major Christian and Jewish denominations condemn misusing the hate-based mistranslations to attack their fellow Americans and are marrying same gender American couples now. About 400 years ago, a group of religious authorities (sanctioned by King James I of England), secretly manipulated the English version of the Bible to reflect their own heterosexual attitude; they opposed the King kissing other men in public.

  • I don’t have a problem. I have the truth, but of course homosexuals reject that, just as all sinners reject it… so they can continue in their sinful lifestyles. As a forgiven sinner, I understand that. But it doesn’t change the fact homosexuality is a sin, like ALL sin. Name calling from you only validates the truth truly does hurt.

  • You are SO RIGHT ON!!…Sometimes GOD is right down in the sticky, oooey gooky mud with us, wiping our tears and the mud out of our eyes, so that we can see again, helping us walk through it., getting muddy Himself!!! If God or Jesus walk this earth right now he would NOT be hanging with these modern day FAKE HYPOCRITE JUDGEMENTAL Christians! People like Matthew believe Donald Trump is a Christian because he SAID SO!!

  • They will take action against you for making a false report.

    Please don’t harass me again.

  • The 10 Commandments and Matt 5. If you read the Bible for what it is. I have a Nasb Bible translated from the original scrolls. Start in the new testament.

  • You are wrong, but understandably you do not want to admit it. No one who is living a sinful lifestyle wants to change. But that is what is required to be saved.

  • A village? Gee, most think it was two cities. Of course, God destroyed four cities that day, and almost destroyed five. But according to scripture, as well as pre-Christian Jewish Bible commentary, it wasn’t about homosexuality. Would you stop the broken record about what I skipped? I have read the entire Bible, more than once, in the original languages. I taught Hebrew for years, and have published from biblical Greek. Sodom had nothing to do with homosexuality, nor is there such a word as sodomite in the Hebrew and Greek texts. Your Bible translators have been LYING to you since the 17th century… and you have believed their lies without bothering to verify accuracy. Did YOU skip 2 Tim. 2:15? That verse entails more than memorizing scripture from your favorite translation and assuming it was correct. (Or getting details wrong like changing four cities to “a village.”)

  • Identifying your Hate Speech is not name-calling, but your Hate Speech is causing the collapse in religious participation in America:

    “[T]he major new survey of more than 35,000 Americans by the Pew Research Center finds that the percentage of adults (ages 18 and older) who describe themselves as Christians has dropped by nearly eight percentage points in just seven years, from 78.4% in an equally massive Pew Research survey in 2007 to 70.6% in 2014. Over the same period, the percentage of Americans who are religiously unaffiliated – describing themselves as atheist, agnostic or “nothing in particular” – has jumped more than six points, from 16.1% to 22.8%.”

    http://www dot pewforum dot org/2015/05/12/americas-changing-religious-landscape/

  • its knowing it is a sin. Conscience tells it is a sin. You are trying to kill your conscience by coming on here defending your sin hoping to feel better about it

  • Because you say so? Who are you? What is your authority compared to the Hebrew and Greek texts of scripture? Have you read them? CAN you read them? I have. I taught Hebrew for years, and have published from biblical Greek. Don’t sit there and smugly tell me I am wrong. You are speaking “authoritatively” from a position of ignorance. Do you know how that makes you look????

  • i don’t read KJV sorry. blah blah moder scholars. You are fed lies. Go outside the homosexual crowd and do your own study. I know someone who did and God saved her out of it.

  • it is a choice just like I have choice not to commit adultery. I still battle it every so often but I choose Jesus first

  • your no Rev lol the wolves in the church. The tares with the wheat. The tares will be gathered up and thrown in the fire

  • maybe you should read the NASB instead of the one that deleted that part. your not a rev your a wolf deceiving your flock of wolves

  • (Yawn) Still not seeing the nail prints in your hands. I KNOW Whom I have believed, and am persuaded that He is able to keep that which I’ve committed to Him against that day.

  • If we don’t have to follow Old Testament shrimp laws, we don’t have to follow Old Testament gay laws. Literally the point of Jesus was that we didn’t have to follow the Old Laws anymore. So I repeat, what’s the different between eating shrimp and being gay?

  • Oh, LOL… NASB is superior to the Hebrew and Greek texts it pretends to be translated from? You are TOO funny. What makes you think NASB is so great? It has as many flaws as every other English translation… and not just on this topic.

  • I’m not interested in your faked out Bible. Please stop harassing me. I will NOT join your church. I will NOT give your minister money so he can violate IRS regulations and throw elections or trash funerals of soldiers killed in the Middle East.

  • why is it my Christian did better research then you. She was a lesbian and now is a Christian. She found it to be a sin and repented of it and put her faith in Christ. There are to many testimonies out there proving you wrong

  • How many times must I ask you to stop harassing me? I will NOT join your church.

  • the flaw you speak of is the one you love to much is your sexual sin you love that is why you don’t like it.

  • Psychologists report that the most commonly observed symptom of the mental disorder homophobia is cognitive dissonance, an inability of those so afflicted to accept documentation that contradicts their deep-seated phobia and hatred of LGBT Americans.

  • Leviticus 18:22, 20:13; Romans 1:26-27; I Corinthians 6:9; Jude 1:7 – this is the inherent Word of GOD – Old Testament word is not negated simply because Jesus Christ was crucified on the cross and rose again on the 3rd day but rather it gives us the eternal hope and promise that HE will help us overcome our sins – and make no mistake living the homosexual lifestyle is a sin. Not greater than any other sin (except for blasphemy) but still a sin. Salvation is a personal thing – I don’t answer for anyone’s sins but my own; however, the Bible also says that a person will be known by the fruits they bear meaning that your ACTIONS will bear you out as being a true follower of Christ Jesus – not that you will never sin but that when you do – and based on the Word of God we know what sin is – the Holy Spirit will convict us so that we repent of that sin. Personally, and please note I said personally, I do not see how anyone can NOT see that being a homosexual is contrary to what God’s Word says…. but again, when I stand before GOD on the judgement day I will be answering for MY sins – but thank GOD Jesus has made atonement for me.

  • He believes as he wishes as do I. So by simply disagreeing with someone it is now an “attack”? That is why the majority of American Christians reject the pro-gay agenda because they can’t even voice their opinion without being harassed and attacked.

  • So you admit you are lying and can’t prove any of your wild claims.

    Please stop harassing me, I will never join your church.

  • Speaking the truth in love is surely not “hate speech”. On the other hand, your name calling and ridicule is not “hate speech”? I supposed if a person disagrees with your opinion it is in your eyes “hate speech”?

  • Psychologists identified homophobia as a mental illness and published their results in the Journal of the National Institutes of Health in 1953. Homophobia is the irrational fear, disgust, or hatred of gays, lesbians, and/or bisexual people, or of homosexual feelings in oneself. It refers to the discomfort one feels with any behavior, belief, or attitude (in self or others) that does not conform to traditional sex role stereotypes. Homophobia exhibits itself in the fear of knowing, befriending, or associating with gays, lesbians, or bisexual people; fear of being perceived as gay or lesbian; and/or fear of stepping out of accepted gender role behavior. Psychologists report that the most commonly observed symptom of the mental disorder homophobia is cognitive dissonance, an inability of those so afflicted to accept documentation that contradicts their deep-seated phobia and hatred of LGBT Americans.

  • As Christian we are to forsake our sins. The shrimp has to do with jews. Maybe you should ask them. Being gay goes against God’s design. You can read Genesis in the beginning. God made all food clean to eat in the book of Acts when he corrected Peter.

  • I doubt she did better research. What she did, as a minister friend of mine says, is believed a lie and damned herself. It isn’t possible to repent of being a lesbian… the definition of lesbian is a woman who is sexually attracted to other women. She has no control over that attraction. She can repent from now till kingdom come, but will still be attracted only to women… unless she is bisexual, in which case she can make a choice to be with a man.
    I know all about the “testimonies.” I also know about what happens after the people in those testimonies are no longer news. A book was published about such people some years back. They were the so-called success stories of ex-gay ministries. And an Assembly of God minister interviewed several of them AFTER those ministries had stopped making them news. The title of the book that resulted from the interviews tells it all: “Ex-Gays: There Are None.” Every single one of those people was still gay.

  • What’s the matter, isn’t your Westboro Baptist Church receiving “donations” so you can fly first class to distant cities to trash funerals of American soldiers killed in the Mideast any more?

    Please stop recruiting for your church here.

  • You said he failed as a Christian, which is a personal attack.

    Anti-gays will even lie about something they just wrote. This is why the majority of American Christians reject the anti-gay political agenda.

  • Your flaw is that you are overly presumptuous and make judgments about others from a position of ignorance. My sexual sin? I’m not having sex with ANYONE. I’m married… but have been disabled for years, and sex is pretty much a thing of the past. So I will trouble you to keep your ignorant judgments about my private life to yourself. You only succeed in making yourself look REALLY bad.

  • Please note this angry anti-gay poster uses the name of a porn character, “Flesh Gordon,” as his profile name.

  • I’m not ridiculing you when I debunk your lies, you ridiculed yourself by posting such obvious lies.

  • Speaking truth implies offering evidence that it is truth. On my profile, on the left, is a website. It shows all the scriptures you think condemn homosexuality… in the original languages. It shows correct translations and historical context. Now, where is your evidence that your brilliant “you’re wrong” and “you’re lying” statements are truth?

  • I could be married to a lamp, and it wouldn’t matter if I am not having sex, would it?
    By the way, when did my personal life become yours for dissection? I don’t recall having made any comments or observations about yours.

  • Right, so again, we no longer are required to follow the Old Laws because of the events that happened int he New Testament. According to the old laws eating shrimp is a sin, getting a tattoo is a sin, wearing mixed fibers is a sin, having sex with the same gender is a sin. If God and Jesus wash away the requirements of the Old Laws in the New Testament, that includes ALL of them. It’s our modern Christian culture that places such a high moral taboo on homosexuality – in the Old Testament, shrimp is a far bigger offense. Cherry picking the Old Laws is not only completely incorrect, it flies in the face of what Jesus did. Also, please stop telling me to read the bible. For one, Genesis has nothing to do with homosexuality and sin, especially post-Jesus laws and sins. For another I study the Bible quite in depth, including the original words and cultural significance of verbage use, which also leads to an interesting bit of biblical scholarship that Jesus may have in fact affirmed a gay couple.

  • Before his assassination in 1978, the LGBT hero Harvey Milk, who was posthumously awarded the Medal Of Freedom, said all LGBT Americans should “Come out, come out.” LGBT Americans doing so have changed America for the better by making our country more equal. Anti-gays are actually acknowledging what a defeat it is for this musician to come out by attacking him so viciously.

  • PLEASE answer Joe Bauer and those scriptures that he has listed from GOD’S HOLY BIBLE! I know you like to bombarded folks with your so-called “knowledge “!but all of this discussion stems from the HOLY BIBLE! So carrot let’s stick to GOD’S HOLY WORD instead of all of your carnal babble about psychology and what man has produced from their carnal minds!

  • who said anything about hating anyone. I here warning you about judgment day. I’m not asking you for money or to go to church but to get right with God. Judgment day is coming

  • Please stop harassing me. I will NEVER join your wicked, immoral, traitorous church.

  • SIN THRILLS AND THEN IT KILLS…….a handful of scriptures? The BIBLE SAYS DONT DO IT……..what else needs to be said. This young man has chosen self and the flesh. He is no role model for the real believers who struggle TO DENY SELF AND TAKE UP THEIR CROSS DAILY…….this is so sad to hear…….but for those who remain on the battlefield….HOLD ON SOLDIERS!!!!

  • the jesus you say you worship isn’t the Jesus of the Bible. You are making a god to suit your sin and that deals with the first and second commandment. Many people are guilty of this.

  • The Bible says, “Thou Shalt Not Lie,” but anti-gays feel that Commandment doesn’t apply to them.

    But you say fantasizing about “gay sex” thrills you? Readers who would like to see the scientific evidence for why anti-gay posters are so obsessed with what they IMAGINE same gender couples do in private should Google “Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.”

  • thinking is one thing but the Bible says other wise. God designed man and woman. Woman for man and man for woman from the beginning of creation

  • Again, you’re on dangerous ground. It was bad enough you judged me from a position of ignorance. Now you presume to denounce the God I worship? So be it then… it isn’t to me that you will need to answer for that. It’s to Him. Fortunately for you, He’s a lot more merciful than I am. But I’m done with you. Proverbs instructs me to leave the presence of a foolish man when I perceive that his speech is without knowledge. Good advice, which I will follow.

  • You should really learn the Bible better… and not just your distorted NASB. You’d be surprised at the marriages God blessed in the Old Testament. They’re marriages you would have condemned to hell.

  • I have no problem with gays, but people who pimp their faith for cash should go straight to hell.

  • NO, I WILL NOT join your Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kansas, and I will NOT trash funerals of American soldiers.

  • you will answer to God on judgment day. If you don’t have Jesus the one of the Bible you will end up in hell. Jesus knows your thought life because he said if you lust its adultery of the heart and hatred is murder within the hearts. Just by those we are all condemned. Repent put your faith in Christ.

  • Old Laws. Old Laws. Old Laws. You’re either completely ignoring my point or missing it all together. Because of Jesus and the events of the New Testament we are no longer required to live by the old laws. Jesus says this himself – when asked what the most important commandment/law is, he answers with something new “the greatest commandment I give unto you, to love one another as I have loved you”. By the same extent that we can eat shrimp or get tattoos and wear mixed fibers, gay people can live their lives honestly as being gay is not a sin by Jesus’ laws, which are what we are supposed to be following.

  • You’re lying. Face the fact, Jesus Himself debunked your lie. Jesus affirmed a gay couple. Read Matthew 8:5-13 and Luke 7:1-10. This is the Gospel story where Jesus healed the servant of a Roman centurion. In the original Greek, the word that the Roman centurion uses in this passage to describe the sick man – pais – is the same word used in ancient Greek to refer to a same-gender partner.

  • Then there are the anti-gays who claim they were “once gay but changed by prayer” so they can rake in the cash. We know that sexual orientation is immutable, and the only persons who ever said publicly they were “changed” were making money off that claim.

  • My last name is Gordon and my nickname has been “Flash” since high school. It is becoming readily apparent that YOU are the one who is angry (and unhinged).

  • Unclean foods are also an “abomination” in Deuteronomy 14:3. It uses the exact same Hebrew word toevah to refer to anal (not oral) sex between men as well as unclean foods. Therefore, it is a ritual purity, not a moral law. Christians are not obligated to keep ritual purity laws.

  • Why would I be angry? This story is yet another win for LGBT Americans. No, it’s anti-gays who are enraged at their defeat after defeat after defeat, even in the area of religion. A strong majority of American Christians reject and condemn the anti-gay political agenda you failed to promote here with your Hate Speech.

    Yes, I see you changed your screen name.

  • Really? Let’s look at sin… Starting with the 10 commandments:

    You shall have no other gods before Me.
    You shall make no idols.
    You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
    Keep the Sabbath day holy.
    Honor your father and your mother.
    You shall not murder.
    You shall not commit adultery.
    You shall not steal.
    You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
    You shall not covet.

    Nope… don’t see anything about being gay there… In fact the Bible only mentions gay people SIX TIMES. Yet people like you somehow seem to think it is the single worse sin on Earth.

    And we’ve all heard that Leviticus is where the Bible says that homosexual behavior is an abomination and says that homosexuals should receive the death penalty. It also says the same thing about eating pork or shellfish, charging interest on loans, and a whole bunch of other restrictions that were a part of the
    Old Testament Law Code. That’s a lot of death penalty… But The real problem lies in the fact that all of the Bible’s anti-gay rhetoric is from the Old Testament and in Hebrews 8:13, God says the old law is obsolete and aging.

    Maybe we should listen to God instead of judging others for him. Also King James, who developed the version of the Bible you read, was a gay man. Fact.

  • you need to repent of your sins and come to Christ of the Bible. Don’t take a chance with your soul. Even your thoughts can send a person to hell on judgment day without Jesus.

  • Please learn to accept the defeat of your anti-gay political agenda. Shrieking death threat will only further defeat that immoral and traitorous agenda.

  • Jesus gave his life on the Cross so Pearson could turn his back on Him. Pathetic shame, not to mention a trader to his wife and children. Absolute selfishness!

  • Jesus is NOT a liar. Only people (and fake Christians) that believe in lies are liars.

  • Yes I did say that if you don’t put God first then you will fail as a Christian. Please tell me, from a Christian perspective, how this is wrong? If he had said that he was a heterosexual first, a vegan first, or anyone or anything else first in his life before God, my answer would be the same. In none of my posts did I come off as angry, condescending or use insults yet you constantly attack me. You have impugned my name and my honor countless times so yes, you are definitely unhinged.
    As far as the gay agenda being passed in other states, in the vast majority of those cases, when left up to the people by referendum, gay marriage has been soundly defeated. As with many liberal causes, they have used liberal judges to override the will of the people and force their agenda on the rest of the country.

  • Be honest, don’t mislead people. If you truly believe what you say; you may be suffering from self inflicted delusion. The Bible is not a one size fits all; it is a whosoever will. Read Romans 12 again

  • By spamming this board again and again with their Hate Speech, anti-gays themselves admit they have not sold their anti-gay political agenda to anyone.

  • You want to put your anti-gay political agenda first. You’ve just admitted you’re worse than this musician is. I haven’t impugned you, you did that to yourself by attacking this musician. Tough luck about your anti-gay Hate Votes–didn’t you hear, the last 3, in 2012, were defeated, and all 3 US States where you had your Hate Votes, Maine, Maryland and Minnesota, all established marriage equality shortly thereafter.

    “LIberal courts” means “Waah, waah, the United States Constitution doesn’t convenience the anti-gay political agenda! WAAH! WAAH!”

  • So….you are NEVER going to answer or respond to those scriptures are you carrot?thought so…you can’t gainsay or resist God’s Word! And that’s why you skirt around the scripture with all of your so-called “facts”!!!face it carrot,you can’t get around GOD’S HOLY BIBLE, God is going to save you marvellously with a huge testimony of His love and grace…I can’t wait to read about it!!!

  • I’m here to debunk anti-gay lies. Don’t like being debunked? Post those anti-gay lies somewhere like “Free Republic” or the website of your Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kansas.

  • If you don’t like Christianity, much less Jesus, why are you in here. You are spreading hateful rhetoric towards people of Jesus. Take your religious hate to another forum that would agree with you.

  • This is a website that reports news about ALL religions as well as no religion. It is not your private playground. I am not “spreading hateful rhetoric,” I am calling YOU out on YOUR spreading hateful rhetoric. Why don’t YOU take your HATE SPEECH to the website of your Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kansas? YOU are the one who made the bad choice to spam this website with your anti-gay political agenda.

  • Oh yes the truth does hurt. if someone said that to me I would take the mature path and find out why, NOT turn it to a vicious personal attack.

  • Anti-gays are such liars, they will even lie about Jesus, but we know better. Jesus affirmed a gay couple. Read Matthew 8:5-13 and Luke 7:1-10. This is the Gospel story where Jesus healed the servant of a Roman centurion. In the original Greek, the word that the Roman centurion uses in this passage to describe the sick man – pais – is the same word used in ancient Greek to refer to a same-gender partner.

    Of course, anti-gays won’t agree with that translation. However, modern Biblical scholars have proven the Bible was intentionally mistranslated in order to provide “Biblical cover” for then-rising levels of homophobia. For example, the word “homosexual” didn’t even exist until 1870. Many major Christian and Jewish denominations condemn misusing the hate-based mistranslations to attack their fellow Americans and are marrying same gender American couples now. About 400 years ago, a group of religious authorities (sanctioned by King James I of England), secretly manipulated the English version of the Bible to reflect their own heterosexual attitude; they opposed the King kissing other men in public.

  • The million
    dollar question: Will you go to Heaven or hell when you die? Here’s a quick
    test. Have you ever told a lie, stolen anything or used God’s name in vain?
    Jesus said, “Whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already
    committed adultery with her in his heart.” Have you looked with lust? Have
    you ever hated someone? Jesus said if you hate someone you are considered a
    murderer at heart. Will you be guilty on Judgment Day? If you have done those
    things, God sees you as a lying, murderer at heart, and thieving, blasphemous,
    adulterer at heart. The Bible warns that if you are guilty you will end up in
    Hell. That’s not God’s will. He sent His Son to suffer and die on the cross for
    you. You broke God’s Law, but Jesus paid your fine. That means He can legally
    dismiss your case. He can commute your death sentence: “For God so loved
    the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him
    should not perish but have everlasting life.” Then Jesus rose from the
    dead and defeated death. Then read your Bible daily and obey it. It’s up to you
    to decide no one can stand in your place on judgment day not your preacher or
    the pope. Your good works, praying, being a good person or going to church will
    not save you only Jesus can. Please, repent (turn from sin) today and trust in
    Jesus alone, and God will grant you the gift of everlasting life.

  • The million
    dollar question: Will you go to Heaven or hell when you die? Here’s a quick
    test. Have you ever told a lie, stolen anything or used God’s name in vain?
    Jesus said, “Whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already
    committed adultery with her in his heart.” Have you looked with lust? Have
    you ever hated someone? Jesus said if you hate someone you are considered a
    murderer at heart. Will you be guilty on Judgment Day? If you have done those
    things, God sees you as a lying, murderer at heart, and thieving, blasphemous,
    adulterer at heart. The Bible warns that if you are guilty you will end up in
    Hell. That’s not God’s will. He sent His Son to suffer and die on the cross for
    you. You broke God’s Law, but Jesus paid your fine. That means He can legally
    dismiss your case. He can commute your death sentence: “For God so loved
    the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him
    should not perish but have everlasting life.” Then Jesus rose from the
    dead and defeated death. Then read your Bible daily and obey it. It’s up to you
    to decide no one can stand in your place on judgment day not your preacher or
    the pope. Your good works, praying, being a good person or going to church will
    not save you only Jesus can. Please, repent (turn from sin) today and trust in
    Jesus alone, and God will grant you the gift of everlasting life

  • I took the mature path and found out that Jesus affirmed a gay couple. Read Matthew 8:5-13 and Luke 7:1-10. This is the Gospel story where Jesus healed the servant of a Roman centurion. In the original Greek, the word that the Roman centurion uses in this passage to describe the sick man – pais – is the same word used in ancient Greek to refer to a same-gender partner.

  • The million
    dollar question: Will you go to Heaven or hell when you die? Here’s a quick
    test. Have you ever told a lie, stolen anything or used God’s name in vain?
    Jesus said, “Whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already
    committed adultery with her in his heart.” Have you looked with lust? Have
    you ever hated someone? Jesus said if you hate someone you are considered a
    murderer at heart. Will you be guilty on Judgment Day? If you have done those
    things, God sees you as a lying, murderer at heart, and thieving, blasphemous,
    adulterer at heart. The Bible warns that if you are guilty you will end up in
    Hell. That’s not God’s will. He sent His Son to suffer and die on the cross for
    you. You broke God’s Law, but Jesus paid your fine. That means He can legally
    dismiss your case. He can commute your death sentence: “For God so loved
    the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him
    should not perish but have everlasting life.” Then Jesus rose from the
    dead and defeated death. Then read your Bible daily and obey it. It’s up to you
    to decide no one can stand in your place on judgment day not your preacher or
    the pope. Your good works, praying, being a good person or going to church will
    not save you only Jesus can. Please, repent (turn from sin) today and trust in
    Jesus alone, and God will grant you the gift of everlasting life.

  • These are ‘churches’ of heresy and lies that become dens of Satanism. They are betrayers of TRUE Christianity for the worldly lies of Satan.

  • So many Evangelicals place their Heterosexual marriage in first place in their lives.

  • “Corinthians” is NOT THE WORD OF GOD, it’s the barely coherent ramblings of a disturbed misogynist who never met Jesus, despite the writer’s alcohol-induced hallucinations.

  • The million
    dollar question: Will you go to Heaven or hell when you die? Here’s a quick
    test. Have you ever told a lie, stolen anything or used God’s name in vain?
    Jesus said, “Whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already
    committed adultery with her in his heart.” Have you looked with lust? Have
    you ever hated someone? Jesus said if you hate someone you are considered a
    murderer at heart. Will you be guilty on Judgment Day? If you have done those
    things, God sees you as a lying, murderer at heart, and thieving, blasphemous,
    adulterer at heart. The Bible warns that if you are guilty you will end up in
    Hell. That’s not God’s will. He sent His Son to suffer and die on the cross for
    you. You broke God’s Law, but Jesus paid your fine. That means He can legally
    dismiss your case. He can commute your death sentence: “For God so loved
    the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him
    should not perish but have everlasting life.” Then Jesus rose from the
    dead and defeated death. Then read your Bible daily and obey it. It’s up to you
    to decide no one can stand in your place on judgment day not your preacher or
    the pope. Your good works, praying, being a good person or going to church will
    not save you only Jesus can. Please, repent (turn from sin) today and trust in
    Jesus alone, and God will grant you the gift of everlasting life

  • You don’t control who goes to Heaven. A majority of American Christians reject and condemn the anti-gay agenda pushed above.

  • The million
    dollar question: Will you go to Heaven or hell when you die? Here’s a quick
    test. Have you ever told a lie, stolen anything or used God’s name in vain?
    Jesus said, “Whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already
    committed adultery with her in his heart.” Have you looked with lust? Have
    you ever hated someone? Jesus said if you hate someone you are considered a
    murderer at heart. Will you be guilty on Judgment Day? If you have done those
    things, God sees you as a lying, murderer at heart, and thieving, blasphemous,
    adulterer at heart. The Bible warns that if you are guilty you will end up in
    Hell. That’s not God’s will. He sent His Son to suffer and die on the cross for
    you. You broke God’s Law, but Jesus paid your fine. That means He can legally
    dismiss your case. He can commute your death sentence: “For God so loved
    the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him
    should not perish but have everlasting life.” Then Jesus rose from the
    dead and defeated death. Then read your Bible daily and obey it. It’s up to you
    to decide no one can stand in your place on judgment day not your preacher or
    the pope. Your good works, praying, being a good person or going to church will
    not save you only Jesus can. Please, repent (turn from sin) today and trust in
    Jesus alone, and God will grant you the gift of everlasting life.

  • The Hate Speech term “h*m*sexuality,” was only invented in 1870, which anyone can confirm online. This is just one of the ways we know anti-gays are LYING about the Bible.

  • The anti-gay poster is getting increasingly desperate to try to sell his lies to just one reader here.

  • Hey, so many evangelicals place their DIVORCES in first place. Evidence:

    “Divorce is higher among religiously conservative Protestants – and even drives up divorce rates for other people living around them, a new study finds.

    The study, slated to be published in the American Journal of Sociology, tackles the “puzzling paradox” of why divorce is more common in religiously conservative “red” states. If religious conservatives believe firmly in the value of marriage, why is divorce especially high in places like Alabama and Arkansas?

    Researchers also discovered that people living in areas with lots of conservative Protestants were at higher risk of getting divorced, even if they weren’t conservative Protestants themselves. Community institutions in such areas might encourage early marriage, affecting divorce rates for everyone who lives there. “Pharmacies might not give out emergency contraception. Schools might only teach abstinence education.” On top of that, “if you live in a marriage market where everybody marries young, you postpone marriage at your own risk. The best catches … are going to go first.”

    http://www dot latimes dot com/world/worldnow/la-sci-sn-red-states-religious-conservative-divorce-20140116,0,7835151 dot story#axzz2qllXU5CS

  • The million
    dollar question: Will you go to Heaven or hell when you die? Here’s a quick
    test. Have you ever told a lie, stolen anything or used God’s name in vain?
    Jesus said, “Whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already
    committed adultery with her in his heart.” Have you looked with lust? Have
    you ever hated someone? Jesus said if you hate someone you are considered a
    murderer at heart. Will you be guilty on Judgment Day? If you have done those
    things, God sees you as a lying, murderer at heart, and thieving, blasphemous,
    adulterer at heart. The Bible warns that if you are guilty you will end up in
    Hell. That’s not God’s will. He sent His Son to suffer and die on the cross for
    you. You broke God’s Law, but Jesus paid your fine. That means He can legally
    dismiss your case. He can commute your death sentence: “For God so loved
    the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him
    should not perish but have everlasting life.” Then Jesus rose from the
    dead and defeated death. Then read your Bible daily and obey it. It’s up to you
    to decide no one can stand in your place on judgment day not your preacher or
    the pope. Your good works, praying, being a good person or going to church will
    not save you only Jesus can. Please, repent (turn from sin) today and trust in
    Jesus alone, and God will grant you the gift of everlasting life.

  • You have just proven you are a traitor by trying to deny them their Freedom Of Religion. You are not promoting religion, you are promoting treason against the US and our US Constitution.

  • Joe, you can’t debate a hater. Everything Jesus is hate to him. Why waste your time. Prayers will change him when he’s ready to admit his sin and repent.

  • I salute this musician for his courage to stand up for the truth. We see anti-gays have posted many, many vicious personal attacks at him, as well as anyone who debunks their many anti-gay lies. This rage anti-gays express at their ongoing defeat is helping to further defeat their anti-gay political agenda.

    Make no mistake, anti-gays are NOT promoting faith, they are promoting treason against the United States Constitution. The US Supreme Court has revoked many attempts by anti-gays to subvert our Constitution.

  • That’s a LIE, it’s anti-gays who hate Jesus, because we all know Jesus affirmed a gay couple. Read Matthew 8:5-13 and Luke 7:1-10. This is the Gospel story where Jesus healed the servant of a Roman centurion. In the original Greek, the word that the Roman centurion uses in this passage to describe the sick man – pais – is the same word used in ancient Greek to refer to a same-gender partner.

  • Ezekiel 16:49 Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had arrogance, abundant food and careless ease, but she did not [a]help the poor and needy.50 Thus they were haughty and committed abominations before Me. Therefore I removed them [a]when I saw it.

  • You along with the millions of other high school seniors stood in front of your class mates and struggled with which gender would wanted to take to prom. So after much deliberation you chose your same sex so you had to put up with another million idiots that think like you.

  • Don’t hate homosexuals. However, it’s a choice. He was married and has two children. He chose to be obedient to God and lead a heterosexual life. He fought off the temptations of homosexual sin. Now, he’s chosen to stop fighting the temptation of homosexual sin, and choosing to be disobedient to God.

  • Please show us where Jesus said you should attack LGBT people. Let me save you the time. Jesus NEVER said that. In fact, Jesus affirmed a gay couple. Read Matthew 8:5-13 and Luke 7:1-10. This is the Gospel story where Jesus healed the servant of a Roman centurion. In the original Greek, the word that the Roman centurion uses in this passage to describe the sick man – pais – is the same word used in ancient Greek to refer to a same-gender partner.

  • This is one of those subjects that get Christians arguing about their “rightness”. If each side is caught up in their “rightness “, they are not being free to love those we disagree with. Where do we get that freedom? We should all know the answer but are blinded by picking up a “cause” and becoming angered at those who disagree. It’s a terrible distraction that holds us back. Why do we feel such a need to speak out to strangers online when we know absolutely nothing about their walk or their story? We all have a story and we all have a Lord who is willing to show us His Love. But if we are bent on trying to love by standing by a rightness to get someone to change, we end up making it an idol. What type of “worth” are we trying to achieve by sitting in our own homes and going on social media arguing about who’s right and who’s wrong? You might say ” It needs to be talked about” but would you be willing to say the same things *in person* ? Would that be loving those you disagree with? That would be hard…wouldn’t it? Much easier to spout off online …No accountability or is there? As far as the authors story, We can agree or disagree. Acceptance of another does not mean we have to agree. In fact, that’s much of our journey and being transformed in God’s love. (discovering over and over again that it is not us…it is Him that transforms within. We surrender). And by no means do we have to *try* to get everyone on board with our rightness. No person is your enemy! The goal for some on here is lost on me. Standing up for those they believe are hated by name calling others..(acting in the very nature of what they claim to hate.) Let’s reflect and ask our OWN heart questions about ourselves. Then pray about these things. Im certain the Lord has much for our own hearts to be shown moreso than a stranger online.

  • Actually humans do control who goes to heaven if he confesses and repents of his sin, ask forgiveness and gives his life to Jesus, That’s the choice Christianity gives – acceptance or rejection.

  • Matt 8:5-13 5When Jesus had entered Capernaum, a centurion came to him, asking for help. 6“Lord,” he said, “my servant lies at home paralyzed, suffering terribly.” 7Jesus said to him, “Shall I come and heal him?” 8The centurion replied, “Lord, I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. But just say the word, and my servant will be healed. 9For I myself am a man under authority, with soldiers under me. I tell this one, ‘Go,’ and he goes; and that one, ‘Come,’ and he comes. I say to my servant, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.” 10When Jesus heard this, he was amazed and said to those following him, “Truly I tell you, I have not found anyone in Israel with such great faith. 11I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. 12But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” 13Then Jesus said to the centurion, “Go! Let it be done just as you believed it would.” And his servant was healed at that moment.

  • We know what Jesus did for a loving, committed same gender couple. Jesus affirmed that couple. Read Matthew 8:5-13 and Luke 7:1-10. This is the Gospel story where Jesus healed the servant of a Roman centurion. In the original Greek, the word that the Roman centurion uses in this passage to describe the sick man – pais – is the same word used in ancient Greek to refer to a same-gender partner.

    Anti-gays may use the name of Jesus in vain, but everyone else can see anti-gays are spitting on Jesus and His clear example to “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

  • luke 7:1When He had completed all His discourse in the hearing of the people, He went to Capernaum. And a centurion’s slave, who was highly regarded by him, was sick and about to die. When he heard about Jesus, he sent some Jewish elders asking Him to come and save the life of his slave. When they came to Jesus, they earnestly implored Him, saying, “He is worthy for You to grant this to him; for he loves our nation and it was he who built us our synagogue.” Now Jesus started on His way with them; and when He was not far from the house, the centurion sent friends, saying to Him, “Lord, do not trouble Yourself further, for I am not worthy for You to come under my roof; for this reason I did not even consider myself worthy to come to You, but just say the word, and my servant will be healed. For I also am a man placed under authority, with soldiers under me; and I say to this one, ‘Go!’ and he goes, and to another, ‘Come!’ and he comes, and to my slave, ‘Do this!’ and he does it.” Now when Jesus heard this, He marveled at him, and turned and said to the crowd that was following Him, “I say to you, not even in Israel have I found such great faith.” When those who had been sent returned to the house, they found the slave in good health.

  • There is only one small group here calling names–anti-gays. Normal, non-homophobic Americans are not calling anti-gays “names” when we debunk their lies and defend LGBT Americans from their vicious attacks.

  • It looks like you’ve denied Jesus. Remember, Jesus affirmed a gay couple. Read Matthew 8:5-13 and Luke 7:1-10. This is the Gospel story where Jesus healed the servant of a Roman centurion. In the original Greek, the word that the Roman centurion uses in this passage to describe the sick man – pais – is the same word used in ancient Greek to refer to a same-gender partner.

  • No, I got your point, I debunked it. Anti-gays are the only ones calling others names here.

  • Matthew 7:1-2 😉

    You still haven’t actually addressed any of my points, but yeah, sure keep spitting generic responses at me.

    P.S. I’ve talked at length to my pastor about my sexuality. Based on his biblical scholarship he doesn’t see it as anything I need to repent for either.

  • You should stop following Maggie Phelps-Roper and her father, the late Fred Phelps.

  • Yes and those men and women have left over 153,000,000 orphaned children. What are you doing about it dear xtian?
    You are not that seriously obtuse that you don’t think gay couples can reproduce. Have you taken a high school course in biology within the last five decades. I’ll give you some key words: artificial insemination, surrogacy, adoption. If you need more ask your parents.

  • Jude 7

    7 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after [a]strange flesh, are exhibited as an [b]example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.

  • THANK YOU thank you for posting truth. When will we finally grow up and realize its about what is between your ears and not between your legs. It is not good for man to be alone. It is worse for a man to be with a woman when he is gay. It is such simple truth. Isn’t truth and love the key components of any quality spirituality?

  • So you are saying that I should lead a life of sadness and complete betrayal toward my humanity and identity (humanity created by God) as long as I keep the Christian God happy? I should be miserable as long as god is happy? I should lead a life that probably will end up submerged in addictions to evade my sadness just as long as I comply with the Christian God? God wants me to be miserable? My being miserabke wont make me a grumpy, sad and unreliable person?

  • Despite their efforts going back to Anita Bryant to keep LGBT Americans second-class citizens and at the far fringes of society, their misdeeds have placed anti-gays themselves at the fringe of society and unwelcome in America’s public life, such as President Obama’s 2012 Inauguration, while a gay poet spoke at that same Inauguration. Now, anti-gays see that the last American institution that once supported their anti-gay agenda, the Boy Scouts, have given anti-gays their walking papers. Anti-gays have not been denied any rights, despite their specious claims that the US Supreme Court is “discriminating” against them when the Court prevents their attempts to subvert the United States Constitution’s guarantee of Equal Protection. Most Americans just laugh at anti-gays when they whine that their intended victims, LGBT Americans, are “the real bigots” or “the real haters.”

  • Enraged anti-gays have made it clear they consider this musician’s action a defeat for their anti-gay political agenda. What will the response be from the few remaining anti-gays to their next defeat? More lies, more hate speech meant to demean, demonize and dehumanize LGBT Americans, more implausible scenarios presented as “I have it on the best authority” that they will never cite. Expecting this same unpleasant reaction to spread homophobia has been demonstrated already to be a failure, but anti-gays will soldier on, further annoying Americans and wasting our tax dollars on their obviously unconstitutional Hate Votes and desperately trying to interfere in the lives of others.

  • So what you are saying is that I should lead a life of sadness and complete betrayal toward my humanity and identity (humanity created by God) as long as I keep the Christian God happy? I should be miserable as long as god is happy? I should lead a life that probably will end up submerged in addictions to evade my sadness just as long as I comply with the Christian God? God wants me to be miserable? My being miserabke wont make me a grumpy, sad and unreliable person?

  • Providing a kind of “safety valve” here for anti-gays to whine about their defeat is a public service of this website, but also serves the purpose of identifying anti-gays so law enforcement can monitor them. One enraged, defeated anti-gay poster was making death threats here.

  • But we know for a FACT that anti-gays DO HATE loving, committed same gender couples, because the US Supreme Court ruled that animus–HATRED–was the only reason for the 32 anti-gay Hate Votes that deprived LGBT Americans of their Constitutionally protected right to legal marriage.

    We also know for a FACT that anti-gays DO HATE the many American churches that want to marry same gender couples, because anti-gays deprived these churches of their Freedom Of Religion.

  • Maybe Jesus didnt “fix” him because he didnt need to be “fixed”. To those who pray and contemplate and meditate and speak with God, I’d love them to ask him/her/it why would he make a person gay and then condemn him? And please get back to us cuz I’d really want to know. Isnt God smarter than that? maybe it’s us humans who are causing all the confusion and God is just faceslapping him/herself? As I understand it, homosexuality has existed since monkeys started walking on two feet and in other natural kingdoms, why condemn them when clearly they are part of earth and God’s creation?

  • You’re correct. If God made us, God made LGBT. Sexual orientation, whether gay, bisexual or non-gay, has been shown by science to be inborn and unchangeable as is race, and psychologists have shown being gay or lesbian is just as healthy and “normal” as being non-gay. Here are just 18 of tens of thousands of respected websites (and a citation from Fox News for the doubters) that document this:

    http://www-news dot uchicago dot edu/releases/03/differential-brain-activation dot pdf
    http://www dot new scientist dot com/channel/sex/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex dot html
    http://www dot foxiness dot com/story/0,2933,155990,00 dot html
    http://www dot live science dot com/health/060224_gay_genes dot html
    http://www dot springerlink dot com/content/w27453600k586276/
    http://blogs dot discovermagazine dot com/80beats/2008/06/16/172/
    http://articles dot lattices dot com/2008/jun/17/science/sci-gaybrain17
    http://psych dot fullerton dot edu/rlippa/bbc_birthorder dot htm
    http://www dot economist dot com/science/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12465295
    http://www dot abc dot ca/health/story/2006/06/26/brothers=gay dot html
    http://www dot medpagetoday dot com/OBGYN/Pregnancy/3641
    http://www dot sciencedaily dot com/releases/2008/06/080617151845 dot htm
    http://abclocal dot go dot com/kgo/story?section=news/local&id=6209976
    http://www dot apa dot org/topics/sorientation dot html
    http://www dot independent dot co dot uk/news/world/americas/male-homosexuality-influenced-by-genes-us-study-finds-9127683 dot html
    http://borngay dot proton dot org/view dot resource dot php?resourceID=000006
    http://www dot abc dot com/news/magazine-26089486
    http://www dot nbcnews dot com/health/sexual-health/researchers-say-gene-changes-show-whos-gay-n441211

  • Being celibate doesn’t have to be unhappy, unfulfilled, and self-hating. I’m not those things or no more so than straight people I know.

    That said I admit his case, the musician in the article, is interesting to me because he apparently tried to have non-sexual non-romantic “deep friendship” with men and that didn’t work either. Also Protestantism isn’t usually set up to be that supportive of celibates. They’re the people who, mostly, shut down monasteries and hermitages not the ones to build them.

  • You have to pray harder. And give a lot of money to the church. Then pray some more.

  • Some gay people have reproduced, and some do, when we are not busy adopting the castoff, unwanted products of irresponsible, glorious heterosexual reproduction.

    But I agree with you. If he had not been taught from an early age to hate himself by toxic religion that has obsessed itself with what “those people” do with their gentialia, to the extent that all other “sin” is ignored…

    …including the divorce, adultery, illegitimate children and formicating of heterosexuals…

    he would never have tried heterosexual marriage in an effort to cure himself.

  • Sexual activity, of any kind, is a choice. Otherwise it’s being raped.

    But the idea that God requires all to be heterosexually active I think is a bit hard to square with Christian tradition. The early Christians included many who had pledged to virginity. His marriage was a good thing, in the sense his children are good, but Christianity I don’t think should require us to lie.

  • I frankly don’t care what you consider to be sin. And from what I have seen of dominionist Christians who obsess over homosexuality, neither do you.

    Keep your purely theological concerns out of secular law, and I am happy. Look to your own sins– something about logs and specks– instead of obsessing over mine, and I will be even happier.

    Keep in mind, Jesus said that to the woman caught in adultery– not the prostitute. He didn’t say to the people who would stone her– OK, carry on.

    All of us may be sinners, honey, not all of us are throwing stones.

  • I don’t think LGBT people necessarily go to Hell, but Corinthians is in every Christian Bible. It’s not like a forgery of a Medieval zealot or something.

  • I would have said for him to be pagan, as paganism cares not for what ones sexuality is. Since being gay and Christian are irreconcilable, But if Jesus is somehow the end of the mosaic law, ending laws that once allowed parents to stone their children or kill the abominations as they were called back then. Then he can coexist.

  • “However, modern Biblical scholars have proven”

    No they haven’t. You can believe their interpretation, but that doesn’t make it absolute.

  • So you say. But Jesus said something about people who think they have the spiritual cachet to deny heaven to others. Maybe you should do as Jesus commanded, and worry about your own sins instead of claiming that God has confided in the likes of you the status of his relationship with any other soul on the planet.

    And while you’re doing that, perhaps you can find some time to deal with the revilers and slanderers who are posting on their very thread. COrinthians 6 is ironically directed at them as well. Funny how you don’t do that. It’s almost as if you don’t actually care about the things that will prevent entry into heaven.

  • Your life may not be about being happy. Good for you.

    Life isn’t about sex? You’d think from your postings it’s all about sex.

    If your life is about Jesus, more power to you. Does it make you a better person, or does it just make you someone who obsesses about the specks in other people’s eyes while ignoring the beams in your own.

  • “being gay and Christian are irreconcilable”

    That’s a LIE that these denominations that will marry same gender couples have DEBUNKED: Affirming Pentecostal Church International, Alliance of Christian Churches, Anointed Affirming Independent Ministries, The Association of Welcoming and Affirming Baptists, Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), Community of Christ, Conservative Judaism, Ecumenical Catholic Church, Ecumenical Catholic Communion, The Episcopal Church, Evangelical Anglican Church In America, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Global Alliance of Affirming Apostolic Pentecostals, Inclusive Orthodox Church, Moravian Church Northern Province, Metropolitan Community Church, Old Catholic Church, Presbyterian Church USA, Progressive Christian Alliance, Reconciling Pentecostals International, Reconstructionist Judaism, Reform Judaism, Reformed Anglican Catholic Church, Religious Society of Friends (Quakers), Unitarian Universalist Church, United Church of Christ, Unity Church

  • Being forced to do or support things you don’t believe is bullying. Thinking that isn’t projection, it’s pretty standard.

    If I had become a monk like I once wished, I admit being a celibate bisexual played a role in me not doing so, and a Baptist launderer said he wouldn’t wash my robes because he rejects monasticism I might have a right to be ticked off. Forcing him to do something he thinks is wrong, even if I think his reasoning is erroneous, is pushing and to some extent bullying.

    Or if I went to a gay bookstore and asked them to order me a copy of Eve Tushnet’s book on Gay and Catholic, and they said “no” as she believes in celibacy, it would be bullying to tell them this is discriminating against my religion and they must comply with my request.

    People are allowed to have beliefs you, or even I, find irrational or wrong. Making them act like they don’t is a kind of coercion or bullying. You may feel it’s justified bullying, and feel very just about it, but it is what it is. Sometimes coercing people, bullying them, is necessary. So you may not need to pretend you’re not actually doing what is obvious you’re doing.

  • It’s deeply offensive of anti-gay posters to post death threats here:

    “stone their children or kill the abominations”

  • Yes, as the words of someone who never met Jesus, and included for political reasons. Read on, you will see anti-gays routinely claim falsely that Paul is “the word of God.”

  • These denominations believe that and will marry same gender couples: Affirming Pentecostal Church International, Alliance of Christian Churches, Anointed Affirming Independent Ministries, The Association of Welcoming and Affirming Baptists, Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), Community of Christ, Conservative Judaism, Ecumenical Catholic Church, Ecumenical Catholic Communion, The Episcopal Church, Evangelical Anglican Church In America, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Global Alliance of Affirming Apostolic Pentecostals, Inclusive Orthodox Church, Moravian Church Northern Province, Metropolitan Community Church, Old Catholic Church, Presbyterian Church USA, Progressive Christian Alliance, Reconciling Pentecostals International, Reconstructionist Judaism, Reform Judaism, Reformed Anglican Catholic Church, Religious Society of Friends (Quakers), Unitarian Universalist Church, United Church of Christ, Unity Church

  • These represent a very small percentage of global Christianity. (And Jewish denominations would be largely irrelevant to the “actively-gay and Christian” thing.) Other than some small Theosophist Christians no Christian denomination accepted same-gender marriage before maybe the mid-1950s and it was extremely rare before the mid-1970s.

  • Well, of course anti-gays would think the fact most American Jewish congregations will marry same gender couples is “irrelevant,” but it does demonstrate that Jewish Americans reject the anti-gay agenda.

  • In orthodox Christianity the writers of Paul certainly have a human author, but they are part of the Bible. They are traditionally valid as a source of dogma or doctrine.

    If you want to debate interpreting Paul, or separating what is human and cultural from what is valid, I can see that. But seeing Paul as “the barely coherent ramblings of a disturbed misogynist who never met Jesus” is very fringe within the traditions of Christianity. I think hard to justify from both Sola Scriptura and the Councils.

  • Here’s some bait-and-switch:

    “a very small percentage of global Christianity”

    Can you prove that? I can prove that:

    “More than six in ten (62 percent) white mainline Protestants support same-sex marriage. Among white mainline Protestant denominations, support ranges from 69 percent support among white mainline Presbyterians and 68 percent among both white Episcopalians and white Congregationalists/United Church of Christ members, to lower support among white mainline Baptists (53 percent) and white mainline Church of Christ/Disciples (50 percent).

    And while the Catholic Church officially opposes the legalization of same-sex marriage, about six in ten white (61 percent), Hispanic (60 percent), and other non-white Catholics (60 percent) support allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry legally. A majority of orthodox Christians (56 percent) also support same-sex marriage.

    The most supportive major religious groups are Buddhists (84 percent), Jews (77 percent), and Americans who select “Other religion” (75 percent); additionally, more than three-quarters (77 percent) of the religiously unaffiliated also support same-sex marriage.”

    http://publicreligion dot org/2015/04/attitudes-on-same-sex-marriage-by-religious-affiliation-and-denominational-family/# dot VbUcrRNVhBe

  • Well, let’s just say anti-gays depend on Paul, but ignore Jesus. Doesn’t that make anti-gays Paulines and NOT Christians?

  • So many assumptions and misstatements.

    Im not interested in forcing you to approve of my lifestyle. (By the way, it’s a life, not a lifestyle). That’s just your imaginary persecution complex. I don’t care if you approve or if you don’t. I want your purely theological concerns kept out of civil law. But if you want to talk about that subject, let’s talk about antigay adoption bans, don’t ask don’t tell, and sodomy laws. Talk about force! LEt’s talk about marriage bans, which prevented churches and entire denominations that wanted to see their parishioners legally married in their faith tradition from exercising their religious freedom.

    Only Christians of your sort think you are honoring God by denying religious freedom to people who disagree with you. Don’t like gay marriage? Don’t get gay married, don’t attend my wedding. I won’t expect a gift.

    I don’t call Christians bigots and haters be uses they believe homosexuality is a sin, though it usually takes about a minute for those people to go from “homosexuality is a Sin” to “here are all the lies I believe about gay people and here is why they should be denied equal participation in society.” If you want to claim homosexuality is a sin, have at it. If you wish to repeat outright lies as gospel truth in orde to justify your desire to restrict my participation in Society or claim that my children don’t deserve the legal protection that having legally married parents will give them, expect to be called a bigot.

    And while youre at it, perhaps you should STOP attacking other Christians who don’t agree with you about gay people as being Not True Christians, unlike you. Someone might think you’re a religious bigot.

    Because it is very funny. All gay people are asking is to be treated with the same respect and courtesy that you routinely extend to all of the other people in the world whom you believe are going to burn in hell forever, or who reject the totality of your religious beliefs, not just your itty bitty little ditty about the sin of homosexuality.

    If you don’t want to be considered a bigot, don’t act like one.

  • Judging others is a sin. Logs and beams.

    There, I’ve told you about two of your sins. When are you going to start repenting?

  • I don’t believe in your particular, peculiar version of God. I don’t believe in final judgment. I don’t believe in judgement day. But if you’re worried about it, please feel free to look after your own soul.

  • I’m not different then them but I’m better off for when I die I have Christ to save me from God’s wrath of sending me to hell. Warning a blind person about to walk off a cliff is loving and just the same warning someone about hell.

  • Jesus said preach the Gospel. I will never be perfect so I carry on with the great commission of the Gospel.

  • So? That represents a very small minority of the world’s Christians. And Reform Judaism and Unitarian/Universalism aren’t Christian at all. (It’s a bit complicated on U/U as a U/U can be Christian, but they don’t have to be.)

    62% of the world’s Christians are Catholics or Orthodox. Neither faith allows same-gender marriage. Of the Protestant churches it varies, but most Pentecostalism is against it. Just a third of Protestants look to live in the US or Europe. So the majority of the world’s Protestants are likely of churches that don’t have same-gender marriage.

    So I’d gather, by this, at least 80% of the world’s Christians are of denominations that don’t do this. Even in the US it might be a majority considering Catholicism, the Southern Baptists, Assembly of God, and Lutheran Church Missouri-Synod. (My sources are mostly Pew Research Center with some on Wikipedia’s article on denomination positions on the issue.)

  • How sad for Trey. In Christ there is healing for his pain. His 15 minutes of fame will come to an end, and the real test is whether he uses his gifts for the kingdom of God, or is drawn into the LGBT sexual political thrust which makes one’s sexual orientation the central focal point, instead of Christ.

  • he is lying to you then and get away from him. They are more interested in you as a number at that church and your money also.

  • The only ones who make “gay sex” their central focus point are anti-gays–and scientists have proven WHY:

    “Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.”

    http://www dot landman-psychology dot Com/Homophobia%20Associated%20with%20Homosexual%20Arousal dot pdf

    http://psycnet dot apa dot Org/journals/abn/105/3/440/

    An agency of the federal government, the National Institutes of Health, publishes a supporting study:

    http://www dot ncbi dot nlm dot nih dot Gov/pubmed/8772014

    Here’s a video that illustrates that study:

    http://www dot youtube dot Com/watch?v=AEuDDvqYbVw

    How about a You-tube SONG that explains this?

    http://www dot youtube dot Com/watch?v=1CQg9f7z9eg&feature=youtube

  • I never said it did. If celibacy works for you, fine. But Jesus did say something about looking at a woman with lust is the same as committing adultery. I’m sure it has somewhat more general application.

    But celibacy– in the Catholic tradition, I believe this is considered a gift from God, so not everyone gets that gift– doesn’t work for everybody. And it does no good to call yourself celibate, but know that you will “slip” every once in a while– probably no more often than necessary– ask for forgiveness, and live to slip yet again.

    That is one of my biggest objections to the Christian process. Sin and repent, sin and repent, sin and repent, but never change a thing.

  • Well there’s Matthew 19:4-6

    “He answered, Have you never read, how he who created them, when they
    first came to be, created them male and female; and how he said, A man, therefore, will leave his father and mother and will cling to his wife, and the two will become one flesh?”

    Pro-gays point out this in response to a question about a heterosexual couple divorcing, but there is no clear place in the Gospel that refers to a same-sex union. Even the Centurion story is debated.

  • just like everyone else Christianity isn’t about having a happy life. What makes you any different then the poor African children. They just want food but you want sexual satisfaction with the same sex.

  • Most Americans just laugh at this obsession anti-gays tell us again and again they have with “gay sex.” Take a look at television comics, they are all ridiculing this obsession with “gay sex” anti-gays demonstrate. My favorite is Jerry Seinfeld on “The Daily Show.”

  • its doesn’t say that. he was probably like a staff sergeant and his soldier was sick

  • If the Bible said, “Jesus loved oranges,” it would NOT demonstrate that Jesus hated tangerines. Only anti-gays deny the fact that Jesus affirmed a same gender couple.

  • just because you don’t believe doesn’t make it go away. Judgment is coming if you like it or not

  • it’s SPAM. You are not taking part in a discussion, you are shrieking that everyone “must” join your church. Fuggettaboutit.

  • Allegedly.

    It’s at best “curious” this reading doesn’t seem to exist among pre-Nicene Christians and I’m not sure is attested before 1978.

  • You made a mistake suggesting all American Catholics are homophobic:

    “Sixty-two percent of Catholics said they were in favor of legalizing marriage for same-sex couples. Catholics approved of same-sex marriage at a higher rate than Americans as a whole”

    http://www dot nytimes dot com/2013/03/06/us/poll-shows-disconnect-between-us-catholics-and-church dot html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

  • I. Sure you will find any possible excuse to engage in judging others while you are pretending that you are not.

    Logs and specks, my brother inchrist.