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Justices won't step into Mississippi gay rights legal fight

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court is refusing to intervene in a legal fight over a Mississippi law that lets government workers and private businesspeople cite their own religious beliefs to deny services to LGBT people.

Opponents say the law could lead to discrimination against those who support same-sex marriage.

The justices did not comment Monday (Jan. 8) in their decision to leave in place a federal appeals court ruling that allowed the law to take effect. A three-judge panel held that the law's challengers failed to show they would be harmed by it. The appellate judges did not rule on the law's substance.

The legal battle is not over, though. A federal judge has allowed the law's challengers to try to find people who have been denied services under the law because they would be able to make a strong legal claim that they have been harmed.

The Mississippi Legislature drafted and approved the measure in response to the Supreme Court's 2015 decision that legalized same-sex marriage across the country. Gov. Phil Bryant signed it into law in 2016, but it was blocked for more than a year amid several legal challenges. It took effect Oct. 10.

The law says it protects three beliefs: that marriage is only between a man and a woman, that sex should only occur in such a marriage and that a person's gender is determined at birth and cannot be altered.

The law allows county clerks who object to same-sex marriage on religious grounds to avoid issuing licenses to gay and lesbian couples. It also protects merchants who refuse services to LGBT people, and might also affect adoptions and foster care, business practices and school bathroom policies. Opponents say it also allows pharmacies to refuse to fill birth control prescriptions for unmarried women.

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  1. Before people get in a huff, the lower Federal Court decisions never ruled on the merits of the law, only the standing of the plaintiffs. Which is why the Supreme Court did not want to pick it up. The most they could rule is that the plaintiffs have standing and then remand it back down to the lower courts. The Appellate Court gave the opportunity for more appropriate plaintiffs.

    Mississippi’s state motto, “Last in Freedom”

  2. Correct… this issue will be back before the courts on merit at some point in the future.

    Sooner rather than later I’d expect.

  3. The SUPREME COURT knows we are ONE NATION UNDER GOD, and that the LGBTQ insistence on equality OFFENDS God, and all responsible U.S. Citizens, including Mississippians, also know this. FREEDOM to be be without morals results in SLAVERY to perversion and corruption. The upcoming APOCALYPSE will soon prove this. MAGA!

  4. Um no.
    See 1st Amendment Establishment Clause (we are not one nation under your god or anyone’s) and about 20 years of Supreme Court decisions on the subject.
    Romer v. Evans
    Lawrence v. Texas
    United States v. Windsor
    Obergefell v. Hodges

    There is no morality in bigotry or discrimination. Claiming “God says so”, doesn’t change such things.

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  5. “The law says it protects three beliefs: that marriage is only between a man and a woman, that sex should only occur in such a marriage and that a person’s gender is determined at birth and cannot be altered.” What’s this, some actual reality, and it involves something to do with homosexuals? What is this world coming to?

  6. “The SUPREME COURT knows we are ONE NATION UNDER GOD, and that the LGBTQ insistence on equality OFFENDS God,” is not the same as “A three-judge panel held that the law’s challengers failed to show they would be harmed by it. The appellate judges did not rule on the law’s substance.”.
    Your understanding of English, Law and Logic is flawed

    ” all responsible U.S. Citizens, including Mississippians”
    a) Look up “no true Scotsman”
    b) You regard Mississippians citizenship as questionable/substandard?

    “FREEDOM to be be without morals results in SLAVERY to perversion and corruption” – wrong – even were such FREEDOM to exist it wouldn’t necessarily do so – whilst the evidence that religious belief encompasses slavery, perversion and corruption is abundantly clear. (not to mention the childish use of capital letters, irrational outbursts and virulent expressions of ignorant bigotry).

    “The upcoming APOCALYPSE will soon prove this” – Yawn – this is, I take it, the same APOCALYPSE that was supposed to happen 1900+ years ago and promised almost every year since.

    MAGA – Make America Gullible Again?

  7. It can say it protects rain against falling on hard surfaces if it wants – it doesn’t mean it achieves it.

    The beliefs are already protected – as are the human rights of those the bigots who framed this nonsense wish to discriminate against without reasonable consequences.

  8. “and that the LGBTQ insistence on equality OFFENDS God,”

    1. Yeah! How dare we think we are equal to you! Next you’ll be saying that the three times married sexual assaulter is equal to you.

    And

    2. I suspect that the real problem is that it offends YOU.

  9. Thanks, Spuddie. The headline is misleading. RNS needs to deal with that.

    And I agree with you. this wasn’t the case for the Supremes.

    It is sad is how poorly Mississippi is served by its elected representatives. Last in most things and they seem determined to stay there.

  10. And in these days of same sex immorality running rampant, it is interesting to see one still in existence. God bless them!

  11. Is “God bless them” an instruction, an encouragement or a hope? Doesn’t really matter does it – you are admitting that you worship a deity who may not do the best for someone. Nasty, petty-minded, immature godlet isn’t it.

  12. A yellow sticky note to my fellow brothers & sisters in Christ:

    This is so messed up, ‘yo, I don’t know where to begin. But let me give it a shot anyway.

    QUESTION: Is it a sweet-smelling aroma to our God & Jesus that “the law [of the land] says it protects [our] three beliefs: that marriage is only between a man and a woman, that sex should only occur in such a marriage and that a person’s gender is determined at birth and cannot be altered”?

    ANSWER: No, IT STINKS, actually! And here’s why. God & Jesus hates it that “the law [of the land] … protects … [our] beliefs” that They and the 1st apostles and disciples had taught us to believe, when it should’ve been Them, and our church elders and us that are doing all that GUARDING stuff instead. Instead, that is, of “the law [of the land in America]”! Remember these?

    (1) Luke 17:3 – Be on your GUARD! If your brother sins, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. And if he sins against you seven times a day, and returns to you seven times, saying, ‘I repent,’ forgive him.

    (2) Acts 20:28 – Be on GUARD for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.

    (3) Philippians 4:6-7 – Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all comprehension, will GUARD your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

    (4) 1 Timothy 6:20-21 – O Timothy, GUARD what has been entrusted to you, avoiding worldly and empty chatter and the opposing arguments of what is falsely called ‘knowledge’ – which some have professed and thus gone astray from the faith.

    (5) 2 Timothy 1:12-14 – I am not ashamed; for I know whom I have believed and I am convinced that [‘Christ Jesus’] is able to GUARD what I have entrusted to Him until that day. Retain the standard of sound words which you have heard from me, in the faith and love which are in Christ Jesus. GUARD, through the Holy Spirit who dwells in us, the treasure which has been entrusted to you.

    (6) 2 Peter 3:17-18 – You …, beloved, … be on your GUARD so that you are not carried away by the error of unprincipled men and fall from your own steadfastness, but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.

  13. That’s false teaching. My post just now shows that it’s God Himself, and our church elders and we ourselves that should’ve been protecting our sexuality-related beliefs. Not the state. Not the Supreme Court. Not America.

    God says so in:

    Luke 17:3
    Acts 20:28
    Philippians 4:6-7
    1 Timothy 6:20-21
    2 Timothy 1:12-14
    2 Peter 3:17-18

  14. Your comments become sillier and sillier as we go along.

  15. Can you answer the question?

    Why did you write “God bless them”?

  16. Because someone still, in this era of debauchery and licentiousness, cares about the things that God cares about. It is very comforting to see.

  17. No – why “God bless them”? Was it just a habit – like our cousins saying “God willing” after every mention of expectations? Did you expect something to happen that wouldn’t have happened if you didn’t write it?

  18. I was hoping for blessings for them for their dedication. 🙂

  19. Yes. It appears the Supreme Court kicked the can down the road because the plaintiffs didn’t have standing. They weren’t hurt by the legislation. When someone is hurt by the legislation then the Supreme Court might take another look at that legislative can of worms.

  20. I presume you are hoping for good things to happen to them.

    What I don’t understand is how a caring entity can do so – surely part of caring is that one tries to make good things happen – all the time – it’s the normal bit of caring.

    Goodness is not conditional on behaviour – it is either present always or it isn’t.

    If your god might, or might not, do something good for someone, it isn’t wholly good.

    If it isn’t always present the intermittent appearance of goodness is simply manipulation.

    If I’m not trying to make good things happen it means I don’t care.

    If your God’s not trying to make good things happen it means it doesn’t care.

    If your God doesn’t care it’s not a perfect, loving god.

    If your God doesn’t love why, other than out of fear, worship it?

  21. LOL Sandi Luckins you bigoted and LECHEROUS OLD COUGAR. There will be no yawning tolerated for you here when you are still coveting Windy Eddie’s ass like that in front of his beloved Jimmie Shortbeard. You know that your wicked and wrathful god is gonna whup your fat ass hard in HELL for that. Shame on you!

  22. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    in other words congress, cannot pass any law establishing any cult or occult religions. in other words gay rights church, secular rights churches, are as unconstitutional as baptist rights.

    and what, were the religious beliefs were they trying to protect at the time it was written? you cannot pass occult religious laws, that discriminate against any christian or jewish churches. and islam, was not part, of this nations religious beliefs at that time it was written.

    there was only deism, catholicism, protestantism, and judaism at that time it was meant to protect. but insure that none had any legal advantage supported by the us government

  23. you shall make no laws, that discriminates against any christian,jewish, deists beliefs. you, cannot force anyone to worship your occult religion or occult religious beliefs.

    any law, that forces any other religion to accept any other cult or occult religious beliefs is unconstitutional. you cannot legally force anyone to become a baptist, or devil worship.

  24. Not to commit incest with one’s mother (Lev. 18:7).
    Not to commit sodomy with one’s father (Lev. 18:7).
    Not to commit incest with one’s father’s wife (Lev. 18:8).
    Not to commit incest with one’s sister (Lev. 18:9).
    Not to commit incest with one’s father’s wife’s daughter (Lev. 18:11)
    Not to commit incest with one’s son’s daughter (Lev. 18:10).
    Not to commit incest with one’s daughter’s daughter (Lev. 18:10).
    Not to commit incest with one’s daughter.
    Not to commit incest with one’s fathers sister (Lev. 18:12).
    Not to commit incest with one’s mother’s sister (Lev. 18:13).
    Not to commit incest with one’s father’s brothers wife (Lev. 18:14).
    Not to commit sodomy with one’s father’s brother (Lev. 18:14).
    Not to commit incest with one’s son’s wife (Lev. 18:15).
    Not to commit incest with one’s brother’s wife (Lev. 18:16).
    Not to commit incest with one’s wife’s daughter (Lev. 18:17).
    Not to commit incest with the daughter of one’s wife’s son (Lev. 18:17).
    Not to commit incest with the daughter of one’s wife’s daughter (Lev. 18:17).
    Not to commit incest with one’s wife’s sister (Lev. 18:18).
    Not to have intercourse with a woman, in her menstrual period (Lev. 18:19).
    Not to have intercourse with another man’s wife (Lev. 18:20).
    Not to commit sodomy with a male (Lev. 18:22).
    Not to have intercourse with a beast (Lev. 18:23).
    That a woman shall not have intercourse with a beast (Lev. 18:23).
    Not to castrate the male of any species; neither a man, nor a domestic or wild beast, nor a fowl (Lev. 22:24).

  25. Don’t see the words “Christian, Jewish or Deist” in the Constitution. Laws can’t be written to support or endorse any given faith either. (See 1st Amendment)

    Your right to practice your beliefs ends at where it harms others. Discrimination is no more the free exercise of religion than witch burning, forced circumcision of adults, or coerced prayer.

    If your religion forbids you to treat other people with the basic duty of care your profession demands, tough crap. Not the concern for the rest of us.

  26. i, cannot bless who ELOHEEM curses. since it is obvious G-D, has likes and dislikes.

    you shall not recognize the g-ds* of others in MY Presence. you shall not make yourself a carved image or any likeness of that which is in heavens above the earth or below or in the water beneath the earth. you shall not prostrate yourself to them nor worship them, for I-AM ELOHEEM, your ELOHEEM – a jealous ELOHEEM, WHO visits the sins of fathers upon children to the third and fourth generation, for my enemies; but WHO knows kindness for thousands [of generations] to those who love ME and observe MY commandments.

    it is obvious from this portion of The Preamble, that ELOHEEM does not love those who hate THEM. and that ELOHEEM curses those who hate them with physical hell and death. even if your unrealistic delusions, ignores all the physical pestilence, plague, and famine in the world today. this is why you, have never had or have any peace on earth yesteryear, today, or tomorrow.

    from the Eight* Noachide Laws, you can only progress forward to the Laws Given to Moshe for the multitudes of all known nations. anyone who, cannot fulfill all 613 laws is a Noachide.

  27. it is a violation of scripture, to aid, abet, bless, or give sympathy to the subtle talking occult demon critters of the fields. i shall not bless or condone, what ELOHEEM or THEIR Son curses in any way, shape, or form.

    i, shall love what ELOHEEM Loves and curse what ELOHEEM curses.

  28. Holy St. Jibberjabber! Lookee me! Lookee me! I’m an Old Testament prophet!

  29. Have you noticed having relations with people against their will isn’t listed there?
    But it is a crime and a moral outrage. Unless you are an Evangelical Christian of course:

    Evangelical congregation gives pastor standing ovation for admitting he raped a high-schoolerhttps://boingboing.net/2018/01/10/rape-religion.html

  30. Beardbun, Jimmie Shortbeard, remember! BEARDBUN!

    You have a lot of growing to do or else ELOAHEMAHEMWOOTWOOT won’t let you into the RAPTURE CAPSULE with the Unicorns and Sandi Luckins the lecherous old cougar will run away with your beloved husband Windy Eddie! She’s already got a leg up on him in Preamble!!!

  31. Beardbun, Jimmie Shortbeard, remember! BEARDBUN!

    You have a lot
    of growing to do or else ELOAHEMAHEMWOOTWOOT won’t let you into the
    RAPTURE CAPSULE with the Unicorns and Sandi Luckins the lecherous old
    cougar will run away with your beloved husband Windy Eddie! She’s
    already got a leg up on him in Preamble!

  32. Beardbun, Jimmie Shortbeard, remember! BEARDBUN!

    You have a lot
    of growing to do of that embarrassing little scruff on your face or else ELOAHEMAHEMWOOTWOOT won’t let you into the
    RAPTURE CAPSULE with the Unicorns and Sandi Luckins the lecherous old
    cougar will run away with your beloved husband Windy Eddie! She’s
    already got a leg up on him in Preamble!!!

    Chin DOWN, beans in. Get on it!

  33. Jimmie Shortbeard, you missed the most important commandment:

    Lev 1:420123456789 grow a BEARDBUN!

    Your little scruff does NOT suffice, so remember, CHIN DOWN, BEANS IN!

  34. Not to mention, not believing that Jesus died for your sins.

    I read about Mr. Savage— gotta love the name— yesterday. The evangelicals sure do love their sin and redemption stories, don’t they? You could do just about anything.

  35. Avoid, ignore, dismiss – rinse and repeat – but reason and logic will prevail.

  36. That’s easy. Just answer this 1 stay-on-topic, relevant question:

    Who’s supposed to take guard of these laws of Moses? God’s chosen people, the Jews? (Hint: you’re citing the Torah, Leviticus.) Or God’s enemies I mean secularists, the Americans? (Hint: this article points to this latter – i.e. “the law [of the land] says it protects … beliefs” – without identifying WHOSE “beliefs”.)

  37. You are both psychologically insane and a political fascist. There is not going to be any apocalypse.

  38. Your picture looks like one of a madman and your comments indicate you are one.

  39. Funny. You are calling treating people with the bare minimum of courtesy society expects being “forced”.

    You poor little baby, so annoyed you can’t maliciously attack people under color of law. Oh well.

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