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From ‘Judeo-Christian’ to ‘Potluck Nation,’ Eboo Patel pleads for religious pluralism

Author Eboo Patel. Image courtesy of IFYC

(RNS) — Eboo Patel, a Muslim social activist who was born in India, is best-known as the founder and president of the Interfaith Youth Core, a nonprofit organization that partners with some 500 American colleges and universities to work on interfaith programming.

Now he’s written a new book, “Out of Many Faiths: Religious Diversity and the American Promise” (Sept. 4), the third in a series of books by scholars addressing issues of diversity called “Our Compelling Interests.”

In it, he offers a passionate defense of American religious diversity as one of the seminal features of U.S. democracy, stretching back to the vision of the Founding Fathers, who he says got it “exactly right.”  He also proposes a new narrative to replace the Judeo-Christian motto with “Potluck Nation,” which he thinks better describes today’s religious diversity.

Patel, who is 42 and lives in Chicago, is hopeful about America’s vision and believes good can come out of bad. The following interview was edited for length and clarity.

Why this book?

The story of religious diversity in American history is a story that ought to inspire us to do good work today. I wanted to tell that story, especially at a time of really ugly prejudice and discrimination and tension. Reminding people of the inspiring story that is America and religious diversity and encouraging them to be interfaith leaders I think is really important right now.

What is the state of interfaith work in the age of Trump? Has it changed? Do you see setbacks?

Barack Obama in his inaugural address talked about America being made up of Christians and Muslims and Jews and Hindus and nonbelievers and all of these communities finding dignity and welcome in America and contributing to the American project. We at Interfaith Youth Core felt part of the zeitgeist. In fact, we were working with the White House on a major program called the President’s Interfaith Campus and Community Service Partnership.

Clearly, the messages from the White House are very different now. What’s really interesting about this moment is that so much good comes out of responding to bad.

We have this great opportunity to respond to that in ways that live up to American ideas of welcoming diverse religious identity and moving toward an interfaith America.

How do you respond to Christian nationalism? Many people are waking up to it for the first time.

What’s remarkable about the American project is that our founders, Washington, Madison, Jefferson, Franklin, envision America as the world’s first religiously diverse democracy. Of all the different dimensions of identity we talk about today — race, gender, sexuality — religious diversity is the dimension of diversity that the founders got pretty much exactly right. The things they said about religious diversity in the late 18th century, we would quote today with pride when it comes to welcoming current American religious diversity.

I am trying to live up to the ideal of the founders in helping to build a healthy, religiously diverse democracy. That’s what I call an interfaith leader and that’s what I invite people to be.

You write in your book about the importance of developing a narrative inclusive of our new social reality. What does that narrative sound like?

“Out Of Many Faiths: Religious Diversity and the American Promise” by Eboo Patel. Image courtesy of Princeton Press

One of my standard opening jokes when I speak on college campuses is, “You know when the Pilgrims arrived and they dusted off Plymouth Rock, they saw the words ‘Judeo-Christian Nation’ etched in that rock.” Then I’ll pause, as these bright 18-year-olds look at me, and I’ll say, “That’s a joke.”

What actually happened is that in the 1920s, the KKK unleashes anti-Semitism, anti-Catholicism and anti-black prejudice and one of the ways interfaith leaders back then responded was to create a new narrative of America they called a “Judeo-Christian” nation.

It’s not especially accurate. It’s not like Jews and Christians view Jesus in the same way. It’s not historically accurate. It’s not like Jews have fared well in Christians’ lands for millennia. But it was genius language for a national narrative that welcomed religious communities that were being discriminated against. I think we need that kind of narrative now.

In the book I call it a “Potluck Nation.” At a potluck, you don’t want everyone to bring mashed potatoes. You want people to bring dishes that are distinct. You think to yourself, I’m really glad she brought hummus, and another person brought kebabs and another person a soufflé, dishes distinctive to their identity and heritage.

You devote a chapter to Cordoba House, the quashed plan to build a Muslim community center near Ground Zero. Why?

Cordoba House was the first post-Sept. 11 high-profile civic contribution by a Muslim community. It’s not principally a mosque. It was meant for public benefit, like a Catholic university or a hospital started by Methodists. That publicly focused project met with this unbelievable amount of Islamophobia. It also is a place where a set of people who went on to inspire the Trump campaign had their first high-profile, anti-Muslim victory, so to speak.

But America has been built by a variety of Cordoba Houses; the hospitals and colleges and schools and nonprofit organizations that religious communities have built to serve the public good. American civil society rests on those institutions. Well, Muslims are right now a large enough community in America. We want to start making similar public contributions, inspired by Islam, meant to serve America. Shouldn’t we all be welcoming this?

Are there examples that give you hope today?

I end the book with a story of an organization called the Inner-City Muslim Action Network or IMAN, based on the southwest side of Chicago. They created the first permanent memorial to Martin Luther King Jr. in the city of Chicago. There are parts of the memorial that honor rabbis and imams and female Christian leaders and their role in interfaith cooperation. Those kinds of organizations, like IMAN, like Interfaith Youth Core, because of the ugly prejudice we’re seeing, there are so many people saying, ‘I want to work for a different America.’ The ugliness of prejudice catalyzes the forces of pluralism into action. I believe we’re seeing that again and I believe we need more of that.

How has the Interfaith Youth Core fared recently?

Our work is on college campuses and it has grown dramatically. We’re seeing growth in the number of faculty teaching interfaith courses, the number of students who are running interfaith projects. We run an Interfaith Leadership Institute each year. This past August, we had nearly 150 campus delegations.

You mention in your book that when your grandmother from India came to visit you in high school you were embarrassed. Tell me how you moved beyond that?

I’m in high school and my grandmother is dressed traditionally and she speaks with an Indian accent and I’m at this largely white junior high school in the western suburbs of Chicago and I’m visibly embarrassed by this. The next day my teacher calls me up to her desk and she says, ‘Eboo, what’s going on?’ and I said, ‘My grandmother doesn’t act like an American.’ And she says, ‘Your grandmother from India reminds me of my grandmother from Italy. As soon as my grandmother stepped onto these shores and contributed to this country she became an American. That’s what it means to be an immigrant nation.’

For me, that’s a great example of an educator noticing something about a student and seeing the connection between three generations ago and immigrants of today.

The term “immigrant nation” is an invented term. In that national narrative, we allow people who arrive on these shores and contribute to this nation to feel welcome as Americans. I hope this idea of America as a potluck nation takes off. This is a country that welcomes the contributions of people of all identities to the American table because if distinct communities do not contribute, the nation does not feast.

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  • We are at the point in America where about half of the people in the country think Donald Trump is Judeo-Christian God’s gift to the world. The other half think that the rise of Donald Trump in America is more likely a proof that Judeo-Christian God does not exist. Ever heard of food fight at the potluck dinner?

  • I have said that America is a Giant Stew Pot instead of a melting pot. But I like this idea of Potluck Nation better.

    The melting pot narrative was never accurate. People never melted into one homogenous mass. We were more like a good stew where each of the ingredients retained its own identity, a carrot still looks and tastes like a carrot, a potatoe looks and tastes and has the texture of a potatoe, they simply get enhanced by all the other ingredients in the pot.

  • Is Eboo Patel actually working for a better world? Or for Eboo Patel??

    Eboo Patel pays himself well ($269,444/yr.) from his Interfaith Youth Core “non-profit” group’s receipts (donations etc.) which, based on the group’s IRS Form 990, appears to be more of a stock holding company ($2,734,666 portfolio in 2016- guidestar.org, ) for Mr. Patel than it is a non-profit. Non-profits do not pay taxes on dividends, interest or capital gains. Then there are those other expenses Eboo gets reimbursed for. Travel, fund raising etc. Nice work if you can get it.

    And did Eboo Patel’s Interfaith Youth Core work for Obama’s election campaign as we see Eboo is not only on the Chicago Council of Global Affairs’ task force but also was on Obama’s Faith advisory council?

    Did a Faith Initiative grant from the State Department help defray the cost of CCOGA’s report and Mr. Patel’s task force pay?

    Hmmmm??????????????

  • In place of purchasing another one of Eboo’s money making schemes and free to all:

    From the studies of Armstrong, Rushdie, Hirsi Ali, Richardson and Bayhaqi————–

    The Five Steps To Deprogram 1400 Years of Patel’s Islamic Myths:

    ( –The Steps take less than two minutes to finish- simply amazing, two minutes to bring peace and rationality to over one billion lost souls- Priceless!!!)

    Are you ready?

    Using “The 77 Branches of Islamic “faith” a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true “faith” (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings.” i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.

    The First Five of the 77 Branches:

    “1. Belief in Allah”

    aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your self-cleansing neurons.

    “2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence.”

    Evolution and the Big Bang or the “Gib Gnab” (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the “akas” for Allah should be included if you continue to be a “creationist”.

    “3. To believe in the existence of angels.”

    A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/devils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hittites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No “pretty/ugly wingy thingies” ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as fairies and “tinker bells”. Modern devils are classified as the demons of the demented.

  • Continued from above:

    “4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore.”

    Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.

    Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the uneducated masses in line. Today we call them fortune tellers.

    Prophecies are also invalidated by the natural gifts of Free Will and Future.

    “5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) alone.”

    Mohammed spent thirty days “fasting” (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a “pretty wingy thingy”. Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic violence i.e. turning Mohammed’s “fast, hunger-driven” hallucinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.

    Walk these Five Steps and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!

    Unfortunately, there are not many Muslim commentators/readers on this blog so the “two-minute” cure is not getting to those who need it. If you have a Muslim friend, send him a copy and help save the world.

    Analogous steps are available at your request for deprogramming the myths of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Paganism..

  • Eboo Patel’s Potluck Nation concept encourages interfaith religious pluralism.
    Jesus, as Rabbi teacher extraordinaire, enters the world of numerous competing views and opinions. He offers people the opportunity to be born from above by repentance of sins and receiving his Spirit into their lives in Matthew 9:35-38. Some will respond favorably, most will not. In Matthew 13:24-30, Jesus explained in his parable of the wheat and the weeds growing together, that different and competing ideas with flourish together until the harvest. Jesus offered this opportunity to the Jews first, then to anyone who chooses to respond to his offer. Multiple perspectives will compete for attention. Jesus offers numerous miracles and his resurrection from death, as reported by numerous eyewitnesses of his experiences, as evidence of his ability to save a person from their sins and rebirth their lives by his Spirit as explained in Luke 24:44-48.

  • Wayne, Wayne, Wayne…..

    “Jesus offers numerous miracles and his resurrection from death, as reported by numerous eyewitnesses of his experiences, as evidence of his ability to save a person from their sins and rebirth their lives by his Spirit

    Believe it if you will, but it’s not strictly factual is it? It needs the irrational belief that its source is a reflection of reality; and that pretty much requires circular reasoning.

    As I see it

    The stories of the Jesus portrayed in the Gospels which were selected for inclusion in the Bible offer numerous miracles and his resurrection from death, as reported by people writing thirty+ years after the alleged events and claiming to be based upon numerous eyewitnesses of his experiences despite the absence of true independent confirmation, as evidence of his ability to save a person from their sins and rebirth their lives by his Spirit.

    Unfortunately, despite the acknowledged fact that some converts, to all religions and to none, appear to change their lives dramatically after their change of heart

    a) most don’t.
    b) some who do backslide
    c) there is no evidence that the belief which coincides with the lifestyle change
    1 – is important in content, pretty much any version of belief will do and
    2 – actually causes the change – it may simply be an excuse by which the change is justified.

    At least one of us is mistaken.

  • This idea of a ‘melting pot’ was never the founders vision. It was a jew, emma lazarus who wrote that poem. Combine ‘this’ with the Coudenhave-Kalergi plan for White Genocide and we now know the score.

    “The key to solving the social problems of our age is to abolish the White race.” Noel Ignatiev, Harvard Professor

  • White Supremacist likes to deny that this is a nation founded by immigrants and refugees. How typical.

    White Genocide = White racist males are admitting their inadequacy in mating with white women and blame minorities for their incel status.

    Roy, it isn’t the Jews or racial minorities keeping you from procreating. Its your personality.

  • Religious pluralism is deeply ingrained in our national culture. Its called showing respect for the idea that people do not share your beliefs/faiths. Religious freedom is premised on such things.

    I ignored the rest of your post as you clearly don’t really understand why such things are of a benefit to society.

  • Following the comments of Givethedogabone below:

    Matt 9:36 = Mark 6:35-44, fails rigorous historic testing, http://www.faithfutures.org/JDB/jdb003.html

    “Luedemann [Jesus, 45] offers the following historical judgment of the account in Mark 6:

    The formation of this story derives from the needs of the community. Its historical value is nil. Anyone is free to accept the table fellowship of Jesus and his followers as a starting point for the rise of this story. But that is rather different from the feeding of the 5000. ”

    Matt 13: 24-30

    From Professor Gerd Ludemann’s studies published in his book, Jesus After 2000 Years, p.183: “The parable is inauthentic, as it reflects a community situation. Moreover Jesus himself saw the devil fall (Luke 10:18) so that he can no longer have an effect as in the present parable. ”

    Luke 24: 44-48, a single attestation thereby failing rigorous historic testing, http://www.faithfutures.org/JDB/jdb479.html . See also Ludemann’s conclusion as above on p. 415. “The historical yield is nil……………… “

  • Dog, you and likeminded others, are quite the thinkers. I respect that. I am not as smart as you and others are.
    I refer to those historical scholars and textual criticism experts who work directly with the historical documents of the New Testament.

    As Professor Daniel B. Wallace states: It is true that the NT manuscripts contain thousands of wording differences. It is also true that a few favorite passages are of dubious authenticity. But this is not the whole picture. Christians can, in fact, have a very high degree of confidence that what they have in their hands today is the Word of God.
    When it comes to the temporal distance of the earliest copies of the NT from the original, NT textual critics again enjoy an abundance of materials. From 10 to 15 NT manuscripts were written within the first 100 years of the completion of the NT. To be sure, they are all fragmentary, but some of them are fairly sizable fragments, covering large portions of the Gospels or Paul’s letters, for example. Within two centuries, the numbers increase to at least four dozen manuscripts. Of manuscripts produced before A.D. 400, an astounding 99 still exist—including the oldest complete NT, Codex Sinaiticus.
    Should the presence of textual variants, then, undermine the confidence of ordinary laypersons as they read the Bible in their own language? No—actually, the opposite is the case. The abundance of variants is the result of the very large number of remaining NT manuscripts, which itself gives a stronger, not weaker, foundation for knowing what the original manuscripts said.
    In sum, although scholars may not be certain of the NT wording in a number of verses, for the vast majority of the words in the NT the modern English translations accurately represent what the original authors wrote.
    Professor Daniel B. Wallace, Executive Director, Center For The Study Of New Testament Manuscripts (CSNTM) (historical documents posted online)
    http://www.csntm.org/

    As Professor Larry W. Hurtado states: There is variation, to be sure. But the variation is relatively minor, and none of the supposedly major textual changes posited show up. There are, certainly, some variants that textual critics find “significant,” but they are small and not the sort of thing that some imagine.
    In short, those texts that early became the “textual property” of Christian circles (i.e., read in churches) seem to have enjoyed a comparatively greater stability in transmission.
    In sum, the general weight of manuscript evidence of biblical writings reflects a relatively conscientious copying of these texts. That’s not an apologetic tactic, just a statement of the evidence. Whatever you make of the contents of these writings, the early Christians seem, by and large, to have transmitted them with some impressive care.
    Larry W. Hurtado, PhD, FRSE
    Professor of New Testament Language, Literature & Theology (University of Edinburgh)

    In Acts 9, the resurrected Jesus changed the life of Saul of Tarsus, and likewise, Jesus Christ beneficially changed my life also.

  • Dog, you and likeminded others, are quite the thinkers. I respect that. I am not as smart as you and others are.
    I refer to those historical scholars and textual criticism experts who work directly with the historical documents of the New Testament.

    As Professor Daniel B. Wallace states: It is true that the NT manuscripts contain thousands of wording differences. It is also true that a few favorite passages are of dubious authenticity. But this is not the whole picture. Christians can, in fact, have a very high degree of confidence that what they have in their hands today is the Word of God.
    When it comes to the temporal distance of the earliest copies of the NT from the original, NT textual critics again enjoy an abundance of materials. From 10 to 15 NT manuscripts were written within the first 100 years of the completion of the NT. To be sure, they are all fragmentary, but some of them are fairly sizable fragments, covering large portions of the Gospels or Paul’s letters, for example. Within two centuries, the numbers increase to at least four dozen manuscripts. Of manuscripts produced before A.D. 400, an astounding 99 still exist—including the oldest complete NT, Codex Sinaiticus.
    Should the presence of textual variants, then, undermine the confidence of ordinary laypersons as they read the Bible in their own language? No—actually, the opposite is the case. The abundance of variants is the result of the very large number of remaining NT manuscripts, which itself gives a stronger, not weaker, foundation for knowing what the original manuscripts said.
    In sum, although scholars may not be certain of the NT wording in a number of verses, for the vast majority of the words in the NT the modern English translations accurately represent what the original authors wrote.
    Professor Daniel B. Wallace, Executive Director, Center For The Study Of New Testament Manuscripts (CSNTM) (historical documents posted online)
    http://www.csntm.org/

    As Professor Larry W. Hurtado states: There is variation, to be sure. But the variation is relatively minor, and none of the supposedly major textual changes posited show up. There are, certainly, some variants that textual critics find “significant,” but they are small and not the sort of thing that some imagine.
    In short, those texts that early became the “textual property” of Christian circles (i.e., read in churches) seem to have enjoyed a comparatively greater stability in transmission.
    In sum, the general weight of manuscript evidence of biblical writings reflects a relatively conscientious copying of these texts. That’s not an apologetic tactic, just a statement of the evidence. Whatever you make of the contents of these writings, the early Christians seem, by and large, to have transmitted them with some impressive care.
    Larry W. Hurtado, PhD, FRSE
    Professor of New Testament Language, Literature & Theology (University of Edinburgh)

    In Acts 9, the resurrected Jesus changed the life of Saul of Tarsus, and likewise, Jesus Christ beneficially changed my life also.

  • Greetings Rational Conclusions, thanks for your provocative challenge. You are certainly smarter than I am, but I am willing to give it a shot.
    There is no reference or indication that the needs of the community created or embellished the early stories. There were too many people who saw and heard Jesus to get away with embellishments of stories. The Pharisees and priests-scholars were accustomed to documenting covenant faith, and covenant failure experiences of the community in Deuteronomy 17:18-20. The Pharisees and priests-scholars were sharply divided in their opinions of Jesus in John 9:16.
    In Gerd Luddeman’s debate with Professor William Lane Craig, Craig pointed out that some of Luddeman’s explanations of the resurrection of Jesus had long ago been discredited. But, Luddeman continued to promote them anyway. Luddeman’s excessive bias was admitted when he said that no supernatural explanation was acceptable as an historical hypothesis. What???? You take history for what is stated in the historical documents.
    Besides, the second generation disciples, trained under the apostles, would have noted embellishments and carelessness in their writings. These were known as Apostolic Fathers. Here, again, Rational Conclusions (RC), all of this is academic exercise. The application for the 21st Century is that Jesus Christ still changes the lives of people who receive him into their lives. What a blessing! Jesus Christ loves you RC!

  • Thanks for your comment, Spuddie. I may not be the best, but I try the best way I know how to represent Jesus who saved me from my sins. I give it my best shot, but it’s not always the best.

  • Dog, you and likeminded others, are quite the thinkers. I respect that. I am not as smart as you and others are.
    I refer to those historical scholars and textual criticism experts who work directly with the historical documents of the New Testament.
    As Professor Daniel B. Wallace states: It is true that the NT manuscripts contain thousands of wording differences. It is also true that a few favorite passages are of dubious authenticity. But this is not the whole picture. Christians can, in fact, have a very high degree of confidence that what they have in their hands today is the Word of God.
    When it comes to the temporal distance of the earliest copies of the NT from the original, NT textual critics again enjoy an abundance of materials. From 10 to 15 NT manuscripts were written within the first 100 years of the completion of the NT. To be sure, they are all fragmentary, but some of them are fairly sizable fragments, covering large portions of the Gospels or Paul’s letters, for example. Within two centuries, the numbers increase to at least four dozen manuscripts. Of manuscripts produced before A.D. 400, an astounding 99 still exist—including the oldest complete NT, Codex Sinaiticus.
    Should the presence of textual variants, then, undermine the confidence of ordinary laypersons as they read the Bible in their own language? No—actually, the opposite is the case. The abundance of variants is the result of the very large number of remaining NT manuscripts, which itself gives a stronger, not weaker, foundation for knowing what the original manuscripts said.
    In sum, although scholars may not be certain of the NT wording in a number of verses, for the vast majority of the words in the NT the modern English translations accurately represent what the original authors wrote.
    Professor Daniel B. Wallace, Executive Director, Center For The Study Of New Testament Manuscripts (CSNTM) (historical documents posted online)
    http://www.csntm.org/

  • As Professor Larry W. Hurtado states: There is variation, to be sure. But the variation is relatively minor, and none of the supposedly major textual changes posited show up. There are, certainly, some variants that textual critics find “significant,” but they are small and not the sort of thing that some imagine.
    In short, those texts that early became the “textual property” of Christian circles (i.e., read in churches) seem to have enjoyed a comparatively greater stability in transmission.
    In sum, the general weight of manuscript evidence of biblical writings reflects a relatively conscientious copying of these texts. That’s not an apologetic tactic, just a statement of the evidence. Whatever you make of the contents of these writings, the early Christians seem, by and large, to have transmitted them with some impressive care.
    Larry W. Hurtado, PhD, FRSE
    Professor of New Testament Language, Literature & Theology (University of Edinburgh)

    In Acts 9, the resurrected Jesus changed the life of Saul of Tarsus, and likewise, Jesus Christ beneficially changed my life also.

  • American Jewess Barbara Lerner Spectre, moved to Sweden and founded Paideia – The European Institute for Jewish Studies in Sweden. In a 2010 interview with Israeli IBA-News Barbara Lerner Spectre stated:
    “Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think WE are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies that THEY once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the center of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. THEY are now going into a multicultural mode, and Jews will be resented because of OUR leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.” https://youtu.be/MFE0qAiofMQ

  • Wesley Clark stated: “There is no place in modern europe for ethnically pure states, that’s a 19th century idea and we are trying to transition into the 21st century, and we are going to do it with multi-ethnic states.” https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/1999/kosovo-and-far-right

    — Oh look, another (((COHENcidence))).

    (((Wesley Clark))) told The Jewish Week in New York, that his ancestors were not just Jews, but members of the priestly caste of Kohens. https://www.jta.org/2003/09/17/life-religion/features/wesley-clarks-jewish-roots

    Jewish American General Wesley Clark, led the 78 day NATO bombing of Orthodox Christian Serbia, in 1999 which tore away Serbia’s Orthodox Christian heartland, Kosovo and handed it over to the Narco, organ trafficking Islamic Albanian KLA. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/dec/14/kosovo-prime-minister-llike-mafia-boss

  • Yascha Mounk, is a German born (Jewish) Lecturer on Political Theory at Harvard University’s Government Department, who was interviewed on German state run TV about why “evil right wing populists” are on the rise in Germany and Europe.

    Yascha Mounk gives three reasons and either intentionally or accidentally admits, quote: “We’re trying a historically unique experiment: Transforming a mono-ethnic, mono-cultural society into a multi-ethnic one.”

    WATCH: Harvard Elite Insider Yascha Mounk Admits Turning European Countries Multi-Ethnic Is An Experiment. https://youtu.be/_4EZpUb9CJU

  • No, JC does not love me or you or anyone else since he lies a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of Jerusalem.

    And regarding the Gospel of John:

    From Professor Bruce Chilton in his book, Rabbi Jesus,

    “Conventionally, scholarship has accorded priority to the first three
    gospels in historical work on Jesus, putting progressively less credence in
    works of late date. John’s Gospel for example is routinely dismissed as a
    source……

    From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_John#Authorship

    “Since “the higher criticism” of the 19th century, some historians have largely rejected the
    gospel of John as a reliable source of information about the historical Jesus.[3][4]
    “[M]ost commentators regard the work as anonymous,”[5] and date it to
    90-100.”

    “The authorship has been disputed since at least the second century, with mainstream Christianity believing that
    the author is John the Apostle, son of Zebedee. Modern experts usually consider
    the author to be an unknown non-eyewitness, though many apologetic Christian
    scholars still hold to the conservative Johannine view that ascribes authorship
    to John the Apostle.”

    And from Professor Gerd Ludemann, in his
    book, Jesus After 2000 Years, p. 416,

    “Anyone looking for the historical Jesus will not find him in the Gospel of John. “

  • And quoting from Deuteronomy? Said book was written by Jewish scribes as Moses the reported author is a myth.

    “New Torah For Modern Minds” New York Times origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482
    NY Times review and important enough to reiterate

    “Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. (prob·a·bly

    Adverb:

    Almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell).

    The entire Exodus story as recounted inthe Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls
    of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

    Such startling propositions — the product of findings by archaeologists digging in
    Israel and its environs over the last 25 years — have gained wide acceptance
    among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these
    ideas or to discuss them with the laity — until now.

    The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million
    Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and
    commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called ”Etz
    Hayim” (”Tree of Life” in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that
    incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and
    the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it
    represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious
    mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine document.”

  • the idea of people melting together in america was first mentioned by the author of “letters from an american farmer” published in 1782 . he had written it during the 7 years just prior to the revolutionary war : “Here individuals of all nations are melted into a new race of men, whose labours and posterity will one day cause great changes in the world.”

    so the idea was not new to the untied states, nor was it an alien idea . it was hardwired into us by the time of the constitution was written . the idea of a pot was new, but doing melting in a container is only reasonable .

  • i thank you, yonat shimron, for giving me an enlarged history for the phrase “beyond the pale” . as an irish american the pale meant simply the area of old ireland that was under the control of england and was, to them, “civilized” . the rest of the irish were beyond the pale and thus wild ones . something that to most young is not necessarily a bad thing . comparable to taking an insult, putting a feather in one’s cap and making a ditty about it .

    with the knowledge of the pale in russia i will look for further meanings possible of legal oppression moving into menace that would have eluded me before .

  • as millions of jews were murdered in a presumed christian europe, are you expecting a stirring defense of christian europe by those who survived ?

  • as a general clark did not originate the order to do so . you might find a christian or two also involved .

  • are you really this anti-semitic ? i see the evidence yet still cannot understand why one would be . such a god-forsaken ideology .

  • Speaking of God-forsaken ideologies, the views of former Chief Sephardic Rabbi of Israel, Ovadiah Yosef, were republished by the official Jewish Telegraphic Agency https://www.jta.org/2010/10/18/news-opinion/israel-middle-east/sephardi-leader-yosef-non-jews-exist-to-serve-jews
    ♦ “Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel.”
    ♦ “Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat,” he said to laughter during a weekly sermon.
    ♦ “With gentiles, it will l be like any person: They need to die, but God will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is his servant. That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-cheif-rabbi-black-people-monkeys-yitzhak-yosef-talmud-sephardic-a8267666.html
    One of Israel’s chief rabbis, Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef, called black people “monkeys” during his weekly sermon. During his weekly sermon, the rabbi used a derogatory Hebrew term for a black person, before going on to call a black person a “monkey,” according to footage published by the Ynet news site.

  • Recently, we ran video of a little-known 2007 talk by General Wesley Clark (Ret.). It was, to say the least, explosive. Clark said that shortly after 9/11, on a visit to the Pentagon, he was told of a memo laying out plans to use the 2001 attacks as a justification to invade seven countries in five years. https://www.businessinsider.com/who-exclusive-gen-wesley-clark-on-oil-war-and-activism-2012-9/?r=AU&IR=T

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/sep/03/worlddispatch.iraq
    The “skittles theory” of the Middle East – that one ball aimed at Iraq can knock down several regimes. Its roots can be traced, at least in part, to a paper intended as a political blueprint for the incoming government of Israel’s NETANYAHU. The paper was published in 1996 by Israeli thinktank, the Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies, and entitled: “A CLEAN BREAK: A NEW STRATEGY FOR SECURING THE REALM.” http://www.dougfeith.com/docs/Clean_Break.pdf
    Israel can shape its strategic environment, in cooperation with Turkey and Jordan, by weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria. This effort can focus on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq — an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right — as a means of foiling Syria’s regional ambitions.

    You might also want to check out the article entitled, “Greater Israel”: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East. The Infamous “Oded Yinon Plan”. http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815

    A European commission opinion poll that claims 60% of Europeans see Israel as the greatest threat to world peace has drawn outraged denunciations of anti-semitism. The poll surveyed 7,500 people in 15 EU countries who said Israel was a bigger threat to world peace than Iran, North Korea and the US. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/nov/03/eu.israel

    According to a study published in 2011 by the University of Bielefeld, some 150 million Europeans view Israel as satanic. https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/Europes-criminal-view-of-Israel-311731

  • http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1270038.stm
    “It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable. The Lord shall return the Arabs’ deeds on their own heads, waste their seed and exterminate them, devastate them and vanish them from this world.” — (Israel’s Chief Sephardic Rabbi, Ovadiah Yosef.) ♦ “waste their seed” is a reference to Palestinian children.
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/jerusalem-closes-down-for-rabbi-ovadia-yosefs-funeral/
    800,000 Israelies, or 16 percent of the Jewish population of that country—turned up to pay their respects at the funeral Chief Sephardic Rabbi of Israel, Ovadiah Yosef, making it the largest funeral in Israeli history. The man they chose to honour promoted wholesale genocide of the Palestinians.

  • In a 2002 interview with American journalist Amy Goodman, Former Israeli Minister Shulamit Aloni said that charges of antisemitism are “a trick we use” to suppress criticism of Israel coming from within the United States, for criticism coming from Europe “we bring up the Holocaust.” https://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/14507

    “We always use the anti-Semitism trick or bring up the Holocaust.” — (Former Israeli Minister Shulamit Aloni) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW3a1bw5XlE

  • — Yet another (((COHENcidence))). Every. Single. Time.

    The Washington Post reported Feb. 4 that Secretary of State Madeleine Albright’s parents were Jewish converts to Catholicism and that her grandparents died in the Holocaust. Albright declared, “This was obviously a major surprise to me. I have never been told this.” http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_gist/1997/02/did_she_know.html

    Christian Serbs sheltered Madeleine Albright from the Nazis in WW2, when she was a child, she repaid the Serbian people, by being the leading proponent for NATO airstrikes on Serbia in 1999.

    Observe as (((Madeleine Albright))) hatefully says: “Disgusting Serbs” 1 minute, 3 seconds into this clip. https://youtu.be/1FaPuBUY558

  • “For perhaps another generation, an optimistic forecast, the Jewish community is thus in a position where it will be able to DIVIDE AND CONQUER and enter into selective coalitions that support our agendas.” — (Stephen Steinlight, National Director of the American Jewish Committee, writing in the article: “The Jewish Stake in America’s Changing Demography: Reconsidering a Misguided Immigration Policy.”) https://cis.org/Report/Jewish-Stake-Americas-Changing-Demography

    Jewish politicians Behind The Hart-Celler Open Immigration Law of 1965 included: Senator Jacob Javits (NY); Congressman Emanuel Celler (NY); Leo Pfeffer (Former President of American Jewish Congress (AJC); Norman Podhoretz (Writer and Member of The Council on Foreign Relations,– former leftist, now a Jewish neo-con); Senator Charles Schumer; and Representative Elizabeth Holtzman.

  • The overall Soviet gulag death toll varies from 1.5 million to 20 million, the vast majority of the victims were Christian Russians and Christian Ukrainians who were exterminated in these Soviet gulags, mainly by being starved and worked to death.

    Pictured on page 79 of Nobel Prizewinner Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s, Gulag Archipelago II, are the leading administrators of the greatest killing machine in the history of the world, the gulags, They are: Aron Solts, Yakov Rappoport, Lazar Kogan, Matvei Berman, Genrikh Yagoda, and Naftaly Frenkel. All six are Jews.

    The following excerpt is from the below linked Israeli ynet news website article entitled: “Stalin’s Jews: We mustn’t forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish.”

    In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name “Genrikh Yagoda,” the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU’s deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin’s collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system. https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

    Ynet was launched in June 2000 in Hebrew only, and in 2004 launched its English edition, Ynetnews. According to Alexa Internet traffic rankings, Ynet is among the top 1,500 websites in the world and the top 10 sites in Israel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genrikh_Yagoda

    The Jew Genrikh Yagoda was the People’s Commissar for Internal Affairs (NKVD) from 10 July 1934 – 26 September 1936. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genrikh_Yagoda

  • “The Caucasian Race is very diverse.”

    it is also very irrelevant .

    the declaration of independence said all men are created equal . no limitation there . the constitution, while it accepted that some men were held as chattel. nonetheless allowed any free person to be or become a citizen . later the 14th amendment enshrined exact language to that effect and disallowed the slavery concept entirely .

    all men from the start could be american citizens .

  • you surely are not suggesting that only direct descendants of those citizens in 1789, when the constitutions was ratified, can be citizens now . if so most the of the descendants of europeans now here would have to return to europe .

  • “american dictionary of the english language” . noah webster . 1828 :

    POSTER’ITY, noun [Latin posteritas, from posterus, from post, after.]
    1.Descendants; children, children’s children, etc. indefinitely; the race
    that proceeds from a progenitor. The whole human race are the posterity of Adam.
    2. In a general sense, succeeding generations; opposed to ancestors

    there was more than one meaning for the word from early usage . i didn’t have to change anything .

  • your implication that there were not death camps in the nazi controlled area is nonsense .

    your deprogramming course site is very short on people taking credit for the page . who wrote it ? who put it together ? is there an organization behind it ?

    understandable . why reveal oneself and make a laughing stock of oneself . it is not responsible research nor historical fact .

  • the vast majority of russians were christians, many none too happy (neither were a majority of left wing russians as far as that goes) with stalin’s rule .

    if the majority of those killed in the death camps were not russian christians, that would be surprising .

    the 20 million number combines the gulag totals with those who died in the soviet suppression of the ukraine and the forced collectivization of agriculture . generally not gulag connected events .

    russian and ukrainian jews either fled the soviet union or perished in like percentages as the other russians .

    some christians sold out to the machine of stalin’s tyranny as the jews you mentioned . the 38.5 % you mentioned would tell us that 61.5 % of the soviet security apparatuses were other russians . and that is if the work of one academic giving a talk at a tel aviv university is accurate and was reported reliably . the russian archives were open to western scholars for a few years . now they are tightly sealed again . so checking on things is not easy now . so verification is not likely available .

    you point seems to be that the jews somehow were uniquely responsible . that is absurd . the major architect of the soviet terror was the ex orthodox seminarian from georgia known to history as stalin .

  • your point ? mono-ethnic societies will be destroyed naturally by the multi-national corporations who need the best from where ever to survive . there’s no deep dark secret here .

    the origins of this predated the multi-nations in the u.s. which invited people from all over to build this country up . my people came from irish in the 1800s to build roads, canals and later the railroads .

    always new people from all over to do the work that those here did not want to do .

    other countries, if they are to survive, will have to catch up with us .

  • you really go out of your way to make mountains out of mole hills . jews in this country are but a generation removed from the time with their parents and grandparents desperately needed a refuge from both the soviet union and from germany .

    all the names you mention remember that . of course they are interested is keeping america available for those of this time who are in desperate need for refuge .

    the real question is are you ? and if not, why not ? that is what america has always been about ?

  • do you want ethnically pure states or not ?

    if you do then you have to bow to the reality on the ground that kosovo is by language 95 % albanian and a little more muslim .

    serbia may have had a claim to the land centuries ago, but not, realistically, today . unless serbia gets real serious about being a welcoming multi-national state .

  • serbia was not a peaceable nation attacked unduely by the u.s. serbia was killing people to clear land for the territorial claims .

    the war against was not some vast conspiracy . it was done openly by the u.s. because serbia would not sit at a peace table and make peace . the order came from the baptist raised bill clinton .

    get over your jewish fixation . it really is making you look bad .

  • the conservative part of the already conservative republican party around george bush jr. did want to invade iraq which they did on trumped up claims, and iran which the new administration, especially it seems the people around john bolton, still really want to do .

    the recent government in israel under netanyahu is, i would agree, a danger to itself and to the world .

    but we elected trump, so they have a right to netanyahu .

  • “waste their seed” is a biblical reference to either coitus interruptus or being infertile .

    i doubt that the people going to the funeral were going for his stupid comment .

    if people did not go to funerals of religious leaders or politicians in this country who said stupid things, no one would go to any .

  • much as many right wingers in this country accuse the left of being anti-american as a silly way of trying to silence their opposition . people in politics often engage in stupid political tricks .

  • Sorry liar, but holocaust denial was demonstrated to the world as nothing but malicious fiction. David Irving ruined it for all you losers. Nobody has to pretend your link needs to be taken seriously.

    http://www.hdot.org

  • He is trying to put a white supremacist tramp stamp on our nation. Facts, rational discussion or logic do not enter into it.

  • i presume you think that is the meaning of the name .

    one might get some origin of the word that suggests “red” but there is no suggest of face is present .

    i am amused though that you seem to give a meaning that native americans could seize on to suggest they have a more direct lineage to adam than europeans . that is if race were a real thing .

  • Israel’s Chief Sephardic Rabbi, Ovadiah Yosef states, “waste their seed and exterminate them,” — by following up the words “waste their seed” with the words, “exterminate them,” it is clear that Israel’s Chief Sephardic Rabbi, Ovadiah Yosef, was exhorting his followers to mass murder Arab children. Earlier in the paragraph, he also tells his followers to “annihilate” the Arabs.

  • A United Nations court has ruled that Serbian troops did not carry out genocide against ethnic Albanians during Slobodan Milosevic’s campaign of aggression in Kosovo from 1998 to 1999. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1530781.stm

    P.S. Kosovo and Metohija was an autonomous province of Serbia within Yugoslavia. Metohija is the name of the region covering the southwestern part of Kosovo. Metohija derives from the Greek word μετόχια, meaning “monastic estates” – a reference to the large number of villages and estates in the region that were owned by the Serbian Orthodox monasteries and Mount Athos during the Middle Ages. It was Serbia’s Orthodox Christian heartland. Here is who NATO (led by Jewish American General Wesley Clark) handed Kosovo and Metohija over to.

    Kosovo PM Hashim Thaçi is head of human organ and arms ring, Council of Europe reports. Two-year inquiry accuses Albanian ‘mafia-like’ crime network of killing Serb prisoners for their kidneys. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/dec/14/kosovo-prime-minister-llike-mafia-boss
    Kosovo’s prime minister is the head of a “mafia-like” Albanian group responsible for smuggling weapons, drugs and human organs through eastern Europe, according to a Council of Europe inquiry report on organised crime. Organs are said to have been taken from impoverished victims at a clinic known as Medicus – is said by the report to be linked to Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) organ harvesting in 2000.
    Hashim Thaçi is identified as the boss of a network that began operating criminal rackets in the runup to the 1998-99 Kosovo war, and has held powerful sway over the country’s government since.

  • Israel is killing Palestinians and driving them from their villages via the use of military force in order to build illegal Jewish settlements. Do you support a US led NATO aerial bombing campaign against Israel?

  • no, roy, life is too short to spend time with “christian identity” material . to read a book that suggests that the jews are not the real jews . or that the edomite word of parallel root to adam should inform the meaning of the hebrew word making it mean something unlikely when the hebrew language can define it quite nicely . life is too short for that nonsense .

    and again the websites that you refer me too have a lot of dead people named but few living folks taking credit or blame for their holocaust denial . ‘oh, golly gee, we didn’t want any jews around, but still we didn’t mean them to get hurt’ . or some such crap .

    the whole existence of the nazi party was finding scapegoats for the germany people to blame the depression and the hard times on . that the jews were blamed early on and were targets of terrorist acts in the early to mid thirties and then the laws stripping them of their positions in schools and other professions, then taking their property and finally their freedom of movement until they were shipped from the cities to the camps . this is all documented . well documented .

    all this is something that you, now, are not going to be able to whistle by as an innocent child by a grave yard . the nazis planned it and did it all . and if you are an apologist for that, or a denier of fact . the blame and the shame falls on you 70 years after the fact .

  • life is too short for that nonsense

    But Eternity is not. But somehow I don’t think any of this applies to you. Carry on.

  • Barbara Lerner Spectre —

    “Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies that they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the center of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.”

    Barbara Lerner Spectre, founding director of Paideia, the European Institute for Jewish Studies in Sweden

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