A scene where Mark Taylor encounters a demon during a dream sequence in the film “The Trump Prophecy.” Image courtesy of Micah Johnson, director of photography

New film highlights belief that Trump's election was God’s plan

(RNS) — Mark Taylor is sure he knows why Donald Trump became president.

Forget Hillary hatred, white anger, Russian interference or voter turnout. Trump’s victory was God’s will, said Taylor. Taylor said he knows this because God told him so.

In 2011, while watching an interview with Trump on TV, Taylor says he heard a voice saying, “The Spirit of God says I’ve chosen this man, Donald Trump, for such a time as this.”

And the Almighty is just getting started, said Taylor, a former firefighter who has published 23 "prophetic words," many about Trump’s presidency.  

The presidential prediction is detailed in “The Trump Prophecy,” a new film produced with the help of faculty and students at Liberty University — some of whom later rejected its message — that will be shown in some 1,200 theaters on Oct. 2 and 4.

The film is part of a small but influential “Trump prophecy” movement that proclaims the current administration is divinely ordained and condemns its critics as servants of Satan.

A number of high-profile evangelical and charismatic leaders — among them evangelist Franklin Graham, Baptist preacher Robert Jeffress, pollster George Barna and presidential adviser and televangelist Paula White — have claimed that God intervened in 2016 to ensure the election of Trump.

The prophecy movement goes a step further to claim Trump is a modern-day King Cyrus, a pagan king who came to the aid of God’s people and rescued them from exile.

Lance Wallnau presents at the Values Voter Summit in Washington on Sept. 21, 2018. Screenshot via livestream

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Lance Wallnau, a self-proclaimed prophet who spoke at the recent Values Voters Summit, has labeled Trump “God’s Chaos Candidate.”

In October 2016 Wallnau claimed God told him that “Donald Trump is a wrecking ball to the spirit of political correctness” and predicted Trump would become president.

Wallnau, who appears in Taylor's film, said the election is part of a larger religious revival that is “healing the land.”

But he warns viewers not to sit back and relax.

“Believers have got to get their act together if they want to preserve their way of life,” said Wallnau in the film. He declined to be interviewed.

A number of charismatic leaders, including Wallnau, Cindy Jacobs, Alveda King, Steve Shultz, Rick Joyner, Frank Amedia, and Lou Engle, work with POTUS Shield, which organizes prayer for the Trump administration.

The group recently called for an around-the-clock vigil for Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. In announcing the vigil, Amedia repeated a prophecy from 2016 that claims Trump will appoint three new justices to the high court.

Mark Taylor during a 2017 interview. Video screenshot

Taylor, whose grandfather and great-grandfather were Baptist preachers, said he began receiving prophecies after retiring from the Orlando Fire Department because of health concerns. As the film details, Taylor struggled with depression, insomnia, symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder, and suicidal thoughts. During that time, he claims to have received visitations from demons, angels and even God himself.

Other prophecies followed, he has said.

In a scene that’s re-enacted in the film, Taylor shared his "prophetic words" with Mary Colbert, an author and activist, and she affirmed her belief in their divine origin.

“This is good,” she tells Taylor after studying them. “It has that rhythm to it when the Holy Spirit is bearing witness to the truth. At least it does to me. I think you have to let the whole world know about this.”

In the film, Colbert transforms Taylor’s words into a national movement by organizing a phone prayer network that attracted as many as 100,000 callers.

Asked about the specific role God played in the 2016 election, Taylor first gave the caveat that he is not a preacher or theologian. Then he gave his explanation for Trump’s victory.

“The army of God stood up and repented on behalf of the land, and God healed the land and performed a miracle on Nov. 8,” he told Religion News Service.

Taylor calls himself a “prophetic voice,” not a prophet. Scholars say he and others like him differ from biblical prophets they have studied. Those prophets, the scholars say, often critiqued leaders of the day.

“You usually find biblical prophets speaking truth to power,” said John Fea, professor of history at Messiah College in Pennsylvania, and author of "Believe Me: The Evangelical Road to Donald Trump."

“The prophet Nathan condemned King David’s sin with Bathsheba. Nathan would never say what Trump’s court prophets have said: ‘I am going to give you a mulligan for this sin because you are going to appoint pro-life Supreme Court justices.’”

Brad Christerson. Photo courtesy Biola University

Brad Christerson, professor of sociology at Biola University in Los Angeles, agrees. Christerson, co-author of "The Rise of Network Christianity: How Independent Leaders Are Changing the Religious Landscape," studies the growing movement of charismatic Christian leaders who describe themselves as apostles and prophets.

Some, like Taylor, focus on predictions, not social critique, he said.

“The prophets in the Bible focused primarily on critiquing those in power and revealing how they have fallen short of living up to God's standards, especially in their treatment of the most vulnerable people in society,” said Christerson. “These modern-day prophets seem to be doing something quite different — using their predictions of the future to rally support for a person in power of dubious moral character.”

Taylor’s Trump prophecy was just the beginning. His 22 other “prophetic words,” all available on his website, mirror his political ideology and key planks of Trumpism:

  • Trump will serve two terms and appoint a total of five Supreme Court justices.
  • The landmark 1973 Supreme Court decision on abortion in Roe v. Wade will be overturned.
  • The “most important midterm elections in American history” will lead to a “red tsunami” that will help Republicans strengthen their hold over both the House of Representatives and the Senate.

Taylor said Trump will launch “a wave of arrests against thousands of corrupt officials, many of whom are part of a massive satanic pedophile ring.”

Then, military tribunals that will “make Nuremberg look like a cakewalk” will prosecute and lock up thousands of treasonous Americans, including former President Obama and other members of his administration, former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and fired FBI Director James Comey.

Taylor claims this process has already started but the news media, which he called “the enemy of the United States,” is “not giving people the truth.”

Taylor, who said he has been “a Christian conservative most of my life,” has few ties to organized religion. He has not been part of a church for years, and he condemns churches for seeking tax-exempt status from the government.

“Ninety-five percent of our churches (are in) a covenant with the kingdom of darkness,” he has said.

Producer Rick Eldridge of ReelWorks Studios, which made the film, has a longtime interest in prophecy. His last Christian film was “Four Blood Moons,” which claimed astronomical events are “God’s billboard” for prophesied changes in the Middle East and the world.

Eldridge said his Trump film, which features talking heads commenting on how Trump is making America — and Israel — great again, has a different purpose.

He wants to get people in theaters to “see a film that will reignite patriotism and call people to pray for our country and leadership.”

ReelWorks tried to buy ads on Facebook, but the social media company rejected them, reportedly saying the ads were too political. Eldridge maintains that the film is about prayer, not politics, and has accused Facebook of “censoring” the ads.

Eldridge also said the film is being promoted to churches and faith groups through a “30 days of prayer” campaign, sample sermons and other materials. Tickets for the film can be ordered on Fathomevents.com.

The film has its critics, even among some of the Liberty University students who worked on it, who have launched an online petition titled “Cancel the Liberty University Film Program’s Heretical Film Project.”

“Mark Taylor claims to have received prophecies directly from God that do not align with the Bible's message,” reads the petition. “Mark Taylor has claimed God told him that electing Trump will save the world which is unbiblical at best and heretical at worst.”

Radio host Michael Brown. Photo courtesy of Michael Brown

Radio host, author and Bible scholar Michael Brown has said he believes God had a hand in Trump's becoming president. But that doesn’t mean that opposing Trump is going against God’s will, Brown said.

Brown, a charismatic leader who took part in the Brownsville revival of the 1990s, has a more nuanced view of the Trump presidency.

“Not all opposition to the president is satanic or conspiratorial,” said Brown, author of the upcoming book "Donald Trump Is Not My Savior: An Evangelical Leader Speaks His Mind About the Man He Supports as President."

“I do believe God raised Trump up to be president,” said Brown, “but I believe it is important to speak the truth to him with respect and honor, recognizing that while he does much good, he also does much harm. I call for his evangelical supporters to function as Trump’s ‘loyal opposition.’”

As for Taylor’s prophecies, Brown urges caution. He advises his fellow Christians to follow the advice found in the New Testament’s 1 John 4:1: “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.”

“Perhaps the Lord used Mark Taylor to prophesy the Trump presidency,” Brown said, “but that does not mean all current and future prophecies are also accurate. Each must be tested. Thankfully, we can test the prophecy about the ‘red tsunami’ in the midterms in the weeks ahead.”


  1. Trump, would not be different than any other leader, good or bad, and God has a hand in it all. If anything,Trump’s election was to buy some time because every thing takes place at their appointed times. There most likely won’t be enough time for Trump to have a second term. The abomination of desolation that forty four set in motion circled the globe pretty fast and Trump was probably elected to slow things down, but the wicked one will need to get back at it to keep the schedule.

    The United States is scheduled to be defunct by approximately 2032-2033 if the world doesn’t burn up first. According to Abe Lincoln and Jonah the Armageddon is already on. Have you noticed how everything seems to be speeding up?

  2. Is it possible that Mr.Taylor’s prophesies are actually wet dreams about a White Male God who enjoys grabbing women’s genitals? And is it possible that Graham, Jeffress, White, and the other Godly Leaders have similar wet dreams? Hopefully, someone will be able to give us a prophetic answer to these questions.

  3. Re: “The abomination of desolation that forty four set in motion circled the globe pretty fast …” 

    “Desolation”!? Really? What “desolation”? Where? What are you even talking about? 

    Re: “The United States is scheduled to be defunct by approximately 2032-2033 if the world doesn’t burn up first.” 

    Wow, cool! I’ll be standing by with a bag of marshmallows and a nice long stick to roast them on. Delish! 🙂 

  4. Re: “As for Taylor’s prophecies, Brown urges caution.” 

    As would be wise, given the appallingly poor track record of Christians’ “prophecy” through the history of their religion. They’ve made thousands of predictions over the centuries, just about all of which have failed to come true, and those that did, were only revealed “after the fact” (as in Taylor’s case, this movie documenting his “prediction” of the Groper-in-Chief’s election was produced only after that election). 

    I note that there were some Christian sects known for issuing frequent “prophecies,” such as Montanism, which were condemned as “heretical” partly because of this tendency. Christians love to engage in selective thinking where “prophecy” is concerned. 

    The failures, of course, include “Biblical prophecy” — all of which is pure bunk. According to the gospels, Jesus himself reportedly made predictions which not only haven’t come true, it’s no longer possible for them ever to come true. Given its total lack of any credibility in this regard, anyone who seriously thinks the Bible contains predictions of the future, is a fool of the highest order. 

  5. You have to look back at Trumps life, God was preparing him for this time in his life. Remember God controls all things nothing is by coincidence. We had two terms of Obama to shake the nation back towards God.

  6. You sound like an atheist to me?
    Do you Know anything of God’s Will.

  7. Thus the following correction: instead of “election” was God’s will, read “erection.” Now it all makes sense.

  8. Crazy guy who thinks Revelation is a book of prophesy of the end times and he has determined now is that time. Crazier that a hoot owl. He posts this random crap randomly in various threads. I think he’s off his meds or matron doesn’t know he got away from the orderly and is using her computer again.

  9. PsiCop is a female atheist (agnostic in her lingo) who believes her opinions are the same as facts and who has an opinion on everything.

  10. Let’s see …. we’re back to your obvious neuroses about males and genitals, the current President, the various people you hate, and of course white people.

    Nothing to see there, folks, move along.

  11. I’m rather looking forward to your being unable to post further.

  12. I’m not an atheist, I’m agnostic. And no, I know nothing of “God’s will.” I’m sure that won’t stop you from telling me all about it … but if you really want to educate me on the subject, you’ll first have to demonstrate that there is “a God” who has a “will” — and that will require compelling, objective, verifiable evidence. 

  13. “You have to look back at Trumps life…”
    Violation of fair housing laws – blocked people of color from rentals, the Central Park 5 – bought full page newspaper announcement to retry 5 black boys acquitted of rape of a white woman by forensic evidence: demanded double jeopardy, collapse of all his business adventures, dishonored multiple contracts for labor reducing several small businesses to the edge of bankruptcy, money laundering via shifting money illegally among his three casinos, abhorrent behavior as a married man…he’s a dishonest bankrupt misogynistic asshole.
    In conclusion, his past is prologue.

    And you think Obama’s terms shook the nation back to your version of a god?!

    Oh please, for the sake of your god, explain this ersatz logic!! Let me brew a fresh pot of coffee first.

  14. Biblical and general religious literalism is the lowest form of faith, which most of us outgrow by the time we’re adolescents, as Jesus himself did. You don’t do battle with scribes and Pharisees if you’re a literalist.

  15. MANY OF US PROPHETIC CHTISTIANS heard from God that he “arranged” for Trump to be President in order to use him to clean up the EXTREME criminal activity, and abundant immorality that was and still is in our government. More criminal and immoral activity will be brought out into the open soon, and many people will be prosecuted and others will be embarrassed and shamed. They all need to repent and ask Jesus Christ into their hearts before it’s too late for them. GOD STILL REIGNS.

  16. “You don’t do battle with scribes and Pharisees if you’re a literalist”

    Exactly! In fact, it is the scribes and Pharisees who supply the literalists and the dogma-addicted with much of their self-identity.


    Sadly, you are correct. The Grand Old Delusion still reigns over you and multitudes of other gullible people.

  18. Feminism is, in fact, the lowest form of faith, followed by a a belief in a “21st century Faith” built on skepticism.

  19. So, who supplies you with your dogma-addicted beliefs?


  20. BUT what exactly is God’s plan with Trump? Could it be to expose the hypocrisy of Evangelical Christians?

  21. People can’t tell whether that “voice in their head” comes from God, the Devil or their own EGO!

  22. “You have heard it said…but I say to you….” The entire Sermon on the Mount in Matthew (on the Plain in Luke) is intended as a reinterpretation of the Law of Moses. Throughout the gospels, Jesus frequently contrasts his teaching with the scriptures and traditions of Judaism. In the end, he was executed, charged by the Jews with blasphemy for having made himself out to be a Messiah, when scripture and tradition had taught the people to expect someone very different.

  23. Ok. Although I would point out that the Pharisees weren’t literalists either. It was the rabbinic movement, for example, that interpreted verses like “eye for an eye” in a way that led to monetary damages, not literally taking someone’s eye out.

  24. Yep. That’s why the early church fathers and monastic elders counseled those who had visions to flat out reject them. Tell the alleged angel, etc.: “Go away, I have done nothing worthy of having a vision. You must have been sent to someone else.” If the vision was from God, He will understand, and commend your humility. If the vision was from a demon or your own imagination, you will have avoided spiritual deception. Sage advice the people in the article failed to follow. And then made a foolish film.

  25. Thank you. I agree that the Pharisees weren’t literalists. They were certainly more liberal than the Sadduccees. As you may know, many exegetes believe that the gospel’s portrayal of Jesus’ conflict with the Pharisees derives from a later period and actually reflects an ecclesial situation.

  26. Apparently mental illness is even more prevalent in our population than previously realized. This is clearly ‘crazy talk’.

  27. Well, further expose.

    To be fair, not all Evangelicals can stomach Trump and the GOP.

  28. Funnily enough, God’s Will seems to be whatever the ‘believer’ claims it to be.

  29. An atheist knows as much about a non-existent god as anyone else.

  30. No different than those who read a book and choose to consider it “holy” with no verifiable evidence.

  31. Just out of curiosity, do you ‘Chtistians’ believe that Obama was elected twice as part of God’s Plan too?

  32. People, please complete your posts BEFORE smoking your Crystal Meth laced with Paint Thinner and Anthrax Spores.

    Your posts will make far more rational sense that way. Thank you for your cooperation.

  33. When one sees someone audibly “talking to god” on a bus or the street, I notice even Christians move away. Perhaps the evolved survival instinct intoduces skepticism to the faithful.

  34. God’s plan involves all election outcomes. Perhaps Trump’s election is to show us what a wolf in sheep’s clothing looks like and make us suffer so that we will know in the future what a good candidate for president should be and remind us of what a good president we had in the recent pass..

  35. By your reasoning, Sandy Hook, Parkland, and other massacres of children should shake the nation away from the NRA, eh?

  36. No you are the fool that does not understand the Bible…all prophecies are “conditional”! The reason un-informed people who do not know the Bible think a person is a false prophet when the prophecy does not come to fruition is because there is always a “condition”!

  37. All prophecies are “conditional”! The reason un-informed people who do not know the Bible think a person is a false prophet when the prophecy does not come to fruition is because there is always a “condition”!

  38. satan tore apart the eastern church into a multitude of linguistic, cultural and nationalistic entities, all self proclaimed as “orthodox” in order to maintain the propoganda of legitimacy in the face of wholesale heresy and rebellion. The Almighty reacted to this massive display of the sin of pride by the imposition of Muslim hordes taking over Constantinople and turning the Hagia Sophia into a Muslim mosque, simultaneously renaming the city as Istanbul.

    As that was coming to its logical conclusion, satan continued to use pride to divide the western church by the antics of Henry VIII so he could “marry” and summarily murder Anne Bolyne under the novel authority as head of the Church of England, leaving the Catholic Church in ruin and squandering it’s wealth.

    Martin Luther, a renegade Catholic monk who could not command his indomitable ego and instead found it easier (as ALL PROTESTants do) to spit on Mother Church and profess that it was imperative to commit murder and fornication 1000 times per day and to sin boldly because nothing could separate us from the love of God. So much for the narrow path that few can find. But what does Christ know that Luther and his fellow rebels against the Church, not one of which can agree with the next, don’t know?

    After all, the canon of the Bible was decided at the Council of Rome in 382, and, 1,100 years later one Dr. Martin Luther ejected 7 of those books which disagreed with his heresies of sola fide and sola scriptura, both of which sprang from the bowels of satan into the mind of Luther to ensnare multitudes of gullible egocentric idiots so that they can be Pope and Magisterium, decidedly establishing whatever minor codicil of Holy Writ as a new and novel twig of “orthodoxy,” remember *that* term?

    Oh, don’t worry, I am quite well aware of the failures of the Catholic Church, for, after all, Christ stated that scandal must needs be come upon us. For, since satan had done such a MARVELOUS job in dividing, diluting and dissipating the PROTESTANT sects into over 58,000 facets, why should anyone think the Catholic Church would be above attack?

    After all, what HASN’T the world thrown against Her for 2,000 years of indestructble existence?

    And didn’t Pope Leo XIII hear satan and Christ arguing about whether satan could destroy the Church on October 13, 1884? And Christ gave him full permission to go ahead and try it. So 33 years TO THE DAY later, we have the Miracle of the Sun in Fatima. 75 years later we have the convocation of Vatican II which changed the Mass and the Church in ways that make it hardly recognizable from what it was before.

    100 years later we have the morass of various computer and Internet developments giving eerie summary judgment to George Orwell’s book, “1984,” and its characterization of Big Brother in the modern form of the IRS, the CIA, the NSA and a host of other such shadow organizations adding up the voluminous data from surfing habits, online banking, dark Web criminal activities, and Facebook and Google cooperation with them as a tip of the iceberg representation of what’s going on all around us.

    All because pride is the prime Cardinal Sin the prince of this world finds easiest to employ in gaining the allegiance of those inclined to be Pope and Magisterium. I.E., all humanity, without exception.

    Pray the Rosary, the TRILLIONS of demons unleashed against us DESPISE it, so DO IT, and PISS THEM OFF!! BE A TRUE REBEL.

  39. I don’t want to be pope.

    Trillions of demons? Did you count them personally?

    Satan and Jesus having an argument? He said/he said?

  40. God has a wonderful plan for you.

    You have free will.

    Except for Judas. God did not have a wonderful plan for Judas. But did Judas have free will? Of course. But no plan.

  41. How do you know that it was not really Satan you heard from — saying he was really God? Isn’t that exactly what Satan would do?

  42. If I were Satan,and I am, that’s what I would do, if I were, which I am totally not.

  43. Does any Christian who claims to know the mind of the infinite creator of the entire infinite universe have the slightest idea of what that creator’s will is, or is it all contained in a book written 2000-3000 years ago?

  44. I don’t see why anyone would want to be Satan. How would I do my nails with those cloven hooves?

  45. Are these conditions known and memorialized in writing at the time the prophesy is made?

    If not, then there is no accountability. People who believe in one or another prophesy simply choose point to the outcomes that happen and ignore the ones that don’t. No different than someone who has a “system” to beat the roulette wheel.

  46. I can resolve that matter and the most biblical manner, since I am Satan, except when I am not. If you have cloven hooves, you don’t have nails. Therefore, you have no problem.

    Next, my solution to the Middle East.

  47. After all, the canon of the Bible was decided at the Council of Rome in 382,

    Did this canon include the Book of 3 Maccabees?

  48. I think you mean Social Security and Medicare are on track to be defunct by 2032 or so.

    At any rate, warming is certainly speeding up. Funny how many Catholics attack their pope for calling attention to it.

  49. I don’t know about Taylor… I am not concerned with him. I just know that Trump was the lesser of TWO evils. I did not like his treatment of women in his past, I did not like some of his arrogant ways. HOWEVER, he is and was a successful business man who brought himself back from huge down swings. I know that I KNEW, without a doubt, that I DID NOT want Hillary in there for her SECOND term as president… she was and still is POWER HUNGRY.. A wolf in sheep’s clothing and this country would have gone completely to hell if she had been elected!!! I would have voted for Donald Duck over her!!! She is a murderess with major blood on her hands!! She would sell this country out in a heartbeat!!! She was no better than her liberal leaders of the Civil War days. Well known fact, the leaders that developed into the Democratic party were the ones who started the KKK…. The leaders who elected President Abraham Lincoln were what became the Republican party. They were the ones who “freed” the slaves. They were also the ones who bred ones like General Andrew Jackson and Custer who wanted to literally kill off all of the Native Americans in this country!!! So, Evil for Evil…. BOTH parties have blood on their hands!! I DO NOT LIKE EITHER PARTY!!! But, as an Independent… I Much Rather would have Trump over the evil murderous(ess) Hillary Clinton!!! The liberalists today are only living up to their legacy from the rich Plantation owners of the Civil War days!!! (I know, my family are from the south) THAT’S why they want to wipe out the past… it’s their legacy… the KKK!!! Truth hurt?? They will do ANYTHING to get what they want… even kill the president, (Right Booth??)

  50. But I do have nails. So that proves I’m not Satan, contrary to what my mother-in-law says.

  51. Lord help us and save us from this type of mentality, with a heavy stress on “mental”.

  52. Apparently the last half-century has escaped your notice. It was then the GOP adopted its Southern Strategy, which courted the bigots who left the Democrats. And why did they leave? Because the Democrats would no longer aid in official racial discrimination.

    I will say this for Republicans. They’ve stayed true to their racist base.

  53. one of the less intelligent comments i have seen recently .

  54. That only proves you are not Satan TODAY. It says nothing about tomorrow or last week.

    Gotcha! I know how the prince of this world lies. You can never fool me.

  55. Sorry, you can’t be Satan. The biblical Satan defied God, got his butt kicked by Michael, the archangel, and fell from heaven. There’s no way someone can fall from heaven and land online.

    I rest my case.

  56. Well, it is in the canon of the Orthodox Church (of which Mr. Half[wit] provides a fanciful precis), but not in that of the pedophilic church of Rome.

  57. Well, if you are going to use logic, then I can’t corrupt, errr, umm, help you.

  58. Of course God had a wonderful plan for Judas. But, having free will, Judas rejected it.

  59. Or Judas did exactly what god wanted him to do. God wanted jesus to die a horrible death at the hands of of the Romans to redeem mankind. No Judas, no Christianity.

    But of course, you can always argue whatever you wish. And you just did. Where it falls apart is in experience, logic, your own rhetoric and beliefs, and such. God has a wonderful plan for every single child molested by a catholic priest, or a Protestant minister. God has a wonderful plan for every single person who is not a Christian. I think they call it hell. God has a wonderful plan for the Jews. They called it the Holocaust. God has a wonderful plan for those Christian babies dying of starvation, disease, or thirst in Africa.

    God is just full of wonderful plans. In fact, I’m pretty sure it was you who informed me that of can do whatever he wants to his puppets, err, umm, people, because he is god, after all.

    No, thanks. There is an old Jewish joke, where a devout Jew goes to heaven and asks God, “is it true we are God’s chosen people?” God replies, “yes, indeed, you are my chosen people.” The devout Jewish man replies, “well, would you mind choosing someone else for a change!?!?”

  60. As all your examples point out, the evils people do get in the way of the good God would rather have for them.

  61. Why, it’s just as bad as those lgbt-affirming “christians”, LOL!

  62. So what evil were the Jews doing that caused them to be murdered. And those Christian babies in Africa? what did THEY do, apart from getting born? God’s wonderful plan seems to be totally ineffective in the case of those victims, however many millions of them there are.

    If that is the best god’s wonderful plan and omnipotent will can do, then he probably shouldn’t bother to have any plans at all. In fact, that is what the good book says: not a sparrow falls, but god knows of it.

    But the sparrow still falls, doesn’t it? so of what good is god’s wonderful plan for thecsparrow?

  63. So you want God’s “wonderful plan and omnipotent will” to magically negate the sins and evils people have brought into the world, but would prefer that he left intact the free will that brings those things into being in the first place? Sorry, B O, you can’t have a thing (free will) without the consequences of that thing.

    But I would kinda think you would miss having free will, wouldn’t you? With out free will you couldn’t disregard God’s will and have sex with another man, now could you?

  64. Trump was a good businessman, who went bankrupt 4 times?

    Mrs. Clinton was a power hungry, evil murderer? And yet, somehow, she has never actually been charged with anything, despite how many hearings and accusations.

    It,s almost as if you read something on the internet, and think it’s true.

  65. Standard Bob – can’t answer the point so whack in an ad hom.

    Rinse and repeat


  66. Judas, like all men, had free will.

    That does not equate to “Judas did exactly what god wanted him to do.” It does equate to “Judas did exactly what god knew he would do.”

    All of these awful events, and they are awful, hit you differently than they do a Jew, a Christian, or Muslim.

    The reason they do is that your focus is on your life here, your crotch, and whether this or that feels good.

    The orthodox Jew, the Christian, or the Muslim recognizes that this life may suck, but it’s a blink of the eye in the face of an eternity.

    And that’s where the plan comes in.

  67. Another failure to understand the nature of discussion.

    The theory is that you demolish your opponent’s argument by rapier like logic.

    Not, as you so often do, demonstrate the value of their reasoning by resorting to playground invective.

  68. Hillary power hungry? Yes.

    Probably evil? Probably?

    Narcissistic b-tch? According to the Secret Service agents and the New York State troopers who had to deal with her, yes.

    Do do know that Milton Hershey went bankrupt,Walt Disney was left bankrupt from his first film company, Cyndi Lauper went bankrupt after her manager sued her in 1981?

    As part owner of hundreds of corporations, it would be more surprising if Trump did NOT ever file a bankruptcy.

    Next time aim before pulling the trigger.

  69. The great thing about prophesies are you get to revise them post-facto and people are likely to forget about them years down the road when proven wrong.

    All we see here is another evangelical wh0ring himself out to Trump for a handout. Its funny how these “prophesies” are merely appeals to the most reactionary fundamentalist Christian agenda.

    Taylor said Trump will launch “a wave of arrests against thousands of corrupt officials, many of whom are part of a massive satanic pedophile ring.”

    A combination of Pizzagate and Deep State nonsense. After all its not that Trump is incompetent, its a conspiracy of government functionaries making him look that way. /s

  70. It was not until Jesus died and rose that what he was saying made sense.

    Here is example:

    John 2:15-22 “So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, ‘Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!’ His disciples remembered that it is written: ‘Zeal for your house will consume me.’”

    “The Jews then responded to him, ‘What sign can you show us to prove your authority to do all this?’”

    “Jesus answered them, ‘Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.’”

    “They replied, ‘It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?’ But the temple he had spoken of was his body. After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.”

  71. What is your purpose in god’s plan, to post nonsense so the rest of us really appreciate the sound sensible posts that advance the discussion?

  72. The absence of cause and effect is total.

    Co-incidences sometimes happen.

    We have evolved to note the occasional “hit” whilst dismissing the myriad “misses”. How do you think all those who forecast the future make a living?

    Look up “Confirmation Bias”.

    Mind you – the oracle at Delphi has a good reputation hasn’t it?

  73. Pantsuits were better looking than that whispy ferret fur scrapings Trump keeps on his head.

  74. The great thing about your posts is you promptly forget what you wrote and then get to come back with new and “better” nonsense which also turns out to be baloney.

    You took so many contradictory positions over Heller v. DC that I finally archived your posts to raise specific ones from the dead from time-to-time just to illustrate you had cut a hole in the top of your hat and was talking through it.

  75. Wow you are really misinformed of the reality show host/pro-wrestling promoter you support!

    “HOWEVER, he is and was a successful business man who brought himself back from huge down swings”

    He was hardly a successful businessman. He has squandered much of his inherited wealth from one failure to the next. Hence the reluctance to release his taxes, lest his financial failures look even more obvious.

    ” it’s their legacy… the KKK!!”

    Funny thing coming from a supporter of a person who was endorsed by David Duke and called Neo-nazis “very fine people”

    2 things to note:
    1. Paragraph breaks are your friend. Use them frequently
    2. You should probably stop posting while under the influence of prescription drugs or trailer park meth

  76. I would say that your comment indicates the exact weight and substance of the myriad accusations leveled at Mrs. Clinton.

  77. Beyond incompetence and being a self-absorbed b-tch who believed herself to be entitled?

  78. Ah, “KKK” and “Neo-nazis”.

    We were beginning to think you had come to your senses.

  79. Your vision of “God” would be repulsive to such a being.

    You might want to consider, seriously consider, why you want to imagine the existence of a deity who utilises barbaric, wicked methods to achieve that which, being “God”, it could achieve with love.

    Your God is a psychopath – what does that make those who encourage your delusion?

  80. It probably has something to do with bringing his attention to both his job description and some other pressing matters to which he has devoted little or no attention.

  81. It was God’s plan to wake people up to Progressive corruption. It was their revulsion that produced Trump. 🙂

  82. I have no objection to free will whatsoever. I do have an objection to believing that there is an infinite, omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent deity who exists without a shred of evidence, apart from the insistence of his followers, all of whom disagree as to his precise will, nature, interests, and message to the world…

    and which cannot seem to accomplish much outside of a book that his followers insist is his will, nature, interests, and message to the world.

  83. The more important question is whether an infinite, omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent deity has an objection to you.

  84. If “BlockedByBobx2” refers to Bob Arnzen, after reading your posts in this discussion I can appreciate why he’d block you.

  85. If he does, he could tell me all about it HIMSELF in unmistakable terms, rather than relying on the likes of Jerry Falwell or Patty Robertson. Or The Mouth of Bob.

    So far, all he has told me is that the murder of 6 million Jews was a-ok, that he has no problem with the men he calls to his priesthood having sex with children or anything that moves, and that he loves me so much that he invented hell just in case I don’t love him back.

  86. Re: “No you are the fool that does not understand the Bible…all prophecies are “conditional”!” 

    So “prophecies” that supposedly are “prophecies” sometimes, magically, cease being “prophecies”? Is that it? What reason would I ever have to buy into anything that insane? 

    As for my failure to “understand the Bible” … that’s not true. I can read the New Testament in the original κοινη Greek, and the Old Testament in the form of the Septuagint, which is how the earliest Christians knew it. Can you? If not, then on what rational grounds could you even begin to contest my understanding of the Bible? To be clear, you disagreeing with me about it does not mean I understand it less than you. All it means is, you disagree with me … and that proves nothing. 

    Re: “The reason un-informed people who do not know the Bible think a person is a false prophet when the prophecy does not come to fruition is because there is always a ‘condition’!” 

    Uh huh. Yeah. OK. Whatever. I guess. I mean … I don’t really know what you’re talking about, so I suppose the only thing for me to do is just nod, say “Yeah, OK, whatever,” and walk away. 

  87. disqus provides the possibility of one on one conversation if people want it . if someone as Bob wishes to engage publicly with someone then it is their job to give context . else it is babble .

  88. How about we ask him.
    Still haven’t gotten a response. So I guess everything is OK.

  89. He appears not to have written “…. the murder of 6 million Jews was a-ok, that he has no problem with the men he calls to his priesthood having sex with children or anything that moves, and that he loves me so much that he invented hell just in case I don’t love him back.”

  90. Once again putting an end to this idiocy with the Great Kibosh:

    Putting the kibosh on all religion in less than ten seconds: Priceless !!!

    • As far as one knows or can tell, there was no Abraham i.e. the foundations of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are non-existent.

    • As far as one knows or can tell, there was no Moses i.e the pillars of Judaism, Christianity and Islam have no strength of purpose.

    • There was no Gabriel i.e. Islam fails as a religion. Christianity partially fails.

    • There was no Easter i.e. Christianity completely fails as a religion.

    • There was no Moroni i.e. Mormonism is nothing more than a business cult.

    • Sacred/revered cows, monkey gods, castes, reincarnations and therefore Hinduism fails as a religion.

    • Fat Buddhas here, skinny Buddhas there, reincarnated/reborn Buddhas everywhere makes for a no on Buddhism.

    • A constant cycle of reincarnation until enlightenment is reached and belief that various beings (angels?, tinkerbells? etc) exist that we, as mortals, cannot comprehend makes for a no on Sikhism.

    Added details available upon written request.

    A quick search will put the kibosh on any other groups calling themselves a religion.

    e.g. Taoism

    “The origins of Taoism are unclear. Traditionally, Lao-tzu who lived in the sixth century is regarded as its founder. Its early philosophic foundations and its later beliefs and rituals are two completely different ways of life. Today (1982) Taoism claims 31,286,000 followers.

    Legend says that Lao-tzu was immaculately conceived by a shooting star; carried in his mother’s womb for eighty-two years; and born a full grown wise old man. “

  91. If God is in this it’s probably because we are going to be judged. God will give us an ultra socialist leftist as President and to get there we needed someone like Trump to sicken the electorate so much that they’d vote for anyone rather then Trump again. This way, God will judge an immoral America.

  92. So how about this, go away and do something else.

    When he gets back to me, I will let you know.

  93. You do realize that Trump is forcing the taxpayer to subsidize his golf courses, right? That is the definition of corruption. He’s got his own hand in the taxpayer’s wallets.

    Jimmy Carter was forced to sell his peanut farm.

    I don’t think you know what corruption is anymore.

  94. You should be ashamed of the blatant misrepresentation of Mark Taylor and what he has experienced and believes and shares. Having listened to him quite a bit, I can tell you that you are flat out lying in this piece. Very appalling.

  95. That is not surprising people don’t respond to him.

    Lots of people block Bob because he posts garbage and used sockpuppet accounts.

    Given how recent your profile is, there is a good reason to suspect you might be one of those accounts as well.

  96. So your God detested a happily married man who brought himself up from poverty to achieve public acceptance and prominence but loves a person who squandered inherited wealth, pays for sex, a serial adulterer, swindler, habitual liar, bigot, who cheats and takes shortcuts at everything he does.

    Wow, your God is kind of an idiot.

  97. So your God detested a happily married man who brought himself up from poverty to achieve public acceptance and prominence but loves a person who squandered inherited wealth, pays for sex, a serial adulterer, swindler, habitual liar, bigot, who cheats and takes shortcuts at everything he does.

    Wow, your God is kind of an id1ot.

  98. Floydee, most of these posters are those who used to comment at NCReporter until they did away with comments almost a year ago. Now they have come here so be prepared for ultra liberals who will spew hatred against those who dare to contradict the narrative. My guess is it will only get worse over time and possibly end up doing the same thing with the comments here as with NCR. I left NCR because it got so verbally violent against anyone who was not an alt-lefter and now perhaps it’s time to move along again.

  99. He told you those things, B O? Are you going to make a movie about it like Taylor? “The Sore Rump Prophecy”?

  100. I would not have responded because I’ve had him blocked for several years, since he was “Ed Hu,” “Redemptionis Donum,” et al. I simply don’t see what he writes about my posts, so I don’t respond.

  101. Ooooh. You made a joke about anal sex.

    Well, I think it was a joke and I think it was about anal sex. I don’t know. It’s not as if antigay so called Christians are obsessed about anal sex or anything.

  102. Interesting. The comments section on “Hatewatch” at the Southern Poverty Law Center website was just closed down because too many posters were contradicting their leftist narrative.

  103. Still waiting.

    Better spin:

    He is obviously showing his wrath by letting me die of old age, with decent health, a satisfying job and surrounded by loved ones!
    Have you tried asking Cthulhu instead?

    If HP Lovecraft is to be believed, he has a much quicker turnaround on customer service requests.

  104. Not a denial of anything I said. I guess I was right. Go figure.

  105. Pantsuits can work really well on the right people. (Courtney Thorne Smith on Aly McBeal, Faith Ford on Murphy Brown or Elizabeth Sladen on early 70’s Doctor Who)

    Ferret fur scrapings don’t work well for anyone.

  106. If Trump’s election is something God wants God’s goal is not one that will result in peace in the lives of anyone reading this.

    It’s comparable to God “wanting” any other dictator to being placed in power.

  107. When he’s been blocked by just about everyone, he changes names and starts all over again. Because he defends the Truth.

  108. Well, you’ve never come to your senses, Bob. You’re still deluded.

  109. Yes. A while ago, he also used surname “Carioca”, and has had a variety of first names too. “Mark Connelly” seems to be his latest fling.

  110. Yes, pantsuits did work well for Elizabeth Sladen/Sarah Jane Smith, although my favorite is Billie Piper/ Bad Wolf Rose Tyler – no matter what she is wearing. : )

  111. Pssst BobMark, much is the Republicans’ fault.

  112. No. Elagabalus is correct. God is not very effective, of course, because he does not exist.

  113. I believe you blocked me because you got tired of getting your -ss kicked.

  114. I have NEVER been “Ed Hu” or “Redemptionis Donum”.

    On the other hand, I have never embarrassed myself with stupidity at First Things and then written a negative blog entry to cover it up.

  115. Except Trump’s not a dictator. If he was, we’d have had that wall built by now!

  116. We The People voted for Trump because we refuse to be the sacrificial lambs of communistic globalism. So it must be Hillary hate, white anger, and Russians? Hillary openly hates her own supporters and is known to be a corrupt politician. White anger? As in rejecting white guilt and political correctness engineered to control the majority of our nation and force them into submission if they dare ask for a say? Russians? Who mostly worked for Hillary/Soros? The communist Chinese are far worse but you won’t hear the leftist shouting ‘Chinese scum’. They hate Russia because they’re white, Christian, and have forced the globalist bankers out of their nation and defeated Communism. Russia must read books about queers in a romantic relationship to five year olds but not Saudi Arabia, China, Mexico, Kenya, or India…

  117. Indeed. On the subject of the Church Fathers, they certainly looked askance at movements such as Montanism, that focused on “prophecies.” It wasn’t just that they could be disruptive to Christianity as a whole; in many cases the Montanists’ outbursts were genuinely viewed as weird. 

    So, one wonders why, some 18 centuries later, there are still Christians who somehow manage to embrace this crap — which some of their more-reasonable ecclesiastical forebears knew better than to fall for. More’s the pity. 

  118. I think Mark Taylor is a proven prophet and he’s loyal to God and Biblically correct. He prophesied all of this in 2011, not after.

  119. NPR did the same thing during the run-up to the 2016 presidential election.

    My favorite was a piece they did on a “plain housewife” who headed up a “grassroots anti-gun” organization.

    In less than 10 minutes her name, her business (PR), her employment record with Michael Bloomberg, Bloomberg’s funding of the group and payment of her as a consultant were posted.

    The left is all for free speech, their free speech.

  120. Odd, YOU’RE the one who always manages to insert sex into a discussion.

  121. After eight years of Bill Clinton, Obama, and this Kavanaugh circus by the Dems, everyone knows what corruption is.

  122. I assume “a happily married man who brought himself up from poverty to achieve public acceptance and prominence” refers to Walt Disney.

  123. I believe you’re the 101st sock puppet he’s “discovered”.

  124. GOD has allowed many corrupt and evil kings and rulers to take power, in bible times and throughout history. Trump is not the first. “They profess to know God, but by their actions they deny him.” What are we to observe and learn from the current president and his entourage? What would Jesus think? Jesus, who has shown us through the gospels how to “speak truth to power.” I have had some precognitive moments (dreams, visions) throughout my life, including one about Trump: shortly after he took office I was watching him being interviewed on TV and I paused the program to look at him closely because I saw something in his expression that reminded me of a family member who had dementia. As he sat in the straight-backed chair in the White House, his hand went to his chest and he fell out of the chair to the floor. As he was falling, he was profoundly sad because he knew he was dying, and he was thinking “not now,” and of his youngest son. This all left me feeling very sad, and I am not a fan of Trump. I felt I was feeling someone else’s sadness. So I thought “time” and “two years” came to mind. Two years from that day in February 2017 would be February 2019, more or less. So we shall see. None of us knows how much time we have left. (James 4.13-14)

  125. Well, while you don’t wish to be pope, you *DO* wish to be victorious in all adversities, do you not?

    As for trillions of demons, here’s what a woman named Gloria Polo, a Columbian orthodontist who was struck by lightning and died, and whose soul was plummeting toward Hell for her abortions, only to be saved at the last instant by St. Michael the Archangel who responded to the commandment of the Most High due to the prayers of her saintly deceased mother and a pious farmer who had lost his family to communist guerillas, said:

    “Every time, there is an abortion, the blood shed by that baby is like a key that Satan turns and the Lord showed me something that looked like seals on the ground and every time there is an abortion, those seals open up and millions of spirits get released on to earth from the pit of hell, spirits such as: the spirit of homosexuality, the spirit of lust, the spirit of satanic worship, the spirit of atheism, spirits of suicide, of abortion, spirits of everything that we are seeing nowadays. Haven’t you noticed how human beings are becoming less and less Christian?”

    Additionally, a saint of the Catholic Church, who died in 1968 and just before that told a former friend of mine he could continue his homosexual depravity and end up in Hell, or put aside his sins and live pure and become a prince of the Church, i.e., a cardinal. Unfortunately, he chose to remain a depraved homosexual. To prove his power to see people’s hearts, the saint told him to return to NYC and find his child. Baffled, he did so, and found out when he was drunk at a party and had crashed into a bed, a woman jumped in with him and conceived. That kid is now a priest in Massachusetts.

    So anyway, this St. Padre Pio stated that if the demons infesting the world had corporeal bodies they would blot out the sun. And that was before Roe (eggs) v. Wade (waddle in the sewage where our children’s bodies are feeding the rats and vermin) started unleashing millions of demons by the blood of the unborn.

    As for Christ’s discussion with satan, it went like this:

    The guttural voice, the voice of Satan in his pride, boasted to Our Lord:”I can destroy your Church.”
    The gentle voice of Our Lord:”You can? Then go ahead and do so.”
    Satan:”To do so, I need more time and more power.”
    Our Lord:”How much time? How much power?”
    Satan:”75 to 100 years, and a greater power over those who will give themselves over to my service.”
    Our Lord:”You have the time, you will have the power. Do with them what you will.”

    Pope Leo XIII went into his office and composed his exorcism prayer to St. Michael, only to have it struck from the liturgy at Vatican II 75 years later. Any other questions?

  126. Well, I was a personal recipient of “tough love” by the Almighty, Who gifted me with (a) a high paying job with a Wall Street law firm having (i) no skills and (ii) no experience in the legal field; and (b) 2 episodes of personal experience with the demonic forces unleashed against us for our sins of the flesh and abortions. The first was an answer to a specific novena to the Blessed Mother called the 54 Day Irresistible Rosary Novena (3 9-day novenas in petition and 3 9-day novenas in thanksgiving as an act of faith), while the second group was a stern Paternal warning of what my sins would earn me if I continued with them.

    Oh, and I forgot a third gift, which was a house on Puget Sound we got for a song (no pun intended) only to lose it due to my own sins of the flesh. Some people are hard to train, eh? Nonetheless, I continue to serve the Lord in the Catholic Church and He continues to sustain my worthless life.

    And if God is a psychopath, as you state in your pride, who then has blessed us with life, beautiful days, prosperous work, transportation, insurance, exquisite food, abundant water, homes and glorious terrain? satan?

    You insult the Most High. What does that earn you in eternity?

    And if you think He is a psychopath, why did He state in Isaiah 10:

    10:1. Woe to them that make wicked laws: and when they write, write injustice:

    10:2. To oppress the poor in judgment, and do violence to the cause of the humble of my people: that widows might be their prey, and that they might rob the fatherless.

    10:3. What will you do in the day of visitation, and of the calamity which cometh from afar? to whom will ye flee for help? and where will ye leave your glory?

    10:4. That you be not bowed down under the bond, and fall with the slain? In all these things his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.

    10:5. Woe to the Assyrian, he is the rod and the staff of my anger, and my indignation is in their hands.

    10:6. I will send him to a deceitful nation, and I will give him a charge against the people of my wrath, to take away the spoils, and to lay hold on the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.

    10:7. But he shall not take it so, and his heart shall not think so: but his heart shall be set to destroy, and to cut off nations not a few.

    What wicked laws do you think have caused Islam to march unopposed into Europe, North America, Australia and New Zealand? Could it be the psychopathic laws of Roe v. Wade, murdering 60 million kids in the US alone? Anything psychopathic about mass murder of the totally innocent to you”

  127. The Catholic Encyclopedia states the following concerning the canon of the Old Testament:

    The most explicit definition of the Catholic Canon is that given by the Council of Trent, Session IV, 1546. For the Old Testament its catalogue reads as follows:

    The five books of Moses (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy), Josue, Judges, Ruth, the four books of Kings, two of Paralipomenon, the first and second of Esdras (which latter is called Nehemias), Tobias, Judith, Esther, Job, the Davidic Psalter (in number one hundred and fifty Psalms), Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, the Canticle of Canticles, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Isaias, Jeremias, with Baruch, Ezechiel, Daniel, the twelve minor Prophets (Osee, Joel, Amos, Abdias, Jonas, Micheas, Nahum, Habacuc, Sophonias, Aggeus, Zacharias, Malachias), two books of Machabees, the first and second.

    Anything else?

  128. These pontificating moralists of Liberty University do not know what prophecy is. They treat prophets like fortune tellers. They are so far off the mark in their biblical interpretation it makes me wonder if the University and Falwell Jr are not one of the evil powers of this world and idol worshippers. That is what they have made Trump – an idol.

  129. Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the uneducated masses in line. Today we call them fortune tellers.

    Prophecies are also invalidated by the natural gifts of Free Will and Future.

    Theologically speaking, these religious fortune tellers require that God (if one exists) knows the future i.e. if God does not know the future (is not omniscient) then no human knew or knows the future.

    As per the famous contemporary theologian, Edward Schillebeeckx, God (if one exists) is not omniscient. Please read, pause and contemplate the following by Schillebeeckx:

    Church: The Human Story of God,
    Crossroad, 1993, p.91 (softcover)

    “Christians (et al) must give up a perverse, unhealthy and inhuman doctrine of predestination without in so doing making God the great scapegoat of history.”

    “Nothing is determined in advance: in nature there is chance and determinism; in the world of human activity there is possibility of free choices.

    Therefore the historical future is not known even to God, otherwise we and our history would be merely a puppet show in which God holds the strings.

    For God, too, history is an adventure, an open history for and of men and women.”

  130. Another “troll” striking again and again and again. Tis’ good that the Lord has mercy.

  131. “We The People voted for Trump because we refuse to be the sacrificial lambs of communistic globalism….”

    Translation: The poster is a neo-nazi.

    “As in rejecting white guilt and political correctness engineered to control the majority of our nation and force them into submission”

    Translation: The poster is a neo-nazi who is also a snowflake annoyed at his bigotry being called out in public

    “They hate Russia because they’re white, Christian..”

    Translation: This post is coming from a Russian gulag. If I do not keep posting, I will not get my daily vodka and black bread ration

  132. Not for lack of trying or intentions.

    All it shows is his brand of incompetence doesn’t work well in a democratic society.

    But thank you for demonstrating how little regard you have for a free society.

  133. So you say in 2018. The great thing about prophesying is how you go back and change your predictions after the fact or make them up much later.

  134. I am glad you recognize your trollhood.

    The begin of wisdom is self-knowledge.

  135. Simply pointing out the idiocy of drake’s idea that Trump was a dictator. Nothing in my post implied any liking for dictators, despite your feeble attempt at implying it did.

    And, unlike you, I don’t believe in condemning people based on mere accusations without evidence and corroboration – as you have done with Kavanaugh. Sorry, that just ain’t the American way!

  136. Trump isn’t a dictator. I certainly didn’t say he was. But he sure acts like someone who wants to be one.

    He certainly shows the same disdain for the apparatus of democratic government and institutions one sees from a dictator.

    He just lacks the ability to act on it.

    On the bright side, his ideal dictator persona, the kind of dictator he would be if given the opportunity, is not so much a Hitler/Stalin type as it is Mobutu or Ferdinand Marcos. Kleptocrats with a thin skin and no ability to inspire followers outside if those with a hand out.

  137. Now wait a minute! Take a closer look!
    Hebrews 1:1-2
    Long ago, at many times and in many ways (dreams, visions), God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son (Jesus), whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.
    So, how is that again? How does God speak to us in these last days? God speaks to us by Jesus Christ! In the New Testament! Receive Jesus Christ into your life.

  138. Because the Devil and God are nothing more than figments of their Ego’s imagination!

  139. I was hoping that you would hold the mirror in front of your face, but alas, I failed. You must not have much wisdom.

  140. Now if you just had the wisdom to block yourself. Oh, if only I had that wisdom, too.

  141. How do you know he has a hat? Three corners has my hat. If it had not three corners, it would not be my hat.

  142. Oh, we know the book is holy because it says it is. That is how we know Trump is a great President. He tells us so regularly. And Christians (so-called) think he is great because he has fooled them into thinking he is in favor of their agenda. Trump is is favor of one agenda – his.

  143. “[Trump’s] election is part of a larger religious revival that is “healing the land.” ”

    It’s obvious to everyone with a brain that “the land,” (i.e., the country) is more divided than ever. So what do they mean when they say the religious revival is healing the land? They see the division as a good thing. Divide and conquer is their plan. Us against them is their ideology. The non-believers will be separated from the believers and then destroyed. That’s their plan. That’s how they can look at the division being caused by Trump and see it as a healing process. In their minds, the land will be healed once the non-believers are expelled/destroyed.

  144. Agreed. Perhaps one reason is that many Christians – and this is very true of Americans in general – are woefully ignorant of history. That old adage is true: “Those who are ignorant of history are compelled to repeat it”.

  145. God gave man free will to choose between good or evil. Unfortunately, we don’t make the right choices and God allows that.

  146. one of the great finds i had in a used bookstore was a book of prophesy that gave the date for the end of the world . it was a bit after . in the book was an erratum saying that the author was restudying when the date was to be. he was still sure it was imminent and would get back to his readers soon .

  147. Crazy stuff like this film just makes Christianity look dumber and dumber, as these sentiments (i.e. Trump was
    sent by God) are expressed.

    The folks who believe this have no idea of how ridiculous, even “wacko”, they appear to others.
    Or maybe they do.

    But it hurts Christianity, bigtime, by giving it an aura of a circus, or a political campaign,
    instead of an actual faith and system of values.

    Extreme political Conservatism will be the death of Christianity in America, if this
    marriage-made-in-hell continues.

    And just maybe, RW Christianity will be the death of political Conservatism as well.

  148. he was indeed trying to turn her words around, but damaged himself in doing so : feminism is not any sort of faith , and skepticism is often necessary .

    even the christ advised ” 25 Behold, I have told it to you beforehand. 26 So if they say to you, ‘He is in the desert,’ do not go out there; if they say, ‘He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.” he was advising that we use common sense and logic to understand the “signs” one sees and hears of in the world around us . and never to rely hearsay and rumor about what is good or bad .

    this goes for ancient thought and ways of doing things as well as new philosophies and lifestyles . all must be tested to see what is good . what is not .

    some–and Bob often seems to be in this group–simply accept the ancient thought and rules handed on to them as yet holding it ancient flavor . that they are still the “salt of the earth” when they uncritically embrace it all . that can be as wrong as those who simply throw out the ancient without testing it for value (or being so damaged by the old, as the scandals of the past decades have shown, that, repulsed by the dross, they will never find the hidden gold) .

    thus i often challenge Bob for his trashing of others, not because they are always right and he always wrong, but because he often rejects out of hand, and without dialogue, the other . )

  149. There was an old sketch from one of the “Secret Policeman’s Ball” shows of the early 80’s with Rowan Atkinson, where he was the leader of a cult waiting for the end of the world at exactly 3:00.

    When it passes and they are still there, he exclaims “was it supposed to be GMT (Greenwich Mean Time)?

  150. Oh – I know why he blocks me.

    He doesn’t like me asking him to justify his statements and pointing out that ad homina are not valid responses.

    No doubt he’ll unblock me again in the hope that I’ve forgotten how to cut him down to size.

  151. There’s no such thing as prophecy in any supernatural sense. But you have a fireman, Mark Taylor, who lives so much of his life beholden to an imaginary world of angels and demons and gods and prophecies, no doubt he’ll have delusions about divine intervention in the last election. Trump’s base is getting scarier and scarier, to the point that they talk about a new civil war. That such a buffoon would inspire such blind, fawning devotion in so many people is simply embarrassing.

    Yes, Trump will invite evangelical leaders to the White House, and they’ll surround him and lay hands on him and pray on him, and he close his eyes and bow his head obediently for the cameras, because it plays well to his base. But anyone who thinks that Trump is anything close to a God-fearing man is hopelessly naive.

  152. You bet I’m disappointed that wall’s not built yet!


  153. I’m with Brown….Trump is another FDR. He is trying to save the USA from a bolshie revolution. Nobody thinks Roosevelt was perfect and he has plenty of critics. But when you think of the Federal Writer’s Project, the Appalachian Trail, and the CCC…all of which we enjoy today…you must see that God can write straight with very chipped pencils. If the trafficking is successfully ended, we will forgive Trump a lot.

  154. Funniest thing I’ve read all day. So God’s plan is military tribunals?….hahahahaha.

  155. A sinner is a psychopath, who is enticed and overcome by the temptations of the demons to gain footholds in pride, lust, greed, envy, anger, gluttony and sloth. I am guilty of all these sins, which is why the Almighty sent my demon to inject into my left ear with reptilian murderous fury, thermonuclear hot and simultaneously liquid nitrogen cold anger, “I WILL KILL YOU ALLLLLLLL!!!” hissing as reptiles do. This sent me through the air in a ballistic arc from the bed, landing on the floor at the end of the bed on my knees, begging the Lord never to hear that voice again. Shaking like a leaf in a hurricane and sweating like a sponge in Niagara Falls, I realized later that this was necessary to break me from my malicious habits, one of which was a particularly highly talented lover who had captivated me and almost broke up my marriage. That sin of lust and infidelity, sins of the flesh which the Blessed Mother said at Fatima were the cause of most people falling into Hell, were fiendishly difficult to repel, finally succeeding through a devotion to St. Joseph, the foster father of Christ, called “the Terror of Demons.”

    Another time I was laying prostrate before the Blessed Sacrament of a Catholic Church late one night, asking the Lord, Truly Present there, the state of my soul. He had the demon press down on my left shoulder so hard I thought it would break.

    Now it is God Who has created all the natural world, and He allows satan to tempt us because Lucifer was so brilliant an angel before he was ejected from Heaven that we need to recognize we are in spiritual warfare. That may be repellent to you, but since you are accepting of the Cardinal Sins as your daily regimen and haven’t the knowledge of the Faith to fight the good fight daily, but instead reside in cyberspace criticizing others, then who is it you are serving? Hmmmmm???

  156. Please accept this post as being supportive.

    Your first phrase is incorrect.

    Psychopaths are people whose brain (specifically their amygdala) does not work normally. Psychopathy is a recognised term with a specific meaning. Psychopathic behaviour can be measured by experienced therapists and demonstrated with the aid of fMRI imaging.

    Psychopaths are narcissists, incapable of remorse and emotions other than anger, they are impulsive and unable to be concerned about the consequences of their actions – both for others and for themselves. They do not choose to be psychopaths – their condition is the result of an inherited genetic modification; there is,as yet, no “cure” though gene modification may provide a solution but not, probably, for at least a couple of generations.

    It is, I think, highly unlikely that you are a psychopath, but the rest of your first two paragraphs suggest that you may be delusional and I, unqualified as I am, recommend that you seek professional support to see if there are underlying problems that may be causing you to have developed the coping mechanism of demons etc. – just because they only exist in your imagination does not mean they are harmless, natural or inevitable; I accept that they seem real, probably terrifyingly so, to you.

    I also accept that you believe in a creator god etc.. I don’t. I don’t because there is neither valid evidence nor rational reason to support the “god” hypothesis. There are also too many rational incompatibilities to accept the Christian God, as usually imagined, as being possible.

    My ability to reason leads me to think that, for the vast majority of people, the world would be a better place if we pursued our lives based on reason and evidence rather than superstitious belief; superstitious belief which sets person against person, decries the scientific method, promotes wishful thinking and unreasonable fear over evidence-based logic and, in doing so, holds humanity back from making at least some of the advances that will benefit us, our families, friends, colleagues, fellow humans and future generations.

  157. It guess just like Hitler was also God’s Plan…….huh hypocrites???

  158. And the really sad thing is that these knuckle-draggers actually believe EVERY word…………….. Any wonder folks are leaving Organized Religion in droves……………….??

  159. Sure, pedophilic church is all you know about the indestructible Church of Rome which defined the canon of the Bible in 382 AD at the Council of Rome. What you fail to realize is that the so-called pedophilic priests, bishops, archbishops and cardinals are simply agents of satan, whom Christ unleashed upon the Catholic Church on October 13, 1884 when Pope Leo XIII heard the voices of satan and Christ arguing whether satan could destroy the Church. The conversation went as follows:

    The guttural voice, the voice of Satan in his pride, boasted to Our Lord:
    “I can destroy your Church.”
    The gentle voice of Our Lord:
    “You can? Then go ahead and do so.”
    “To do so, I need more time and more power.”
    Our Lord:
    “How much time? How much power?
    “75 to 100 years, and a greater power over those who will give themselves over to my
    Our Lord:
    “You have the time, you will have the power. Do with them what you will.”

    October 13th 33 years later we find the Miracle of the Sun in Fatima.

    October 13th 1962, we find the coup d’etat at Vatican II when Cardinal Lienart (get it? An artist in creating debt, i.e., lien art.), a 30th degree Freemason, seized the microphone and demanded that the slate of 168 candidates for the conciliar drafting commission be discarded and a new slate of candidates be drawn up.His uncanny gesture was heeded by the Council and the election was postponed. Lienart’s action deflected the course of the Council, made history and was heralded as a victory by the press. Small wonder.

    October 13, 1973, the Blessed Virgin comes to Akita Japan and says the following to Sr Sasagawa:

    “My dear daughter, listen well to what I have to say to you. You will
    inform your superior.”

    After a short silence:

    “As I told you, if men do not repent and better themselves, the Father
    will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment
    greater than the deluge, such as one will never seen before. Fire will fall from
    the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad,
    sparing neither priests nor faithful. The survivors will find themselves so
    desolate that they will envy the dead. The only arms which will remain for you
    will be the Rosary and the Sign left by My Son. Each day recite the prayers of
    the Rosary. With the Rosary, pray for the Pope, the bishops and priests.”

    “The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a
    way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, bishops against bishops. The
    priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their
    confreres…churches and altars sacked; the Church will be full of those who
    accept compromises and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls
    to leave the service of the Lord.

    “The demon will be especially implacable against souls consecrated to
    God. The thought of the loss of so many souls is the cause of my sadness. If
    sins increase in number and gravity, there will be no longer pardon for

    “With courage, speak to your superior. He will know how to encourage
    each one of you to pray and to accomplish works of reparation.”

    “It is Bishop Ito, who directs your community.”

    And She smiled and then said:

    “You have still something to ask? Today is the last time that I will
    speak to you in living voice. From now on you will obey the one sent to you and
    your superior.”

    “Pray very much the prayers of the Rosary. I alone am able still to save
    you from the calamities which approach. Those who place their confidence in me
    will be saved.”

    And, guess what? TOMORROW IS OCTOBER 13! I wonder what surprise the Lord has in store for us? Padre Pio a Capuchin monk who could read hearts and tell you your sins, said that there will be 3 days darkness as happened once before in the 9th Plague God visited upon Egypt, and again in Jonah’s being 3 days in the belly of the whale (beast). During our 3 days, all Hell will be unleashed. Then you’ll see what I was talking about.

  160. The ancient Fathers of the Church counseled the faithful to reject special visions, dreams, etc, as most likely coming from the devil. They instructed us reject the vision and to say to the purported angel/Christ/Virgin: “Sorry, you must have meant to go to somebody else; I have done nothing to deserve such a visit.” if it was from God, He will understand and bless you for your humility; if it was from the devil, you will have escaped great error and delusion.

    If people like Leo, Sassagawa, Joseph Smith, and others had heeded that advice, they would have avoided falling into the spiritual delusions you spoke of.

  161. You must equally understand that my reply can be in no way supportive, for the following reasons.

    1. The Event I described was the result of praying earnestly the Holy Rosary. There are 15 promises associated with those who prove themselves disciplined enough to undertake it, and the first of these 15 promises is “Signal graces.”

    2. As a self proclaimed logician, it stands that opinions rarely end up being rationally reasoned out. You may assert the supremacy of your ability to reason, but so do the egos of billions of people thoughout history. In fact, your desire to base our lives on reason and evidence while ignoring the history of the Catholic Church is absurd. In case you hadn’t noticed, NOTHING CAN KILL IT. While nations come and go, philosophies wax and wane and psychologists and physicians live briefly and die, it is ludicrous in the extreme to assert that logic and reason lead to agreement, since the obvious evidence of the supernatural durability of the Catholic Church cannot be explained by any other reasoning than that Christ established it and promised it was never die. See if you can follow this logic:

    16:13. And Jesus came into the quarters of Cesarea Philippi: and he asked his disciples, saying: Whom do men say that the Son of man is?

    16:14. But they said: Some John the Baptist, and other some Elias, and others Jeremias, or one of the prophets.

    16:15. Jesus saith to them: But whom do you say that I am?

    16:16. Simon Peter answered and said: Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God.

    16:17. And Jesus answering said to him: Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona: because flesh and blood hath not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in heaven.

    16:18. And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

    Thou art Peter, etc… As St. Peter, by divine revelation, here made a solemn profession of his faith of the divinity of Christ; so in recompense of this faith and profession, our Lord here declares to him the dignity to which he is pleased to raise him: viz., that he to whom he had already given the name of Peter, signifying a rock, St. John 1. 42, should be a rock indeed, of invincible strength, for the support of the building of the church; in which building he should be, next to Christ himself, the chief foundation stone, in quality of chief pastor, ruler, and governor; and should have accordingly all fulness of ecclesiastical power, signified by the keys of the kingdom of heaven. Upon this rock, etc… The words of Christ to Peter, spoken in the vulgar language of the Jews which our Lord made use of, were the same as if he had said in English, Thou art a Rock, and upon this rock I will build my church. So that, by the plain course of the words, Peter is here declared to be the rock, upon which the church was to be built: Christ himself being both the principal foundation and founder of the same. Where also note, that Christ, by building his house, that is, his church, upon a rock, has thereby secured it against all storms and floods, like the wise builder, St. Matt. 7. 24, 25. The gates of hell, etc… That is, the powers of darkness, and whatever Satan can do, either by himself, or his agents. For as the church is here likened to a house, or fortress, built on a rock; so the adverse powers are likened to a contrary house or fortress, the gates of which, that is, the whole strength, and all the efforts it can make, will never be able to prevail over the city or church of Christ. By this promise we are fully assured, that neither idolatry, heresy, nor any pernicious error whatsoever shall at any time prevail over the church of Christ.

    We can see that the nationalistic, cultural and linguistic supremacy of the eastern church led to its total dissipation after leaving the authority of the Catholic Church by losing the Hagia Sophia to the Muslims at the same time the Muslims renamed Constantinople Istanbul.

    We can see at virtually the same time great minds and logicians taking the Catholic Church to task for imagined violations of human rights and such nonsense, only to find them, aptly named PROTESTants, dissolve into over 59,000 sects not one of which can agree with the next.

    I have witnessed my share of psychologists arguing their favorite theories of human behavior only to find themselves coming to blows because the other, equally logical, theory cannot be overcome in any other way.

    In case you hadn’t noticed, an instantaneous eruption of Nirvana doesn’t follow logic, because nobody can convince anyone else of their favorite theories of supreme logic, no matter the evidence.

    If in your liberal viewpoint, based upon the sin of pride, you are utterly convicted of the world being a better place should we all be logical and reasonable, you are no student of history. It is even moreso superstitious belief to assert a method that champions individual belief based on evidence will lead to world peace.

    The Church has asserted since its inception that life is warfare. I have met the enemy, and, trust me, you can’t imagine the terror associated with falling into Hell for the sin of pride.

    Pray the Rosary.

    How to think by Archbishop Fulton Sheen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmMBLTz6Pp8

  162. 1 – No – you have no grounds for assuming cause and effect other than the passage of time. The same might, for all we know, have occurred after you had read the Koran, or climbed Mount Washington.

    Just because you choose to assume that a caused b does not mean it did.

    2 – As to whether the RCC can be killed – I doubt it ever will be entirely – but then neither will Islam or Hinduism – does that make them as true as the myths of Christianity?

    I do note though that, in the educated world, religious observance is generally falling – probably partly due to people learning that it’s OK to think rather than merely believe and partly due to the abominable behaviour that seems endemic within religious leaderships. In short, along with other such bodies, the internally warring, dogmatically inconsistent, multi-factioned RCC appears intent upon committing suicide before any external coup-de-grace.

    3 – What logic? – you start with an effectively uncorroborated collection of writings and see logic within a few selected elements of that dubious tome. An illusory vision based on the total absence of logic required to fall for the silly ideas of gods-demons-devils-angels-saints etc. etc..

    4 – You have met “the enemy”. I suspect you really believe you have. That is, perhaps, your tragedy and the reason I suggest professional help.

  163. Nazi, Nazi, Nazi… Notice my name. Nothing says Nazi like a Hebrew first and last name… This poster must be a communist from China.

  164. A name on an online message board doesn’t mean a thing. You are not refuting what I am saying. Just trying lame misdirection.

    Your response speaks more of being a neo-nazi than the previous one. The only people throwing around “globalist” (the new version of “Zionist”) and “communist” willy-nilly these days are far right fascist types.

  165. In Mat 24,; our Messiah says, I have told you everything. It’s critical for any prophecy to have at least 1 witness from The true Word. Seek there prophecy diligently in all books. If it isn’t wittnessed by the Word, Than Test the spirit with much patience to confirm or keep it for Messiah to point it out and confirm it in his time.
    To confirm anything prophecy Isto pair with Scripture. There’s nothing new under the sun, What’s in the future, Is also in the past, Written in the True Word of Messiah, Or the lies from the-want to be or instead of or the anti Messiah.
    “Can I get a witness”
    God bless the Remnant

  166. Just the end of the old empire. See Trump Tesla and the Time capsule, Dark Journalism. it was supposed to be 2012 but he didn’t run. It was predicted in a letter from the Pres in 1987 and hangs on oval office wall. John Forrestal tried to disclose secret space program, see death of; JFK planned to disclose secret space program; Nixon planned to disclose secret space program [you watched media pushing to have THIS president removed TOO for same reason] AND IT’S ALL ABOUT DECLASSIFICATION.

  167. Most amazing thing is books 100 and 200 years ago predicting this admin by NAME exactly the way it is happening. Can find it on clan MacLeod story from the channel doing all the Tesla papers research

  168. The sad, sad course of thinking on your part causes you to impose intellect against experience and be the winning debater. Earn your way into eternal damnation then. I care not.

  169. Mark’s prophecy completely fails. Actually it fails terribly. Democrats take control of the House. What a terrible witness for the lost. God is not patriotic or nationalistic. Christ was just the opposite. It will be Gods love for the “least of these” that will prevail. It always has in the end. Matthew 25:35-45

  170. I wonder if these people also believe that Hitler was ordained by God…

  171. This is so terrible. The midterms were not a red wave. In fact, just the opposite happened. Taylor is even claiming that his prophecy actually happened by calling it an “earthquake” that will lead to a Tsunami. This is not a representation of Christians. This is what the bible warns us about time and time again. Beware of false prophets. If a prophet is right 3 out of 4 times they are still a false prophet.

  172. if after this Trump get shot, and then live again … I will believe that Trump was chosen …

  173. so Brad Christerson- what do you have to say about King David? Perhaps you should reconsider your judgment of President Trump’s relation with our Father?

  174. Proverb:9:10: The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom:

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