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Bishops angered by scandal involving ex-Cardinal McCarrick

Miami Auxiliary Bishop Peter Baldacchino sits with fellow members of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops during a session at the USCCB's annual fall meeting in Baltimore, on Nov. 13, 2017. (AP Photo/Patrick Semansky)

BALTIMORE (AP) — At a national assembly focused on the sex-abuse crisis, numerous U.S. Roman Catholic bishops called Wednesday for a formal repudiation of Theodore McCarrick, the ex-cardinal facing allegations of sexual misconduct over a long stretch of his career.

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, nearing the close of its three-day meeting, has been striving to show a commitment to combating clergy sex-abuse even though the Vatican ordered it to delay votes on two key anti-abuse proposals.

While the abuse scandal has affected many dioceses nationwide, the bishops appeared to be most angered and embarrassed by McCarrick, who allegedly abused and harassed youths and seminarians over many years as he rose to be archbishop of Washington and a member of the College of Cardinals until his removal by Pope Francis in July.

Several investigations, including one at the Vatican, are underway to determine who might have known about and covered up McCarrick’s alleged misconduct. The U.S. bishops expressed eagerness to learn details of the Vatican probe but defeated a motion pressing for access to information uncovered in that process.

Cardinal Theodore McCarrick prays during the USCCB’s annual fall assembly in Baltimore on Nov. 14, 2011. (AP Photo/Patrick Semansky)

“We have taken no official action to distance ourselves form the shameful behavior of one of our own,” said Bishop Liam Cary, of Baker, Oregon. “What do people make of our silence?”

Bishop Michael Olson, of Fort Worth, Texas, noted with regret that McCarrick has not been defrocked and would have been eligible to participate in this week’s assembly.

“He is not welcome,” Olson said. “We should say that for his sake, and out of respect for those he has harmed.”

Later in the day, the bishops discussed the two anti-abuse proposals that initially had been scheduled for votes. One would establish a new code of conduct of individual bishops; the other would create a nine-member special commission, including six lay experts and three members of the clergy, to review complaints against the bishops.

Leaders of the conference said the Vatican intervened to ensure that steps taken by the U.S. bishops would be in harmony with steps decided at a Vatican-convened global meeting on sex abuse in February. They also said more time was needed to vet aspects of the U.S. proposals that might conflict with church law.

Cardinal Blase Cupich, the archbishop of Chicago, was among many bishops urging the assembly to find some informal way of endorsing the proposals despite the Vatican order of a delay.

“Frustration is a luxury I feel I can’t afford,” he said in an interview. “I wanted to offer a pathway forward for us to take up the discussion as a body, make some decisions … but also say something to our people.”

In other action, the bishops approved a pastoral letter condemning racism, the first time they have spoken as a group on that issue since 1979.

The final text was not immediately released because amendments were being added, but Catholic News Service reported on a draft version of the letter.

“Every racist act — every such comment, every joke, every disparaging look as a reaction to the color of skin, ethnicity or place of origin — is a failure to acknowledge another person as a brother or sister, created in the image of God,” the draft said.

Members of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops gather for the USCCB’s annual fall meeting, on Nov. 12, 2018, in Baltimore. (AP Photo/Patrick Semansky)

It also denounced racial profiling of Hispanics and African-Americans and decried “the growing fear and harassment” of people from Muslim countries.

The bishops also voted to endorse a campaign seeking sainthood for Sister Thea Bowman, a Mississippi-born descendant of slaves who became the first black member of the Franciscan Sisters of Perpetual Adoration and — in 1989 — the first black woman to address a national meeting of the bishops conference.

Among the bishops elected to USCCB posts was Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone of San Francisco, who will head the Committee on Laity, Marriage, Family Life and Youth. Cordileone, an outspoken opponent of same-sex marriage, suggested Tuesday that the bishops commission a new study on whether there’s a link between clergy sex abuse and the presence of gays in the priesthood. A church-commissioned study in 2004 determined there was not a link.

Not far from the assembly venue, a Minnesota attorney who handles sex abuse cases nationwide and three men who say they were abused by clergy during their boyhoods gathered to announce a lawsuit against the bishops conference, accusing it of hiding the crimes of predator priests.

Jeff Anderson, who filed the lawsuit this week in federal court in Minnesota, said the bishops were named because their dioceses kept secret files about clergy whose misconduct might expose the church to more abuse accusations.

“We are taking the opportunity to do everything we can together to protect kids, to disgorge the secrets,” Anderson said.

The federal lawsuit demanding a trial by jury has six plaintiffs; three joined Anderson in Baltimore.
Among then was Joseph McClean, of Minneapolis. The priest he says abused him decades ago was publicly named as a “credibly accused” offender in 2015 by the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis.

“I am here to protect kids today. I’m here to protect kids tomorrow. And I’m here to protect children who have grown into adults and who haven’t had an opportunity to heal from the abuse that they suffered,” McLean said.
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Crary reported from New York.

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  • Outrage is the most overused tool in the kit of those in public life these days. Politicians use it constantly to gain advantage over the other party. Pundits use it incessantly in their daily bloviations. And no shortage of posters use it on this site.

    Now the bishops are using it to deflect attention away from their own failures. We don’t need them to be publicly outraged at Theodore McCarrick. We need them to explain how they fostered and took advantage of the culture that allowed him to rise to such a high level in the first place, and how they’re going to change that culture.

    McCarrick is old news. Our concern now is which of the black Florsheims in that room is going to be next to drop. So spare us the outrage and get your house in order. Now.

  • Have to admire people who accomplish absolutely nothing, but do it with some flair and drama. This helps us look forward to the really big “nothing, with flair and drama” planned for February in Rome.

  • I do not believe anyone wears Florsheims these days, at least no one who quality footwear.

    Alden, yes, Allen-Edmonds, yes also, Rancourt definitely, Church absolutely, but Florsheim?

  • Do list all your accomplishments over the last year for us when you have a few moments to spare from carping at various religions and leaders of religions.

  • “get your house in order”
    Almost 20 years of “over promise, under deliver”. And now Francis and the Vatican think further reflection is needed. They are in a deep hole, and they can’t even decide it is time to stop digging.

  • I’m not interested in what’s on a cleric’s foot. I’m interested in who he’s playing footsie with.

  • My, but you do fixate on the insignificant. The dropping is the operative part of that sentence, not what’s dropped. It was the first shoe brand that popped into my head, nothing more.

  • Do please note that you, not I, wrote “Our concern now is which of the black Florsheims in that room is going to be next to drop.”

    I at least approached it with a sense of humor.

  • And approached it and approached it and approached it yet again. Your sense of humor is duly noted, as is your beating it into the ground. Moving on. Have a pleasant evening.

  • Rockchalk,
    It seems to me that the only way to get their house in order would be for the lot of them to resign. Even if some of them have not been personally involved in the cover-up of the wide-ranging abuse, most, if not all of them knew about. Yet, they chose to do nothing. And that is what they will not admit. I don’t know whom they think they are fooling with these repeated protestations of shock and outrage.

  • I see by the photo that the Roman Catholic Church is very similar to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, they are both run by a lot of old men!

  • So Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone of San Francisco “suggested Tuesday that the bishops commission a new study on whether there’s a link between clergy sex abuse and the presence of gays in the priesthood.” Archbishop Sal will simply not give up his efforts to consign LGBTQ folks to the ranks of the preverts. Make sure any new study ends up with conclusions satisfactory to him. How dishonest of this archbishop. Another of JPII’s “legacy” hierarchs, and the last “gift” of B16 to Catholics in The City.

    Cordileone has as much credibility on same-sex matters as Trumpsky has on anything.

    Which is to say, Nothing. Nothing at all.

    Shame on Cordileone.

  • Hierarchies abusing their power is nothing new- politics as usual. Men of God are supposed to have a higher standard, and people (congregations) tend to dislike coverups, which is probably their greatest sin of all. If the McCarrick allegations had not surfaced over the summer, one wonders if business as usual would’ve ruled the day at the Bishops conference this week. After “removing the beam from my own eye” and recognizing after all that we are all sinners, I have to make the point that dirty little secrets and protecting the corporate structure at the expense of victims of sexual abuse and underhanded coercion are surely the tools of the tricksters workshop. And Cardinal Tobin’s disavowal of any plausibility of McCarrick’s misdeeds appears disingenuous in the extreme, since the latter was one of the formers biggest supporters. They all need our prayers..

  • I HAVE ONE :

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/crime-law/2018/11/15/us-catholic-church-hit-with-two-national-lawsuits-by-sex-abuse-victims/?utm_term=.b9c8def76e5c

    The courts and judges should do what Mueller is doing:
    Subpoena the cardinals and bishops and threaten them with personal financial ruin, and long prison terms for perjury and criminal conspiracy.
    What we know now about priest child sexual abuse and the theft of hundreds of billions of $$$$$$ over the centuries will pale by comparison with what the hierarchy, under threat, can tell us !

  • “Need to” in your comment means “must” so you are lying to your readers stating we “must have ” bishops explain things. The TRUTH here is that [you] “want” them to explain, but you don’t need them to. Please be more truthful.

  • Why do you even specify that it’s a “detailed” plan you seek? Just mindlessly being an ask ноIe, or consciously?

  • It’s been tried.

    Of course the rot about “the theft of hundreds of billions of $$$$$$ over the centuries” is simply anti-Catholic blather.

  • You do realize that the individual critiquing and beating a humorous comment into the ground posts as “rockchalkwombat”, right?

    I approached it once.

    My comments since have been solely directed to your churlish pique.

  • You are mistaken. The Catholic Church is run by One whose “day shall be from everlasting.” And they’d look pretty silly without the rest of us. The Church is the body of Christ. The head is Christ. The members throughout history have not measured up to the Head. The purpose of Catholicism involves repentance. Our society had better look upon this teachable moment, and realize that the abuse of children is not confined to a few Catholic old men.

  • Thoughts and prayers. What a great idea. Those will surely stop the rapes and rape coverups with exactly the same effectiveness as they stop bullets.

    The church operates on power and greed. When the flow of money dries up, the church might take note.

    Until then, those thoughts and prayers will do what they’ve always done. Nothing.

  • Just imagine how many of those [homosexual] bishops sitting there are guilty of the same [homosexual] behavior. Just imagine how many of these [homosexual] men protected [homosexual] clergy sex offenders and covered up crimes.
    That’s better….

  • You are absolutely right. We need to argue about labels. As you very rightly point out, it is the labels that are important, not the victims.

  • Trust and respect for Catholic clergy and the church is forever gone because of so much abuse for so long. It’s free fall into the bottomless pit is endless. No one and no amount of rhetoric can save it. Angels from the true church of Jesus Christ will be knocking at your door soon, you will feel their love. SHALOM!

  • “It seems to me that the only way to get their house in order would be for the lot of them to resign.” appears to be a variation on “Kill them all and let God sort them out.”

    It only makes sense if out of 5,500 bishops, not a single one did his job.

  • Retired Bishop Bruskewitz made this same recommendation during the 2002 bishops’ conclave and was turned down.

    He was turned down by a coalition led by …. McCarrick.

    If there is no problem, there should be no pushback taking a good look at the issue.

  • The drop in abuse reports after the 2002 conclave indicates that they accomplished more than “nothing”.

    Anyone who writes the “church operates on power and greed” has identified herself or himself as an anti-Catholic and doesn’t get a voice in the internal discussions.

  • St Catherine of Siena spoke of unholy bishops in 1370. Her words are applicable today:

    But they [unholy priests and bishops] act not so today, but, in cases of evil doing, they even pretend not to see. And do you know why? The root of self-love is alive in them, wherefore they bear perverted and servile fear. Because they fear to lose their position or their temporal goods, or their prelacy, they do not correct, but act like blind ones, in that they see not the real way by which their position is to be kept. If they would only see that it is by holy justice they would be able to maintain it; but they do not, because they are deprived of light. But, thinking to preserve their position with injustice, they do not reprove the faults of those under them; and they are deluded by their own sensitive self-love, or by their desire for lordship and prelacy, and they correct not the faults they should correct in others, because the same or greater ones are their own. They feel themselves comprehended in the guilt, and they therefore lose all ardor and security, and, fettered by servile fear, they make believe not to see. And, moreover, if they do see they do not correct, but allow themselves to be bound over with flattering words and with many presents, and they themselves find the excuse for the guilty ones not to be punished. In such as these are fulfilled the words spoken by My Truth, saying: ‘These are blind and leaders of the blind, and if the blind lead the blind, they both fall into the ditch.’

    Furthermore the rite of degradation should be imposed:

    THE RITE OF DEGRADATION

    If the degradandus be an archbishop, the degrading prelate removes his pallium, saying:

    We deprive thee of the rights and privileges of the episcopal dignity, symbolized in this pallium, since thou hast abused them.

    Then, even if the degradandus be a mere bishop, the degrading prelate removes his mitre, saying:

    We strip thy head of this miter, emblem of the episcopal dignity, since thou hast befouled it by thy ill government.

    Then one of the ministers brings the Book of the Gospel to the degradandus, which the degrading prelate takes from his hands, saying;

    Give us back the Gospel! Since thou hast spurned the grace of God and made thyself unworthy of the office of preaching, we rightly deprive you of this office.

    Then the degrading prelate removes the ring from the finger of the degradandus, saying:

    Rightly do we pull off thy ring, the sign of fidelity, since thou hast made bold to rape God’s own bride, the Church.

    At this time one of the ministers brings the degradandus a crosier, which the degrading prelate takes from his hands, saying;

    Thy shepherd’s staff we take from thee, that thou shalt be powerless henceforward to exercise that office of correction, which thou hast brought to disarray.

    Then the ministers take off the gloves of the degradandus, and the degrading prelate lightly scrapes thumbs and hands with a knife blade or a shard of glass, saying:

    We hereby deprive thee, to the extent of our powers, of the grace of spiritual blessing and of sacramental anointing, that thou shouldst forfeit the office of sanctifying and of blessing, and their effects.

    With the same knife blade or shard the degrading prelate lightly scrapes the head of the degradandus, saying:

    We utterly erase and eradicate the consecration, blessing and anointing bestowed upon thee, and we put thee out of the episcopal order, whence thou returnest unclothed.

    The ministers remove the shoes from the degradandus Thus ends the ceremony.

  • The Truth is that the Church needs to address the predation and cover-up crisis. It needs to establish a fully transparent and fully accountable governance mechanism that will do that. Whining about labels does not get us any closer to the Truth.

  • Your singular purpose is not to address clergy sex abuse and its cover-up, but to exercise your loathsome, hateful homophobia.

  • All churches make the claim they are ruled by Christ.

    Most churches and organizations are run by old people as they have lived a life and worked their way up through the ranks. Some churches need to add more old women and old members of various social.economic groups in its ruling circle, Further the ruling circle should be chosen by the believers. God will help them make the right decision.

  • How do you know they were old? The earthly Christ was only 30 when started his ministry and Likely his apostles were similar ages. They must have been in good shape to do all the traveling through out the known world .

  • There seems to be more than the usual amount of straining at gnats in this thread. I’m going to go out on a limb and assume that you’re smart enough to understand the difference between inadvertent word choice and intentional deception.

    If you are, as I suspect, that smart, then you’re just being a jerk. If you’re not, then I suggest you go find someone who is and have them explain it all to you.

  • One can also vote with their feet and find a church that does a better job of following Christ. There are many better options since the end of the Dark Ages.

  • The worldwide and longstanding clergy sexual abuse and coverup scandals are horrible enough, but we should also keep in mind two other areas where the Vatican and the bishops are equally bad.

    1. The Vatican’s absurd, criminally irresponsible bans on abortion and contraception, which have caused serious damage to millions of women and have driven to overpopulation that fuels the climate change that threatens our whole planet. Please note that vast majorities of Catholics ignore and oppose these bans but hack politicians like Trump, Pence and most GOP lawmakers kowtow to the bishops.

    2. The US bishops have for decades campaigned to have government divert public funds to Catholic and other church-run private schools through vouchers and tax credits despite constitutional objections and 30 state referenda since 1066 showing (as in AZ on Nov.6). that US voters oppose such abuse by 2 to 1. Please note that most Catholics send their kids to religiously neutral public schools and that Catholic school enrollment has declined from 5.5 million in 1965 to 2 million today.

    We the people need to keep all three of these Catholic related messes in mind as we vote and stay informed.

    Edd Doerr

  • Oops, on item 2 I left out that Trump, Pence and most GOP lawmakers kowtow to the bishops and fundamentalist evangelicals n the school finance issue.

  • The 2002 conclave cut abuse substantially.

    Since the Church is a single religious entity, working with the Holy Father appears to be the next step.

    So, with that going on you have nothing to complain about.

  • The deviant PEOPLE that caused the abuse need to be addressed; as well as those in the Vatican who condoned, hid or approve of the deviant behavior.
    Funny how the holy father and his closest advisors are embracing homosexuality; isn’t it? The final document from the youth synod moves the church toward accepting homosexuality. The same behavior that has ruined thousands of lives, cost the church billions of dollars and caused the faithful to flee; this is what the Vatican embraces?
    Why, because those advising the holy father are homosexual.

  • You are right about the claims. That is why there are two types of “political” religion in our Country on the Right and on the Left . But Jesus said, “I am THE light of the world… (John 8:12)” Catholics have issues with the politicized idea of church since: “The Sole Church of Christ …subsists in the Catholic Church, which is governed by the successor of Peter and by the bishops in communion with him. Nevertheless, many elements of santcification and of truth are found outside ITS VISIBLE CONFINES.(Catechism of the Catholic Church 870). The Holy Spirit can and does work throughout the world, among all peoples.

  • This should be done to the unholy bishops:

    THE RITE OF DEGRADATION

    If the degradandus be an archbishop, the degrading prelate removes his pallium, saying:

    We deprive thee of the rights and privileges of the episcopal dignity, symbolized in this pallium, since thou hast abused them.

    Then, even if the degradandus be a mere bishop, the degrading prelate removes his mitre, saying:

    We strip thy head of this miter, emblem of the episcopal dignity, since thou hast befouled it by thy ill government.

    Then one of the ministers brings the Book of the Gospel to the degradandus, which the degrading prelate takes from his hands, saying;

    Give us back the Gospel! Since thou hast spurned the grace of God and made thyself unworthy of the office of preaching, we rightly deprive you of this office.

    Then the degrading prelate removes the ring from the finger of the degradandus, saying:

    Rightly do we pull off thy ring, the sign of fidelity, since thou hast made bold to rape God’s own bride, the Church.

    At this time one of the ministers brings the degradandus a crosier, which the degrading prelate takes from his hands, saying;

    Thy shepherd’s staff we take from thee, that thou shalt be powerless henceforward to exercise that office of correction, which thou hast brought to disarray.

    Then the ministers take off the gloves of the degradandus, and the degrading prelate lightly scrapes thumbs and hands with a knife blade or a shard of glass, saying:

    We hereby deprive thee, to the extent of our powers, of the grace of spiritual blessing and of sacramental anointing, that thou shouldst forfeit the office of sanctifying and of blessing, and their effects.

    With the same knife blade or shard the degrading prelate lightly scrapes the head of the degradandus, saying:

    We utterly erase and eradicate the consecration, blessing and anointing bestowed upon thee, and we put thee out of the episcopal order, whence thou returnest unclothed.

    The ministers remove the shoes from the degradandus
    Thus ends the ceremony.

  • For damned good reasons. The Catholic Church is the largest sex-trafficker in the world. And you support it. Congratulations for enabling the sexual abuse of millions of children and youth.

  • “The Catholic Church is the largest sex-trafficker in the world.” supports these conclusions:

    – you are rabid anti-Catholic;

    – you have one or more loose bolts.

  • I pray to Yahweh three times as often as I pray to Queztlcoatl, and ten times as often as I seek advice from 3 day old stewed beets.

    I did pray regularly when I was a christian, with the same efficacy as conversations with Aztec deities and inedible veggies.

  • Yes, I am rabidly anti-Catholic, and I told you why. No loose bolts. Those with the loose bolts continue to put their cash in the collection plate.

  • I agree entirely with this overblown “outrage” about McCarrick. There have been enough hints over time that there is at least some sexual activity going on in seminaries that I was not at all surprised about it. Of course there is some homosexual activity. I suppose I thought about it as seminarian with seminarian in a relationship. I just did not apply this new awareness and outrage over abuse of power that the #MeToo movement has made so clear about women and men of power – I didn’t apply it to homosexual relations within the hierarchy.

    I fear this is going to be another attempt to link abuse to homosexuality rather than to some propensity we can’t adequately label which is sexuality expressed through dominance, a right to use power to secure sexual favors from the less powerful, some sense of superiority that flows into a right to secure or take sexual favors.

    I don’t know what it means anymore for the bishops or the Church to “get your house in order.” Maybe the first thing is to make sure any child sex abuse ends now. No more hiding anywhere in the world. Then there needs to be justice for those abused in the past – I think a lot of our current outrage is still about sex abuse which occurred long ago but for which there has been no justice for those abused. Then there must be mechanisms for holding accountable bishops who hide past, present, future child/youth sexual abuse and any other form of sexual abuse. Serious consequences up to cooperation with civil authorities where hiding sex abuse is a crime along with removal from the clerical state. Then worry about the McCarricks.

    The Church cannot do this under current structures and Church law that treats bishops as mini-potentates answerable only to God and the Pope, who is a foreign potentate for anyone who does not live in the Vatican. The bishops need to be answerable to those they serve and Church laws need to reflect that.

  • I don’t believe anyone thought you were anything BUT rabidly anti-Catholic.

    Of course I am rabidly anti-anti-Catholic.

    While you’ve bandied about some excuses for your sorry position, my impression is that the core of it is the Catholic opposition to LBGT legislation. I would assume, then, that you have a similar axe to grind with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and some others like the Southern Baptists.

    You are indeed fortunate since anti-Catholicism is the last remaining acceptable bigotry of the self-styled intelligentsia.

    If you were a garden variety KKK member you’d get shorter shrift from RNS.

  • That clarifies it.

    Your opinion is not based on an actual analysis, scientific evidence, polls, or any else of significance.

    It is just another of your anti-religious personal opinions.

    Well, good for you.

  • I think that we are passing in the night. That the Apostles became old, yes, those who survived into old age were old.

    But they weren’t old when they became followers of Jesus. I do’t think that by time they were old that there were a lot of them though. And they were scattered so far and wide, they were leading the Church as a group or quorum.

    As to Peter, a number of the Apostles outlived him, so shouldn’t it be the successor to the last living Apostle and the bishops? Oh, that’s right, you lot make a lot more to the keys thing than the rest of Christianity.

  • Read the article.

    Simon was a middle-aged man when recruited by Jesus.

    What in the heck are you trying to communicate with “…. so shouldn’t it be the successor to the last living Apostle and the bishops?”

  • No, there are many animal species in which homosexuality is part of their sexual spectrum. Especially among other species of primates, our close evolutionary relatives.

  • I didn’t state that the species was homosexual, I said that homosexuality was part of the sexual spectrum of the species, meaning that some members of the species are gay or lesbian, just as in humans, others are heterosexual, also as in humans.

  • I did. Read my other posts.
    Earlier I posted St Catherine of Siena’s commentary on unholy bishops and priests; which is relevant to today- but RNS or disqus marked her thoughts as spam and deleted the post.
    She also addresses the issue of homosexuality that influenced the teaching of the church.

  • Good Heavens! McCarrick. Really? I must say, given that, I tend to agree with then-Cardinal Ratzinger when he said, “We must not forget that the episcopal conferences have no theological basis, they do not belong to the structure of the Church, as willed by Christ, that cannot be eliminated; they have only a practical, concrete function.” Further, in the “Code of Canon Law, which prescribes the extent of the authority of the conferences, which cannot validly act in the name of all bishops unless each and every bishop has given his consent…(The Ratzinger Report, Among Priests and Bishops, Ignatius Press).

  • You can see why the Holy Father brought this consideration by this particular episcopal conference to a halt.

  • GOP doesn’t like Catholics much more than you do. Remember, the immigration thing? Truth is Catholics are much better balanced, than those on the far left or right.

  • Yes. But I’m afraid I may be the only one here. Catholics would like their Bishops to start standing up for them, I think. We know abuse is wrong.

  • I think your last point “they need to be answerable to those they serve and Church laws need to reflect that.” is important. Are local priests responsible to a board of church members or ONLY responsible to his Bishop? Is a Bishop responsible to a board of church members or only to whoever is above him in the hierarchy?

    Then there is the Church Law of infallibility that I have mentioned before in other posts. That must be changed.

  • There were lots of bishops that opposed McCarrick.

    The way the USCCB is constructed, the chairs of committees steer the agenda, and the staff can spike recommendations.

    Needless to say potentates like McCarrick could manipulate outcomes.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/second-us-bishop-says-vatican-letter-on-pro-abort-politicians-withheld-from

    The USCCB needs to be restructured.

    The same problem led to the Dick and Jane Do Eucharist 1970 English Missal paraphrase.

  • You should really read some of Francis’ encyclicals. He’s a Bishop who rocks! And rules the Vatican, too!

  • If I thought wholesale resignation would solve anything, I’d be all for it. But I don’t see how that would help.

  • It might be a good first step. New people might do a better review of the institution. It’s kind of hard to believe that those who have been instrumental in committing and/or covering and/or silently consenting to the abuse would do a very good job of changing anything.

  • Promoting your pedophile industry masquerading as a “church” is what is irrational, and perverted.

  • Your hatred of the Catholic Church, the Southern Baptist Convention, The Church of Jesus Christ of the latter-Day Saints, and any other church which dares to oppose your LBGT agenda does not make them a “pedophile industry” or anything else.

    It does make you a bigot.

  • The “issue” (only because of homophobes, btw) has already had its “good look”, to wit, the John Jay Study prepared by the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City.

    Bruskewitz, the dear old homophobe (a conclusion amply documented) who refused to participate in audits recommended by the Dallas Charter. The dear old bishop who *supposedly* handled matters on his own. The good hierarch, we now learn, who has left his own “legacy gift” to his successor; see https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/nebraska-catholic-diocese-rocked-by-old-abuse-allegations.

    Some people never learn, and they refuse to heed feedback about their performance from others.

    Bishop Bruskewitz, an exemplar of Midwest ecclesiastical arrogance.

  • B16’s “gift” was entirely consistent with the very language he authorized for insertion in CCC-2357 thru -2359 in the CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. If the former pope is homosexual (and this possibility has been mentioned a number of times by observers), his behavior as cardinal and pope would suggest to me, at least, self-loathing masked by decades of total denial about his sexuality.

    See https://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2010/08/the-pope-is-not-gay/183564/.

  • Until a study is accomplished, pretensions of this, that, or the other are basically just pretensions.

    Bishop Bruskewitz predicted exactly what would happen, also complained that the bishops gave themselves a free pass in 2002, and so ran his diocese that there was not a single lawsuit.

  • The phrase ” Church law that treats bishops as mini-potentates answerable only to God and the Pope” describes the fundamental Catholic belief that bishops are successors to the Apostles.

    The phrase “The bishops need to be answerable to those they serve and Church laws need to reflect that.” describes a request that the Catholic Church become Lutheran.

  • Infallibility is not a “Church Law”.

    Agnostics and atheists should stick to their subject matter.

  • “Why, because those advising the holy father are homosexual.”

    Well, not all of them.

    But there are fellow travelers in positions of power and/or authority.

    Judas also has successors.

  • Cancer is also part of the health spectrum of the species.

    We generally do not argue for an abnormality or exception to be a norm.

  • Get the optics on Catholic priests to change from thoughts of Bing in “Going my Way,” to those felt toward predatory reptiles? Who has benefited? Not the children. They will still be stuck in schools where the level of violence escalates — now child on child. . It won’t be any other religion, either, except that of the State.

  • The structure the church adopted was consistent with how power structures were made and sustained in the time of Roman emperors. The leaders of the Church found passages in the writings of early Christians that they could interpret to support the structure they wanted – and that Constantine ultimately demanded. But another structure could have been formed and could have been supported by other writings of early Christians. I do admit that the structure was highly effective in the success of the early Church in accomplishing the mission Christ gave to them – to spread the Good Word. It works to align one’s organizations with power and use that power to achieve the organizations goal.

    But there was nothing sacred in the structure then or now. It is man made. The problem now is the structure is an impediment to the continued success of the mission. It isn’t working anymore in the places where it was once so successful. I suggest that the mission is far more important than the shape of the organization – a pope, bishops with “apostolic succession”, an idea of popes and bishops ruling by divine right, an idea of perfection of church teachings as if these very human people could discern God exactly right. It doesn’t work any more.

  • Scripturally, that’s not true. Scientifically, that’s not true. Here’s why.

    In species that lack sophisticated language–which is to say all species but ours–sex serves many nonsexual purposes, including establishing alliances and appeasing enemies, all things animals must do with members of both sexes.
    ‘Sexuality helps animals maneuver around each other before making real contact,’ says Martin Daly, an evolutionary psychologist at McMaster University in Ontario. ‘Putting all that into a homosexual category seems simplistic.’

    Even if some animals do engage in homosexual activity purely for pleasure, their behavior still serves as an incomplete model–and an incomplete explanation–for human behavior.
    ‘In our society homosexuality means a principal or exclusive orientation,’ says psychology professor Frans de Waal of the Yerkes Primate Center in Atlanta. Among animals it’s just nonreproductive sexual behavior.’

    — from Time Magazine, April 1999, “The Gay Side of Nature”, Jeffrey Kluger

  • We have learned much in the almost 20 years since that article, the opinion of one man, was written. For one, the article you look to as your “proof” only speaks to random same sex sexual activity. There are plenty of animals, in different species, that develop same sex bonding, not just occasional hot sex to get on the good side of some alpha, tthey spend their lives together doing all of the things that couples of their speciaes do, day in and day out.

    Moving on.

  • No problem with moving on if you wish. But those Jezebel Honeybun Penguins, THEY definitely ain’t buying into your sales-pitch. Seems they know how to **straighten out** any male penguin confusion.

    “The San Francisco Zoo’s popular same-sex penguin couple has broken up. Male Magellan penguins Harry and Pepper have been together since 2003. The pair nested together and even incubated an egg laid by another penguin in 2008, but their relationship hit the rocks earlier this year when a female penguin, Linda, befriended Harry after her long-time companion died.

    “Zookeepers say Harry and Linda are happy and were able to successfully nest this year,” reported (San Francisco -hannel )KTUV.” — J. Matt Barber, “Gay Penguin Flies Straight”, 07-15=2009.

    Now look at that, folks. Harry and Pepper acted all gay, but all that gay mess flew away when Mama Linda showed up and said, “Come Hither Baby, I Got The Correct Bonding For You, Right Here.”

  • Hallelujah, you found the ONE case that proves everything that you believe has to be true for every species and bonded couple for all time and eternity.

    Oh, but wait, maybe Harry is bi-sexual!

  • The Roman Church was created by the Emperor Constantine and has functioned as a political body ever since as a direct state ruler or in collaboration with various emperors, monarchs, dictators, and authoritarian rulers throughout the world.

  • Bob, I am old. Old people generally end up rule most institutions because of experience, track records, etc..

  • You seem to only be observing what you are told by the secular historians. Constantine was the first Christian Roman Emperor. If your beef is with him, there is no longer a Roman Church, but there still will be a Catholic Church at the end of time. You will observe it at the Resurrection of the Body.

  • You seem to be observing only biased secular accounts of history. Constantine was the first Roman Christian Emperor. If the Roman Church you concocted died out with the Emperors, you will still have to acknowledge that there is a Catholic Church that will last to the end of time. You will observe it in action at the Resurrection of the Dead.

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