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Vatican opens new investigation, alleging disgraced cardinal secretly recorded Pope Francis

Cardinal Angelo Becciu, prosecutors say, secretly recorded a call with Pope Francis in which he seeks to avoid a trial on corruption charges.

Cardinal Angelo Becciu talks to journalists during a news conference in Rome, in this Sept. 25, 2020, file photo. (AP Photo/Gregorio Borgia)

VATICAN CITY (RNS) — Vatican prosecutors announced a new investigation of Cardinal Angelo Becciu, a formerly high-ranking Catholic church official already on trial on charges of financial mismanagement and corruption, alleging that the disgraced cleric illegally recorded a conversation with Pope Francis.

A recording of a conversation between the pope and Becciu was presented to Vatican judges Thursday (Nov. 24) by the chief Vatican prosecutor, Alessandro Diddi, who described it as “disturbing” evidence that the cardinal was attempting to coerce the pope to say something that could have redeemed him at the trial. The new investigation would add a charge of criminal conspiracy to his slate of alleged offenses.

The recording, dated July 24, 2021, was made three days before the start of a trial in which Becciu is one of 10 defendants involved in a controversial and costly real estate deal that lost, at last count, as much as 20 million euro. Becciu is charged with abuse of office, embezzlement and witness tampering in the purchase of a luxury apartment complex in London.

The conversation also took place just a day after Francis was released from the Roman hospital, Policlinico il Gemelli, after invasive colon surgery. Diddi pointed out that the pope’s answers in the conversation were short and confused, arguing that Francis was clearly “tired” from the operation.

“You have already condemned me, it’s useless to go to trial,” Becciu told the pontiff in the recorded phone call, referring to a letter he received from Francis in which the pope presented him with the charges by Vatican prosecutors. The cardinal then asked Francis to confirm that he authorized the expenditure of 500,000 euro for an agency to negotiate the liberation of a nun who had been kidnapped in Mali.

“See, I recall that I informed you about all of this … remember?” Becciu said, according to the transcript of the conversation published by Italian news outlet Adnkronos.

Vatican prosecutors claim that Becciu sent 575,000 euro to Cecilia Marogna, a self-proclaimed international relations expert who spent the Vatican money on luxury goods and spa treatments. Marogna, known as “the Cardinal’s Lady” in the Italian press, is never mentioned in the conversation with the pope.

The recording is part of a series of documents and evidence collected by the financial police in Becciu’s native region of Sardinia.

Becciu also asks whether Francis intended to remove a seal of pontifical secrecy on the Vatican’s international dealings, including ransoms paid for its clergy. “This is your decision Holy Father, I won’t force you if we won’t observe the pontifical secret,” he said.

In the recording, the voices of Becciu’s niece, Maria Luisa Zambrano, and an unidentified man can be heard listening in on the conversation. Prosecutors claim that their presence violates Vatican secrecy laws.

In this Feb. 9, 2017, file photo, Monsignor Angelo Becciu presides over a Eucharistic liturgy at St. John Lateran Basilica in Rome. (AP Photo/Gregorio Borgia, File)

In this Feb. 9, 2017, file photo, Monsignor Angelo Becciu presides over a Eucharistic liturgy at St. John Lateran Basilica in Rome. (AP Photo/Gregorio Borgia, File)

Francis can be heard answering simply, “I understand,” but the pontiff insisted he intends to remain above the dynamics of the trial, asking Becciu to send a written declaration of his case.

In a text message two days before the recording to another of Becciu’s relatives, Giovanna Pani, the cardinal writes that the pope “wants me dead.”

In September 2020, Pope Francis accepted Becciu’s resignation from all his Vatican positions and stripped him of all his rights as a cardinal, while allowing him to keep the title. Local media at the time reported that Becciu had funneled Vatican funds to a charitable organization, Cooperativa Spes, owned by his brother and two other relatives and friends. Becciu has vehemently denied the claims.

While the criminal conspiracy investigation is a separate matter, Diddi said he presented the evidence at the current trial because he believed it was relevant. He also showed Vatican judges a statement by the late bishop of Orzieri, in Sardinia, Sergio Pintor, who claimed that Becciu ran the local charity and diocese “at the family level.” Diddi also presented Spes financial documents that prosecutors claim were “falsified.”


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The latest revelations by prosecutors came as a long-awaited witness, Monsignor Alberto Perlasca, finally took the stand at the trial. Once a target of the investigation, Perlasca, who headed the administrative office of the Vatican Secretariat of State until 2018 and answered directly to Becciu, is now a star prosecution witness.

Perlasca’s testimony was riddled with inconsistencies, and he repeatedly claimed to not remember details of events, which brought frequent admonishments from head Vatican judge Giuseppe Pignatone about the risk of perjury.

Perlasca suggested that Becciu used his influence to have Perlasca fired after he began speaking to the Vatican prosecutors. The monsignor admitted to secretly recording Becciu during a dinner with him in September 2020 and bringing it to Vatican policemen. “I understood that he was playing with me,” he said, “but what he didn’t understand is that I no longer hung on his lips, I had already taken my distance from the 11-year-long relationship of dedication and devotion.”

Asked by defense lawyers why he had accused his former superior, Perlasca answered, “because he made me do the things that he is charged with today. I wanted to make clear that I was neither accomplice, complicit nor abettor. I got involved in the events because he made me do things I didn’t want to do.”

Becciu’s legal team pushed back later when talking to reporters, saying Perlasca’s testimony does not match the charges against their client.

Perlasca will testify again on Nov. 30.


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