Isaiah Dupree holds a sign as demonstrators gather at Washington Square Park to protest against President Trump in New York City on Jan. 25, 2017. Photo courtesy of Reuters/Shannon Stapleton

Trump: No Muslim ban, just immigration restrictions

(USA Today) President Trump denies he is about to authorize a ban on Muslim migration, saying he plans only restrictions on entry from countries with a history of terrorism.

"It's countries that have tremendous terror," Trump told ABC News in his first television interview as president. "And it's countries that people are going to come in and cause us tremendous problems."

The Trump team is poised to suspend refugee and visa programs as applied to many Muslim countries in the Middle East, including war-torn Syria.

The orders could come as early as Thursday (Jan. 26). 
Critics of the imminent orders said they will block law-abiding Muslims trying to escape the very kind of violence Trump is talking about.

Rabbi Jack Moline, president of the Interfaith Alliance, called it a "de facto" ban on Muslims.

"The United States has long prided itself as a safe bastion for refugees around the globe facing persecution and strife," Moline said. "President Trump is poised to trample upon that great legacy in one of his first major acts in office."

Trump told ABC News his target is the Islamic State group and other extremists: "You're looking at people that come in, in many cases, in some cases with evil intentions. I don't want that."

Some people could get in, Trump suggested, but only after what he called "extreme vetting."

"We're going to have extreme vetting in all cases," he told ABC. "And I mean extreme."

Comments

  1. I wonder if we will start restricting white immigration,

  2. Trump might as well hold executions of people from these countries. He is doing the closest thing. Refugees are people who can’t do back to their country out of a legitimate fear of imminent harm if sent back.

    The link below gives a good example of the consequences of turning back refugees from countries where dangerous mayhem is happening.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis

  3. Most in the Middle East and North Africa /are/ caucasoid.

  4. A term which really has no meaning. Perhaps I should have said white skinned, as in Northern European.

  5. The caucasoid/negroid/mongoloid divide is the ~only~ racial divide that has any meaning. All the rest is unscientific schlock.

    But even by your nonsense standards, some of the effected countries are generally seen as “white” in skin color.

  6. That Caucasoid-negroid-mongoloid division is also unscientific schlock. Indians from India are brown to black, but considered caucasoids.
    but you can insult me if you like. Dam’ white of you.

  7. “Indians from India are brown to black, but considered caucasoids.”

    Gee, maybe because any real genetic and linguistic markers of shared heritage don’t have anything to do with “skin color”, which is frankly not much of anything to go on when trying to form genetic groups for people.

    Would you prefer they be classed “Asian” as the Brits or Americans do despite sharing no unique genetic markers nor linguistic connections to other groups in that classification??

    And I ain’t white. Nor did I insult you. All I said is that non-scientific standards of measuring “races” are stupid. Skin color is a terrible way to do it, because it tells you nothing. Mexicans, Indians, Scandinavians, Arabs, and Somalis all share common genetic features despite arbitrary varying skin shades. Trying to divide people by skin color is absurd and serves no scientific purpose, the only purpose it serves is dividing people into groups. Which is why mostly it is racists who tend to view race that way.

  8. Your last paragraph was entirely my point, especially your last sentence.

    Thank you. But you did say this: “But even by your nonsense standards, some of the effected countries are generally seen as “white” in skin color.” Sounded fairly insulting to me.

    And I know you’re not white.

  9. Skin color is a nonsense way to judge race. I insulted the standard as “nonsense”, nothing directed at you in that quote. And it seems from this latest post that you too feel the standard is nonsense… so I don’t see what the problem was?? Do you have a problem with me calling the standard of “race” used primarily by racists “nonsense”??

  10. My apologies. It looks like we’re in agreement.

  11. The Pentagon trolled the President on the subject of refugees
    https://warisboring.com/did-the-pentagons-twitter-account-subtweet-donald-trump-a44cbd2c7413#.ef5clj6du

    “…in a rare interview with Politico, [soon to be Secy of Defense James Mattis] blasted Trump’s campaign promise to bar Muslims from coming into the country saying it made America appear as if “we have lost faith in reason” and damages relations with key allies in the Middle East. ….They think we’ve completely lost it. This kind of thing is causing us great damage right now, and it’s sending shock waves through this international system,” Mattis said.

  12. We need to do extreme vetting on his cabinet nominees!

  13. Don’t let my User name confuse you. I’m not Russian, I’m Italian. I chose that particular name because I’m a huge Tolstoy fan.
    I remember helping helping my Grandfather in his garden, tending to the peppers and eggplants. When we were finished we would sit down, him with a glass of Grappa, me with a soda. He would always remind me: “Anthony, always remember there are only two kinds of people in this world. Italians and everybody else. And they all wish they were Italian”. And that’s the only divide that matters.

  14. http://fortune.com/2017/01/27/donald-trump-muslim-immigration-ban-conflict/ Muslim countries except for those where he has business interests including the source country of the extremist theology wahaabism (sp?), American oil interests and the 9/11 terrorists.

    This is an action that is self-serving, reinforcing Islamophobia and making republican constituents feel like he has addressed terrorism on the backs of some of the most currently vulnerable people in the world.

  15. “I chose that particular name because I’m a huge Tolstoy fan.”

    +1 for the reference.

    Just recently finished watching the Sergei Bondarchuk version of the epic, all 7+ hours of it. I actually liked the BBC one last year only slightly better only because the actors were more age appropriate for the parts.

  16. One country that won’t be taking Syrian refugees: Israel. http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-syrian-refugees-israel-20150906-story.html

    Of course Israel has no problem advocating for the dismemberment of Syria, and won’t support any Russian orchestrated ceasefire in Syria, unless Russia ceases bombing Al-Qaeda and Islamic State.

    Israel’s defense minister and its intelligence chief have called for PARTITIONING Syria into ethnic enclaves.
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4765928,00.html
    Israeli Defense Minister Blasts Russia for not including ISIS in ceasefire:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-3459042/Israel-minister-doubts-Syria-ceasefire-hold.html
    “It is difficult for me to see a ceasefire while Daesh (the Islamic State group) and Al-Nusra Front (the Syrian Al-Qaeda affiliate) are not part of the process and the Russians say they will strike both organisations,” a statement said.

  17. It’s amazing when you cite real sources the posts are far less inflammatory. Go figure.

  18. Shouldn’t the ban include a ban on Russian immigrants too? The Russian government also supports terrorism too. Trump has exempted Christians so it is a ban on Muslims. Although there are Jews in Syria, Iran and Yemen.

  19. We share 98% of our DNA with chimpanzees. There isn’t that much difference between the 2% that’s left.

  20. Israel will take in Syrian orphans, so you’re wrong. All those citations are old. There is a large population of Syrian Jews in Israel. They have been trying to find the best way of helping Syrians. There are still Jews in Syria, Yemen and Iran. Trump has exempted Christians, but not Jews which shows how ridiculous the immigration ban is.

  21. This Jerusalem Post article was published October 7, 2016 and it makes clear that Israel had not accepted any Syrian refugees up until that point, although it has treated 2,500 wounded Syrians in Israeli hospitals.
    http://m.jpost.com/Opinion/EDITORS-NOTES-The-Syrian-moral-dilemma-469613#article=6022OUI4OTVFNjMzMEYzRUMwQ0ZGQ0NFQ0M3MTMyRDUyNjI=

    Report: Israel treating al-Qaida fighters wounded in Syria civil war. http://m.jpost.com/Middle-East/Report-Israel-treating-al-Qaida-fighters-wounded-in-Syria-civil-war-393862#article=6017OTBEMTJFNzMzQzE4RDg2OEJBMEVCOUQ5ODdCNjE0MDc=

    In January 2017, Israel decided it will take in 100 Syrian children as refugees…what a gigantic accomplishment, (note the sarcasm).
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-to-take-in-100-orphaned-syrian-children-as-refugees/

  22. Hey (((Ben))), check it out, Zionist hypocrisy on full display! The Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith (ADL), the leading Jewish advocacy organization in the USA, condemns Patrick Buchanen, by stating that: Buchanan laments that the United States is becoming an increasingly diverse country, that minorities will soon outnumber White Americans & that the country “is disintegrating, ethnically, culturally, morally, politically.”
    http://archive.adl.org/special_reports/patrick_buchanan2/#.VKJx48DABg

    But in another article, the ADL states:A truly Jewish state can exist, as it does now, only with an overwhelming Jewish majority.
    http://archive.adl.org/media_watch/newspapers/20120510-wash+times.html#.VKJv9sDABg

  23. According to the reports (on President Trump’s executive order): “The order bars all people hailing from Iraq, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen.”

    Critics had attacked Trump for selecting these seven countries and not selecting other states “linked to his sprawling business empire.” Bloomberg and Forbes bought into this.

    But, wait a sec. I read the order and Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen are not mentioned in it. Only Syria is there.

    So where are the seven nations? Where is the “Muslim ban”? It turns out this was a form of fake news, or alternative facts. Trump didn’t select seven “Muslim-majority” countries. US President Barack Obama’s administration selected these seven Muslim-majority countries.

    Read more at: Obama’s administration made the “Muslim ban” possible and the media won’t tell you. By SETH J. FRANTZMAN.

    https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/

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