Supreme court nominee Brett Kavanaugh testifies before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C., on Sept. 27, 2018. (Saul Loeb/Pool Photo via AP)

God and Man at the Kavanaugh hearing

(RNS) — There was a fair amount of God talk at the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, though only in the afternoon, when Brett Kavanaugh (Catholic) testified. He let the senators know that he thanks God every day for his wife and family. He swore that he was innocent "under oath, before the Senate and the nation; before my family and God."

We also got to hear how his 10-year-old daughter ("little Liza") proposed the the family pray for "the woman"—accuser Catherine Blasey Ford. And to hear Kavanaugh declare that his detailed 1982 calendars made no mention of going to church because "for me, going to church on Sundays was like brushing my teeth, automatic." And, presumably, no less prophylactic.

But the best was left for the day's final questioner, Sen. John Neely Kennedy (Methodist) of Louisiana. "Do you believe in God," he queried. "I do," replied the judge. Whereupon Kennedy proceeded to afford the witness "a last opportunity, right here, right in front of God and country. I want you to look me in the eye."

KENNEDY: None of these allegations are true?

KAVANAUGH: Correct.

KENNEDY: No doubt in your mind?

KAVANAUGH: Zero, I’m 100 percent certain.

KENNEDY: Not even a scintilla?

KAVANAUGH: Not a scintilla; 100 percent certain, senator.

KENNEDY: You swear to God?

KAVANAUGH: I swear to God.

But now that Sen. Jeff Flake (Mormon) has gotten the final vote put off by forcing Mitch McConnell (Baptist) and Donald Trump (whatever) to let the FBI investigate the allegations, let's take a look at a more reflective exercise in religious persuasion, Thursday's editorial in America, the venerable magazine of the selfsame Jesuits that run Brett Kavanaugh's alma mater, Georgetown Prep.

The editors, who had previously endorsed Kavanaugh's appointment on pro-life grounds, point out that if the question before the Senate were Kavanaugh's legal or moral responsibility for the alleged assault on Dr. Blasey, then "more stringent" standards of proof would apply.

But the question is not solely about Judge Kavanaugh’s responsibility, nor is it any longer primarily about his qualifications. Rather it is about the prudence of his nomination and potential confirmation. In addition to being a fight over policy issues, which it already was, his nomination has also become a referendum on how to address allegations of sexual assault.

Like it or not, the Judiciary Committee's hearings and deliberations have become "a bellwether of the way the country treats women when their reports of harassment, assault and abuse threaten to derail the careers of powerful men."

Prudence, according to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, "is the virtue that disposes practical reason to discern our true good in every circumstance and to choose the right means of achieving it." Exercising their prudential judgment, the editors reached the conclusion that "[t]he best of the bad resolutions available in this dilemma is for Judge Kavanaugh’s nomination to be withdrawn."

As they wait for the FBI to deliver the results of its investigation, it would be good if the President and the Republican members of the world's greatest deliberative body take this judgment to heart.

Comments

  1. Agree. If Kavanaugh had any sense of honor, he would withdraw. His rage and conspiracy theory disqualify him as a potential Supreme Court judge as well as his current position.

  2. MARK SILK: “Exercising their PRUDENTIAL judgment, the editors [of America] reached the conclusion that ‘[t]he best of the bad resolutions available in this dilemma is for Judge Kavanaugh’s nomination to be withdrawn.’ … [I agree.] It would be good if the President and the Republican members of the world’s greatest deliberative body take this judgment to heart.”

    APOSTLE PAUL: “In Jesus Christ we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of the grace of the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which He lavished on us in all wisdom and action-producing PRUDENCE [φρονήσει = phroneesei].”

    HpO: Call this round, Mark Silk’s PRUDENCE vs Apostle Paul’s. And the score is Paul 1:0 Silk.

    Source: Ephesians 1:7-8.

  3. FYII: The only true PRUDENCE, according to apostle Paul, is understanding that leads to right action. It’s that brand of visceral opinion which pleases the Lord because of its formation and deliberation by God’s inworkings of faith. This PRUDENCE, unlike Mark Silk’s, America magazine’s and yours, is a Christ-enlightened perspective that has the insight to make shrewd and intelligent life-applications in the will of God.

    Source: Ephesians 1:7-8.

  4. If Feinstein had any sense of honor, she’d resign from the Senate.

    His rage at being the target of a toxic concoction of hogwash was both understandable and IMHO understated.

    Enough of this crap from the Dems is enough.

  5. “But now that Sen. Jeff Flake (Mormon) has gotten the final vote put off by forcing Mitch McConnell (Baptist) and Donald Trump (whatever) to let the FBI investigate the allegations, let’s take a look at a more reflective exercise in religious persuasion, Thursday’s editorial in America, the venerable magazine of the selfsame Jesuits that run Brett Kavanaugh’s alma mater, Georgetown Prep.”

    Well, no.

    Not hardly.

    Nope.

    Anyone familiar with the Jesuits understands that within the order there is a wide range of opinions, from way left of center (one of the reasons RNS columnist Thomas Reese, SJ, is no longer editor of America) to not quite as right as Genghis Kahn.

    America has been the voice of the left

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/America-magazine/

    of the American Jesuits for a number of years.

    I can understand that Dr. Silk is pleased to find that these liberal Jesuits, who often spar with their own church, express views which line up with his left of center secular Jewish proclivities:

    “Like it or not, the Judiciary Committee’s hearings and deliberations have become ‘a bellwether of the way the country treats women when their reports of harassment, assault and abuse threaten to derail the careers of powerful men.'”

    but that statement is twaddle, through and through.

    Yes, Feinstein et al would like to channel the #MeToo movement, but what they are actually channeling is the Leo Frank lynching.

    .

  6. Kavanaugh has worked a lifetime to be honorable, supportive, faithful and moral. His work is excellent, his judgements sound and his work with and support of women is flawless and acclaimed. He is now being pilloried and slandered for the most vile of reasons, by politicians and partisans with not a scintilla of ethics or principles. His reputation has been sullied, his family damaged and when he fights back, indignant at the injustice and viciousness of it all, the selfsame bottom feeders (who are truly conspiring to defeat any conservative nominee) accuse him of being too emotional. What unfairly accused person would not be angry and fight back, especially if family has been injured? Who would not be angry at a Feinstein, a Blumenthal, a Harris? These craven Democrats’ hypocrisy and deceit know no bounds, as their main goal is delay and sliming opposition in order to maintain power, injure the president and maintain the legal right to kill children. The Jesuits and their leftist leadership are no guides for moral action. If they were, they would uphold the pursuit of truth and justice as the virtues to honor. President Trump was correct in assessing Kavanaugh’s opposition when he said evil is at work here.

  7. Rage at the Democrats, not a critical word about Dr. Blasey. That’s what #MeToo has achieved so far.

  8. How many words would you like about Dr. Ford and why?

    This debacle has launched a torpedo at the waterline of #MeToo, and it is taking on water fast.

    Americans expect a presumption of innocence and proof beyond reasonable doubt, not “She’s female, believe her, and throw the accused to the lions.”

    Dr. Ford is a victim.

    Let’s do the chronology:

    1. Feinstein got a letter from a constituent alleging sexual harassment by Judge Brett Kavanaugh during his high school years. She sat on it for 60 days, only to bring it up after hearings were concluded, obviously for some political bang, following the news that Kavanaugh would likely be confirmed without incident.

    2. Asked about it at the time, Feinstein said she had questions about whether it was truthful. That was her argument and stayed her argument, until Ford became politically useful.

    3. Then Feinstein, or her staff, leaked the letter to the press, following Feinstein’s promises of confidentiality to the writer, outing her and forcing her to come forward as a named witness whether she liked it or not. That backed the witness, Christine Blasey Ford into a corner, forcing her to come forward with her allegations in testimony under oath, which, given the perjury trap it was for her, were quite vague. Ford herself said she believed she was betrayed and outed by someone on Feinstein’s staff.

    4. That became obvious when Feinstein was instrumental in getting Ford a leftwing lawyer to do media grandstanding.

    5. Feinstein was confronted about her political opportunism by Ted Cruz, and tried to brush the whole thing off, begging his question about how the letter was leaked by saying reporters were the problem, not leakage. Pressed by another senator, she said she asked their staff and they said “no”. Sneaky leakers would never lie, now, would they?

    6. In a moment of perfect irony, when questioned on this matter, the woman who claims to have been traumatized for a lifetime by having a hand clamped over her mouth was cut off from speaking by one of her handlers who suddenly clamped her hand over the microphone.

    If, as seems probable, Dr. Ford suffers from a significant anxiety disorder which has been poorly treated and now affixed to the person of Judge Kavanaugh, I tremble to think of the damage being used as a pawn like this has done her.

    Quoting Joseph N. Welch to Feinstein, “Have you no sense of decency …? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?”

    .

  9. I agree. That rant about this all being a conspiracy disqualifies him for a seat on the Supreme Court.

  10. Or a medal for seeing through a despicable cowardly underhanded attempt to subvert both the truth and the Constitutional advice and consent process.

  11. I am not sure that we need to blame women once again for men’s actions….wow.

  12. “Exercising their prudential judgment, the editors reached the conclusion that ‘[t]he best of the bad resolutions available in this dilemma is for Judge Kavanaugh’s nomination to be withdrawn.’”

    Translation: “Exercising their prudential judgment, the editors reached the conclusion that ‘[t]he best of the bad resolutions available in this dilemma is for [us to surrender to the dictats of the mob].’” These editors need to remember their Paul: “Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.”

  13. It’s unfortunate, that Kavanaugh will be “judged” because of the choices he made during his youth. It’s also unfortunate, minority teenagers being tried as adults are paying the consequences for choices they made for rest of their lives, as well.

  14. I don’t understand the preoccupation with Judge Kavanaugh supporters wanting him seated on the highest court of the land. What we saw during the hearings was not only someone who saw himself as a “Saint”, but someone who would turn into the Hulk before our very eyes and not for very good reasons.

  15. Toward a highly biased and partisan PRUDENCE, then, Mr. Mark Silk? Is that what you want & endorse? For truth be told, that Jesuits’ America Magazine that you showcase here, is a natural born anti-conservative, anti-Republican, anti-Trump from the get-go, according to:

    (1) Michelle Boorstein, “America, a popular intellectual Catholic magazine, bans terms ‘liberal,’ ‘conservative’”, Washington Post, June 28, 2013:

    “For decades, America magazine has been a favorite of Catholic liberal intellectuals … Jesuits, an order known for engaging controversial issues in the church”!

    (2) Wikipedia:

    “Thomas J. Reese SJ (born 1945) is an American Catholic Jesuit priest, author, and journalist. He is a senior analyst at Religion News Service, a former columnist at National Catholic Reporter, and a former editor-in-chief of the weekly Catholic magazine America. … The leadership of Reese from 1998 to 2005 … caused the magazine to come under increasing scrutiny by the Vatican; Father Reese was forced to resign in May 2005 under orders from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) … In 2009, under the leadership of Drew Christiansen, the editorial board gave support to an invitation for U.S. President Barack Obama to receive an honorary degree at the University of Notre Dame, which was controversial after directives [against such partisanship] from the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops”!

    (3) Damian Thompson, “Caught in the culture wars”, Catholic Herald, May 9, 2018:

    “America magazine [is a] dogmatically left-liberal publication”!

    (4) Monica Showalter, “Jesuit magazine demonstrates a special kind of cowardice on Kavanaugh”, American Thinker, September 29, 2018:

    “The America editorial is particularly galling because … their aim is to please the left … allowing the left to paint Catholic education as a cesspit of sex harassment and trying instead to make nice with the left as the crocodile that would eat them last”!

  16. The preoccupation is that he is an excellent judge known for applying the law as it is written.

    What we saw at the hearings was a family man with an impeccable record, no known issues as an adult, whose wife, 10-year-old daughter, and he received death threats because a mendacious sandbagger, Dianne Feinstein, dropped some crap into the porridge when it became apparent he would be approved. If those are not “very good reasons”, there are no very good reasons.

    Clarence Thomas tried the quiet stoic approach.

    That did not work either.

  17. No, no one who is fair-minded and who demands facts will judge Kavanaugh for any choices he made in his youth.

  18. “H.U.L.K.”, you say?

    Heckled? Yup.
    Unseated? Yup.
    Lambasted? Yup.
    Kaput? Yup.

    Happy now?

  19. So you want someone who was alleged to attempt rape during his youth, to sit on the highest court of the land? Unbelievable!

  20. I’d want someone who was alleged to have conducted the Holocaust to sit on the highest court of the land if he was innocent.

    Beyond knowing who and what you like, you’re really not contributing much to a discussion.

  21. “whatever a man sows, that he will also reap”

    Excellent point. Kavanaugh sowed, and now he is reaping.

  22. Proof that he actually sowed, please. Thirty-year-old uncorroborated accusations will not be enough, real proof will be required.Or is this the standard you think should be applied to all nominations and candidates going forward? I’d rather have presumption of innocence, than the Red Queen’s Rule (verdict first, trial after if at all).

  23. On the other hand, Dr. Silk does know what he likes, and has liked all of his adult life, and knows where to find endorsements of those tastes.

    America does know its readership.

  24. Apparently he sowed a distinguished judicial career, respect among women employees and peers, an upright and decent daughter, and anger among the lunatic fringe.

    And now the lunatic fringe is trying to reap him.

  25. Feinstein already tipped her hand where she’d shovel shit had Barrett been nominated.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/02/justice-barrett-amy-coney-feinstein-692199

    “A confrontation with the California senator during her confirmation hearing to the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals last October vaulted Barrett, 46, onto the national stage. As Feinstein pressed her on whether she would be able to render judicial rulings faithful to the law given her deeply held religious beliefs, Barrett became a hero to religious conservatives who believe liberal Democrats target them for their faith.”

    “‘The dogma lives loudly within you, and that’s of concern when you come to big issues that people have fought for for years in this country,’ Feinstein told Barrett.”

    Perhaps Feinstein should change her name to “Yoda”, or perhaps “Luigi”.

  26. You know what, brother? If it weren’t for Keri Day’s and Mark Silk’s opinions, I would’ve stayed away from this news-inflammation disorder plaguing everyone’s psyche. But these 2 didn’t mince highly prejudicial words at all. I can’t have that, can I now? Truth be told, I don’t care for Kavanaugh, I don’t care for Ford, just leave me alone. But these 2? Boy oh boy, enough of this!

  27. Thanks for asking for it. For “a critical word about Dr. Blasey”, I mean. Or two. Nah, y’know what? Make that four! And thanks for making me do this research for you.

    (1) “During her testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee, Ford claimed she was 100 percent certain that it had been Kavanaugh who assaulted her. When asked how she could be so sure after 36 years, she explained, as a psychologist, that trauma can help keep memories vivid and clear. Medically speaking, however, this is only half the answer. … I am specifically disputing the claim that the psychological arousal caused by such an event guarantees that her memory of the event is accurate. On the contrary, the trauma following the experience may actually impede her memory”!

    (2) “Democrats heaped praise on Ford and pointed to gaps in her memory as evidence that she has been truthful, with Illinois Senator Dick Durbin noting that a ‘polished liar’ can create a ‘seamless story’ while a survivor ‘cannot be expected’ to remember every detail. Which just goes to show [however] that politicians tend not to be able to think logically. Regardless of the veracity of Ford’s claims, a ‘polished liar’ would know that a true-sounding story would not be seamless. Otherwise they would not be a polished liar”!

    (3) “Christine Blasey Ford has testified at the Kavanaugh hearings … However, there were still enormous problems with her testimony. 1. She still can’t confirm the basics of her account … 2. There’s the polygraph weirdness … 3. She could have testified in California … 4. Ford’s fear of flying is fake … 5. Her witnesses don’t back up her account”!

    (4) “Who exactly is Christine Blasey Ford, and why should we trust her account of an incident that occurred 36 years ago and apparently without a single witness to substantiate her claim? As it turns out, Christine Blasey Ford, a professor at Palo Alto University in California, appears to have a strong interest in politics, and not of the sort connected to the Trump administration. She has donated funds to ActBlue, a nonprofit organization that supports Democratic Party candidates, according to The Wall Street Journal. She also supported a campaign to halt the Trump administration’s alleged separation of migrant parents and their children at the US border. In other words, Blasey Ford is a card-carrying Democrat who has worked against at least some of the Trump administration’s programs. … That would motivate her, possibly at the encouragement of some third party, to cast aspersions on Brett Kavanaugh”!

    Source: (1) Adam Barsouk, “Ford Argued Trauma Improves Memory, But That’s Not What The Science Says”, The Federalist, September 28, 2018. (2) SOTT: Signs of the Times, September 27, 2018, “Highlights from Thursday’s Ford/Kavanaugh dual testimony”. (3) John Hawkins, “Five Big Problems with Christine Blasey Ford’s Testimony at the Kavanaugh Hearings”, PJ Media, September 27, 2018. (4) Robert Bridge, “Fast Times at Feinstein High: Dems ambush Brett Kavanaugh with last-minute sex assault charges”, RT, September 19-20, 2018.

  28. Ah you too were made by Mark Silk to research & present America magazine’s politics. So much for “Opinion” pieces around here at St. RNS. Ya notice: more and more “Opinion” pieces around here, and less and less “Breaking News” as promised by their new bosses? And they still call it “Religion News Service”? There’s a “On Her Majesty’s Secret Service” ring to it, though, ain’t there, as in that 1969 British spy film and the sixth in the James Bond series?

  29. Clarence Thomas’ ranting that Anita Hill’s accusations and the subsequent hearing was nothing but “a high tech lynching” is considered a quiet, stoic approach?

  30. It was accurate.

    I watched the hearings. He sat there stoically. And then he told it like it was.

  31. Please clarify this comment:

    “I’d want someone who was alleged to have conducted the Holocaust to sit on the highest court of the land if he was innocent…”

  32. He certainly could not have done more to fish for sympathy and/or agreement with the accuser.

  33. Judge Kavanaugh indeed went Clarence Thomas on the Dems. I guess he figured if it worked for Thomas it would work for him.

  34. I believe Dianne Feinstein would welcome Amy Coney Barrett, maybe not with open arms, after the Kavanaugh allegations, which are mounting up as we chat.

  35. Mark, do you think reason and compassion require us to believe accusers/survivors, or do reason and compassion just require that we give them the benefit of the doubt without recrimination and investigate their complaints fully? I think we may be crossing a dangerous line if it’s the former.

  36. I’ve already posted what Feinstein tried when Barrett was up for a district judgeship.

    That, as far as I am concerned, ends our exchange on the topic.

  37. It’s OK, Mark, I’ll wait for my turn after hers in this Q&A. Kinda cut the line, she did, if you ask me. Then again there are so many commentators before this one of hers. So don’t forget their turn in this Q&A. Then again it is your article, you’re the author and all that. Then again, maybe we all should preface all our comments with a “Mark, do you think” etc., etc. from now on. “Mark, [what] do you think”?

  38. The motto is “Believe Women”.

    It does not take Socrates to understand what that implies about believing men.

  39. Or just let Mark tell us what to think and cease commenting.

  40. Monica, I think we should investigate credible allegations fully, no more no less. I find Dr. Blasey’s allegations credible. I have some experience in this regard, having spent several years covering criminal trials as a journalist.

  41. If I understand you correctly, we agree. I’m disturbed both by people who take shortcuts and by people who go beyond demanding full investigations to assert, often very aggressively, that they believe accusers prior to any investigation.

  42. Credible does not equal true.

    The Republican’s questioner, a trained prosecutor specializing in sex offenses, after it was all over reported to the Republican senators she would not even try to get a search warrant based on Dr. Ford’s comments.

    My experience in this area is a bit closer to the bone.

    What would we investigate?

    Every witness she has provided has bombed out totally.

    She cannot provide a date, a place, how she got there.

    The accused denies it and it is inconsistent with his adult behavior.

    There is no physical evidence, no semen stains, no scratches, no fingerprints, no film, no tape recordings, video, absolutely nothing at all.

    So, how would we investigate it beyond this?

    Give us your best shot.

  43. Other than your coverage of so-called “credible allegations” of sexual abuses by Catholic priests, what other coverage of so-called “credible allegations” not involving them have you done, though, Mark? Surely you can’t mean just these ones?

    (1) Mark Silk, “Two suicides bring probe of lockups,” Atlanta Journal-Constitution, April 25, 1995.

    (2) Mark Silk, “Study: Kids in jail often suffer psychological disorders,” Atlanta Journal-Constitution, February 28, 1996.

    Unless, of course, you’re insinuating that Christine Blasey Ford might’ve been sexually abused by Catholic priests? Which, therefore, all makes for “credible allegations” against Brett Kavanaugh by her somehow? Huh? Wait, what? How does that process in the journalist’s mind, again? I must’ve missed the moment the spin, well, spins. Run that by me again, please, but easy on the fake-news spin, yeah?

  44. You don’t understand because you make decisions based upon emotion; and not reason or fact.
    Simply put, you identify with Ford; so that is who gets your vote; regardless of fact.
    This is why kavanaugh supporters are pissed:
    1) this is a political game – and both sides want to win.
    2) both sides have used procedures to pkay games with judicial appointments in the past.
    3) because this is a game, the democrats went looking for dirt to destroy kavanaugh to sink his nomination until they take the senate and can block trump picks until 2018.
    4) that being said, up until Clarence Thomas, both republicans and democrats respected the rules of the senate and voted for the others judges (as long as they were qualified). Republicans voted for Obama’s picks even though they didn’t like their politics.
    5) democrats gave gorsuch a hard time and cannot allow kavanaugh to be seated. Note that the new SCOTUS calendar starts Monday.
    6) kavanaugh is qualified. The night before the vote, the Ford accusation is dropped by Feinstein – who held it for 60 days. There is no time for any investigation to occur if needed.
    7) THIS IS IMPORTANT: in the US, we are innocent until proven guilty. After the story broke, the media and democrats tried to slander kavanaugh and force him to withdraw. There is no evidence or witnesses backing up fords accusations (as of now).
    8) because the new court docket starts October 1, there is no time to send a new nominee.

  45. Hang on, he’s got witnesses, they’re, uh ….. they’re, uh …. well, take his word for it.

    We have a she said/he said situation. There is no way to resolve it, so we favor the accused.

    The Dems, and the good Dr. Silk, are hoping for a deus ex machina to make this stunt look better than it looks currently.

    The real issue is that Brett Kavanaugh is EXACTLY what they don’t want, a justice who interprets the law as written and applies it to facts duly ascertained.

    No more “rights” magically appearing from the “penumbra” ensuring every American the right not to be lonely.

    No more citations of the South African Constitution because an octogenarian happens to think it’s swell.

    That is all this about, period, nothing else.

  46. Yet Kavanaugh expects 17 years to bear the consequences of their youthful actions. He tried to prevent a 17 year old immigrant from obtaining an abortion. So, no, he doesn’t support women. And his outburst about the Clintons disqualifies him from ever being impartial. This is a job interview. Would you hire someone who burst into tears in front of you, angrily demanding that the job is his? Of course not.

  47. I wonder if they asked him “did you lie to us about knowing about the stolen emails that you received from Miranda – do you swear to God” if his response would be different. I doubt it. I don’t really think he follows the 8th commandment to closely.

  48. There were many times in life over the centuries, and in the 21st Century, when the truth of a matter is difficult to determine and may never be determined. Jesus said in Luke 12:2-3 that there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed. History and present life is full of unresolved injustices. Ultimately, YHWH-God-Jesus will balance the scales of justice in righteousness. Jesus came to offer salvation from sins to each individual.

  49. Hope! Is what that is.

    You gave that with your comment. Way to go. Thank you.

  50. “Period.” Yup. (Y.U.P. is acronym, by the way, for “Yippee Ki Yay, ***********r!” Bruce once told me off-the-record in fear of said non-“witnesses”.)

  51. Correction: someone here illegally asking government to pay for her abortion. Correction: he did not demand the job as his. And if I treated a good man, with a record of integrity, kindness to women and decency, as shabbily as left has treated this man, I would expect him to fight back and not take it. Every accusation he made is accurate and only members of the lynch mob feel otherwise.

  52. If this is a job interview, Tomás de Torquemada is the head of human resources.

    Would you conduct an interview in a such a way as to bring about death threats on the interviewee, his wife, and his 10 year old daughter?

    Would you drag an individual who has been working on multiple anxiety disorders for three decades plus in after she made it clear she wanted anonymity?

    The case involved the government paying for an abortion, prohibited by the Hyde Amendment.

  53. Not a court of law.. No one goes to jail..
    Facts are important to draw conclusions (why we have an FBI Investigation)

    But in Congress this is a partisan fight for a qualified person to sit on the supreme court.
    K is showing himself to be unqualified…
    He should be Bi-partisan and he is obviously Not.
    He should be an honorable man.. Guilty or innocent , he is showing himself as not.

    Sometimes the Trip to the Truth tells us more than the truth.

  54. No Metal for him.. He has shown himself not to be an honorable man.

    And honorable, Innocent man would have responded very differently..
    His response showed us a entitled, judgmental, partisan man with little faith.
    This Job, His reputation , His Status, means more to K than his God or his faith.

  55. “Not a court of law.”

    This would not happen in actual court of law.

    “No one goes to jail.”

    The Dems have already made noises in that direction.

    “Facts are important (why we have an FBI Investigation)”

    What would we investigate (Kavanaugh has had six FBI investigations to date)?

    Every witness the accuser has provided has bombed out totally.

    She cannot provide a date, a place, how she got there.

    The accused denies it and it is inconsistent with his adult behavior.

    There is no physical evidence, no semen stains, no scratches, no fingerprints, no film, no tape recordings, video, absolutely nothing at all.

    So, how would we investigate it beyond this?

    Perform Vulcan mind melds?

    “K is showing himself to be unqualified…”

    To the contrary, this has raised him in most people’s estimation.

    “He should be Bi-partisan ….”

    Are you nuts?

    “He should be an honorable man.. Guilty or innocent , he is showing himself as not.”

    The fact that he is sitting through this kangaroo court demonstrates he is an honorable man.

    The fact that he raised his 10 year old daughter to pray for his accuser demonstrates he is an honorable.

  56. And tell us, oh Barb Hyphenated, just how would an “honorable Innocent man” have responded?

    Oh, and give us an example to look out.

  57. K has shown himself not to be an honorable man.

    And honorable, Innocent man would have responded very differently..
    His response showed us a entitled, judgmental, partisan man with little faith.
    This Job, His reputation , His Status, means more to K than his God or his faith.

  58. Apparently nuking him means more to the Democrats then God, the Constitution, the facts, the well-being of Dr. Ford, or anything else.

    Richard Blumenthal shamed his Jewish faith by disobeying one of the keystones of the Ten Commandments,“Thou shall not bear false witness.” (Exodus 20:13)

    And someone should repeat the words Joseph N. Welch said to Senator McCarthy: “Have you no sense of decency …? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?” to Dianne Feinstein.

  59. You do realize what happened to Jesus, right?

    You do realize he did not have a career except to die, right?

    You do realize he did not have a wife and a 10-year-old daughter receiving death threats, right?

    In fact, just exactly what do you realize?

  60. Not my job to change your mind, just to voice my views.

  61. “Simply put, you identify with Ford; so that is who gets your vote; regardless of fact.“

    Which reminds me of the cartoon in the New Yorker decades ago. A man is sitting in a chair in the living room reading a newspaper.

    The voice balloon from his mouth reads “Honey, there is an article here by a psychiatrist who says that women take everything personally.”

    His wife, sitting on the couch, has an angry look on her face and her voice balloon reads “I do NOT!”

    Either facts mean something important, or they don’t.

    If the slogan is “Believe women”, the implication is “Don’t believe men.”

  62. LIAR.
    ILLEGAL immigrant.
    Abortion does not equal supporting women; in fact, abortion harms women.
    That being said, a judge should not “support” anyone except the constitution; but people like you don’t roll that way.
    Lastly, you would be pissed too if you we’re falsely accused.
    We’ll see if you burst into tears when the vaunted FBI investigation turns up nothing.

  63. Kavanaugh seems to have turned his life around. Can’t exactly say that for a lot of minority teenagers.

  64. If anyone is being partisan, it’s Senate democrats who have used a number of theatrics from day one to sink kavanaughs nomination; from talking over chuck grassley when introducing kavanaugh, to “indignant” walkouts, to the ultimate demonstration of underhandedness; using ford as a pawn.
    I love how the liberals who cry “fight back” and “resist” now find it abhorrent when an innocent man fights back.
    You madam, before you accuse people of being dishonorable should learn what the words intellectual honesty mean.

  65. CORRECTION 1: God ain’t no “omnipotent being [that] could just pop up a replacement son any time with less than a snap of his fingers”; whatever gave you that idea?

    CORRECTION 2: “2000+ years [haven’t been] without a peep from the sky fairy”; for you and the many, more like, but not for me and the few.

    CORRECTION 3: There’s no “sincere disagreement here about [god’s] instructions” among the born-from-above, fired-up and die-hard followers of THE Christ Jesus of the gospels, epistles and revelation.

    CORRECTION 4: “Inoculat[ing] against [religion] with reason” continues to fail big time; you’re the living proof of not just such failure, but failure as such, and I don’t care. Nor do God & Jesus, who unleashed the Palu Tsunami earlier.

  66. “CREDIBLY ACCUS[ING]”
    American Journalism at Its Best

    “The US Senate may yet confirm [Brett] Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, but he should stay off basketball courts for now when kids are around. … Credibly accused sex offenders should not coach youth basketball, girls or boys, without deeper investigation. Can’t we all agree on that?”
    – Erik Brandy, “Is Brett Kavanaugh right that he can no longer coach girls basketball?”, USA Today, September 28, 2018, deleted since.

  67. You have no compunction to distort the truth to fit your philosophical and political views.

  68. Arnzen you are the one who has no desire for the facts. You only want someone who will rule in a manner that suits your narrow extremist anti-Christian world view.

  69. If you had any sense of honor you would apologize to everyone on this forum and never return. Your views are appropriate for “Storm Front”, not RNS.

  70. Oh, stan, you say the weirdest things from your perch on top of that telephone pole.

  71. That’s why you haven’t attacked anything I posted by presenting contra-facts or pointing in errors in mine.

  72. Well, that tag describes your position perfectly, Bob.

  73. No, the girl did NOT ask for government to pay fr an abortion, only to allow her to follow her own conscience.

  74. Parker obviously has no respect for women’s judgment, rights of conscience or religious liberty.

  75. Bob, the self-appointed Grand Inquisitor, seems not to know that the girl did not ask for government to pay for the abortion, only to quit blocking her.

  76. Greetings ROR! Hope your day is going well. I’m having an awesome day! Thanks for your comments. The resurrected Jesus loves you, ROR, and offers you the awesome opportunity to come into your life when you receive him. Hope you have a great day!

  77. I don’t respect senseless death by irresponsible people. Period.

  78. We all witnessed Kavanaugh abusing and bullying a woman at the hearing (Sen. Klobuchar) in front of God, family and country. Oh well.

  79. CORRECTION 5: God ain’t no “omnipotent being [who] couldn’t [not] do his saving bit without the whole [powerfully life-changing, if] silly Jesus-on-sticks hoopla”.

    CORRECTION 6: “Jesus’ death [was and remains effectively THE] ‘sacrifice'”.

    CORRECTION 7: There never have been “sufficient grounds to reject [the] Christian [truthful, if] tall tales.”

    CORRECTION 8: God & Jesus constantly “respond in a forum.”

    CORRECTION 9: The God and Father of your Judge, Jesus, is “[very influential, if] pretty pathetic”.

    CORRECTION 10: All born-from-above, fired-up and die-hard followers of THE Christ Jesus of the gospels, epistles and revelation can never “stop being an embarrassment to humanity and to America, and get over [their powerfully life-changing, if] silly Christ superstitions”.

    Ggggooooaaaallll !!!!

    HpO 2:0 Reason Over Religion

    What a record-breaking score & still counting !!!!

  80. Ya cain’t possibly be a “WIT-ness”, coz ya got no “WIT” but a whole lotta “WIT-mess”! And dat’s the Godspell Truth.

  81. The violence and death threats seem to be something the accused & the accuser have in common. There will always be nut jobs out there in the world who latch onto something and carry it too far, folks who identify with both extreme ends of the political spectrum. It’s sad, but true.

  82. It’s funny that when you can’t actually refute the content about something, you ridicule the person with some stupid quip. It isn’t any sort of demonstration of a keen intelligence. It just makes you look petty.

  83. What content did stan communicate:

    “If you had any sense of honor you would apologize to everyone on this forum and never return. Your views are appropriate for ‘Storm Front’, not RNS.”

    beyond he doesn’t care for my views?

    Would prefer something along the lines of “Listen, Stan, you cretin, if you take a look at the details, logic, and citations in my posts you’ll find more content than YOU’ve posted in the last year?”

    A stupid quip was kind. Your taking it task makes YOU look petty.

  84. Jesus got more than death threats.

    This episode, to the detriment of both Dr. Ford and Judge Kavanaugh, was set off by Senator Dianne “Sandbag” Feinstein and some mighty underhanded shenanigans.

    She IS the extreme end of the political spectrum.

  85. You say that about her often, but I am not aware of any info that shows that she did anything of the kind. Do you have links to your source?

  86. She actually included comments about them during her testimony.

    You really are just headline-skimming, aren’t you?

  87. I’m sorry, I was imprecise, the her was Sen Feinstein, not Dr Ford

  88. American justice system is unfair, unjust and corrupt. The common man, especially the poor man has been saying this for a long time. Poor people often get arrested and sentenced for crimes they never committed.
    .
    Thousands have faced this disastrous fate. We have the world’s largest prison population. They are not all guilty of the crimes they were charged. Some are not guilty of any crime but were unfortunate to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. For these people the Media does not care.
    .
    An article may address the problem within our law enforcement or our Judicial system that makes criminals out of the innocent but those articles lack a face. Then we have Brett Kavanaugh, a man of the elite who was nominated to one of the most powerful positions in the nation. But when the same Judicial system, replete with corruption and treachery, condemns this elite of crimes he most likely did not do, it is a national issue played out by the American media week after week.
    .
    If only the average American citizen who is innocent of a crime but faces this nightmare is given such attention I would claim that America’s justice system that should make America Great is in fact Great, but it is not. Only for the powerful the forces rally around to protect. For me what makes a Democracy great is how the justice system treats the average person, not its elite.

  89. Oh, and who was going to provide it and pay for it?

  90. Catholic school girls et al, listen up: If you know alcohol and/or other drugs are to be used at a party, don’t go. If you go and alcohol and/or other drugs are present, leave immediately preferably calling 911 in the process to report underage drinking and illegal drug use.

  91. Kavanaugh with his belligerence, crazy conspiracy theories, easily detected, obviously lies about small details, obfuscation, and improbable denials is a poster boy for all that is corrupt, destructive and disturbing about the GOP in the era of Trump. Whether or not he becomes a Supreme Court Justice (and a complete corruption of our highest court in doing so), he is the clarion cry to everyone who cares about America as America to vote the current scoundrels in the GOP out of office in this election cycle and the next two to come. We need the Democrats in power, and not just to balance things out, but so that the GOP can clean its own house of the corruption that has infected it.

  92. If Merrick Garland had been given a hearing and a vote by the Senate, today’s storm could have been avoided. Also doing away with the filibuster while justified in some cases has open the door to more extreme candidates. The Republicans played raw politics and now it is coming back to bite them. A new system for finding judges is needed.
    Kavanaugh is unfit, but not for what he did in his youth. His extreme view of the law and lack of experience in life that the average American experiences.

  93. If, if, if – you have a limited memory or are not aware of the joe Biden rule implemented against GWB to prevent him from appointing a judge in the final year of his presidency.

  94. Everything you post is factually in error or outright lies.

  95. He doesn’t look petty, he is petty and grossly ignorant.

  96. Bob, you have made several accusations here. Can you document your sources of information?

  97. The lack of decency is yours and Kavanaugh’s and Trump’s, Bob.

  98. For a careful weighing of the evidence by someone who knows and likes Judge Kavanaugh, and who has no problem with his judicial philosophy, I suggest reading Benjamin Wittes’ piece in The Atlantic: https://bit.ly/2IBTzPO.

  99. There is no actual rule known as “the Biden Rule,” and as such it was never implemented against GWB to prevent him from appointing a judge in the final year of his Presidency. Biden made a speech in the Senate in June of 1992 in which he said that he thought that should a Supreme Court seat should open up over that summer before the election, he thought the President should wait until after the election to nominate someone, but the context makes it clear that he doesn’t mean it should wait until the next Administration takes over (should Bush lose), but simply wait until the election was over. He thought that this was appropriate not least because of the rancor and partisanship that was on display in the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings. As no seat actually opened up, there was no testing of whether Biden would have tried to turn his opinion expressed in his speech into action or not. Perhaps we should rethink who seems to have a limited memory (or a limited ability to google and read a factual article about Biden’s speech).

  100. CORRECTION 11: “The mythology of Christianity is utter nonsense from the get-go” – but never – say again, never THE Christ Jesus of the gospels, epistles and revelation, & His 1st apostles and disciples; and never – say again, never the ransoming Fatherly love of God through the crucifixion, burial and resurrection of His own beloved Son, Jesus, the Messiah of Israel and the savior of the rest of the world. (You just can’t tell the difference, and I don’t care; and neither do God & Jesus.)

    CORRECTION 12: “HpO is … [not] distorting what [Reason Over Religion] said.” Nope. He’s simply happily “distorting [Reason Over Religion]” by whatever means (of said gospel) necessary.

    Which is again to shout from the rooftops:

    Jesus saves !!!!

    I mean:

    Ggggooooaaaallll !!!!

    HpO 3:0 Reason Over Religion

    Record-breaking score, this! & still counting, ‘yo !!!! Go for it !!!!

  101. There may be no “official rule”, but both republicans and democrats refer to joe Biden’s comments. I would suggest that the fact that senators and the media refers to the “rule” as the Biden rules; means by default it exists. Anyway, Chuck Schumer referred to it numerous times this past summer to convince/prevent trump from making a nomination.
    I agree, it doesn’t apply to a change in administration, but to the year leading to an election.
    I still think my original comment is accurate.

  102. she was nothing but a hired gun, a mercenary, and has zero credibility.

  103. McConnell’s first wife took their children and fled KY upon his election to the Senate. All of his elections he has used Nixon’s Southern Strategy to be re-elected. Bottom line McConnell is no Christian. Nor is he a patriot as he weaseled his way out of the US Army after 3 months with a trumped up medical discharge. Therefore your citation of McConnell as “evidence” only demonstrates your lack of morals & ethics. You’re simply a bottom feeder.

  104. Thanks Stan.

    It was everything I expect from you and less.

  105. She was a hired gun who worked for free.

    Unfortunately for you hypothesis, she is a nationally recognized expert on sex crimes and prosecuting them.

    The accuser, on the other hand, is a Democratic Party operative, friends with Soros, coached to beat a lie detector, has zero corroborating witnesses, can’t remember diddly, and lied

    Other than that, she’s a peach.

  106. Greetings again, ROR! Thanks for your insightful comments and questions. I will try to answer you the best way I know how at this time. God’s original creation was perfect. That perfect creation was damaged since Eden because of disobedience against God’s Laws originally intended to keep the perfect creation perfect. Since Eden, none of us have experienced a perfect environment. We live in a sin-damaged world. To restore creation back to perfection, sin must be destroyed, eliminated forever. God’s world, His Kingdom is absolutely perfect. The historically early example of this is the brutal, bloody sacrifices of Leviticus chapters 1 & 4 & 5. An unblemished animal is drained of its life-giving blood, butchered into pieces, then burned on the altar. Unblemished represents Jesus’ sinlessness declared at his courtroom trials. Draining blood represents Jesus on the cross of condemnation. Butchering into pieces represents the severe scourging of Jesus with metal or glass-embedded whips. Burning on the altar represents the final and permanent destruction of sins. The Jewish person lays his/her hand on the sacrifice, representing receiving the sacrifice (Jesus) and placing his/her sins on the unblemished sacrifice for destruction. Since no animal can adequately represent a human, it takes an unblemished human to receive the death-penalty punishment for sins. Jesus’ resurrection finally broke the power of sins over each individual who receives Jesus into his/her life.
    God is still creating an incredibly vast number of humans of awesome variety through human births. This is why He has not yet ended pain, suffering, and tragedies in the world. As the process of human history continues, Jesus offers salvation from sins to each individual many times throughout their lives. Jesus lived over 2000 years ago. Today he works through those people who have his Spirit, the Born from Above Spirit, in their lives. Such as the many individuals who talk about Jesus. None of those people who belong to Jesus are perfect because there is yet the selfish sin nature that sometimes dominates the person. I hope this explanation clarifies a few matters. May God bless you today, ROR!

  107. All you can do is sling mud, or other more offensive material.

  108. To see the extreme end of the political spectrum you only need to look in the mirror and see yourself standing next to David Duke, Franklin Graham, Paige Patterson and the like. You would obviously like the US to become a calvinist theocracy.

  109. Stan, I am afraid the stuff you’re posting is really not worth responding to.

    If it makes you feel good to post it, bon appetit, but I won’t be responding to it.

  110. “For a careful weighing of the evidence by someone who[se] know[ing] and lik[ing of] Judge Kavanaugh, and ha[ving] no problem with his judicial philosophy [really doesn’t matter and really is no proof that Christine Blasey Ford is or isn’t telling the truth], I suggest reading”:

    (1) Natalie Andrews, Rebecca Ballhaus and Sadie Gurman, “Friend of Dr. Ford Felt Pressure to Revisit Statement: At issue is statement to committee that she knew nothing about alleged sexual assault by Brett Kavanaugh”, Wall Street Journal, October 5, 2018.

    (2) James Barrett, “Senate Judiciary Committee Statement Suggests Ford’s Legal Team Could Be in Trouble”, The Daily Wire, October 4, 2018.

    (3) Ryan Saavedra, “Witness Told FBI That Ford’s ‘Allies’ Pressured Her to Change Story, Report Says”, The Daily Wire, October 4, 2018.

    (4) Tyler Durden, “Blasey Ford’s Kavinaugh Testimony Unravels After Ex-Boyfriend Refutes Key Claims: Ford’s ex-boyfriend claims that she never told him about any type of sexual assault in almost a decade of knowing her”, ZeroHedge, October 3, 2018.

    (5) Adam Barsouk, “Ford Argued Trauma Improves Memory, But That’s Not What The Science Says”, The Federalist, September 28, 2018.

    (6) SOTT: Signs of the Times, September 27, 2018, “Highlights from Thursday’s Ford/Kavanaugh dual testimony”.

    (7) John Hawkins, “Five Big Problems with Christine Blasey Ford’s Testimony at the Kavanaugh Hearings”, PJ Media, September 27, 2018.

    (8) Robert Bridge, “Fast Times at Feinstein High: Dems ambush Brett Kavanaugh with last-minute sex assault charges”, RT, September 19-20, 2018.

  111. No. HpO. all your “CORRECTIONS” are not that at all, but are either blatant falsehoods or slippery, co​wardly dodges on your part that distort what I said. You should be ashamed of yourself, co​ward. As for scorekeeper, no, you don’t get to be the arbiter here and your scoring is thusly rejected. So, again:

    The mythology of Christianity is utter nonsense from the get-go. How is it again that your purportedly omnipotent being, your “god” couldn’t do his saving bit without the whole silly Jesus-on-sticks hoopla? And how was Jesus’ death a “sacrifice”, when an omnipotent being could just pop up a replacement son any time with less than a snap of his fingers?

    Furthermore, 2000+ years without a peep from the sky fairy of your god myths is more than sufficient grounds to reject your Christian tall tales. For that matter, why is it that your “god” can’t respond to clear up the sincere disagreement here about his instructions, or even his own existence? Your sky fairy never made it to the digital, networked world; he can’t even produce his own website, nor even respond in a forum.

    Pretty pathetic “god” that you’ve made for yourself there. Stop being an embarrassment to humanity and to America, and get over your silly Christ superstitions already.

    Reason Over Religion wins here completely : HpO is still a zero by being utterly unable to support its case and by being a pathetic CO​WARD by distorting what I said.

    Religion is a disease of the mind. Inoculate against it with reason.

  112. ScrewFacts is your own position in general, Bob, and part of why you are so severely deluded.

  113. No, Bob. The whole Jesus-sacrifice story, the foundation of the mythology of Christianity, is utter nonsense from the get-go.

  114. Speaking for yourself, there, BobMarkJackJose, re headline skimming.

  115. Stop dodging, Bob. You were caught being nasty as usual, so eat it.

  116. No, Wayne. We’ve already been through this. Read again, more carefully this time. Your Jesus story is obviously hogwash. Stop trying to sell me on your god fraud; you fail. Now, read this, and try to respond with substance for a change, to the details of what you have been challenged with about your god myth. If you respond again with your sales pitch, I’ll slam you again with these facts, so pay attention this time:

    The mythology of Christianity is utter nonsense from the get-go. How is it again that your purportedly omnipotent being, your “god” couldn’t do his saving bit without the whole silly Jesus-on-sticks hoopla? And how was Jesus’ death a “sacrifice”, when an omnipotent being could just pop up a replacement son any time with less than a snap of his fingers?

    Furthermore, 2000+ years without a peep from the sky fairy of your god myths is more than sufficient grounds to reject your Christian tall tales. For that matter, why is it that your “god” can’t respond to clear up the sincere disagreement here about his instructions, or even his own existence? Your sky fairy never made it to the digital, networked world; he can’t even produce his own website, nor even respond in a forum.

    Pretty pathetic “god” that you’ve made for yourself there. Stop being an embarrassment to humanity and to America, and get over your silly Christ superstitions already.

    Religion is a disease of the mind. Inoculate against it with reason.

  117. And that’s another … Ggggooooaaaallll !!!!

    HpO 4:0 Reason Over Religion

  118. CORRECTION 13: “[Although] the whole Christ story …is actually plainly anti-enlightenment”, “you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free” (John 8:32) – which The Enlightenment can never ever do!

    CORRECTION 14: “[Although] the enlightened world is generally leaving … the whole Christ story … behind”, the Atheist Path taken is from Light to Darkness, from Joy to Despair, and you’re the living proof of such Enlightenment.

    Checking the score now. Yup, that counts as a …

    Ggggooooaaaallll !!!!

    HpO 5:0 Reason Over Religion

  119. ROR, Hi! To continue …
    Yes, God is brutal on sins. Sins damage humans and the world around us. The damaged world continues on because God is still creating a vast variety of human beings. He is awesome! God is still speaking to people through the Gospel of Jesus Christ as it is continually proclaimed and explained. God is responding to clear up disagreements when a Christian explains parts of the Bible, sometimes in different ways for clarification.

  120. No, Wayne. We’ve already been over this with you ad nauseum, and your efforts to sell your god fraud utterly fail. Your sky fairy according to your mythbook AKA the bible is indeed brutal, and clearly has excess vengeance problems. He would also be readily convicted of human rights abuses for his threats of torture -your “god” is nothing more than a horrid, mythical monster of ancient superstitions that you should get over now. Your horror stories of Leviticus are just more examples of the sheer brutality of the “god” of your horrific Christian tall tales. As for the rest of your inane babble, no, the whole Jesus-sacrifice story, the foundation of the mythology of Christianity, is utter nonsense from the get-go. How is it again that your purportedly omnipotent being, your “god” couldn’t do his saving and sin removal bit without the whole silly Jesus-on-sticks hoopla? And how was Jesus’ death a “sacrifice”, when an omnipotent being could just pop up a replacement son any time with less than a snap of his fingers?

    Furthermore, 2000+ years without a peep from the sky fairy of your god myths is more than sufficient grounds to reject your Christian tall tales. For that matter, why is it that your “god” can’t respond to clear up the sincere disagreement here about his instructions, or even his own existence? Your sky fairy never made it to the digital, networked world; he can’t even produce his own website, nor even respond in a forum.

    Pretty pathetic “god” that you’ve made for yourself there.

    Religion is a disease of the mind. Inoculate against it with reason.

  121. CORRECTION 15: “Be free of Christianity … superstitions … [and Atheism]” – but never of THE Christ Jesus of the gospels, epistles and revelation!

    Ggggooooaaaallll !!!!

    HpO 6:0 Reason Over Religion

  122. No, ROR! You are unreasonably avoiding the issues! I will clarify the statements differently, for better understanding.

    01.YHWH-God originally created a perfect world. Perfect harmony. No sins, no troubles, no tragedies. God set rules in place to keep the perfect creations perfect.
    02.People’s choices to disobey God’s rules brought sins and damages to creation.
    03.Genealogies of Genesis 5, 11, 25, 46; 1 Chronicles 1-9, family trees, demonstrate the Bible as history.
    04.Genesis 5:1 indicates written records of these early events.
    05.The rivers and numerous cities demonstrate the historical geography of the Bible.
    06.God is still creating people of enormous variety.
    07.To restore damaged creation back to perfection, sins must be destroyed as in Lev 1-5.
    08.Animals can never replace people. Jesus of Nazareth was the perfect solution.
    09.Jesus paid the death-penalty punishment for your sins, if you receive him.
    10.Jesus’ resurrection was viewed by numerous people, including skeptics.
    11.Christians today represent Jesus Christ of 2000+ years ago.

    This should clarify matters.

  123. No, Wayne. We’ve already been over this with you ad nauseum, and your efforts to sell your god fraud utterly fail. Your quoting of that crazy mythbook AKA the bible doesn’t help your case, and in fact makes it worse. Your sky fairy according to that mythbook is indeed brutal, and clearly has excess vengeance problems. He would also be readily convicted of human rights abuses for his threats of torture -your “god” is nothing more than a horrid, mythical monster of ancient superstitions that you should get over now. Your horror stories of Leviticus are just more examples of the sheer brutality of the “god” of your horrific Christian tall tales. As for the rest of your inane babble, no, the whole Jesus-sacrifice story, the foundation of the mythology of Christianity, is utter nonsense from the get-go. How is it again that your purportedly omnipotent being, your “god” couldn’t do his saving and sin removal bit without the whole silly Jesus-on-sticks hoopla? And how was Jesus’ death a “sacrifice”, when an omnipotent being could just pop up a replacement son any time with less than a snap of his fingers?

    Furthermore, 2000+ years without a peep from the sky fairy of your god myths is more than sufficient grounds to reject your Christian tall tales (and those of that competing religion of similar horrors and brutality, Islam). For that matter, why is it that your “god” can’t respond to clear up the sincere disagreement here about his instructions, or even his own existence? Your sky fairy never made it to the digital, networked world; he can’t even produce his own website, nor even respond in a forum.

    Pretty pathetic “god” that you’ve made for yourself there.

    Religion is for the ignorant, the gullible, the co​wardly, and the
    stu​pid, and for those who would profit from them.

  124. No, Wayne. We’ve already been over this with you ad nauseum, and your efforts to sell your god fraud utterly fail. Your sky fairy according to your mythbook AKA the bible is indeed brutal, and clearly has excess vengeance problems. He would also be readily convicted of human rights abuses for his threats of torture -your “god” is nothing more than a horrid, mythical monster of ancient superstitions that you should get over now.

    Your horror stories of Leviticus are again more examples of the sheer brutality of the “god” of your horrific Christian tall tales. As for the rest of your inane babble, no, the whole Jesus-sacrifice story, the foundation of the mythology of Christianity, is utter nonsense from the get-go. How is it again that your purportedly omnipotent being, your “god” couldn’t do his saving and sin removal bit without the whole silly Jesus-on-sticks hoopla? And how was Jesus’ death a “sacrifice”, when an omnipotent being could just pop up a replacement son any time with less than a snap of his fingers?

    Furthermore, 2000+ years without a peep from the sky fairy of your god myths is more than sufficient grounds to reject your Christian tall tales. For that matter, why is it that your “god” can’t respond to clear up the sincere disagreement here about his instructions, or even his own existence? Your sky fairy never made it to the digital, networked world; he can’t even produce his own website, nor even respond in a forum.

    Pretty pathetic “god” that you’ve made for yourself there.

    Religion is a disease of the mind. Inoculate against it with reason.

  125. Thank Goodness that Justice Kavanaugh placed his trust in God and not the editors of this article! In doing so, he was obedient to God’s will and this country will have a phenomenal Supreme Court Justice for years to come!!!

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