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Best of SBTC: A Ross Douthat Guide to Fairies, UFOs ... and Church
A playful deep-dive into angels, ghosts, fairies, and why even rational people still crave the mystical.
Jonathan Woodward
November 27, 2025

Exploring the mystical, the skeptical, and the spiritually surprising with Ross Douthat.

What’s your woo level? In this episode, Katelyn and Roxy run through their most mystical instincts—angels, ghosts, manifesting, energies, astrology—and ask whether modern Christians have grown a little too allergic to spiritual experience. Then New York Times columnist and noted UFO enthusiast Ross Douthat joins to talk about the persistence of the supernatural, why he thinks religion is still the most rational bet, and the dangers of patchwork spirituality. A funny, curious, and unexpectedly grounding conversation about what might be lurking just beyond the empirical.


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