NEW YORK (RNS) By going on the offensive in the second presidential debate, Donald Trump may have righted his listing campaign enough to halt the defections that followed the shocking video released last week showing him bragging about groping women and exploiting them for sex.
But even after a weekend spent huddling in Manhattan plotting strategy, a crucial question for the Republican nominee was whether this latest outrage would finally repel conservative Christians who are key to the GOP’s hopes for recapturing the White House.
So far the verdict appears mixed.
Many of Trump’s longtime Christian supporters, especially in the party’s white evangelical base, stuck by the New York real estate mogul and reality television star.
Liberty University president Jerry Falwell Jr., an early and vocal Trump backer who had remained silent since the damning video came out on Friday, lavished praise on Trump in a tweet posted right after Sunday night’s (Oct. 9) debate at Washington University in St. Louis:
Proud of @realDonaldTrump tonight-won by a landslide! Emphasizing issues will always trump #HillaryClinton. No Republican could do better
— Jerry Falwell (@JerryFalwellJr) October 10, 2016
Falwell later expanded on those comments, telling WABC radio in New York City that the video leak “might have even been a conspiracy among the establishment Republicans who’ve known about it for weeks and who tried to time it to do the maximum damage to Donald Trump.”
He said Trump had been “contrite” about the comments, adding: “We’re all sinners, every one of us. We’ve all done things we wish we hadn’t.”
And on Monday, Focus on the Family founder and Trump supporter James Dobson, an old lion of the religious right, indicated in a statement that he would still back Trump.
“The comments Mr. Trump made 11 years ago were deplorable and I condemn them entirely,” Dobson said. “I also find Hillary Clinton’s support of partial birth abortion criminal and her opinion of evangelicals to be bigoted. There really is only one difference between the two. Mr. Trump promises to support religious liberty and the dignity of the unborn. Mrs. Clinton promises she will not.”
After the 2005 video came out, Trump initially dismissed the comments about grabbing women’s genitals and forcing himself on them as “locker room banter,” and he said Hillary Clinton’s husband, former President Bill Clinton, was “far worse.”
As the backlash against Trump mounted, he released a video later Friday night from his Trump Tower home apologizing for the comments but pivoting again to argue that Bill Clinton was worse and Hillary Clinton was complicit in covering up for her husband.
Dozens of Republican officials began withdrawing their endorsements of Trump or calling on him to withdraw, and his campaign appeared to be in freefall.
But Trump continued to insist that his trangressions were nothing compared to what a Clinton presidency would do to the country — a line he used in Sunday’s debate as he repeatedly attacked his opponent in harsh and personal terms.
If that logic made some in the GOP nervous, it resonated with many evangelical leaders.
“People of faith are voting on issues like who will protect unborn life, defend religious freedom, grow the economy, appoint conservative judges and oppose the Iran nuclear deal,” said Ralph Reed, the founder and chairman of the Faith & Freedom Coalition and a Trump supporter.
“In their hierarchy of concerns, an 11-year-old tape of a private conversation with a talk show host on a tour bus ranks very low,” Reed said, arguing the video would have “little or no impact.”
Robert Jeffress, the pastor of First Baptist Church in Dallas and a member of Trump’s Evangelical Executive Advisory Board, said the comments were “lewd, offensive, and indefensible.” But he said he would still be voting for Trump over Clinton.
“Here is a woman who lied to the families of the Benghazi victims, she destroyed 33,000 emails while under subpoena, and she’s attacked the women who attacked her husband,” Jeffress told The Daily Beast. “The fact is we’re all sinners, we all need forgiveness, and God doesn’t grade people according to their level of sin.”
Tony Perkins, another prominent evangelical adviser to Trump and leader of the conservative Family Research Council, also stood by the candidate.
“My personal support for Donald Trump has never been based upon shared values, it is based upon shared concerns about issues such as: justices on the Supreme Court that ignore the constitution, America’s continued vulnerability to Islamic terrorists and the systematic attack on religious liberty that we’ve seen in the last 7 1/2 years,” Perkins said in an email to BuzzFeed News.
Michele Bachmann, a former Republican congresswoman and outspoken evangelical who has been one of Trump’s main champions, dismissed the tape as “bad boy talk” in an interview on MSNBC on Friday night and said she would still support the GOP nominee.
Eric Metaxas, a popular Christian author and vocal Trump defender, initially made light of Trump’s comments in Twitter but then deleted that comment after sharp criticism. He then wrote that Trump’s remarks were “ugly stuff,” though he did not renounce his support for Trump.
David Brody of the Christian Broadcasting Network also sought to minimize Trump’s culpability. “This just in: Donald Trump is a flawed man!” he tweeted. “We ALL sin every single day. What if we had a ‘hot mic’ around each one of us all the time?”
On the other side, Christian leaders who have long been in the #NeverTrump camp indicated that the latest tape only reaffirmed their prophecies about Trump’s unsuitability for the Oval Office.
They also lamented the spectacle of their fellow believers defending him.
“What a disgrace. What a scandal to the gospel of Jesus Christ and to the integrity of our witness,” tweeted Russell Moore, chief policy spokesman for the Southern Baptist Convention and a staunch Trump foe.
Albert Mohler, president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, echoed that view:
I am humiliated by arguments about character I am hearing tonight from some evangelicals. Lord, help us.
— Albert Mohler (@albertmohler) October 8, 2016
And Matthew Anderson, a popular evangelical writer who blogs at Mere Orthodoxy, took Tony Perkins and others to task for their comments:
The credibility of @FRCdc was hanging by a thread already. If their President @tperkins stands by Trump through this, then it has none.
— Matthew Anderson (@mattleeanderson) October 8, 2016
Owen Strachan, director of the Center for Public Theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, wrote on Saturday that Christian men have to speak out against Trump if the church is to maintain a credible witness.
“We … boggle at how some Christians and conservatives still defend Donald Trump,” Strachan wrote. “Without telling anyone who to vote for, let me speak directly: his words are inexcusable. His conduct is reprehensible. He deserves no defense.”
Others who have backed Trump seemed to try to thread the needle — distancing themselves from a full embrace of the candidate but still signaling that Christians could, and perhaps should, support him.
Franklin Graham, who has praised Trump while not officially endorsing him, wrote on Facebook on Saturday that “the crude comments made by Donald J. Trump more than 11 years ago cannot be defended.”
“But,” he continued, “the godless progressive agenda of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton likewise cannot be defended.”
Graham said the next president’s nominations to the Supreme Court are what matter most — a rationale deployed by Christian conservatives to justify voting for Trump based on his promises to appoint justices who will rule against legalized abortion.
The most prominent in this camp was evangelical theologian Wayne Grudem, whose endorsement of Trump earlier this year provoked a split among evangelical leaders.
On Sunday afternoon, Grudem backtracked on his praise of Trump as “a morally good choice” and said that if he had known then what he knows now, he would not have written that.
He called on Trump to withdraw in favor of another nominee, but he also said that Christians must vote and the Republican Party is a far better choice than the Democrats.
A number of conservative Catholic leaders have become increasingly vocal in urging support for Trump or arguing that no faithful Catholic could vote for Democrats given the party’s strong support of abortion rights.
One of them, First Things editor R.R. Reno, signaled on Sunday he may be reconsidering how far to back Trump and had been unable to finish an op-ed column explaining why he supports the Republican.
“It’s not just that I’m jammed up with deadlines, but Trump has hit new moral lows (who thought that possible???) and I’m beginning to regret signaling any public support, as you can imagine,” he wrote in an email to The Washington Post.
But another Catholic, David Bozell, head of the conservative group ForAmerica, told The Daily Beast the audio won’t change how conservative voters view Trump.
“Bill Clinton’s history of being a sexual predator, including affairs with interns, dwarfs any locker room banter,” he said. “The clip is unfortunate, but then again, we’re not electing saints in November.”
In a press release on Saturday, the lobby group Catholic Democrats called on Trump’s Catholic Advisory Group to repudiate the candidate and resign.
“As Catholics, we have a special obligation to make our voices heard when we see any individual use a position of power to sexually exploit another,” said Steve Krueger, president of Catholic Democrats.
“Catholics are all too keenly aware of both the damage of sexual abuse on victims — sometimes life threatening — as well as the connection between sexual abuse and the abuse of power.”
In the end, what matters will be what conservative Christian voters think – and Trump could be in bigger trouble with the rank and file than he is with the leadership.
Even before this latest episode, he appeared to be significantly underperforming with white evangelicals, earning under 70 percent support from that critical bloc as opposed to the nearly 8-in-10 white evangelical voters who have gone for the Republican candidate in recent presidential election cycles.