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Claims of sex orgies, prostitution and porn videos shake Catholic Church in Italy

The Prato della Valle in Padua, Italy, on Nov. 19, 2005. Photo courtesy of Creative Commons/Julien Lagarde

ROME (RNS) Lurid accusations of priests involved in sex orgies, porn videos and prostitution have emerged from several parishes in Italy recently, sending shock waves all the way to the Vatican and challenging the high standards that Pope Francis has demanded of clergy.

Santa Maria degli Angeli church in Naples, Italy. Photo courtesy of Creative Commons/Armando Mancini

In the southern city of Naples, for example, a priest was recently suspended from the parish of Santa Maria degli Angeli over claims he held gay orgies and used internet sites to recruit potential partners whom he paid for sex.

The allegations concerning the Rev. Mario D’Orlando were brought to the attention of the diocese when an anonymous letter was sent to a Naples bishop. D’Orlando denied the charges when he was summoned by the city’s archbishop, Cardinal Crescenzio Sepe, but is now facing a formal inquiry conducted by local church officials.

“He has been removed from his position while the investigation is underway,” a spokesman for the cardinal told Religion News Service. “I have no further comment.”

In the northern city of Padua, a 48-year-old priest, the Rev. Andrea Contin, is facing defrocking as well as judicial proceedings amid accusations he had up to 30 lovers, some of whom he took to a swingers’ resort in France.

Contin was removed from his parish of San Lazzaro after three women came forward with complaints against him last December. Bishop Claudio Cipolla of Padua cut short a visit to Latin America to deal with the scandal.

“I am incredulous and pained by the accusations,” Cipolla told a news conference last month. “This is unacceptable behavior for a priest, a Christian and even for a man.”

One woman, who claims to have been Contin’s lover for more than three years, claimed the priest carried sex toys and bondage equipment, prostituted his lovers on wife-swapping websites and also invited other priests from the area to sex parties.

Bishop Claudio Cipolla of Padua, Italy. Photo courtesy of Creative Commons/Matteo Danesin

“Even if, at the end of this affair, there are no legal consequences, we have a duty by canon law to take disciplinary action,” said Cipolla.

He also revealed Pope Francis had telephoned him personally at the end of January to offer his support and urge him to stay “strong.”

Since his election the pope has taken a tough line on ethical behavior in the church though he has also recognized the reality of human imperfection and personal flaws.

In recent weeks he has spoken out many times against “temptation,” and last week he told a gathering of clergy at the Basilica of St. John Lateran in Rome that faith could not progress without the challenge of temptation.

“Temptation is always present in our lives. Moreover, without temptation you cannot progress in faith,” he said.

Alberto Melloni, professor of church history at the University of Modena and Reggio Emilia, said there is nothing unusual about scandals in the priesthood.

“There is no sin that a cleric doesn’t commit. Scandals to me seem quite normal,” he told RNS.

“And I think the illusion of stopping scandals through better selection of personnel is not very promising and has not yielded great results. ”


READ: Bishop in scandal-ridden Italian diocese resigns


Francis has frequently called for a more rigorous screening process for seminarians, and he has taken direct action when scandals erupt in Italy.

A case in point: When reports of “playboy priests” surfaced in the Italian diocese of Albenga-Imperia in the northern region of Liguria in late 2014, the pope sent a special envoy to investigate claims that clerics had posted nude photos of themselves on gay websites, sexually harassed the faithful and stolen church funds.

Two years later the pope replaced the leader of the diocese, Bishop Mario Oliveri.

Austen Ivereigh, commentator and author of “The Great Reformer: Francis and the Making of a Radical Pope,” said the pope distinguished between sinfulness and corruption and was intent on “rooting out” corruption inside the church.

“The remedy for those who succumb to temptation is forgiveness and a fresh start,” Ivereigh told RNS. “The problem is when priests turn their backs on the people, lead hidden lives and end up justifying their conduct. That’s corruption.

“And it’s only possible in the priesthood because of clericalism. That’s why the pope is so intent on rooting it out.”

(Josephine McKenna covers the Vatican for RNS)

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Josephine McKenna

Josephine McKenna has more than 30 years' experience in print, broadcast and interactive media. Based in Rome since 2007, she covered the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI and election of Pope Francis and canonizations of their predecessors. Now she covers all things Vatican for RNS.

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  • “Lurid accusations of priests involved in sex orgies, porn videos and prostitution have emerged from several parishes in Italy recently, sending shock waves all the way to the Vatican and challenging the high standards that Pope Francis has demanded of clergy.”

    What a misleading headline.

    It’s only later in the article that we learn that it wasn’t the priests engaging in prostitution. They were only hiring prostitutes.

    Everything is fine, then. Carry on!

  • and no doubt there were “pedophile parties” with the disgusting deviant reprobate homo-fag priests abusing young boys, because its no secret the catholic church is full of sexual deviants who like to have sex with animals and young boys and i hope the God has a special place in hell for all in the catholic church

  • FACE IT…ITS A VARIOUS LEVELED, MULTIFACETED , CULT.

    MARTIN LUTHER POINTED TO THE TRUTH, AND THE “ORGANIZATION” [CULT] ATTACKED HIM

  • THE VATICAN IS IN DIRECT CAHOOTS WITH THE SCUM WHO OWN THE BIS/IMF/NONFEDERAL NO RESERVE , AND THEY , THEY ARE THE SYNAGOG OF SATAN.

  • the funny hats and robes are part of their disguise. it’s time to leave the RCC & become evangelical in protest.

  • __ B U I L D I N G __ 7 __ S E V E N _____

    BUILDING 7 ….GO WAY BEYOND JUST IDENTIFYING….THEN TRY TO THINK, WHY YOU ARE JUST NOW FINDING OUT,
    WHY YOU ARE HAVING TO “HEAR” ABOUT IT FROM A MESSAGE BOARD ,
    INSTEAD OF IT BEING “REPORTED” BY THE “NEWS” “MEDIA”…..
    16 YEARS AGO.

    WAKE UP .

  • I’ve know for 50 years of the Catholic church and its goings on. From choir boys to prostitutes, from the U.S.A. to Italy there has been one big orgy and the Pope knows about it all. Shame on him.

  • The BIBLE, (remember that?) has given us the tenets BY WHICH WE SHALL RECOGNIZE AND CONDEMN THE FALSE CHURCH. Throughout the bible one thing is taught more than ANY OTHER SINGLE SUBJECT and that is the coming “apostasy” and the rise of FALSE DOCTRINE or false “christian” teaching.

    In His kindness the JESUS CHRIST through the HOLY SPIRIT gave the Apostle Paul the PROPHESY of what this “church” would do, that would allow the TRUE AND REAL HOLY GHOST FILLED (ACTS 2:38) PROPERLY BAPTIZED (Acts 2:38, Acts 4:12, Acts 10:44-46, Acts 19:1-6), FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST to recognize this false form of worship.

    The APOSTLE PAUL taught that they would “APPEAR” to be righteous people claiming not only to be Christian, but to be of high authority as well.

    2 Corinthians 11:13-15King James Version (KJV)

    13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

    14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

    15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

    Paul called them MINISTERS OF SATAN. What would a minister of Satan DO? Would he LIE TO YOU about, oh say, the NATURE of CHRIST’S MISSION ON EARTH?

    Every year the Catholic Church tells us that JESUS CHRIST CAME TO BRING PEACE ON EARTH, RIGHT? What did JESUS CHRIST REALLY SAY, about the nature of his mission, oh, look…..

    Matthew 10:34-39

    34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

    35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

    36 And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.

    37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

    38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

    39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

    TURNS OUT that JESUS CHRIST actually WARNED US NOT TO THINK THAT HE “CAME TO BRING PEACE TO THE EARTH”!!! So WHY WOULD THE CATHOLIC CHURCH LIE ABOUT THE NATURE OF CHRIST’S MISSION?????

    What else would the FALSE CHURCH that CHRIST WARNED US AGAINST, do? Well, they might enjoy CAUSING PEOPLE TO COMMIT BLASPHEMY wouldn’t they? How does the Catholic Church want you to address it’s priests, isn’t it by calling them “FATHER” and the pope , “HOLY FATHER”? Is there anywhere in the bible where Jesus tells us to call MEN the word FATHER, other than our biological parent, of course? Uh-oh, look….

    Matthew 23:9New International Version (NIV)

    9 And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father,(A) and he is in heaven.

    SO, JESUS CHRIST COMMANDED US NOT TO CALL ANYONE ON EARTH FATHER and the reasoning behind this was because it was BLASPHEMOUS to take GOD’S GLORY as our FATHER and give it to a man! SO, each and every Catholic is BLASPHEMING every time they merely ADDRESS one of their priests, ACCORDING TO JESUS CHRIST!!!! Why would they do that?

    Oh, and those SIGNS by which we would know the FALSE CHURCH? Read ‘em and weep.

    1 Timothy 4:1-4King James Version (KJV)

    4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

    2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

    3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

    4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

    Verse 1 says that they will heed the doctrine of DEVILS! Verse 2 explains why they HID THE CHILD MOLESTING PRIESTS and seemed more concerned about the “soul” of the MOLESTER than HIS VICTIMS, their CONSCIENCES were SEARED, BURNED like a frat brand that will never have FEELING again!

    BUT VERSE 3 is what we in the exposing false doctrine game, call, THE DIAMOND JUBILEE PACKAGE!

    They will FORBID TO MARRY, (Priests nuns) AND they will COMMAND THE ABSTENTION FROM MEATS, (No meat on Friday!) If you can’t see that the CATHOLIC CHURCH , based on scriptural evidence, IS THE FALSE CHURCH, who ELSE would do these things????

    1. LIE ABOUT JESUS’ MISSION ON EARTH AND ACTUALLY TOLD YOU TO BELIEVE THE ONE THING THAT JESUS CHRIST WARNED YOU NOT TO BELIEVE, that he “came to bring peace on Earth”.

    2. FORCE YOU TO GIVE THE GLORY OF GOD TO A MAN, by calling him “father” or worse, “holy father”.

    3. FORCE YOU TO OBEY THE ONLY TWO TENETS LISTED THAT MARK THE FALSE, DEMONICALLY INSPIRED “CHURCH” by FORBIDDING PRIESTS AND NUNS FROM MARRYING and COMMANDING YOU TO ABSTAIN FROM MEATS ON FRIDAY.

    Believe me, I could go on all day. I could talk about praying to Mary who Jesus did nothing other than DISRESPECT during his time on earth. Like the time she came to where he was preaching but DID NOT COME IN AND WORSHIP LIKE HIS FOLLOWERS AND…

    Matthew 12:47-50King James Version (KJV)

    47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.

    48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?

    49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

    50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

    He completely DISMISSED HER AS HIS MOTHER, even though we know that she came around , See Acts 1:14 where she is now a believer and with the disciples awaiting the indwelling of the Holy Spirit which came, in acts 2:4. Let alone what JESUS taught in the ENTIRE CHAPTER OF LUKE 16 ABOUT THE DEAD NOT BEING ABLE TO HEAR FROM THE LIVING!

    So why would you be praying to someone who at no time in LIFE OR DEATH was ever anything OTHER than a human woman? If you can’t pray to a HIGHER CREATED BEING like an Angel, which you CANNOT and WERE WARNED NOT TO DO WHY PRAY TO A HUMAN? Despite what the pope said about praying to Angels, ANGELS THEMSELVES DISAGREE, see Rev 22:8-9.

    The false Church would also LIE TO YOU about the TWO THINGS that JESUS CHRIST said were necessary for you to be SAVED! Namely WATER BAPTISM AND SPIRITUAL BAPTISM, without the successful completion of BOTH, you can neither SEE nor ENTER INTO the KINGDOM OF GOD! See John 3:1-8.

    The CATHOLIC CHURCH would have you believe that THEY can interpret what JESUS SAID TO PETER, BETTER THAN PETER COULD!! How else to you explain THEM teaching you ONE THING about BAPTISM and PETER TEACHING SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

    But WHO was JESUS TALKING TO? And what did THEY interpret His remarks to mean? And did JESUS CHRIST EVER HONOR WHAT THEY TAUGHT?????

    IN MATT 28:16-18

    16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.

    17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.

    18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

    JESUS WAS TALKING TO HIS ELEVEN DISCIPLES, not the “whole world” and not YOU or I.

    MATT 28:19-

    19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    HERE is where SATAN confused the FALSE CHURCH! Notice that the word NAME is SINGULAR. Meaning that there is ONE NAME that covers the THREE TITLES, Father Son and Holy Ghost! You don’t have to take MY word for it, TAKE PETER’S~! Once the Apostles received the HOLY GHOST (Acts 2:4), what did they do? The bible says that ALL OF THE APOSTLES, were there! When the Apostles came down onto the street STILL SPEAKING IN THE TONGUES THAT THEY HAD JUST RECEIVED, some people MOCKED THEM. Acts 2:13. The next verse TELLS US who was there!

    Acts 2:13-14King James Version (KJV)

    13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.

    14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:

    Who was PETER WITH? THE OTHER ELEVEN APOSTLES! Even though Judas was dead, Matthias had been voted in by lots in Acts 1:26, he was later removed by God in favor of PAUL,Acts 9.

    Now, Peter gives the first sermon in history with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit or Ghost, after this sermon concludes HE IS ASKED BY THE PEOPLE this question, which would be FOR EVERYONE who wanted to be saved by Jesus Christ!

    Acts 2:37-38King James Version (KJV)

    37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

    38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    PETER AND THE REST OF THE APOSTLES understood the NAME OF THE FATHER, AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY GHOST to BE the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST!!!! It doesn’t matter that you “agree” with or “understand” why, they did what they did YOU CANNOT DENY THAT THEY DID IT. Now, THE APOSTLES are at ODDS with the way the CATHOLIC CHURCH UNDERSTANDS WHAT WAS SAID TO THE APOSTLES and you MORONS listen to the CATHOLICS THAT GOD WARNED YOU AGAINST!!!

    Now here’s the kicker. The absolute PROOF that I AM RIGHT and THEY ARE WRONG. GOD, WHO MAKETH THE HEAVENS VOUCHED FOR THE TEACHING THAT THEY SHOULD BE BAPTIZED IN JESUS’ NAME!!! After PETER told them to be baptized in JESUS NAME the BIBLE says that GOD ADDED 3000 SOULS TO THE CHURCH by giving them the HOLY GHOST just like the APOSTLES HAD JUST RECEIVED, ACTS 2:41!!

    And verses 46 and 47 make it abundantly CLEAR that GOD BACKED UP THE PREACHING OF THE APOSTLES BY ADDING PEOPLE PERSONALLY TO THE CHURCH!!!

    ACTS 2:46-47

    46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

    47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the LORD added to the church daily such as should be saved.

    THE CATHOLIC CHURCH is the CHURCH you were WARNED AGAINST FOLLOWING. On the TWO MOST IMPORTANT THINGS IN A BELIEVERS LIFE, the BAPTISM OF THE WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT, THEY LIE TO YOU ABOUT WHAT EVEN IS. They CHANGED the baptism, without authority to do so, since ALL 3000 plus people in the new testament who were baptized were baptized in JESUS’ NAME. And they don’t even teach you HOW to receive the HolyGhost or that it is SOMETHING TO BE RECEIVED! Jesus would beg to differ.

    John 7:38-39King James Version (KJV)

    38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

    39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

    It is truly SATAN’S CHURCH. Repent, and be baptized EVERY ONE OF YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS AND YOU SHALL RECEIVE THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST and it comes like THIS, ACTS 2:4, JOHN 3:8, MARK 16:17

  • The Vatican was taken over in the late 1950s, the Novus Ordo/Vatican II Mass is a blasphemy, Pope Francis is a heretic. Very little of the true Catholic Church exists today.

  • What is this? More evidence that sexually deprived individuals at some point stop thinking rational? Or is it something deeper and darker?

  • Ben ………. and we expect any different accuracy and honesty in “news” headlines regarding Religious occurrences than we get in political reporting?? nope

  • You’ll never have the PC media report on the decade long pedopile scandal in the Orthodox Jewish community in Brooklyn. For example one rabbi impregnated his 16 year old daughter and she had the baby. To date over 60 jews arrested. Reporting this scandal would be anti-semitic.

  • the catholic church “priests” have been doing things like this for centuries! they are an abomination! The good people who want THE LORD, should leave and take their money with them! let it fail!

  • There are two powerful spirits in the Bible, God and Satan… Good and Evil. The Christian God Sent His Son to forgive us…

    For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. (John 3:16)

    Satan set out to deceive and renamed himself Allah and was accepted by Islam.

    Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war. (Quran: 9:5)

  • If this is all true if proved. I would not be so surprised, as at times the ideas/thinking/direction of politicians are not far off from religious figures. Both are looking for a good time on my dime.

  • The evangelicals are just as bad. We are dealing with human nature and sex is a part of that nature.

  • And as if on cue, out come the catholic haters, the francis haters, and all of the rest of them who use their religion as a weapon against others.
    I’m just wondering why it took so long? I posted by wry observation 4 hours ago.
    Thank god I’m an atheist. Uh-ohs, oh-noes. I shouldn’t have said that. Now I will be attacked for being godless, immoral scum in 5,4,3,2…

  • I am offended that the Pope has the audacity to try and tell others how to act when HIS church is the most corrupt organization in the world. When is the Catholic Church going to give away their greedy horde of wealth???

  • This is why Ratzinger was forced out.. he was trying to weed out the perverts and shysters, then the lavendar mafia stepped in and forced his resignation.

    Glad I left that church 25 years ago

  • The Catholic Church is dying a slow but certain death. Stay out of politics, let priests marry and kick out all the perverts.

  • Catholics and atheists have a lot in common. Top of the list is a sexual perversion towards children

  • You don’t get around much do you? I used to bartend, trust me, the pervs are everywhere, married or not.

    DUH

  • considering their biggest problem is HOMOSEXUALITY.

    yes I am “friggin serious”

  • “Temptation is always present in our lives. Moreover, without temptation you cannot progress in faith,”

    This quote is wonderful. I will employ this with the devout married Catholic woman who I have been pursuing for four years.

    I think this statement will open the gate to paradise.

  • When is the Catholic Church going to tear down their w and distribute their wealth to the poor?

  • Well first off it will attract heterosexual men who don’t want to live a life of celibacy. I can think of many other reasons.

  • No $hit but people who are forcefully sexually repressed have mental issues. Sex is normal. Abstinence for life is moronic BS

  • You do realize it is the conquering of the temptation that allows you to progress, not giving in to it.

  • Anyone here believe that the Pope is closer to God than an average good human being? Hehehe

  • Very very little. Much of the media, controlled by jews, swept this under the carpet for obvious reasons.

  • Creflo Dollar. Ted Haggard. eddie Long. Joel Osteen. Franklin Graham. Lonnie Latham. Pat Robertson. Jimmy Swaggart. Jim Bakker. Tullian Tchividjian. David Reynolds. Jon Peterson. Donald Trump Josh Duggar. Jack Schaap (Hammond, Indiana), David Loveless (Orlando), Grant Storms (New Orleans), Isaac Hunter (Orlando), Larry Durant (Sumter, South Carolina), Sam Hinn (Stanford, Florida), Paul Barnes (Douglas County, Colorado), Lonnie Latham (Tulsa), Earl Paulk (Decatur, Georgia), Joe Barron (near Dallas), Michael Hintz (Des Moines), Todd Bentley (Lakeland, Florida), and Tony Alamo (Arkansas), John Paulk, douglas Goodman, Jerry Pittman, Mark driscoll, David Loveless,
    All of that just off the top of my head. not one of them is a catholic. And these are just the professional Christians. The Christian-family-values-spouters who are politicans would require a megabyte or more.
    At least John Paulk had the grace to apologize.

  • And by leaving the Church you will help root out the perverts and shysters?

    I am disgusted by it too, but that is why I’ve recently come back into the fold. We can’t leave those fighting the fight against evil unsupported. There is far, far more goodness and holiness in the Church than there is this sinfulness. Jesus’ Church is worth fighting for.

    I believe Francis’ dance with Heresy is serving as a wake up call to the faithful, or so I am hoping.

    “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
    ― Edmund Burke

  • Trying to think of a way to be respectful and edifying in this comment section as required……..nope,

  • I wrote her a five page letter. Telling her of my feelings for her. And describing the things that I wanted to do to her.

    She told me that I offended her and replied that she is a “good and devout” Catholic woman.

    A year later. She admitted that she read the whole letter. She said that she was so upset that she couldn’t sleep for days.

    We live in the same neighborhood. When we run into each other, I can tell that her mind turns to me as a “man”.

    I can tell that she is smoldering in her deepest soul to experience the things which I described.

    Bottom line. She is a woman. She wants to be cherished n desired.

    She knows that I feel that way about her. BTW. I put no more pressure on her. But I can tell that the temptation is a struggle for her. She looks at me with the deepest longing.

  • The Vatican is overrun with homosexuals. That’s not even a secret. Why would they do anything about this?

  • now THERE’S a church that will attract a large crowd 😉
    That said…”there’s nothing new under the sun”…it’s been done before in churches…

  • Controlled by jews, eh?

    At least you didn’t say “controlled by THE jews.”

    Gawdamighty, I sure does luvs me the spectacle of gawd’s people attacking gawd’s other people.

  • As mentioned in the article, the priests accused of such conduct were investigated and defrocked. I fail to see how the conduct of individual priests is the fault of one person, the Pope, who did not encourage them to act in such a way.

  • I’m glad to hear you hate atheists as much as you hate catholics. If I check your pockets, will I find a copy of “The Protocols of the elders of zion?”

  • Tell me, how many homeless shelters, soup kitchens, hospices, orphanages, adoption agencies, etc. do you run and how do you cover all the expenses?

  • Contin (dude w/30 lovers) was simply ministering to the flock and he did so well that every one wound up crying out the Lord’s name….

  • Oh, goshamighty, we gay people are so powerful.

    And yet, I still can’t get a decent mimosa for Brunch. Go figure.

  • “There is far, far more goodness and holiness in the Church than there is this sinfulness. Jesus’ Church is worth fighting for.”

    not according ot the Good Christians (TM) posting so fervently below.

  • There would be no fun in that at all.
    Personally, I’m enjoying watching all of this gay hating, protestant hating, catholic hating, pope hating, modernization hating stuff play out.

  • Pimpin’ ain’t easy even if you’re Pope.
    Research pope John XII (955-964 AD) and the brothel we know as the Vatican.

    The sexual escapades of modern Catholic clergy pales in comparison to the Popes of old.

  • Even if Islam ceased to exist, Satan and his fallen angels still would, at least until Jesus’ Second Coming. There would still be Judaism and Marxism, its political offspring which results in socialism and communism when put into practice, Freemasonry, the occult, Satanism, Scientology, Atheism, Scientism, Astronomy, and every other non-Christian ideology. Furthermore, even in the complete absence of ideology, temptations would persist.

  • The Catholic Church has been infiltrated by satan. The prophetic accusation made my Father Malachi Martin are shown to be true.

  • Actually, the Catholic Church is not the most corrupt organization in the world. That distinction belongs to the US government located in the District of Corruption. Trump is only beginning to understand the scope of draining the swamp.

  • I just have to say it again.

    Gawdamighty, I sure does luvs me the spectacle of gawd’s people attacking gawd’s other people.

  • Look at the positive side: they are having consensual sex with adults. That is a step forward.
    – Nice outfit by the way.

  • This example, and the sex abuse scandals, were primarily about 1 thing: open and active homosexuals in the clergy. 80% of all recorded sex abuse was adult males vs. teen/tween boys. The frequency of occurrence of the other cases among the clergy, though even one of which is still too many and intolerable, was actually below that of the general population.

    So it’s not taking a vow of abstinence that is the problem. It has been allowing open and active homosexual men into the clergy. Had the bishops not gotten caught up in the cultural degradation starting in the 60s, and had not started accepting open and active homosexuals into the seminaries, this situation would have been largely avoided.

    http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/child-and-youth-protection/upload/The-Nature-and-Scope-of-Sexual-Abuse-of-Minors-by-Catholic-Priests-and-Deacons-in-the-United-States-1950-2002.pdf

  • The catholic church and the pope in particular all need to repent and denounce the church. Returning to Christ is the only hope for this abomination on earth. Martin Luther showed you the way.

  • Embrace Islam like the Pope. At least you will get to have fun in Islamic heaven. And on Earth you can run around murdering Kaffirs and getting welfare checks.

  • What’s new? There were virtually no venerable popes for close to 1,000 years. The Borgias weren’t even the worst. The papacy was a most sought-after position of power and wealth, and men (and some of their mothers) killed to get it. As the great historian Gibbon wrote: “The Church of Rome defended by violence the empire which she had acquired by fraud.” Salvianus, a historian and priest, wrote: “What is almost the whole body of the Church but a sink of iniquity … drunkards, adulterers, gamblers, robbers and murderers.”

    The Vatican itself, for close to two centuries, was nothing but a brothel, with nuns servicing the priests and bishops (there are several woodcut engravings showing explicit images of such.) The period was
    known as the Pornocracy, or “rule of the courtesans.”

    Just some examples of the evil popes: During the Dark Ages these “divinely guided Vicars of Christ” murdered each other at such a rate that there were 10 in just 12 years (891-903). Sergius III murdered his two predecessors. In 708 Constantine II had his eyes put out by Christopher. Leo III was attacked in the street by his nephews and killed so as to elevate their favorite to the throne. Leo V was deposed by Christopher, who in turn was removed by Sergius III. Theodora, and her daughter Marozia both had
    sons by Sergius III and both put their illegitimate sons on the papal throne (John XI and John XII).

    The first John was imprisoned and the second “turned the Palace into a brothel,” and, as the contemporary historian noted: “There was not a crime that he did not commit; murder, perjury, adultery, incest with his two sisters, bleeding his enemies to name a few.” He met his end at the hands of an outraged husband. Cardinal Francone had Pope Benedict VI strangled, and grabbed the throne as Boniface VII “a horrid monster, surpassing all other mortals in wickedness.” No worse than Boniface VIII, though. To gain the papacy he had Celestine V removed and disposed of. Clement V was tried and
    found guilty of every crime, including pederasty and murder.

    At this time there were two popes, one in Avignon and one in Rome. But at another, there were THREE – Gregory XII, Alexander V and John XIII. So corrupt was John XIII that 54 articles described him as
    “wicked, irreverent, unchaste, a liar and infected with many vices, inhuman, unjust and cruel.” As pope he “oppressed and persecuted the poor, was wholly given to carnal desires, the mirror of infamy and wickedness, practicing adultery, murder.” He gained the papacy by “violence, fraud, selling indulgences and sacraments.”

    Perhaps, of all the wicked popes, Alexander VI was the worst. By bribing 15 cardinals he secured election. Historian Guicciardini describes him: “…utmost obscenity, no shame, no religious sentiments,
    avarice, cruelty beyond the cruelty of barbarians … ” He was succeeded by his son Caesare Borgia, who gained the throne by murdering his brother John, his sister’s husband, and two cardinals. As Burchard recorded: The pope held drunken parties in the papal apartments, where courtesans “danced naked before the servants of the lord and the Vicar of Christ.” His sister, Lucretia, distributed prizes to those “who had intercourse with courtesans the most times.” (Sort of a “Vatican’s Got Talent!”)

  • Ben, it’s not that you are immoral, it is you are amoral with no source of objective principles. It’s not that you do not believe, it’s that you will believe in anything.

  • Jew haters. catholic haters. protestant haters. gay haters.
    One can only marvel at how well the Gospel of the god Who so Loved the World plays out in that world.

  • All the “good Catholic girls” I ever did meant anal only to prevent pregnancy. You might not be getting the right signals from her.

  • These events are not sending shockwaves like they used to because it occurs every year. The vatican is loaded with perverts and satanists.

  • What the hell is all this love for homosexual perversion any more?? Seems like liberal snowflakes are so introverted that they can’t find a woman, so they pick the worst thing one could imagine – despicable.

  • Trump is the swamp, hence why he’s surrounded himself with Neocons/Zionists and Goldman Sachs bankers. All it took was political pressure from democrats to make him take up a hostile stance toward Christian Russia. What did they do to deserve such scorn and hatred? Now he’s gearing up for war with North Korea and Syria, perhaps even Iran at some point. How is that all going to “make America great again”?

  • It is still sexual perversion same as pedophilia, S&M, beastiality, etc.

  • Protestants and non-Christians seem to revel in anything that hurts the Catholic Church.

  • How ridiculous to cast Francis as the savior in this lurid story! His morally lax attitudes toward sexual perversion (“Who am I to judge?”), his appointment of a lowlife gay pornographer like Monsignor Battista Ricci to run the papal household, his elevation of gay pornographer Archbishop Vincenzo Paglia to head the Pontifical Academy for Life, his reinstatement to the priesthood of the child molester Fr. Mauro “Don Mercedes” Inzoli, the list goes on and on. Francis is to blame!

  • You fail to mention that out of over a billion Muslims, only a small percentage are actually taking up arms, and even then, the ISIS militants are being supplied by none other than the US government to go into Syria and destabilize the entire region. This allows the deep state to violate Syria, a sovereign nation, by sending in American troops to keep fanning the flames. Both Christians and Muslims were living in peace before ISIS reared its ugly head. Now the Christians are being murdered and driven out of the Middle East. Who benefits?

  • These “reports” aren’t really all so different from what was going on in the “Roman Catholic” Church during the Middle Ages when the Latin Papacy was at its zenith of worldly power. It seems that Rome has learned little from its past – so sad!!

  • And yet another Christian presuming to know something that he couldn’t possibly know. Here’s all the morality I need, from 500 years before your Christ. “Treat others as you would like to be treated.”
    and yet another Christian claiming objective reality for his particular and peculiar version of god. 2/3 of the world thinks your story is nonsense. And half of the other people who claim to be good, moral Christians are busy consigning the other half to hell.

  • orgies, prostitution, and porn videos . . .

    i guess this is how the church is
    addressing the problem of declining
    membership and attendance of services.

    now if the baptists, mormons, christian scientists, etc.
    join in then the satanists and ignostics will be
    forced out of business.

  • I predict that these scandals will increase membership in the Church in Italy, and increase donations. Bear in mind that people in the pews are there for entertainment — for the look and feel, the smells, the bells, the lace garments, the music, the stained glass windows, the statues. Scandals are more entertainment. As a friend told me recently, “Where else can you go where you have friends, and you can all get together and talk about how much you detest those who run the Church?” (People love scandal — just look at all the comments here.)

    People don’t become ‘sheep’ out of conviction there is a truth; rather, they like the idea of feeling superior because they are members of the ‘one, true, and apostolic Church.’ They like to think they are special. But probably not smart enough to think through the idea that if their Catholic god is all-knowing and all-powerful and does not stop evil, then ‘He’ cannot be good. People who are not smart enough to focus for the duration of that one sentence are not likely to be concerned about truth.

  • Jesus’ Church extends well beyond the perversion of Catholicism. The better question is, when was the last time the Catholic church was a part of Jesus’ Church? I am going to go with the time before Theodosius made Catholicism/Christianity an official state religion.

  • As long as the Latin Popes think themselves infallible, they’ll always remain the primary cause of the corruption that’s been afflicting Rome since the Great Schism of 1054. As an old saying goes, “The fish rots from the head down!”

  • It’s not that you’re a judgmental prig who presumes to know all about my morals, it is that you believe you are moral without having to provide the slightest but of objective proof of it.
    It’s not that you do not believe, it’s that you will believe in anything.

  • Recent studies estimate that about 1 in 12 priests are bad, unfaithful priests. Seems to be a ratio that existed from the beginning. Judas was the first, but, alas, not the last.

  • “funny hats”? You mean the pagan dagon mitres that they wear. Nothing about their lavish clothes represents what Jesus actually said.

  • Again, what was supposed to happen? Even if they remove every single corrupt priest, more would eventually appear. One can only do so much.

  • This has nothing to do with papal infallibility, which is a very circumscribed charism and is not in any way related to immoral personal behavior.

  • Read about the Scandal of Popes. Orgies, sodomy, rape, and Murder etc. were common place. The Pope is Not the Vicar of Christ. The RCC is corrupt in Money, Sex, and Abuse. This is what happens when a false Religious Sect proclaims that they are the True and Only Church, when there actions show different!

  • the laity is not going to get rid of this perversion. It is all about the priests, by the priests and for the priests. The ‘faithful’ are nothing but an ATM for these guys. Tell me how a non-cleric is going to be able to do anything to stop the corruption.

  • How many did Jesus run? None, he went out and helped people one on one as did the apostles. Homeless shelters and the like always end up relying on government funding which leads to their corruption.

  • It would take at least an hour for me to compile a list of sites detailing everything that’s happened. Go look up PNAC and Oded Yinon, then maybe you’ll begin to understand the current situation in the Middle East.

  • Yawwwwwwwnnnnnnn.
    One more attempt to scapegoat gay people for the sins of the church.

  • Being a campaigner for lawless behavior has drastically eroded the moral high ground once held by the Vatican.

  • Some people are convinced that if all of the Muslims were eliminated, all of the strife would cease and we’d all live in peace.

  • Well, no one yet has attacked the Irish in these postings. congrats for opening up new territory.

  • Your traditionalist Catholic beliefs do not correlate with reality. What Rome says about itself and its papist cacodoxies never coincides with its actions. Rome lacks congruence and is lost within its own head. Rome’s doctrines look good on paper but what is actually experienced is something different. These reports and the endless stream of spiritual and political corruption that inflict the Vatican’s man-god religiosity is proof enough.

  • Who needs citations for the US supplying arms to ISIS in the age of Grabby McPussy, that icon of evangelical morality?

  • They really shouldn’t forbid priests and nuns from marriage. That opens some people up to to more temptation than they can handle. There will always be people who commit sexual sin / perversion, but allowing them to marry will cut down on much of it.

  • We are all born to sin. Some of us are stronger than others. Repentance begets forgiveness.

  • Are those in addition to the child porn and molestation that is rampant throughout the Church. Maybe the Pope should stop trying to interfere in the politics of Europe and US, and attacking Pres Trump, and instead start worrying about if he will be the last Pope of the Catholic Church

  • Most Catholic agencies are still funded and run by the Church. Those that do give in become secularized. The state usually begins by demanding that they remove all religious artifacts from the premises in order to receive funding.

  • Who do you think the apostle John was speaking of in Revelations 2

    To the angel of the church in Laodicea write:

    These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God’s creation. 15 I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16 So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth. 17 You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked.

  • Actually, there are plenty of pictures online of John McCain meeting with ISIS militants.

  • Meanwhile Antipope Francis cuddles up to the Chinese and calls for fewer children to be born to Catholics?

    Fire Francis, Bring Back Benedict!

  • There’s a decent Arab population in Israel right now. Meanwhile, Christians are being driven out by Israeli policies, ironically enough. There used to be tens of thousands of Christians; now there’s less than 11,000.

  • How about this one:

    To the angel of the church in Thyatira write:

    These are the words of the Son of God, whose eyes are like blazing fire and whose feet are like burnished bronze. 19 I know your deeds, your love and faith, your service and perseverance, and that you are now doing more than you did at first.

    20 Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel,
    who calls herself a prophet. By her teaching she misleads my servants
    into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols. 21 I have given her time to repent of her immorality, but she is unwilling. 22 So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. 23 I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds.

    24 Now
    I say to the rest of you in Thyatira, to you who do not hold to her
    teaching and have not learned Satan’s so-called deep secrets, ‘I will
    not impose any other burden on you, 25 except to hold on to what you have until I come.

  • Don’t forget about the skeletons of murdered children that are being dug up all over the world under nun convents.

  • By staying you condone the action. By staying you are not in a position for Change. No parishioner has the ability to root out the evil. Your job is to Proclaim that the Pope is the Vicar of Christ, and believe what they tell you. You are not allowed to question. You either agree or disagree. No True Believer in RCC may disregard/or disagree with the Catechism, and /or defy your Priest who represents God in the Confessional. Otherwise you are truly not RCC, but a lax Cafeteria Catholic which mean you truly don’t believe.
    Remember these Priest handle the Holy Host then give it to their Parishioners. They taint the body of christ.

  • We stopped going to Mass when it became obvious that the Church would never atone for what the Priests did to thousands of boys and excommunicate the Priests,
    Then with this Fascist Pope trying to instill his socialist ideology upon Catholics was confirmation I was correct

  • “And by leaving the Church you will help root out the perverts and shysters?”
    You are 100% correct. When Evil enters, you need the good people to stand up…not run away.

  • Catholic faith is for the strong, not the weak. We’ve got the martyrs and saints to prove it.

  • Catholics need to have some married ministers in the clergy.
    Not all Priests have to be Celibate. Some could be ministers of lower rank and have families.
    It’s time to drop this practice. Many of Jesus disciples (Peter for example among others) were married and had children.

    This ancient practice of Celibacy is out of date and not even founded on correct religious Christian facts.
    It needs to go.

  • No, that is what the Catholics are taught. They are taught to dislike Protestants. Catholics were also told not to go to “Other Protestant Churches”. It use to be a sin to attend any service in a Non Catholic Church. I always wonder why? I found that the Protestants knew the True Word of God, not Man Made Rules, and Dogma.

  • I grew up in the church and had a Jesuit education. This Pope is a Marxist and the church has devolved into a secular degenerate institution. I no longer am a Catholic

  • Catholics have turned a blind eye for decades to the debauchery of the church; they must support it.

  • Pope Benedict XVI was cleaning these pervert homosexual deviants out of the Church in record fashion. The homosexuals got Obama to use the CIA on him and force him out and put a puppet in.

  • There has never been any atonement for the babies killed and children molested by the Priests and Nun or that these Priests and Nun excommunicated from the Church

  • I am a Baptist and have seen the same thing, with fellow Baptist’s. When they start bashing Catholics, I tell them ” We need to focus on trying to get better, not attacking others faults.” There is plenty enough of work to do, besides bashing others. I am not alone in this. We have are own sins to work on.

  • No they didn’t turn a blind eye, they elected Pope Benedict XVI who purged over 400 of the sexual deviant homosexual child predators from the church. Then Obama forced him out.

  • What about the Marxist pope? Doe that concern the catholic church in Italy? It sure concerns me!

  • Matthew 23 calls the RCC the Pharisee. Jesus warned about the RCC.
    For they preach, but do not practice. 4 y They tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear, 1 and lay them on people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to move them with their finger. 5 t They do all their deeds z to be seen by others. For they make a their phylacteries broad and b their fringes long, 6 and they c love the place of honor at feasts and d the best seats in the synagogues 7 and d greetings in e the marketplaces and being called f rabbi 2 by others. 8 g But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are h all brothers. 3 9 i And call no man your father on earth, for j you have one Father, who is in heaven.

  • maybe because the catholic church is and always has been more about
    itself than it ever was about god or jesus? even the robes the
    priests/bishops and the pope himself wears are extravagant, a blatant
    showing of what the whole thing is really about- wealth and power.
    remember the story about jesus throwing the bankers out of the temple?
    how would he feel about the catholic church? it is and always has been a complete sham. it’s a power structure. how can you go into one of those churches and not see that, with all the money on display, or the pope getting political? too bad for him he can’t muscle presidents around like they could kings, back in the day.

  • Catholics are not taught to dislike Protestants. Y’all are the most likely to convert to the true faith.

  • What nonsense. If anything it’s Protestants and Evangelicals that go around spreading heresy against Catholics, such as that the Pope (all of them) are anti-Christs and that the Church is the whore of Babylon …and this is what’s wrong with sola scriptura – literally *anyone* can interpret the Bible however they wish, even if they’re wrong.

  • he gave in to his temptations towards little boys quite a bit. what a great guy. one who should be quoted until eternity.

  • Catholic Charities receive Millions from the Gov’t. They encourage and help Illegal Aliens. They provide lawyers for the Illegals and help with paper work.
    This organization helps with Illegals breaking the 10 Commandments –
    Thou Shall Not Lie
    Thou Shall Not Steal
    Thou Shall Not Covet Thy Neighbors Goods.

  • Why do people think that the Catholic Church is the only institution that has these issues? Really? Corruption, perversion and immorality is the province of men and knows no bounds. Shall we start with public school teachers or families?

  • Jesus founded the Catholic Church with St. Peter as the very first Pope. St. Ignatius of Antioch was ordained Bishop by St. Peter and was good friends with St. John the Apostle. Sorry, Christianity wasn’t started sometime in the 15th century.

  • that’s a pretty creepy story you have there bud. who writes things like that down on a piece of paper and gives it to someone who by the sound of it you don’t know very well? well, i guess you do. unless you’re BSing, which by the looks of your story you may be.

  • Pope John Paul said that Muslims and Catholics believe in the Same God. He praised Islam many times. He even Kissed the koran.

  • About 1000 years ago, the Catholic Church stopped being a Church of Christ and became a synagogue of Satan. Only Biblical Christianity, embodied by original Calvinism, is the path to Salvation and peace with Christ.

    “No King but King Jesus”

  • The devil infiltrated the Catholic church the moment Theodosius made Catholicism the state religion.

  • He said as quoted in the article that He will go after Corruption but Not after the Sin. That means the Orgies are O.K.

  • What wealth? They don’t really have any money. What they have is real estate, irreplaceable artwork, antiquities, etc.

  • Exodus 22:21
    You shall not wrong a sojourner or oppress him, for you were sojourners in the land of Egypt.

    Deuteronomy 10:17-19
    For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who is not partial and takes no bribe. He executes justice for the fatherless and the widow, and loves the sojourner, giving him food and clothing. Love the sojourner, therefore, for you were sojourners in the land of Egypt.

    Hebrews 13:2
    Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

  • The saints on fast track. Always a nun who suddenly looks at a picture and is Healed.
    They have to pay big $$$$ to request for a saint. Dorothy Day the Socialist is now being looked at as a Saint. Any Day, someone will pray to her and suddenly she’ll heal a Marxist Nun.

  • Mother Theresa helped people one on one. What have you done lately besides sit at your computer and criticise others?

  • We’re all children of the same God. I cannot speak for Pope John Paul, but I do not follow the Koran.

  • Over the course of history in the Western World, there is no more prevalent example of corruption and hypocrisy than the Roman Catholic Church. Apparently it remains so today.

  • http://awkwardmomentsbible.com/shocking-pastors-on-the-prowl/ While it is easy to point an accusing finger at the Catholic Church for decades of covered up child abuse, it appears to be far too easy to ignore the fact that the problem of coercive sex crimes are just as, if not more prevalent among Protestant churches in America today. Of course, we don’t hear about them in the national news because they aren’t inter-connected to a massive worldwide organization like the Vatican. However, isn’t the scariest part that these crimes go on right in front of our nose while nobody really talks about it simply because Protestant pastors don’t wear “funny robes”?

  • There are pictures of reagan with Gorbachev. doesn’t mean that Reagan was a communist.

  • Excuse me …. But the Pope has proven his church is corrupt by the priests he employs. These are representatives of the Catholic Church.
    “By your fruits shall ye know them”
    Pope needs to re-examine the whole subject of sexuality. And what is healthy and what isn’t.

  • Look for the MSM to downplay the gay angle – almost all of the abuse cases were gay priests abusing boys – and just hammer the Christian angle.

  • Catholics, protestants, jews. muslims, Mormons, SDA, JW, 7th day– all of the abrahamics.
    And we’re not even getting into the 2/3 of the world that thinks the abrahamics are all crazy.

  • You need a system to not even allow these evil doers in the first place. That’s the problem.

  • Yes indeedy. “Kill all of those people over there” has often been a Christian solution to people that annoy them.

  • I told my friend Ellen about all of these comments here.
    She said, “I gave up Catholicism for Lent.”

  • It is after all, the Roman Catholic Church, and the Pope is the Bishop of Rome. Very human with all human limitations (called Essence by Aquinas) and this particular Pope is very naive based on his limited experiences in life in South America. Pray for the Church and practice your faith as he too shall pass.

  • At least Protestants don’t have such a perverted view of sex. Clergy can marry and have a healthy outlet. This whole idea that sex is evil and women are evil temptresses has got to go. Of course if you demonize and prohibit sex – guess what they’re gonna think about 24/7?

  • Earth to mike: religion that presumes to represent morality and will use the coercive power of the state to enforce it on others who don’t share those beliefs, no matter what the cost to them, is the problem.

  • I help others on a regular basis. If you actually read my post nowhere did I criticize anyone. I was just making a legitimate point.

  • http://www.catholiceducation.org/en/culture/catholic-contributions/dorothy-day-saint-and-troublemaker.html

    What got her in the most hot water was her sharp social criticism. She pointed out that patriotism was a more powerful force in most people’s lives than the Gospel. While she hated every kind tyranny and never ceased to be thankful for America having taken in so many people fleeing poverty and repression, she was fierce in her criticism of capitalism and consumerism. She said America had a tendency to treat people like Kleenex; use them, and throw them away. Our problems stem, she said, from our acceptance of this filthy, rotten system.

    She had no kind words for war or anything having to do with it war. It was simply murder wrapped in flags. She was convinced Jesus had disarmed all his followers when he said to Peter, “Put away your sword, for whoever lives by the sword will perish by the sword.” A way of life based on love, including love of enemies, left no room for killing. You couldn’t practice the works of mercy with one hand and the works of vengeance with the other.

    It was chiefly through the writings of Saint Therese of Lisieux that Dorothy had been drawn to the Little Way. No term, in her mind, better described the ideal Christian way of doing things. As she once put it, “Paper work, cleaning the house, dealing with the innumerable visitors
    who come all through the day, answering the phone, keeping patience and acting intelligently — which is to find some meaning in all that happens— these things, too, are the works of peace and often seem like a very little way.”

  • You forgot the part where we homosexuals cornered the tin market to prevent you people form getting your tinfoil hats in working order..

  • Given your willingness to slander others with falsehood, it doesn’t sound like you are even a Christian.
    Oh, wait. You are.

  • How does that explain that there is just as much sexual perversion, porn addiction and debauchery in the Protestant clergy who are married as the Catholic priests who are not? Or didn’t you know that?

  • Sorry, but all through Catholic School and CCD we were taught that the Catholic Church is the One True and Holy Church. We were told it was a sin to go to non Catholic Services. That they weren’t a real church. I went to Catholic School for 16yrs. We were told those who do not go to the Roman Catholic Church, their souls are lost.

  • Total rubbish. There is no central control, world wide, in the protestant church as there is the Roman Catholic Church, and you know it.

  • Of course they do . . . You can see by how Catholics respond to Non Catholics. It is with Disdain.

  • Let’s be realistic, shall we? McCain meets with ISIS leaders just before they attempt to take out Assad. That’s quite the coincidence. Further, he just went to Syria again, this time as the government was mulling sending more American troops and equipment to the region.

  • Nope. I prefer to call it accuracy.
    Witches, gay people, Jews, Protestants, Catholics, Muslims, heretics and “heretics”. .

  • Yes, that had been Church doctrine for centuries, but that still doesn’t mean that Catholics hate others.

  • thank heavens that protestants never killed witches, Catholics, jews, muslims, gay people, and heretics. Very saintly of them.

  • It was always Christianity. The Roman Catholic Church corrupted the word “Catholic”. Catholic means Universal. There were Syrian Catholics, Coptic Christian, which means they were part of the Christian Universal Church of Christ.

  • Oh, as opposed to the virulent hostility on display in the comments section here and on every other article that paints the Church in a negative light? Protestants love to take swipes. Just look at the top comments.

  • “Tell me how a non-cleric is going to be able to do anything to stop the corruption.”

    Maybe start by getting up in his face, eh? He’s some guy in a collar, not Superman.

  • The RCC puts itself into a negative light. By Professing that it is the Only One True Church, and the Pope is the Vicar of Christ, is putting this organization into one proclaiming it is of ultimate authority and closest to Christ. If an Organization Claims these as True, along with the Profession of the Ultimate Church, It must Live Up to being the Ultimate Superior Church – No Corruption or Sin.

  • Again, where are you getting this? The Catholic Church is the only Church that can trace its lineage back directly to Christ. It did not “corrupt” the word Catholic; Jesus did not deceive His own followers when He gave St. Peter the keys to His kingdom. It was the Catholic Church that assembled all 73 books of the Bible and preserved Christianity through tribulations and persecutions throughout the centuries, including the fall of the Roman Empire.

  • This pope is a hopelessly political Leftists who is more concerned with the “evils’ of populism rather than promoting the Church Doctrines – or cleaning up a very vile corruption within its own clergy. This self-inflicted wound is of its own making and by rather not concentrating on cleaning that wound and promoting the Church’s doctrine, this pope wants the limelight to promote his Liberation Theology – and
    Catholic officials wonder why just 40% of Catholics are sitting in the pews at the Sunday Mass. Sad.

  • The Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ Himself. If you object to this, you can take it up with Him.

  • As a Catholic I have never heard a word or a disparaging expression against other religions or other Christian organizations. There may be those harboring resentments, but that is not the order of the Church. I have, however, experienced disparaging anti-Catholics remarks in some protestant churches, but even so, that is not an official agenda of the Baptist, Lutheran, Presbyterian churches. Individuals do not set the trend of any church

  • Unlike Benedict, Bergoglio has been VERY lenient and forgiving of priests who wantonly break their vows of chastity. Especially pedophiles. Satan has apparently ascended to the papacy again.
    “The fort is betrayed even of them that should have defended it.” ——— St. John Fisher, Bishop and Martyr

  • But pedophiles get a pass. This catholic is disgusted with this pope. To big to fail, hardly.

  • Nice try Kim, you project what you want to believe, rather than the facts. So no, there are not just as many protestant problems, BECAUSE of the Theology that is practiced. The Catholic Theology and it’s demand for celebacy for it’s priests is a corruption of the human experience, which is designed to enjoy relationships with the opposite sex. When that is denied, Catholic Priests turn to other males for outlet. That verdict was ruled on long ago. Some like you just forgot or it had it whitewashed from your memory.

  • You can’t be a celibate adult and not be off a bit. The apostles were married, Jesus himself had other plans, that didn’t include leaving a family behind.

    The problem is, if you allow married priests, you create a culture of families and normal family units in the clergy. Gays in general are uncomfortable around normal families, it makes them feel even more abnormal, and they’re reminded of what normal looks like, so this will never happen.

  • Jesus founded the Universal Christian Church. Read Paul and Timothy. You’ll see what was required for the Overseer.

  • I’m an evangelical Christian and find Catholic bashing among fellow evangelicals extremely rare, but on the rare occasion I have heard it it’s but old uniformed folks who were raised during periods from yesteryear.

  • Any misbehavior by the church is absolutely dwarfed by that of the DNC and the MSM !

  • The Catholic Church doesn’t want marriage because they do not want to support a family. It is economic and not because sex is evil.

  • Evil entered in many centuries ago. The Roman Catholic Church is in no way the “Church” Christ built and is building. The RCC has high-jacked that nomenclature and is being manifested of it’s true image. There are many true believers in the RCC, I don’t doubt, and many decide to stay, but others leave. And there have been a few Popes who had a love for God and wanted to try to reform the RCC, but when something is rotten to the core the only solution is a complete razing, and that is what Christ Jesus will do one day before He returns. As Barzun said; “the spirit is willing but the culture is strong”.

  • My Catholic childhood friend used to tell me that I was going to hell because I was a Protestant. We were 5. He must of heard it at home.

  • As despicable as this is……as a non-Catholic I have to say people seem to have this impression that scandals only happen in the Catholic Church and not in any other institutions. The fact is you look at the history of any structure, institution, religious or secular and you’ll find scandal taking place. Look at the American government and the sex scandals coming out of the White House and the sexual abuse cases we here about so often in the U.S military. Look at the United Nations and the sexual abuse scandals that have taken place globally when it comes to child abuse and peacekeepers in places like Central Africa, Burma, Bosnia, etc.

    To use an analogy what makes news are the 100 planes that fly of the airport safely, but the one plane that crashes. So our news media is built off stories of scandal. So in the context of the Church what’s gonna make more news, a priest in Italy engaging in orgies like this, or a nun in east Asia tackling human trafficking and poverty in her region? The former.

  • You maybe right on all counts except one – Trump is not the swamp. That’s why he got elected.

  • All religion is delusional. Many religions are relatively harmless. Catholicism has always been one of the very destructive ones, like Islam. No religion should ever be involved in politics, and that is just one reason why the Pope should be ignored. The Pope has nothing positive to offer the world but more delusion. If Catholicism went out of business tomorrow, and it is a business, the world would be better off. *Just say no to religion* would be a good motto for a better world.

  • If Christians hate each other, how will we ever get along with Muslims. Religion is supposed to be a good thing but somehow it has become a force that makes us hate and want to kill each other. Any one group that thinks that they have the answer as to what happens after death is arrogant and full of crap.

  • You’re kidding right? You’re saying that both faiths are the same? How come I don’t hear about such widespread sex crimes in the protestant church?

  • Jesus didn’t like religion either, but I have the feeling you have said “no” to him as well.

  • Back in the day, the Puritans were not cool with freedom of religion. Thank god liberalism is the idea that evil deserves a fair chance. The freedom loving Quakers taught the Puritans a lesson by walking up and down the aisles undressed. Mass is at 9 am. If you want to coexist, just call and I’ll give you directions.

    After I stick my tea bags so far up your liberal mash potatoes your mouth stars as the family guy’s chin, we can go to the Church festival and share a Pelosi – a warm Italian dessert stuffed with pork and topped with bacon. Every year there is a Church gun sale.

    Philo, of the Alexandria Israelites, kicked a touchdown Buddha by reconciling Greek and Roman philosophy with God. The proverbs game was on the line. What would Caligula do?

    Thanks to the Flavians, one could make the argument that Jesus was a Roman creation that did such a good job of dividing the Jews that the Roman Empire was very peaceful from 70AD to 180AD. Titus called himself the son of God and God was his Ronald Reagan like dad. Emperor Vespasian is famous for saying “Damn it! I’m becoming a God!”. Titus Flavius Josephus wrote the History of the Roman Jewish War which matched the first three Gospels.

    Do you nestle by my bar stool?
    Making me so calm within
    Have you touch me with your warmness
    or have I wet myself again?

    Are you drinkin’ with me Jesus?
    I can’t see you very clear
    if you’re drinkin’ with me Jesus
    would you buy a friend a beer?

    But does your head pound with the message
    as hung over you do rise?
    Tell me what does heaven look like, Jesus?
    Seen through holy bloodshot eyes

    Or should we take a taxi home Jesus
    But can we simply hoof it from here?
    I know you can walk on the water
    But can you walk on this much beer?

    Are you drinkin’ with me Jesus?
    I can’t see you very clear
    if you’re drinkin’ with me Jesus
    would you buy a friend a beer?

    Are you drinkin’ with me Jesus?
    I can’t see you very clear
    if you’re drinkin’ with me Jesus
    would you buy a friend a beer?

    God Damn it Jesus! Buy me a fricking beer!

    Back in the day, the evil doers were doing so well the Romans round up all the
    Talmuds. Fast forward 2000 years and we’re sitting on the largest debt and
    governmental bubble in 6000 years – as good as it get for the first, second, or
    third coming. Jesus Christ, Catholic Churches are spawning Pokémon and Pope Francis likened ISIS to Jesus. Islam was an Augustinian screw up!

  • I’ve known the woman for 9 years.

    You have your head up your rear end.

    Men have been pursuing women since the creation.

    If you could see her reaction when she sees me, well with your 15th century mind set, you would put her on the rack.

    While I would celebrate her beauty.

  • God save the Queen and the central banking nobility.George Soros was eating over. A string got caught in his teeth and out popped Camilla’s prince Charles.
    The tri-laterals are painting Obama’s hair technocratic grey. By this time next year, he’ll be fully automated. We’re scheduled to be obsolete by 2040. If the drapes don’t match the shag carpet, does the carpet turn technocratic grey?

    They’re putting up like a thousand Ba’al arches here, there, everywhere! “I’m coming out for the whole world to see” and the next thing “I’M GOING TO SUCK ON YOU LIKE A BUCKET OF TICKS FOR ETERNITY!”.

    The McGuffin is spiking humanity. The setup hero is Barack. The villain is humanity. Hillary is the anti-Christ.

    You’re gonna die of Lyme disease in denial unless you untie your tubes you tied in your commie core teens and join Team America. Hillary was last in line for brains. The ones she’s got are rotten and insane.

    On top of the Nazi pyramid, it’s a pedo cult. Hillary shattered the glass ceiling and next time Obama sits on your face, you’re going to find out King Obola doesn’t love you.

    True Roman Sun God based Christianity is the best load of crap.

  • I consider myself a Catholic yet in my years in the US have attended service – more from curiosity and out of respect for Protestant friends and others of different denominations. If anything the overall experience together gave me a sense of the need to read the Bible more often. The Catholic Mass is still the greatest portal between man and heaven and I felt my Catholic faith was stronger for the experience. I don’t accept I sinned at all as Jesus loves everyone. That is his message. I do believe the Catholic Church will be stronger for allowing marriage again. In these turbulent times in politics there is a need for a Catholic message to counter the pervasive evil of utterly immoral and unfortunately depraved politicians. An unexpurgated Talmud is the greatest evil in the world in my humble and honest opinion.

  • It’s good that Pappa is spending his time joining forces with the same causes that most of the young millennials associate with and not wasting time being prudish.

    The Catholic church will need much money for healing the earth from GloBull Warming Change now that the old baby boomers are retiring, they and other more social savvy global elite governments will need the extra income and work from the world’s millennials, to fund fixing the destruction.

    I believe that the young energetic millennials should work a second job to pay for these noble efforts where all of their income is confiscated contributed to the global elite government and the Vatican helps the world heal from the destruction of GloBull Warming Change.

    It’s a huge world and it could take many hundreds of trillions to fix. So whatever level of slavery volunteerism we can get from these young workers, who’s hearts bleed for our earth, must be mandated and fast, as time is running out.

    ALL sources of incomes, from the largest internet giants in the Silicon Valley, like Zuckerberg the richest CEO, who should have 99% of ALL his profits contributed to this wonderful cause, on down to the lowest $100K per year coder, to the coffee house baristas – ALL must help to heal this earth.

    And Pappa can help us with that and more trans gender bathrooms. God our Father would want that.

    This is the something we can do. This is the something we MUST do and we MUST enact laws NOW to start the healing and repair of this earth that we are so rapidly destroying everyday.

    Please act immediately and call or write your representatives and demand global laws be written and put into effect – NOW!! ALL citizens of the earth must be taxed and their descendants and their descendants after them.

  • The Catholic Church is a nest of corruption from the head down.They preach the social gospel and not the truth from the Bible.

  • The Kingdom of God is like a dragnet which contains all manner of fish and foul.

  • I will never leave the Catholic Church!
    I will pray, receive the Eucharist and do good works no matter what happens!
    I will pray for the defeat of evil until I draw my last breath!
    THIS IS WHAT CHRIST WANTS US FAITHFULL TO DO!
    “THE GATES OF HELL WILL NEVER PREVAIL” against our Lords Church!

  • why don’t we stop sending money to the Vatican??? Seems we are just helping the problems get biggerand they get greedier all the time. Ratzinger was forced out by Obama and his minions. Remember his speech at Notre Dame?? Keep the money here to build churches and fund our own missionaires.

  • Pretty Simple….
    ” All have fallen short short of the glory of God..

    ” The wages of sin (all of them) is death”

    “For the love of Christ controls us”…

    ” He without sin cast the first stone”

    We should pray for all and ourselves…
    Be you Roman Catholic, Prodestant or of any faith rooted in the Judeo-Christian beliefs with Christ as the door to Grace and salvation. Dispense with your human responses and look to your Lord and Savior for guidance and strength.. And forgiveness.
    Look to him as an example of the love of your fellow man…And the true love of God.

    This applies to me too

    It’s a terrible thing that the article talks about. Let’s all pray for all involved and ourselves that we don’t become weak to the temptations of this world and hold to our faith in Christ.

  • Just plenty of powerful, wealthy denominations that frequently work together to try to control everyone not them.

  • And that’s why the Lord took a remnant out of Europe centuries ago to create a country with a Constitution that would allow the religious freedom mankind deserves. But now the American church is in trouble with Satan having had a few centuries to tempt them, just as Satan had tempted and turned Europe before them. Unless there’s a restoration of the Church, what’s next????

  • Jesus’ hand-pi’ked Apostles had a thief who hanged himself.

    Priests and Bishops are human beings, who have every ability to corrupt themselves.

  • It’s not slander….it’s the facts. Read the article and check out what the Pope is embracing. Sounds like secularism to me. The Pope seems to think the populists in
    democratic countries are a greater evil than the killing of gays, adulterers and infidels
    in Muslim countries. Hmmmm. I don’t see the Pope tearing down the wall around the Vatican.

  • We certainly define Christianity exactly the same, just not in the sense YOU mean it.

  • The Catholic church isn’t a democracy. He cannot be recalled in an election. Good luck.

  • I asked that question once. The reply made me change my mind. Where does one “get rid of literally priceless items”? Most of the Church’s wealth is in the form of relics and items that have so much intrinsic and religious value that no-one could buy them to convert to cash. As you are probably aware the Church does however spend a fortune on charity and helping the poor. But even that is not enough to solve all the worlds ills.

  • Is it God or your fellow man you have lost faith in?
    I hope you can find your faith in God.

  • And everyone of those men molesting children are just that– catholic priests. Everyone of them with a calling from god to be a priest.

    No they were pedophile priests molesting boys. But sure blame gay people. It’s very christian of you,

    And the reason they do is because that is where they have access– That and the fact they’re pedophiles.

  • There is no such place as Hell, or Heaven apart from the natural world in the here and now. We can certainly create heaven and hell right here on earth

  • Ratzinger was forced out. I wonder why. And Francis never shuts up his bogis, unholy far left political views! Today he said Populism is wrong/evil lol. I mean seriously? WHO IN THIS WORLD IS MORE OBVIOUSLY A NWO WHORE THAN FRANCIS?

    Merkel maybe, but then Francis comes in 2nd place. He’s a witch, brothers & sisters, he’s probably a muslim too.

  • Your church is corrupt to the core. You may be a good person, I do not know, but I know stench when I smell it and your church is infested with it.

  • I agree. I’ve never been so contented having studied evolution (which makes more sense to me than scripture ever did).I don’t judge people as much, and I simply love being free of the burden which is religion.

  • I believe in man.And I believe and have compassion for myself
    .now that I’ve unburden myself from religion.

  • I grew up Catholic. Thank God I am free and now have a personal relationship with Jesus which is really what Jesus intended…not to rely on a Pope or priest for your salvation. And making a God out of Mary and worshipping her is so WRONG! God made Mary…not vice versa!

  • Yes, they did turn a blind eye. I guess you missed the part where I said decades. You do know what a decade is, don’t you? You can do your own research, but pay close attention to Australia all the was back to the 1950’s and in the US predominantly from the 1960’s to 1980’s before it really started to become public. A lot of live destroyed and not much done (big picture) even after it became public.

  • Leaving the Church because of clerical correction is like refusing medical care because doctors treat sick people.

  • I am a Baptist, but thank you for your concern. The problem with the Catholics is their Upper Leadership. A house cleaning, is past due. A Catholic Revolution needs to be carried out, by the Catholics, sitting in the Pews. It is the only way, to take their Church back.

  • Roman Catholics aren’t Christians. Their doctrine is contrary to the Bible and Jesus Christ.

  • Really? I thought that Jesus founded His Church for the benefit of sinners, not the righteous.

  • Truly spiritual people don:t need the evil that is “religion” to follow The Creator and live a good life. “Religion” a man made institution designed for power and control over the “flocks” of sheep.

  • Marrabella, if you think that God intended sex merely as an “outlet” then it is your own view of sex and marriage that are perverted.

    The Catholic Church teaches that marriage and sex are very good, because God made them. The Church does not “demonize” sex, but it does recognize that sex outside of marriage is sinful.

    No Catholic men are forced into celibate lives. Every man who accepts celibacy in the ordained priesthood does so willingly and with full consent.

  • Katherine, you read an encyclical from 1891? Interesting! Have you read any others? Why that one in particular?

    You seem to be willing to consider the evidence. I encourage you to read the Catechism of the Catholic Church, which is available free of charge online.

  • My Church, is down the street. What do you really know about my Church? Have you ever been there? All I can tell you is my Pastor preaches from God’s Word. How is that Demonic? You think my Pastor is a Freemason? He is going to get a good chuckle, at that one.
    What is your religion, by the way?

  • El Chulo, we’re going to have to stand before Jesus someday and give an accounting for any hateful words we spoke about others. Pope Francis claims to be a sinner who trusts Christ for his salvation. And you call him a “bag of feces-filled trash”.

    You tell me… Do those words sound more like the words of a follower of Christ, or of Satan?

  • We knew these times would be upon us. Jesus told us so. He also told us ‘be not afraid’.
    Matt: 16:18
    “And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”

  • If you are right, then Jesus was a liar (which is absolutely false) Matthew 16:18. Christ promises that the gates of hell shall not prevail against His church. If what you are saying is true, Christ was wrong.

  • Katherine, you obviously have not studied Catholicism as well as you claimed.

    “The Bible is the only book that matters”? Does the Bible make such a claim?

    You reject “traditions”? What do you make of 2 Thessalonians 2:15? “So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter.”

  • HAHAHAHA!
    No stained glass at my Church. No statues. Just an empty Cross. You obviously do not have a clue about my House of Worship.

  • A house cleaning would be no more effective than it would in Washington. “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely”. These people have assumed such haughty pillars that they believe they are the god that we should worship.

  • I did not say it would be easy. Evil fights to the Death.
    Fight or flight, are the only two options.

  • Dear notoriousBLOG, please name an institution that does not suffer corruption. Jesus warned of corruption Matthew 7:15 and Acts 20:29. If you are Christian seeking Christ’s Church, take heart in Matthew 16:18.

  • The Church is not a building or denomination; it is anywhere that one or more Saints gathers to worship Christ Jesus. Being a Catholic or Protestant is not important, being born again is.

    Jesus answered & said unto him, “Verily,verily I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” John 3:3 KJV

    “Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away. Behold, the new has come!” 2 Cor. 5:17

    Read Romans 1:21-32. It is transpiring before our eyes. God Bless.

  • This article cites an old story that this website has replayed at least twice…there is nothing new about sinners such as these…this one occurred in the Catholic Church and unfortunately our Protestant brothers and sisters suffer from the same maladies

  • “And by leaving the Church you will help root out the perverts and shysters?”

    The guy was, what… 90? There’s only so much one man can do when he’s wearing Depends.

  • It’s not my church. It’s Jesus’ Church. He founded it. And even before His Resurrection its membership contained ignorant, violent, lying, thieving, ambitious sinners. And those were just the apostles.

    So you want to reject Jesus because His Church contains sinners?

  • As a Catholic, may I suggest that the Pope clean-up his own backyard and stop with the politics!

  • That’s not “His Church” The RCC practices abominations. Quit trying to justify their incleanness with scripture. The gates of hell will not prevail against His Church.

  • Yes it’s called Catholic bashing. A sport enjoyed by mostly miserable, joyless and hollow souled.

  • It wasn’t the church that exposed and rooted out the Pedophiles/Homosexuals. It was reporters. The church moved the offenders from place to place, saying nothing.

  • It stands to reason that a practice which requires celibacy will select for people for whom that practice is not as challenging as for those who have more “normal” sexual impulses. For those called to be parents, celibacy precludes becoming priests. For those with homosexual inclinations the sacrifice is less, since parenthood is already a dubious proposition. The problem is that under such circumstances, one can rationally expect a greater proportion of those with homosexual tendencies than heterosexual tendencies to find priesthood easier to accommodate. So, one should rationally expect it easier to be a homosexual priest than to be a heterosexual priest. Combine that proposition with the “trust” faithful but naive believers place in the priesthood and the proven practice of homosexuals to seek places to “groom” innocent victims, and you have a disaster in the making. The Catholic Church needs to abandon the requirement of celibacy and allow normal men to be priests.

  • Sean, congratulations on your return to Christ’s Church. Church scandal is one of the devil’s “greatest” triumphs as it drives many well-intentioned people further and further from the truth.

  • Not rejecting Jesus, I’m rejecting the false prophets of your church who willingly translate the word of God to justify their evil lusts and sins.
    The Catholic Church Is the foundation for the New World Order and the globalization of the developed nations. This is driven by a wanton lust for more power and gold. It is evil to the core and should be destroyed.

  • No. I just said it was down the street. I also have the key to my Church, being Custodian and all. I can take you in there and you can search every nook and cranny, even the Pastor’s Study ( Office), is you wish. Remember though, I can only vouch for my Church.

  • Take a second look at the Church before taking comfort in another sensationalized scandal story such as this one. I am not sure where you went to 25 years ago, but ask yourself honestly why you left the Catholic Church and allow someone well-versed in Church teachings to answer your questions. The New Testament is littered with wolves seeking to self-profit and destroy Christ’s Church.

  • Its how Obama got the current communist azz wipe pope in, cia info forced out previous pope

  • Dear Katherine, I will pray for you that you are able to hear and to understand…in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.

  • None of them are Catholic because the Pope won’t allow any priests to set up shop outside the Church. The Vatican won’t allow competition. There was that nun that was on TV but that’s not the same. The Vatican wants all money to flow through Rome. That’s the main reason priests aren’t allow to marry. Their family would drain off money through inheritance and that would be less for Rome. Follow the money as they say.

  • Look at this, for starters.

    Catholic Church Admits Paying Sex Abuse Hush Money · Guardian …
    guardianlv.com/…/catholic-church-finally-admits-paying-sex-abuse-hush-money-for-…Dec 10, 2013 – This admission by the church marks the very first time the organization has ever publicly admitted to paying out hush money to sex abuse …

  • Read, “Good bye, Good Men”, by Michael S. Rose, detailing the decades-long effort to infiltrate and take over the seminary by homosexual pederasts and other non-believers, see also: “Operation Outstretched Hand,” as described by Bella Dodd.

    Then the rampant corruption and homosexuality will suddenly make sense. It didn’t just happen.

    It was planned.

  • This is evil but it is folly to believe that Catholic doctrine has anything to do with the behavior of wicked and corrupt men. Sin is pervasive in every endeavor of humanity more today than ever before because all men are sinners and men and women who attempt to serve God are the prime targets of the evil one .

    It is folly and contempt for the truth of the Gospel and the Words of Christ to claim that the Church which preserved the faith through the fall of Rome, the Carolingians collapse, the Black Death, Huns, Mongols, Tatars, Muslims, Vikings, Goth, the Reich and the Soviets but most especially the faithless failures of its adherents is wrong for the acts of anyone or everyone in the Church.

  • is the Catholic church the only church that requires priests and nuns to be celibate? maybe let priests marry and you won’t have so many gay priests who end up not able to control their sexual desires.

  • Wickedness always appears planned when it is merely collusion of the wicked for very short term gain and advancement. Pride and Malice covers a host of disagreements.

  • Good question marrabella. Answer; because, usually, the true believers, in a true believing church remove the offense and practice Matthew 18 (church discipline) when they find out about it. More than not the RCC cover up the sins because they have a hard time getting men who want to be priests.

    17 “For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?” 1 Peter 4:17

  • Attempt to forbid people from the strongest urge that humans posses … and the outcome is surely predictable.

  • The percentage of homosexuals in the Married Priesthood of the Anglicans/Episcopal Communion is actually considerably higher than the Catholic Priesthood which is conservatively estimated to be ~2 to 4%.

  • Seems to me, once they turn to sin, they are no longer Christians, but apostate sinners and, at the very least, hypocrites.

    Jesus himself drove such from the Temple. Thus shall you purge the evil out from among you.

    And yet, he did not turn his back on the Church.

  • He didn’t mention doctrine. You did. I believe (along with everyone else who read the comment) that Kevin is describing behavior.

  • well, gay or straight, the the Married Priesthood of the Anglicans/Episcopal Communion does not seem to have these scandals. and two of the three incidents mentioned in this article were gay priests. just anecdotal as i don’t have the numbers even if they are attainable as to the percentage of these both illegal and scandalous actions were by gay priests.

  • This Pope is a pathetic liberal and I don’t like him. He also mistreated Pres. Trump.

  • It’s not that there are sinners there. We are all sinners saved by grace. The fact is the RCC covers up the sins and tries to hide the offenders. I believe the main reason is the RCC has great difficulty finding men who want to live the life of a RCC priest. Even Jesus said not many are called to be eunichs. So there is a problem here with normal red-blooded males sho are told they must remain abstinent. Common sense tells you that’s a recipe for failure.

  • You got that backwards. Ratzinger was forced out because of sexual scandals. He was rumored to be a pedophile. There hasn’t been a resignation by a Pope in 600 years before Ratzinger did it.

  • The Vatican City, City of London, Washington DC are simply the Modern Day Roman empire. The cabal controlling us spiritually, financially, and militarily. Roman Catholic sun worship and perversion go hand in hand. The article fails to mention how long this perfidy went on. What better way for Papa to dispose of his adversaries? Righteous or politically expedient?

  • You clearly haven’t been paying attention. The reason you hear about misconduct in the Catholic Church in the most lurid details is because it still maintains the perennial Christian Teaching of Sexual morality and as such many hate it for this alone and it possesses wealth that can be expropriated. The British Crown/ State owns all of the fungible assets of the C.of E. AAnglican/Episcopal Churches.

  • Not murdered, except by the neglect and poverty that was common in all orphanages and poorhouses of the time. They died of diseases like malnutrition, measles, the flu, meningitis etc. none were violently aborted like is common to the millions of babies here now. Read the actual reports/stories. Yes their unwed mothers were shunned into those places and the inhumane rules people lived by then for survival in an inhumane environment led to many abuses. The human condition skirts death till it falls to it. Most nuns worked hard and helped many. Few bad apples taint the basket. Brutal child murder still happens, usually done by brutal jealous drunken or drugged child hating adult male boyfriends of unwed mothers.

  • Because the secular media do not take very many Protestant Churches seriously. The Catholic Church is the preferred target because if “they” are successful at annihilating Christ’s Church (they won’t be, see Mt 16:18) then their relativistic world could become a reality. The Catholic Church has not changed dogma, doctrine, or Tradition since Jesus founded His Church on Peter, the first Pope.

  • Priesthood of all believers. The veil really was torn in two, Pharisees and Sadducees. Your Pope does not speak for me. I speak with the Messiah personally due to Holy Spirit living within me. He hears my voice as he does all believers that seek discipleship. Our love of each other is deep and personal. I pray the RC does not continue to do damage to Christ’s Church, which is far larger than the RC, and turns from the evil within. Come RC and let us reason together as believers. Your Lord calls for you to open the gates of the Vatican, open the treasury to the poor, sell all you have, make restitution to anybody you cheated or offended, and follow him!

  • Again, read the book. And look up Bella Dodd’s testimony. She began as a Communist, but over time, became a Christian.

    While she was but one of many operatives, she placed about 1500 saboteurs’ into the seminary.

    Read also about the “Lavender Mafia.”

  • Priests involved in sex orgies, porn videos and prostitution. Sure is a good thing they weren’t involved in that “evil populism”!

  • The reason Pope Satan has no room for his Muslim Rapeugees is because he is too busy housing Gay Prostitutes to keep his fellow Demons Happy in the Roman Catholic Church of Lucifer.

  • Church is a social club, God doesn’t reside in wood and stone buildings, nor with organizations that commit crimes against his moral laws.

  • Apron? HAHAHAHA!
    You have me confused with someone else. Why are you trying to Pigeon Hole all Baptist Church’s into your Freemasonry theory? I am familiar with imagery the Freemason’s use. There is nothing of the sort in my Church.

  • This is not correct. I could not find the verse but it is taught (NT) that it is better if priests do not marry

  • Even worse. He comes out against populism, iindividuals, their own voluntary associations, seeking their own salvation from doing so. We must all be saved together, therefore none of us can be saved. As Paul’s second says. Anything we are forced to do, means nothing towards our salvation. Jesus did not say, Father please make me do this! rather he said “let this cup pass from me” because I know that if I don’t make the choice myself of my own free will I cannot offer salvation to mankind. A pope that fights populism condemns us all because he insists we all share the same fate because we have no individual free will to make the choice between good and evil. Our pope is an evil man of the first order. May he come to realize this before he meets his maker.

  • I always love these overblown accounts of these hard-core swingers who are so attracted to the priesthood. Yes, there are confirmed accounts of gay priests and ones who have molested children but wild orgies? I think we should cast a jaundiced eye that these underpaid introverts were behaving like members of Nero’s court. It makes great reading but a few furtive encounters are being blown up to evoke a vision of seering naughtiness not seen since Charles I was beheaded. This is anti-religion writ large.

  • You are correct I don’t remember reading about The “Roman Catholic Church” anywhere in the Scriptures. It is called Christianity not Catholicosity. Priests Tell you what to Think. Just Read The Bible if you want to learn. Praise Jesus!

  • Ex-Catholics are like ex-smokers; they absolutely hate the group they left. Just look at the expression on the face of an ex-smoker when she sees a smoker light up nearby. Pure hatred and intolerance. Many ex-Catholics feel the same way about the Church they left.

    Ex-Catholics claim they have left the Church, but are obsessed with it, taking perverse pleasure in every scandal that hits the papers, especially the sexual ones. No other religion, with the exception of Judaism, seems to garner as much hatred as Catholicism, especially amongst its ex-members. Catholics, on the hand, pay very little attention to the scandals found in other religions. Yes, we have enough problems of our own to worry about, but so do other religions and institutions. But many ex-Catholics would secretly admit they would love nothing more than to see the Church’s destruction.

    The Catholic Church is like any other human institution; it has corrupt and vile members, just like the Boy Scouts, the teacher’s union of LAUSD, Hollywood, British royalty, etc. Paedophilia has infested every facet of our society, every corner of every institution. It is found in families, schools, clubs, wherever there are human being. But when it is found in those institutions, most of us don’t secretly wish for those associations to be destroyed by the revelations. We would want to free them of the scourge to make them whole again. The same should be true of any organization, espeically one that does so much good throughout the world.

  • Hey, just like they were better off when they said no to religion in the Soviet Union and its captive nations, and in Communist China, and in Pol Pot’s Cambodia, and Kim Jong Un’s N. Korea, and look around you and see the general deterioration of morality in society as atheism or Islam takes over. Islam is not primarily a religion, it is a totalitarian political system with a veneer of religion. Religions may not kill those who refuse to convert in, kill, torture, imprison, or maim members who disobey the rules of the “religion” or kill those members who convert out, as Islam does as ordered by Allah or Mohammed in the Koran and Hadiths. Totalitarian Political Systems may do that and usually do. Islam and socialism/communism have a lot in common economically as well as politically. Outfits claiming to be religions while engaging in force and violence should be denied the use of the word “religion” at least as far as “freedom of religion” is concerned or you basically give freedom of force and violence to them. Not good. Islam should not be thought of as a religion. Thinking of it as a religion deserving of any respect is a sure way of you or your descendants eventually being killed or accepting totalitarian subjugation by Islam as happened to the Byzantine Empire and all of North Africa and South Asia and Spain.

  • Neil, read Matthew 16:18. Christ founded His Church. Not 2, not 3, not 30,000…one Church. Christians (all) will be held accountable. The Catholic Church absolutely does not teach that all non-Catholics are going to Hell. If you really want to know what the Church teaches, read the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC 1790)

  • If you think the CC is the true church, you will have the surprise of your life when you find yourself in the presence of the Lord.

    Ii would suggest that you read your bible and ask the Holy Spirit to show you what it means to be “in Christ.” You’ll be shocked to see that most people that belong to the CC are just as lost as the rest of the world.

    I have been serving the Lord for over 33 years and I tell you that when I left the CC, it was the best choice I ever made.

  • Christ warns Peter of exactly that….corruption and sin as in the Gates of Hell….Mt 16:18…I want the Church to be perfect as in no corruption and no sin, but Christ does not say that at all. The Church is ‘perfect’ only when it comes to teachings of the Church.

  • No. It never was. The body of Christ has always been made out of born from above believers that bowed the knee to Jesus Christ, confessed His name and by faith in what He accomplished at Calvary, entered into life.

  • Where was this Univesrsal Christian Church during the centuries? I would like to learn about it.

  • “…high standards”? “Pope Francis “? That’s the best laugh I have had all week!!!

  • Jesus did not found the RCC and all the nonsense that goes along with its brand of religion- Jesus lives in the hearts of believers and True believers are his church. Believers are the Temple of God and the Bible tells us to call no man “Father”…..I have set foot in an RCC once and I will never go back.

  • It would be a total waste of time. Unless one recognizes what Jesus accomplished on the cross, believes with his heart and confesses with his mouth that Jesus is Lord, he has no chance.

    Romans 10:9-10 “That if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.”

  • People reject Christs church because the very people who run the church do not serve Jesus or our Lord God. They serve the master of sin. The Catholic church must renounce Papal infallibility and allow Priests to marry so more mean will serve the church and root out the gays and perverts that currently infest it,

  • Face it. It is the pope’s church. He, and all of his idols, have made a mockery of the church of Jesus Christ!!!

  • BTW Jesus destroyed the temple because of the corruption so maybe its time the Church he founded should be destroyed also for the same reason.

  • Hardly. Not the several articles on the subject of ministerial addiction that I have seen.
    Or in case you are engaging in satire, we’re 100% in agreement.

  • The Catholic Church is the result of the apostasy first century Christians were warned about that Satan was going to cause in the church and is certainly not the church established by Jesus. It is nothing more than a political organization that hides in a religious mask. Most certainly not the church of Christ. The Catholic Church is a satanic corruption of Christianity.

  • Read John 12:1— furthermore, there is no institution on the face of this earth that has done more for the poor, downtrodden, sick, diseased, ifgnorant and on and on witness the charities, hospitals, universities, shelters, food pantries, clothing ministries, and the list goes on…the extravagance you see is about God, not man

  • Your theory is flawed by the reality that we are Christians and no believer would feel good about a church failing or falling… When the Pope speaks, all Christians including protestants listen and praise God, however when the Pope initiates cover-ups and talks about US politics it promotes a divide and where there is a divide there is divisiveness.

    I quit smoking 17 yrs ago and I would never suggest that anyone put out there cigarette’s, it’s a tough habit to quit, but once youv’e done it, there really are no health benefits and food still tastes the same, even 15 yrs later, the only advantage is saving money and I don’t have to go outside every 20 minutes to smoke, I don’t harbor any ill feeling for smokers!

  • “THE CHURCH” is as corrupt today as they were in the middle ages. How many ‘bastards’ did the Pope sire in the ‘dark ages’; there will be ‘relics of the cross’ for sale as long as there are trees in the forest….the homosexual perverts FLED society in the 1960’s and ‘hid in the Church’ and that is were all the ‘child abuser Priests’ came from….

  • What did Calvinists do before 1500-1600 when there were no Bibles available for study. Realistically, rich families may have had Bibles beginning in the 1700’s so it begs the question, ….what did Calvinists, Lutherans, and the other splinter groups reference BEFORE there were bibles to readily reference?

  • Amen.
    Jesus is LORD.

    Fight or flight? Separation from Rome, or flight from their Churches.

  • A bit hebephrenic and analytically unsound but peppered with a few factoids and with big holes in the history lesson and the dates were out of order, but since that is basically history as taught in todays colleges you’d probably get an A.

  • “…. and challenging the high standards that Pope Francis has demanded of clergy.”

    Say what?

  • And this differs from their fellow Christians how?

    As far as I see it the Catholic bashers and Catholic apologists are both hysterics. There is plenty to criticize the Catholic Church for. But none of it is coming up here now. Instead, we have the usual nonsense sectarian sniping.

    Christians are such disagreeable folk they can even tolerate different sects of the same faith.

  • The Bible is cited time and again as one of the most accurate historical references…the Old Testament and New Testament are continuously being affirmed and never yet disproven by the science of archaeology

  • The Church years ago due to the shortage of priests decided to open the priesthood to gays. With the proviso that they take a vow of chastity like other priests. Yeah, that has worked out real well hasn’t it? Now that gays are established in the Church it will be impossible to get them out. They are like Hydra. You have to be one to be a member. They support each other and look out for each other. They will lie about everything and pervert everything. I can’t see how you can get them out without destroying the Church. Captain America had to destroy Shield to get rid of Hydra because they became one and the same.

  • Either the Church reforms or the people are going to leave. No gays. No Latin Marxists. Better to not have a church than an evil one.

  • Actually political correctness adopted by the leaders of the Church brought this hell upon the Church.

  • RCC was never part of what Jesus started, but a counterfeit apostasy he prophesied would come after the death of the apostles

  • Christians of all sects seem to revel in using their religious beliefs to make excuses for hateful and immoral behavior.

    The Catholic Church does enough stuff which discredits itself. None of which is brought up by the sectarian haters because their sects are guilty of the same stuff.

  • I join you in condemning bad behavior…that is easy. My question is the same, what teaching of upper leadership is wrong? Upper leadership does not teach this bad behavior. If they do, then “who”? Cite specific cases not the vague generalities in this thread.

  • And by staying with a gay priest and a bishop who supports that person, how are you going to change anything? That is the problem. Instead of listening to the parish they prefer to listen to the lies of the devil. If the devils there and you know it but the priest and bishop won’t listen then what choice do you have. Our Church had openly gays in the hierachy and the priest would not fire them. The people had to push to get them fired and the priest complained about it. He’s a great guy too, but wrong headed.

  • I can’t help but agree with you. It’s entertaining.
    At the same time, it’s rather horrifying, but not remotely surprising. Personally, if I thought about people the way these people do, I couldn’t look at myself in the mirror in the morning.
    But then, I’m an atheist. One of the god botherers already informed me about how it was impossible that I had any morals, because I didn’t have an objective standard of morality and a god to give it to me.
    I hesitated to point out that that was rich coming from someone posting comments on the malfeasance of catholic priests, in a deluge of posting from people I wouldn’t let near my kids, if I had any,.

  • It’s not “our” church. It’s Jesus church. As he said
    “I will build MY church and it will not fail”

  • I think biblically you need to shake the dust off your feet and walk away. By staying you are condoning that behavior. Follow God and read and follow his word, not man made doctrines. God bless.

  • For all you guys slamming the Catholic Church, get off your high horse. The Protestants have only been in the spotlight for 600 years and look at the messes their “numerous” sects have been involved in. Look, I’m Protestant and believe in grace alone but I am thankful for our early Church Fathers and for all of the Christian principles that have been passed down by the Catholics. They may not be perfect and their men have messed up a lot but again, I can only imagine the mess that Protestants would have been involved in over 2000 years. Just sayin’……

  • Forcing people to be celibate is against God and nature it just won’t work,it is self destructive .
    The catholic church better wakes up to this obvious truth or else they will disappear for good.

  • That is not a teaching or doctrine. That is sinful behavior which is not taught in the Church. Yes. The Church has and always will have sinners.

  • Size. Most protestant denominations are far smaller, fragmented, less organized and less prominent.

    Plenty of protestant Bible thumpers get into sex scandals. Especially the more reactionary ones.

  • Behavior will always be bad. St. Peter was called satan by our savior. Judas was picked by our savior. David was a murderer. Paul was a murderer. If u know the bible, you should already have your seatbelts on

  • Don’t worry they are also anti Semitic and hateful towards other religious beliefs in general. Christian sects of all stripes have mastered using religious beliefs to justify hatred.

  • sigh. You are arguing against a point that no one is making. Its what they are doing. Not teaching. Doing. Comprende?

  • The word, “Catholic” (universal) was first used in the early 100’s and was used to distinguish Christ’s Church from the already numerous other ‘Christian’ churches that had gone off track. Clearly and historically, Christ founded the Catholic Church. My 16:18

  • This is what they do…Most people are not wired to obtain from sex. These guys are bizarre…

  • You are 100% correct – that is why Ratzinger still wears the white of a pope.
    He is the real pope still

  • The Catholic Church has never changed the rules because of bad leaders. Henry Vlll made divorce and re marriage fine and dandy. The Catholic Church is the biggest opponent of the new world order. Catholicism is from the old world if u haven’t noticed

  • I agree, by staying you continue to support evil and you let that evil affect you and possibly your children. If it is evil staying won’t change it. It will just make it stronger. Perverts and shysters will lie about everything. There is no way for the parish to root them out once established there without police involvement.

  • Please cite the abominations. Not the sins of sinners. Cite what you “think” the Catholic Church teaches and I will do my best to explain. I really don’t want to argue, but more often than not (much more often) people are just plain mistaken about what they have been told that the Church teaches.

  • They held a party for the victims of the Bowling Green Massacre, Sweden Incident, Pizzagate, American Christian Persecution and American Honor Killings and nobody came.

  • He speaks the truth. Follow God and read his word. Don’t let man and his doctrine lord themselves over you. Jesus literally said he hated that in Rev 2. “Nicolaitan” as denoting the error of their practice which asserted authority over the people in an unnatural distinction between clergy and laity (and which continues to be a distortion of biblical teaching to our own time).

  • Jesus said to Peter, “You are Peter and upon this ROCK (kefa) I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it” Matt 16:18 . This is the beginning of the Catholic Church. ’nuff said.

  • Evil will not prevail against the RCC. We have bad priest and bad bishops. Always have always will. But the deposit of faith will last forever. You miss that, you miss Jesus

  • That is interesting a Protestant citing the Book of James. Did you know Martin Luther wanted to eliminate James, Revelations, and 2 other books from his version of the New Testament?

  • The church is Not Jesus.
    The Church is illegitimate and a den of sodimites
    I would not let a child of mine go through its doors

  • Pope “who am I to judge” regarding homosexual behavior.

    Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.  For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind

  • Our church will be here a 1000yrs from now. Your little strip mall man made fun zone church not so much

  • Henry was not that big of a player
    Martin Luther was and is Right – The Church was a sinister corrupt business enterprise at the time and so were the Popes that he opposed and called then out with their infallibility BS

  • Well said. The protestants today have no reason to be on a high horse. It is the evil of the times called political correctness and listening to it that is the real problem.

  • sun dial in the middle of the vatican, with the obelisk in the middle.
    Jupiter statue in st marks cathedral- but claiming it’s peter.
    Mary being co-redemptrix.
    Selling of indulgences,
    Transubstantiation.

  • Let me guess, the story ends with the courts ordering you to keep more than 500′ from her at all times.

  • Yes. By actual scientists, archaeologists, and historians, many of which are even (hold your breath) Protestants and Atheists

  • And just think of the sheer audacity of beliefs that of any of these priests while offering the Mass with the same fingers that played with little Johnny’s pecker back in the sacristy transforms bread and wine at his beck and call into the God of the Universe ……. totally ludicrous! The greatest fraud perpetrated at the hands of the corrupt Catholic Church ….. Amen, and Amen. And then you the hopelessly naïve and utterly gullible believer ……. Amen.

  • The Catholic Church is still against abortion.
    Lutherns ? Not so much
    The Catholic Church is still against gay marriage
    Lutherns ? not so much
    The Catholic Church is still against condoms
    Lutherns? Not so much
    The Catholic Church is still against divorce
    Lutherns ? Not so much
    Lutherns are a joke because their founder was a joke

  • How can any ordinary parishioner fight the Church hierarchy? They are too powerful and have been pulling the wool over the eyes of the laity for 1,800 years. Obey, obey, obey and never question the Curia and the people in the Vatican. 400 hundred years ago they tied you to a post in the town square and set you on fire if you didn’t toe the line. Now they have more subtle methods.

  • No It does not get any worse than what the catholic church is.
    Its been said in many quarters over the year that the church was the antichrist. There strong argument to be made.
    Tell me how it could get worse?

  • Of course it is not Biblical Doctrine! Biblical Doctrine says to remove such evil, not pay hush money. They are molesting Children, for goodness sake!
    Now all those alter boy jokes should make sense to you now. The Catholic Church upper leaders are protecting Child Molesters….wake up and follow Christ, not the Pope.

  • I am with you 100% arguing against what ‘they’ are doing…I get it. My point is that (hopefully) Christians will look at what the Church teaches before rejecting it solely because of bad-actors (i.e. sinners) which are by no means a monopoly of the Catholic Church.

  • Don’t even go there with excuses for this garbage. The Catholic Church created the inhumane cultural climate. Created the idea that single parents are shameful and attacked access to contraception.

    Orphanages and poor houses run by the church had worse conditions than its prisons. They made a handsome profit selling babies to American families and using teenage girls as slave labor. All of the bodies were dated between 1930-1960. Ireland was not a poor country at that time. By avoiding WWII it had none of the war debt or reconstruction issues of it’s neighbors.

    Those children were buried in a sceptic tank, not graves. Disposed like crap. Literally.

  • So the pope has excommunicated all those good Catholics like pelosi etc etc and most of the democratic party and millions of other that disobey his infallibility teachings. If not who is the real joker!!!

  • Why don’t you put your church up to the standard everyone must be held up to; the Bible and Christ Jesus?

  • The second vatican council in the 60’s was the real death roll.
    It through out the real church. Midnight as well go to a circus now

  • Don’t reward yourself its not bashing its called truth
    Liberals especially cafeteria liberals have a hard time with truth

  • You want behavior? Start here: stopbaptistpredators.org

    Those who think Catholics have cornered the market on sin are seriously deluding themselves. Evangelicalism is rife with sex abuse and coverups. Non-Catholics get a lot less publicity and therefore fly under the radar, but that does not mean they are free of corruption. Not by a long shot. Our Lord said there is nothing hidden now that will not be revealed. And He told the parable of the Pharisee and the Publican to condemn self-righteous finger-pointing. Food for thought. Judgment begins in the Household of God (the Catholic Church) but it doesn’t end there.

  • The modern-day decadent Catholic Church just like the medieval decadent Catholic Church needs another Martin Luther …… and he ain’t no pope! Can you actually believe that the Holy Spirit can be involved while allowing such occasions of sin to lead people astray?
    When are they finally going to make Martin Luther saint?

  • Like I said, we need to work on our own problems first, especially at a personal level.
    Catholics are putting money in the plate, and the Vatican is using that money to shut up the kids they are Molesting. You seem to have no problem with that.

  • Unbelievers reading Protestant and Catholic Christians “conversing” like this must be a scandal to them. They certainly won’t say, “Look at how those Christians love one another.” We need to tone this down. Jesus warned that there would be betrayals and weeds mixed with wheat and that only at the end of time would the true Christians be sorted out from the bad from his Church. So let’s try to be civil with one another in the meanwhile and build the kingdom, even though we Catholics and Protestants and Non Denominational Christians have lots of conflicting views. We also have a lot in common and can often pull together.

  • “He who only wants victory, is always late for battle”
    GK Chesterton.
    Your church missed the battle for 1800yrs and u critiques
    The church that fought the world for 1800yrs????
    You must be joking. You make a Monday morning quarterback look like an Olympian

  • Wrong. You have been deceived. That misusage is no different than the Mormons claiming their “prophets” have the same authority here on earth as the Bible. They’re both cultist. Jesus was telling Peter his confession, of who Christ is, was the Rock that people will be saved. And everyone must make the same confession to be saved. Christ is the Rock, not Peter. God said “I will share my glory with no other”. And now centuries later we have these little Popes running around claiming to be Rocks and Christs (“Vicars” – “instead of” Christ). The blasphemy will be met with God’s wrath.

  • lol. Ungenerated sinners who are as lost as the pope himself. Not one of them knows or understands what it means to be in Christ.

  • “For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.”
    1 Corinthians 11:31-32

  • What a surprise! You can’t find it because it’s not there. Paul said it’s better to marry than burn with desire.

  • Did you reply to my post of why the pope has not excommunicated all the cafeteria liberals. for not obeying church doctrine like polosi
    So much for what is the joke. cherp cherp

  • Christ’s true Church is not corrupted. Man’s false religion is what’s corrupted. Christ died for His Church and He will see it through to the wedding feast. All others will be “torn asunder…
    “50The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
    51And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” Matthew 24

  • But at least the Pope has his focus on the important matters, you know, like denouncing populism.

  • All the ones the cafeteria liberal Catholics seem to disobey – a lot
    most
    No excommunications – why —$$$$$$$
    Now tell me who are the jokesters

  • Yeah, and Sovereign Grace Ministries carried on a decades-long coverup of egregious sex abuse. (Google it.) So did Bob Jones University. (See Grace Report.) I live in the Bible Belt. Every other day there is a news report about some local preacher or youth minister caught in a disgusting sex scandal and/or coverup. Evangelicalism absolutely teems with this stuff, and if you think differently you are kidding yourself. Does that excuse Catholic perps? Of course not. But it sure in heck puts anti-Catholics’ hypocrisy and Pharisaism in perspective. Maybe it’s time that evangelicals stopped pointing fingers at us Catholics and stated cleaning up their own house, which seems to be plenty dirty. (Check out watchblogs such as WartburgWatch, just for starters.) Just a thought.

  • When you say “the church”, which are you referring to? There is only one Church in which Christ died for, and will be presented to Christ as a chaste bride at the wedding feast, It is comprised of overcoming believers from all the nations and Israel. It has no denomination. All other “churches” are just man’s attempt at religious duties.

  • So you are suggesting we should just let evil happen, and let God sort it out? Either stand up to Evil, or remove yourself from its presence. The Vatican takes tithes and uses it to shut up the kids being molested……and still keeps the Child Molesting Priests around. How much more evil do you need to see, before you stop calling the Pope, your Holy Father? Quit following the Pope and follow Christ.

  • Its time to remove the ridiculous non biblical restriction of marriage in the church.

    Celibacy is a ridiculous concept,is the Catholic restriction supported by Gods
    design?

  • Jesus did not create the Catholic church.
    And many of its teachings are not based on scripture.

  • Co redemptrix—Marian doctrine was the most difficult for me. Before it is reflexively dismissed for any number of invalid reasons, I encourage my Protestant Brothers and Sisters to understand exactly what they are rejecting. Tim Staples has written a very in -depth and straightforward book about Mary:

    From the cross Jesus gave us his mother to be our mother, too: a singularly holy model, consoler, and intercessor for our spiritual journey. Yet most Protestants—and too many Catholics—don’t understand the role that God wants her to play in our lives.

    In Behold Your Mother, Tim Staples takes you through the Church’s teachings about the Blessed Virgin Mary, showing their firm Scriptural and historical roots and dismantling the objections of those who mistakenly believe that Mary competes for the attention due Christ alone.

    Combining the best recent scholarship with a convert’s in-depth knowledge of the arguments, Staples has assembled the most thorough and useful Marian apologetic you’ll find anywhere.

    He also shows how all the Marian doctrines are relevant—even essential—to a salvific faith in Jesus. From her divine maternity to her perpetual virginity, from her Immaculate Conception to her Assumption, the Church’s core teachings about Mary are intertwined with the mysteries of Christ. In a word, Mary matters.

    Read Behold Your Motherand find out just how much.

  • Physician, heal thyself. Last time I heard, the SBC *still* had not released its list of clerical sex offenders to member churches so they could protect themselves against these criminals. Precisely because evangelicalism *is* decentralized and non-hierarchical, perp preachers who get thrown out of one congregation can simply go to another…and prey on its teens and children with impunity. Meanwhile, in many cases, denominational leadership does NOTHING to effectively stop the pattern of abuse. In recent years, as news reports show, the Catholic Church has taken MUCH stronger steps against abusers than the SBC or any other communion has. Even GRACE’s Boz Tchividian has publicly conceded this. Clean up your own house before you condemn ours as the epitome of evil. We are actually doing something about our abuse problem. What are you doing about yours?

  • Infant baptism (which has stumbled many a poor soul); prayers to Mary; prayers to Saints; calling priests spiritual fathers; giving authority to Popes (Vicar status) that claims to equal the Word of God and Christ Himself; purgatory; prayers for the dead; confessional ritual. And that doesn’t even touch on the past sins the RCC was founded on such as indulgences; selling Cardinal hats to the rich.

    Everyone of these is unBiblical and means the RCC is not following the Word of God, but claims to speak for Him.

  • Clean out those Bastards too!
    Are you trying to justify evil, by pointing out other Evil’s. Are you nut’s? You sound like the Muslim’s! Your Pope loves the Muslim’s, by the way.
    Any evil, in the house of the LORD needs to be removed. You guys defend Child Molesting Priest’s……with your Money! Wake up and follow Christ!

  • I am not a Catholic -i do not hold to a pope in fact this pope Francis is an antipope and Benidict is the real pope and still wears the white garb of a pope-interesting
    Read the bible a lot – the whole bible many times. Still learn every time i do. It amazes me how incredible it is and being 2000 years old
    Civl authorities are for prosecuting crimes – Jesus will be back and take care of the church. BTW not only do they call the pope father they call the local priest father?? called my old man DAD

  • Haha, no it won’t. Nobody will be met with the wrath of a made up supernatural being.

  • Are they really “normal red-blooded males”? Seems more like the cchurch became a haven for pedos and gays. Seems like the minority of priests are “normal redblooded males”.

  • Mostly because of the RC doctrine of works-righteousness. They are great works, though. But not redeeming.

  • Communism is a political religion. They just substituted one religion for another. The latest new age religion is called “climate change” that puts mother nature on the cross instead of Jesus. The problem is people not think for themselves. The bandwagon effect is a mass killer.

  • Papal Infallibility in matters of faith and morals only became a teaching in the 19th century.

  • Seriously? 0-400 AD the Catholic Church was the persecuted Church by Rome. 300-400 AD the Catholic Church identified the inspired Books of the Christain Bible. You have to have some historical reference for your claim?

  • “traditions” taught by Paul and his students. That doesn’t give someone a license to abuse and make up their own “traditions”. What “traditions” was Paul referring to? “and if another preach another gospel, let him be accursed”. Read them for yourself, they’re written for our edification in the Canon of Scripture; God’s Word.

  • Jesus was delusional because he believed in an invisible friend. We can all use a friend, but if we have to invent one that does not exist, that is sad. No one really knows what Jesus was like. If you could bring him to 2017 with the help of a time machine, I think most American Christians would be very disappointed. He would not look like them and he would not be able to perform miracles. Our image of Jesus is a fantasy, not reality.

  • What a complete waste of time. No ones mind is going to be changed by this back and forth tirade of insults. Pray for each other and get on with life.

  • My point is that Tim Staples does use the Bible extensively in his book. He meets Protestant objections head-on in his book, “Behold Your Mother”. Not everything in the Bible is easily or readily understood to regular people.

    Acts 8:26

  • Where is the verse that says you should help people breaking the law? or get government funding for doing it?

  • But how did you answer the question? On what standards are your morals based and where did you come up with them if you do not use God’s standard?

  • Why is everyone shocked! These are just men, doing what men do. Women too.

    We are all flawed. Maybe someone lies, someone cheats, someone reads porn, someone has anger problems, someone is impatient, someone exaggerates.

    These things while not to be endorsed or condoned are common to men / people.

    The only freedom, is not in restraining oneself. That is not freedom. You refrain, but in your heart you want to do X,Y or Z. Freedom is when you no longer want to do what is wrong.

    That kind of freedom only comes from Christ.

    Also the catholic church has many wonderful Christians in it’s midst, but to be a Catholic doesn’t guarantee you are a Christian, or should I say born anew.

    Being born anew that is the true need, and answer. For spiritual beings are the only ones who can inherit eternity. Jesus makes this clear to Nicodemus.

  • “What are you doing about yours?”
    I will tell you what I won’t do, and that is Defend such evil, by pointing out other evil. I SAY CLEAN ALL Evil from Christ’s Church. Peter is screaming to High Heaven!
    Putting your money, IN the Catholic Tithing plate and is being used to shut up children who were molested. Those Priests should be put in Prison! What does the Pope do? Asks you for more money, and you are more than willing to oblige. This is no secret, and you are paying for it! That makes you an accomplice, allowing children to be molested! Stop following your Pope, like he is your Team leader, he knows what is going on and lets it continue, in his ranks. Child molesters go to prison, unless you are a Catholic Priest! You can’t make this stuff up!
    Heard any good Alter boy jokes lately? Now they all make sense.

  • It was a Tudor that put a bible in everyone’s hand over the whole earth no Church did that. You forget the church battled to stop people from having the Bible! You all owe the real kings of England everything you believe in.

  • Jesus said, if you lust after a woman you already committed adultery with her in your heart. Because it’s in the heart where sins originate. His standards are higher than ours.

  • It’s the same evil spirit that has infested the Catholic Church since its inception. The history of it proves who it bows to, it claims to be of Jesus but it’s actions show its allegiance to Satan.

    The Word of God is 100% infallible and it proves the Catholic Church to be the anti-christ.

    Come out of her my people that ye not be partaker of her plagues.

  • Jesus Christ’s Church is in a temple not built with human hands, my friend. I left the Catholic Church over 20 years ago when an amazing miracle happened to me – I read the bible, and I had ears to hear and eyes to see.

    Funny how that book seems to be missing in the RCC. Maybe they should put it back in the pews.

  • Do a google search, slow one. It is all over the place!

    Catholic Church Paying Off Abuse Survivors – Universal Life Church …
    https://www.themonastery.org/blog/…/catholic-corruption-paying-off-abuse-survivors…Oct 28, 2016 – The Catholic
    Church is offering settlements to survivors of sexual abuse in … Is
    offering money to sexual abuse victims a sign of the Church’s good
    faith, or is … Would Yeshua allow HUSH MONEY to cover up sexual abuses?

  • Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. James 1:27

    Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
    John 14:6

  • By staying in the church you are complicit and an accomplis. Leave the evil group who prays on boys and others.

  • For all the horror this presents, the Catholic Church has nothing on the institutionalized pedophilia and sexual perversion of moehamheadism.

  • Every single one of your objections is easily dismissed: infant baptism was early Church practice (Didache) BEFORE there was a Bible and Holy Tradition of the Church; a prayer means the same as ‘asking’ and yes it is Biblical Revelations 8:3-4—asking saints to pray for us is pretty much the same as asking friends to pray for us which most do quite often…asking Saint Mary to pray for us is Biblical;

  • But the catholic church turns their backs on abortions, gay marriage, condoms, divorce, etc and claims to be holy. They are hypocrites.

  • … and the English rooted out Lollards and Lutherans and executed undercover Catholic priests. The English burned people at the stake at Smithfield and Norwich. Dutch Calvinists hanged priests. In Geneva, Calvin persecuted both Anabaptists and Catholics…

  • Homer may not have been. The Iliad and Odyssey have clear roots in oral tradition and dramatic performance. Homer may be a pseudonym for the writing down of such tradition.

    Alexander the Great has mundane sources attesting to his existence. There is a ton of credible outside evidence if his existence.

    There is no evidence of Moses or the events of Exodus outside the Bible.

    You got one out of three.

  • What rubbish. The first believers were Jewish. They were just another group within Judaism. The RCC didn’t tell Jews which books belong in the Hebrew scriptures. The RCC was persecuted when poerless and did the persecuting when they had the power.

  • But its more important for Pope Frank to wag a finger at The West and say “Tks tsk..you are so awful!”

    The Church of Rome should be seized, the leadership jailed, and its assets sold off with the proceeds given to the poor.

  • Peter was the first Pope MT 16:18—how is Christ’s Church to live through the ages without the transfer of this authority? Christ empowered His Church to bind and to loose on earth

    MT 16:19

  • No where does the bible say “give to the masses”
    The church existed before the New Test.

  • Purgatory

    The Catechism of the Catholic Church defines purgatory as a “purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven,” which is experienced by those “who die in God’s grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified” (CCC 1030). It notes that “this final purification of the elect . . . is entirely different from the punishment of the damned” (CCC 1031).

    The purification is necessary because, as Scripture teaches, nothing unclean will enter the presence of God in heaven (Rev. 21:27) and, while we may die with our mortal sins forgiven, there can still be many impurities in us, specifically venial sins and the temporal punishment due to sins already forgiven.

  • No I didn’t. I don’t know why the pope doesn’t.
    I would. But I ain’t the pope. I’m sure he had his reasons.

  • The 12 apostles were Jewish and Catholic. The cardinal of Paris France is Jewish and catholic.

  • So “credible outside evidence” is proof that AtG lived? Would that be written or some forensic or anthropological evidence? Are there records of people seeing his bones, in other words, or his grave site? What I’m getting at is if you believe there is “credible outside evidence” for the existence of AtG; what makes the thousands of documents of the life of Jesus and the predictions of him hundreds of years before His birth any less of “credible outside evidence”?

  • Maybe the current pope can explain why neither Hitler nor Mussolini has been excommunicated. Also if he has the time maybe he can explain the fact that the Roman Catholic “church” has been responsible for more Christian deaths than any other person or organization in history…

  • You said “molesting” present tense. Those Google searches are “past” tense. Your bad

  • Peter may have been one of the first ‘popes’ or church leader, but it wasn’t upon PETER that Christ’s church would be built — what a complete display of human arrogance. God doesn’t need people to build His church for Him, He is quite capable of doing that Himself. We are lucky if we get to take part in building His kingdom.

    Listen to Malinse (below), as his rebuttal of the meaning of that passage is more accurate and *within context of the book and the chapter*. Christ would build the basis of his church, the foundation from which nothing would shake (see the parables of the house–one on rock, the other on sand) on the confession that Jesus was the Son of God, that Peter had just spoken.

    MacArthur also has a great sermon on this portion of scripture.

    It is unfortunate more people don’t study the Bible in a larger context, instead of focusing on verses in a vacuum. That’s how cults start.

    For an example — See Matthew 16:23. Taken literally (in combination with your claim that Peter is the origin of the church), does that mean all Catholics are Satanists?

  • Mark 10:4; news flash, the Tudors’ didn’t invent divorce. Looks like Moses did. Wonder why God didn’t tell him it was wrong back then since they talked a lot and had that whole Ten Commandments thing going on together.

  • Yes God told Moses divorce was bad. I guess u missed that part. But I guess if your church don’t teach that to u, you have a nice little excuse

  • Good ones; and don’t forget; “…15But just as He who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do, 16for it is written: “Be holy, because I am holy.” 17Since you call on a Father who judges each man’s work impartially, live your lives in reverent fear during your temporary stay on earth.…”
    1Peter 1

  • The current Pope and the church are beginning to look more and more like that of Pope Clement V, except rather than being controlled by the King Phillip IV of France, the Pope and church are just becoming corrupted and falling under the influence of cultural Marxism. Let’s not forget that the Moors will come back again and take a part of Southern Europe like during Clement’s time and enforce Sharia Law, with the current Pope’s blessing. History is repeating itself.

  • I appreciate your specificity. Please keep in mind this information merely scratches the surface. I pray you continue to search with an openness to the Holy Spirit. God Bless. Amen.

  • Probably because the catholics refuse to let Christ down from the cross and chose to elevate Mary to some fantasy station in heaven that is equal to Jesus Christ.

  • if that is the case (I agree to disagree) then ask someone who is well-versed why that happened (again, I respectfully disagree that the teachings changed that dramatically)

  • Yes to both…..and don’t leave out the Leadership of the American Democrat party and the EU elite as well.

  • Yes! This is Christ’s church, it’s OUR church, not the degenerate’s church. I know right from wrong and I will hold the clergy to standard.

    Answer us, Rome!

  • So how do you explain all the Protestant sex abuse? Oh if only Protestant clergy could marry! Oh wait….

  • Because the Catholic Church is very big and has deep pockets. Other communions fly under the radar. But the truth is out there. See stopbaptistpredators.org for starters.

  • Yep, time for a new Martin Luther, although the Lutherans and the Episcopalians have also fallen under the influence of Cultural Marxism as well. I just can’t see how they rationalize support for militant Islam and the inevitable coming of conflict and Sharia Law.

  • Please try to look at the Catholic Church through a different lens (i.e., St. Pope John Paul, II and alike). The current Pope has caused confusion regarding remarriage, homosexuality and practically endorsing socialism and globalism. There are recent news stories about Cardinals who voted for him, but are now encouraging him to step down because of the threat of a great schism. Catholic doctrine cannot change or be changed by anyone, including the pope.

  • Yeah, right. See stopbaptistpredators.org. Or the Washingtonian article about Sovereign Grace Ministries. SMH.

  • I was raised as a child in the
    Catholic church during the late 60s and 1970s. In 1986 I became a born again Christian just as our Lord Jesus said to while traveling and performing in an evangelical rock band that was well known at the time. In 1993 I went to Denver with another evangelical Christian band invited to play at Pope John Paul’s world youth day which we did. I’ve done Christian music ministry on 5 continents since the 1980’s. I had a dream last year and this is it….
    In my dream I was in a large building in Europe it could have been the Vatican but I’m not sure. It had a large courtyard and huge pillars. I was sitting in a large room with about 100 other laymen and women not clergymen. We were waiting for someone of importance to come in and start the meeting. Shortly afterwards a Bishop or cardinal came in with attendants and seemed agitated and in a hurry. He was someone of great importance. As we sat and waited the important clergyman said “we are going to start taking advice, counsel from a woman that is a seer, a conjurer, someone who can see into the future” Again the important man seemed agitated that he even had to be at this meeting with lay people to tell us these things. A gasp went out in the room as we were stunned by what the important man said. and a man turned to me and said, “that’s sinful, that is not of God.” That was the end of my dream. Take it for what it’s worth. I’m merely a servant of Jesus.

  • Malachi 2:16 God said “I hate divorce ”
    Your right, it ain’t there. I’m glad I’m catholic

  • Eh – maybe yes, maybe no. In the U.S. divorce and remarriage among Catholics is common. Church annulments get handed out like snickers bars on Halloween with a nudge-nudge-wink-wink.

  • But he wasn’t a heretic, he never gave up his faith, he always returned to the One whom he had to do with, to receive forgiveness, and he didn’t lead people away from God. God forgave him and called him a man after My own heart.

  • It’s Lutherans. And to the degree your litany may be correct, it makes me want to be one, as it would most people.

  • So, do you think ALL Catholics are evil and did NOT know or love Jesus then? If Mother Teresa did not know Christ, then who does?

  • The Roman Catholic Church was not founded by Jesus Christ but by Satan. One cannot claim Christ and yet contradict the clear and emphatic teachings of Holy Scripture. The Roman Catholic “gospel” is not the gospel delivered by the Apostles, and is therefore, per Paul, accursed. The RCC is the Harlot of Babylon. Sitting on the seven hills (Rome). Arrayed in purple and scarlet (cardinals and bishops). With a golden cup in her hand (Popes and priests). She has fornicated with the kings of the earth (politically intermingled with world leaders). And she is drunk with the blood of the martyrs (the Inquisitions and other persecutions).

  • 1 Corinthians 7

    32I should like you to be free of anxieties. An unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord.33But a married man is anxious about the things of the world, how he may please his wife,k34and he is divided. An unmarried woman or a virgin is anxious about the things of the Lord, so that she may be holy in both body and spirit. A married woman, on the other hand, is anxious about the things of the world, how she may please her husband.l35I am telling you this for your own benefit, not to impose a restraint upon you, but for the sake of propriety and adherence to the Lord without distraction.m

    36* If anyone thinks he is behaving improperly toward his virgin, and if a critical moment has come* and so it has to be, let him do as he wishes. He is committing no sin; let them get married.37The one who stands firm in his resolve, however, who is not under compulsion but has power over his own will, and has made up his mind to keep his virgin, will be doing well.38So then, the one who marries his virgin does well; the one who does not marry her will do better.

  • There was vain evil rot and corruption in The Church when it persecuted Galileo in the 1630s. I never forgave The Church for that great sin. It looks like it’s only gotten worse since then. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

  • But it moehamheadism it is cultural. We prosecute priests or preachers who rape children. In moehamheadism, it is a way of life. I consider the millions and millions of little girls who met the same fate as Aisha possibly the greatest genocide in history.

  • Do you need god to tell you not to murder people? Is your decision not to rape your sister completely dependent upon your fear of being punished for an eternity for it?

    Answer those two questions, and I’ll spend the time to answer yours.

  • Jesus Christ did not found Roman Catholicism. The Faith founded by Christ is defined in Holy Scripture, not by perverted Popes who exalt their heresies above the Word of God. If you contradict God, then you do not have God.

  • What evil group is that? Sovereign Grace Ministries? Bob Jones University? The Goddard Cult? There are so many to choose from..

  • Nope. Jesus Christ actually left a structure. Hence, the 12 apostles and Christ’s three year ministry. And, compare the entrustment of the keys to Peter to Isaiah 22:20-23 where the keys are removed from Shebna (v 15), the king’s steward, and promised to Eliakim (to be the king’s steward or keeper of the keys or master of the house when the king is absent). The first protestants can be found in John 6:66. And, look at 2 Peter 1:20 (KJV) “Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.”

  • True, Satan will be there and it wont matter what form he is in…

    Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood. (Revelation 22:15)

    Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.

  • Lutherans have become corrupted by liberalism. This is bad, and they should repent. But this does not absolve the monumental heresies and blasphemies of the Roman Catholic Church, which is the Harlot of Babylon.

  • Wh, I don’t think that’s accurate either. Some say people excommunicate themselves, but when it comes to abortion Nancy Pelosi, Pat Leahy and all the as apolitical issue, that doesn’t happen. Ted Kennedy had a Catholic funeral and so did Beau Biden. When the time comes, so will Joe Biden, Tim Kaine, Pat Leahy, and all the rest.

  • Malachi is not Moses. They are separated by hundreds of years if not a thousand. I’m glad I’m able know the difference between Malachi and Moses. When you get that Moses quote let me know.

  • I thought most (all) of my posts were factual or civil simply defending the Catholic Church….I was just pointing to a fact with this reference about James. I really did not mean for this post (any post) to be offensive. Sincerely.

  • Actually it is quite accurate. Mary is seen as a co-redemptrix and co-mediatrix.

    Don’t weigh in on subjects on which you are ignorant.

  • The Catholic Church will be here 10,000 yrs from now.
    Whatever stupid church u go to, not so much

  • “And it’s only possible in the priesthood because of clericalism…” is as meaningless a statement as I’ve ever heard.

  • Catholics imprisoned, tortured, raped, robbed and murdered millions of actual Christians over many centuries who refused to worship the Pope, but suddenly they can’t take mere verbal criticism and play the victim card. This is where I roll my eyes.

  • Well, now, that’s kind of like the Masons claiming to have originated from the builders of Solomon’s Temple and the pyramids. It’s a nice story, but, it’s kind of like calling Prince the New Michael Jackson. It works on some levels, but historicity is not one of them.

  • Believe me, you do not want to start comparing the millions of Catholic atrocities over many hundreds of years to the isolated instances of Protestant ones.