Obama: Alleged war on Islam is ‘an ugly lie’

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U.S. President Barack Obama speaks during the White House Summit on Countering Violent Extremism at the State Department in Washington Feb. 19, 2015. REUTERS/Joshua Roberts. *Editors: This photo may only be republished with RNS-OBAMA-EXTREMISM.

U.S. President Barack Obama speaks during the White House Summit on Countering Violent Extremism at the State Department in Washington Feb. 19, 2015. REUTERS/Joshua Roberts. *Editors: This photo may only be republished with RNS-OBAMA-EXTREMISM.

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WASHINGTON (RNS) National leaders must dispute claims that there is a clash of civilizations in the world, the president said during a second-day speech at the White House Summit on Confronting Violent Extremism.

  • James Carr

    Stop talking down to the public, Mr. Obama. We know that all Muslims have no ties to terrorism, but today’s terrorists are all Muslim! THEY are murdering innocents on 5 continents weekly, and resurface faster than weeds that were pulled out yesterday. Islam does direct them, irregardless of their corrupt interpretation. Let their Mullahs instruct them, the West has no influence on their religion. DO SOMETHING TO STOP THE ISLAMIC MURDERS…….

  • Fourth Valley

    The IRA isn’t real?? That Christian who shot up a Sikh Temple in the county I live in wasn’t real either?? The 2011 Norway attacks killing 77 people also didn’t happen?? The Buddhist Power Force isn’t actually going around murdering Muslims?? The Gujarat Pogrom of 2002 didn’t happen??

    Today’s terrorists certainly are not all Muslim, or do you deny the death of Sikhs at Christian that have occurred in my community?? There are plenty of Christian, Hindu, and even Buddhist terrorists out there in this day and age. Don’t turn a blind eye to them.

  • James Carr

    Okay….your point is noted, but crackpot groups that come and go do not compare with the growing, revolting terror groups that have built up their forces for decades and threaten the world at large……the Muslim terrorists. Geez!

  • Larry

    So when George W. Bush was saying the SAME EXACT THING, where was your criticism?

    ““These acts of violence against innocents violate the fundamental tenets of the Islamic faith. And it’s important for my fellow Americans to understand that,” he said. “The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. . . . Islam is peace. These terrorists don’t represent peace. They represent evil and war.””
    -George W Bush

    ” “We are not at war with Islam. We are at war with people who have perverted Islam. . . . [T]he terrorists do not speak for over a billion Muslims who reject their hateful ideology. They no more represent Islam than any madman who kills innocents in the name of God represents Christianity or Judaism or Buddhism or Hinduism.””

    Barak H Obama


    The only people who benefit by calling our situation a War on Islam are recruiters in Al Queda and ISIS. They get to tell the mainstream Muslims all over the world, “See the West wants to destroy you for being Muslim, fight back!”

    James, people like yourself are the best recruiting tool the Islamicists can hope for. You are trying to embody all of their propaganda and fear mongering.

  • Larry

    James, prior to 1979 most terrorists in those regions weren’t even religious. They were nationalist or radical.

    Islamicist terror groups have been building up mostly due to the Saudi/Iran cold war. We are caught in the middle of a proxy fight between two politicized theocracies.

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  • philip

    Welcome to Orwellian Speak! Our politicians, including Obama, so masterfully has mastered Goebbels’ propaganda” Advanced Course in Misleading & Lying” to the American people.
    If you do not know, George Orwell’s 1984 and Goebbels, who title was Adolf Hitler’s Minister of Public Enlightenment & Propaganda, masterfully show how an ignorant populace can be manipulated through the controlled news media. Look closely at Obama’s hands and other body parts, at the invisible strings attached by the puppetmasters of the world who give us the likes of Bush, Clinton, and Obama.
    Do you remember Obama’s “Arab Spring”? That a New Age in the Middle East was being born? Pardon me but, it’s one hell of an ugly looking baby! Believe it or not, this is all a planned exorcism to draw out evil and create chaos in the Middle East. All this based on two religions: Christianity and Islam, that the writings predict in the Bible and the Quran an End of Times scenario between Good and Evil. This might surprise you but, both sides believe it. One side is hoping to bring it about.
    Evil is not based on poverty, is not based on lack of education, is not based on the color of your skin, the language you speak, your climate that you live in, or the food that you eat. Goebbels is nodding in hell at the masterful wording of Obama.
    Extremism in any religion cannot be pandered to unless one wants to fall under its edict. The great Muslim General Salah al-Din ibn Ayyub (Saladin) understood that you cannot have an extreme Christian Caliphate. Today we face an Islamic terrorist Caliphate and I stress “extremist”. Their Crusade needs to be met by a Saladin.

  • James Carr

    If Islam is a faith of peace, then who is educating the terrorists? Why does the Muslim community not root them out and hand them over to the authorities? They have a better idea of their movements and members than we do. The general Muslim silence on all of this reeks of ambivalence. Thank heavens Jordan and Egypt are finally involved. Muslims on Muslims may be the only answer.

  • James Carr


  • Larry

    “If Islam is a faith of peace, then who is educating the terrorists? ”

    Dictatorships we can’t touch for one reason or another. How hard is this concept?

    The “Muslim silence on all of this” is a fiction which serves both terrorists and sectarian Christian extremists. Of course you contradicted it by mentioning how Jordan and Egypt (2 Muslim majority nations) are finally involved.

  • The President does not want to run nothing but his mouth. He might at least dial it back on the humbug, but if he did that, he would not be who he is.

    With little doubt, the military can come up with a plan to defeat ISIS. It requires the politicians to persuade the public of its feasibility and utility, which is beyond BO’s talents.

  • The IRA has been dissolved for all intents and purposes and it was an ethno-political organization whose standards were military and macho in the first instance and Marxist in the second. The Norway massacres were the work of one idiosyncratic student of contemporary history, not the work of a mass movement. And, please note, if you have to scrounge over 45 years of history and make references to two obscure events, you’re admitting your cupboard is pretty bare.

  • “especially their attempt to use Islam to justify their violence.”

    You don’t have to be an adherent to the meme theory of history to acknowledge that that particular mental operation requires no intellectual jujitsu. Or, as Robert Spencer puts it, “Moderate Islam is a cultural habit. Radical Islam is authentic Islam”.

  • As he did Wednesday, Obama said governments must also deal with the economic and political grievances that can fuel appeals to terrorism.

    Sorry, not my job to repair the Algerian labor market. Nor is it yours, Mr. BO. Your job is to keep the detritus of wretched social relations in the Arab world from washing up on our shores.

  • Larry

    Which is funny because the previous president SAID THE SAME THING. In fact he even went into further details as to why one should not demonize Islam.

    “The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That’s not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don’t represent peace. They represent evil and war.

    “When we think of Islam we think of a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. Billions of people find comfort and solace and peace. And that’s made brothers and sisters out of every race — out of every race. ”

    “I also want to speak tonight directly to Muslims throughout the world. We respect your faith. It’s practiced freely by many millions of Americans, and by millions more in countries that America counts as friends. Its teachings are good and peaceful, and those who commit evil in the name of Allah blaspheme the name of Allah. The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself. The enemy of America is not our many Muslim friends; it is not our many Arab friends. Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists, and every government that supports them.”

    “Bush was right: We’re not at war with Islam”

  • James Carr

    Why can’t we touch dictatorships that are a threat to us? We are still the most powerful nation on earth. When dealing with unquestionable barbarism we needn’t be afraid to use all of our muscle.

  • James Carr


  • Larry

    So how did our occupation of Iraq go for us?

    We are friendly with 2 of them (Saudi Arabia and Pakistan). We lack the nerve, ability or stomach to attack or occupy the other (Iran).

    As long as about 1/3rd of the world relies on Saudi oil, we aren’t going to touch them. Pakistan has nukes and terrain alone makes occupying Iran a greater possible fustercluck than Iraq was.

    The US Army has shrunken to levels unseen since the 1930’s. Tanks, ships and planes are of little utility against people who are not organized on military lines who are more bands of brigands than an organized army. We don’t have the feet on the ground.

    We should be arming the hell out of the Kurds. [OMG MUSLIMS!!!!!!] Who have been not only effectively opposing Islamic State but performing unsolicited humanitarian aid and protection to its victims. The Kurds have been loyal to the US ever since we prevented their genocide at Saddam Hussein’s hands. We owe them their own country at this point.

    When you attack the entire faith of Islam, you attack our allies as well. You do nothing but make it easier for the terrorists to operate and harder for us.

  • Larry

    A republican president says the same thing and gets narry a word. Conservatives are hypocrites. I get that.

    Of course you miss the point of either of them. We aren’t going to make any headway against Islamicist enemies by attacking the entire faith of Islam. Its not even practical. Its just counter-productive and stupid.

  • James Carr

    Well, the faith is a heresy anyway, so the implication that Islam and violence are intertwined is not a new concept. Our “allies” will turn on us as quick as you can say Allah, so politically correct approaches are worthless. The US should have remained in Iraq / Afghanistan as we did in Japan and Germany. After maybe 50 years of occupation, the populace may understand the difference between tribal barbarism and civil behavior.

  • James Carr,


    How about lets do something to stop ALL religious murders?
    The world needs secularism.

    Secularism is not a utopia – It won’t fix every problem.

    But it is the equivalent of stopping all sacrificing of virgins by throwing them into volcanoes. Abandoning religion will at least make everyone less miserable.

  • Larry

    “Well, the faith is a heresy anyway”

    And this is why your comments on the subject are ultimately useless nonsense. You miss the big picture to sling around pointless sectarian attacks. You won’t ever get it. You are as much of the problem as the jihadis.

    “The US should have remained in Iraq / Afghanistan as we did in Japan and Germany”

    And where are you getting the people from? Reinstating the draft? Napalming the populations down to manageable levels for our forces?

  • Jack

    Terrorism as we know it today is largely an outgrowth of modern, mostly secular, totalitarian (Marxist and fascist) denials in principle of any meaningful moral distinction between combatants and non-combatants and a belief in the supremacy of the political over all other aspects of life.

    Seen in this light, radical Islamism is a hybrid…..partly rooted in traditional jihad, but partly rooted in specifically modern totalitarian views which penetrated the Middle East in the last century.

    So it’s not either/or…..but both. And that means a two-fold solution….the Muslim world must reform itself from within and it must also cast off alien nihilistic totalitarian ideologies which represent the worst of the West.

    Obama’s views that radical Islamism is alien to Islam is thus partly right and partly wrong…….He is, in other words, oversimplifying….

  • Jack

    The dumbest thing George W. Bush ever said was that Islam is a religion of peace.

    What Bush should have said was that most Muslims are peaceful and want the same things we do. That would have conveyed his sentiments sufficiently — with the crucial advantage that it happens to be true.

    When Bush made that statement, he cut the legs out from under every genuine Muslim reformer in the world….and made himself and the United States look ridiculous.

  • Jack

    Larry, we should avoid both extremes…..no broad-brushing Islam as a religion of terrorism, but no patronizing nonsense about Islam being a religion of peace, either. We should be addressing Muslims, not Islam itself. Presidents are political leaders, not theologians.

  • Jack

    The obvious problem in Iraq was our failure to do anything about the Sunni minority and its Saddam die-hards after getting rid of Saddam.

    Had we moved to secure the Triangle and adjacent areas quickly and early, and done a surge-like campaign right then and there, there is no reason in the world we would not have succeeded.

    To this very day, nearly all of Iraq’s problems are coming from within the 20% of the country that’s Sunni.

    This was quite frankly our biggest mistake, and good for Jeb Bush for criticizing his brother publicly just last week on the matter, even as he rightly praised him for the surge four years later.

  • Larry

    The point has to be that we are not at war with the religion as the Islamicists claim in their recruiting propaganda.

    The Islamophobes in their zeal are making it easier for the terrorists/brigands (ISIS is not a terrorist group, but an organized army).

  • Jack

    Larry, the “Islamophobes” are one-half of the problem. The other half tilts the opposite extreme and is just as bad……Both problems cut the legs out from under moderate Muslim reformers who merit our support.

    We should neither praise nor condemn Islam itself. Both tactics are a mistake.