Presbyterian marriage * Middle East breakup * Yoga’s birthplace: Friday’s Roundup

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Presbyterians vote to allow same-sex marriage ceremonies. The CIA developed a ­custom-made Osama bin Laden ­action figure. The place where yoga originated.

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  • Paul Balaban

    You are a bit early on saying that the ELCA allows gay and lesbian weddings. We officially accept gay and lesbian ministers (the only official church wide action taken so far). While it will happen – and does in some areas already – it is not policy or a church wide action.

  • John McGrath

    The article on Gertrude Bell is ridiculous, as pointed out by knowledgeable commentators (whose comments the blog does not allow me to return to). Example: the article claims the Hashemite monarchy ended in 1938 when it fact the kings ruled until 1958, when The Baath party staged a coup, with Saddam quickly eliminating his Baath rivals and taking over. Bell was not important in drawing Iraq’s boundaries. This article is a deliberately created myth based on the real life of a British spy who, like Lawrence, was shoved aside when the real British imperial honchos took over and drew the boundaries.

  • John McGrath

    The “leaders’ of right wing “Christian” causes know a golden egg when they sit on it. they are in the fund raising business, for their own enrichment, one of the many legal cons done under the aegis of “non-profit” corporation. Winning the cause does not matter, getting the contributions to pour in is all that matters to these operators.

  • Yonat Shimron

    Thanks for the update. I’ve taken out the ELCA.

  • Doc Anthony

    PCUSA = Titanic.

    I urge all Bible-believing Presbyterians to leave that ship immediately. They are sinking VERY fast. Denominational hypothermia is imminent. Get off that ship, Christians.

  • Rev. Albert W. Kovacs, UCC

    Marriage of other than a man and woman is prohibited by pastors or in churches of the Calvin Synod Conference of the United Church of Christ.
    All ministers and church officers may not conduct nor participate in such unions. The Synod does not recognize pseudo-marriages, and requires chastity in singleness and fidelity in marriage of a man and woman.

  • Perry Bulwer

    “Pope Francis has come out strongly against the legalization of recreational drugs.”

    Well, at least that makes it clear where he stands on science. He rejects abundant scientific evidence that the prohibition of drugs has been a disastrous public policy failure all around the world. If he was truly concerned about addiction issues he would accept the fact that the best way to prevent addiction, and to deal with current addicts, is to legalize and regulate drugs. Drug use is a public health issue not a criminal issue. It makes no sense legally, medically, or morally to continue to criminalize drug users.

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  • Dave Miller

    Yonat, I was a voting member at the 2009 Churchwide Assembly of the ELCA, and I can affirm that your original statement, which was no longer in evidence at the time I viewed today’s RoundUp, was most likely correct. Mr. Balaban is incorrect. I am dismayed that you altered your original posting on the basis of Mr. Balaban’s statement. A simple check of Wikipedia after he posted what he posted would have given you pause. There you would have read:

    [The Assembly adopted the following resolutions:]

    Resolution 1: Adopted by a vote of 619-402: “Resolved, that the ELCA commit itself to finding ways to allow congregations that choose to do so to recognize, support and hold publicly accountable lifelong, monogamous, same-gender relationships.”[23]

    Resolution 2: Adopted by a vote of 559-451: “Resolved, that the ELCA commit itself to finding a way for people in such publicly accountable, lifelong, monogamous, same-gender relationships to serve as rostered leaders of this church.”[24]

    I was there. I voted for these resolutions.

    Please consider reverting your edits to your original statement. Thank you.

  • Dave Miller

    P.S. Your colleague, Lauren Markoe, wrote in the 6/19 story on the PCUSA vote (to which you linked):

    “The Episcopal Church, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America and the United Church of Christ all allow same-sex marriage.”

    She’s right. Mr. Balaban is not. And now you’re not, either. Can you please correct this?

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