A man kneels in prayer at Trinity Church in Boston in 2013. Photo by Charles Clegg/Creative Commons

Why fewer Americans are attending religious services

(RNS) — Fewer adults are attending religious services in the United States, but not necessarily because they don’t believe.

Many cite practical or personal reasons for skipping weekly services, according to new Pew Research Center data released Wednesday (Aug. 1).

Most notably, nearly 4 in 10 say they simply practice their faith in other ways and remain "fairly religious by a number of measures,” according to Pew Associate Director of Research Gregory A. Smith.

For nearly 3 in 10 Americans, the reason they don’t attend religious services is because they do not share religious beliefs.

But more people say it’s because they find another outlet for their faith (37 percent) or dislike certain things about services (37 percent): They haven’t found a place of worship that they like, they don’t like the sermons at their place of worship or they don’t feel welcome.

Of those believers who rarely or never attend services, 6 in 10 identify as Christian, and 44 percent say they pray every day.

Top reasons U.S. adults give for choosing to attend or not attend religious services. Graphic courtesy Pew Research Center

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It’s unclear from the survey results how those respondents practice their faith instead. Smith said those who rarely or never attend services don’t seem to be joining community organizations instead. In fact, regular attendees still are more likely to join groups like a club or charity.

The new data follows previous surveys suggesting that the number of Americans attending religious services at least once a week is dropping. According to Pew’s 2014 Religious Landscape Survey, those who say they go to church or another house of worship at least once a week fell from 39 percent in 2007 to 35 percent in 2014.

In that same period, the number who say they “seldom or never” go to church, mosque, synagogue or another service inched up, from 27 percent to 30 percent.

The recent survey shows nonetheless that many of those who don't regularly attend services remain “at least moderately religious,” Smith noted. Nearly all (94 percent) of those who attend services at least once a month and well over half (61 percent) who rarely or never attend for reasons other than nonbelief say religion is at least somewhat important in their lives.

Of those who attend services at least once a month, most (81 percent) say they do so to grow closer to God, but they also cite giving children a moral foundation (69 percent), becoming a better person (68 percent) and receiving comfort in times of trouble or sorrow (66 percent). Ninety-one percent are Christian and 71 percent pray every day.

Pew surveyed more than 4,700 people on its American Trends Panel, recruited from telephone surveys. Panelists participated in a self-administered web survey between Dec. 4 and 18, 2017. The margin of error for all respondents is plus or minus 2.3 percentage points, according to Pew.


  1. A factor that may not have been considered in all this is the fact that Americans are gathering at fewer and fewer public spaces to do things together, e.g. things like going out to the movies. Why bother doing that when you can watch movies on your phone? As a gay person, I’ve watched the institution of the gay bar, once the only place gay people could safely meet, vanish one by one as phone apps suchs as Grindr replace the need to gather as a community. Fewer people attend public concerts anymore. Why should they when they can just listen to music on their phones? The smart phone may have opened up a whole new world at your fingertips but it also killed a great many other worlds where people used to gather, and in many ways that’s a shame. With regard to dwindling attendance at religious services I doubt that’s the only factor, it’s simply one among many.

  2. You make good points. I have been concerned since the rise in social media platforms, and every (or almost every) child having their own phone that people would begin to know/learn how to act face to face with others. That this great connecting media would actually lead people to disconnect from face to face interactions with people. This does seem to be happening.

  3. Most traditional worship services aren’t well suited for the contemporary western attention span, which is roughly the same as the average time between television commercials.

    We’ve become a society that expects to be entertained. Look at the megachurch phenomenon. These venues are designed more like concert halls than churches. The emphasis is on the big screen and where the band performs, and pastors are selected more for their skills as motivational speakers than preachers of the Word of God.

    Yep, they pack them in, unlike traditional congregations. But I have to wonder how much people are being fed.

  4. Off the top of my head:


    Binge watching/DVRs/Online streaming services

    Lack of peer pressure in communities to attend

    The rise of interfaith marriages

    Drinking/Hangovers on the rise (aka Sunday Morning Coming Down Syndrome)

    ICE agents hanging out in churches

  5. “For nearly 3 in 10 Americans, the reason they don’t attend religious services is because they do not share religious beliefs.” As a Christian, Christ bought you with His blood that was shed for one while on the cross, paying for one’s sins. Following Him is not arbitrary, as some think they do. He is free to use one as He wishes, as He was given permission when one asked Him to indwell them. It’s all or nothing, in reality.

  6. Excellent point. The trend away from socializing goes far beyond religion, into pretty much every other venue. As just one example, attendance at major-league baseball games is at its lowest point in a very long time. And back in my teens, kids liked to congregate and hang out in shopping malls … but those, too, are failing due to lack of foot traffic. It’s definitely not just church people are skipping. 

    One note, though: It’s not just smartphones that are pulling people away from things. Surely sports attendance has been affected by the ubiquity of large-screen high-definition TV sets. It might be fun to watch a football or baseball game on a smartphone once in a while … but I’ve done it, and in the long run it’s kind of unsatisfying. My monster TV is much better for that! 

  7. The difference is, attending church is not “socializing”. It is worshipping, paying homage, and respecting the one who gave His life for you.

  8. You may be right. We have a small church of about 75 people. I left an assembly of about 500 members with about the same, non members regularly attending. Itchy ears assemblies will pack them in and entertain them. It is when one realizes they are here to worship Christ and do His will and not that He is in the sky to be santa to some that one understands why they go to church.

  9. You raise an interesting point. I’m old enough to remember the old Latin mass in which the priest faced forward during the eucharistic prayer, apparently because altars were supposed to face east toward Jerusalem (or so I was told.) What that posture did accomplish, IMO, was placing the focus on God, not on us. Now, with the priest facing toward the congregation, the emphasis is on us. Where once worship was an act of thanksgiving directed toward God, it’s now become more like group therapy, something for which I have no personal need. Megachurch “worship services” are more like infotainment than actual worship, if you ask me, with the complete focus on us and our needs. Then there’s the cheesy music which sounds more like last decade’s hits than anything remotely spiritual in nature. Add to that long-winded sermons dripping with right-wing ideology, clipped, Mike Pence style haircuts, too much big hair and makeup, and needless to say, it’s not my cup of tea.

  10. That you, personally and subjectively, define it as something other than “socializing,” cannot and will never magically make it anything other than a form of “socializing.” I get that you refuse to call it that — nevertheless, it is precisely that. 

  11. I agree. I don’t dismiss the community-building and fellowship aspects of common worship, but it seems we’ve gone too far in the direction of personal gratification. We expect everything to be about a feeling of belonging and fulfillment rather than responsibility.

    Contrary to what many seem to think today, obligation isn’t a dirty word. It’s how we honor our obligations, day in and day out, that gives our lives substance and meaning. But that’s a tough sell to a generation that can’t bear the idea of putting their phones away for an hour and just being in God’s presence.

  12. “the old Latin mass in which the priest faced forward during the eucharistic prayer”

    If the priest is “in persona Christi”, then in the old Latin mass Christ had his back to his followers, whereas in the current mass Christ and his followers are facing each other. For some, this is an improvement.

    My wife and I occasionally attended an SSPX service. What we discovered was that the memory was much better than the reality.

  13. One socializes somewhat at church. The purpose of church is to worship Christ.

  14. Oh I quite agree. There’s something about those traditionalist reenactments of pre-Vatican II masses that creep me out. I went to one of those once out of curiosity. I did not return. As an old music instructor once taught me, “you can recreate the pitch of ancient instruments, you can recreate the instruments themselves so that they sound exactly as they did three hundred years ago. What you can’t recreate is the audience who has experienced three hundred years of music since.” He was right.

  15. It remains a social event. It IS possible to worship Christ all alone, if one wishes to. Jesus himself reportedly alluded to this: “But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.” (Mt 6:6) 

  16. They are being fed a great deal, and most of it is counter-productive. America would be better off if all the mega-churches could somehow disband tomorrow. They are mega-businesses spawning the rise of Trumpism in America.

  17. Christianity is inherently social in nature. This does not detract from people worshiping God in community.

  18. I would add…

    “I hold religion as a positive value…for others.”

    “I hold religion as a positive value…because I don’t want my community ostracizing me.”

    “”I hold religion as a positive value…Because I don’t want to upset my family, parents, etc.”

    “I hold religion as a positive value…but I really don’t believe any of it any more.”

    “I hold religion as a positive value…but the politicization and weaponization of my conservative faith is a real turn off for me.”

    “I hold religion as a positive value…But I’m tired of them attacking my friends and family.”

    “I hold religion as a positive value…but they voted for Jabba the Trump and claimed they are moral people.”

    “I hold religion as a positive value…But I’m really tired of the raging, smarmy hypocrisy.”

  19. “I hold religion as a positive value…But I’m really tired of the raging, smarmy hypocrisy.”

    Not as tired as some of us are getting with your anti-religion song and dance.

  20. On another topic, I’ve been in dialogue lately with Monica DeAngelis from the old NCR site. She’s interested in putting together a discussion blog for some of the old NCR regulars, and maybe a few others. It wouldn’t be ideologically based, but it would be by invitation only, which, hopefully, would help keep the rancor to a minimum. Let me know if you’re interested and I’ll keep you up to date as things progress. And feel free to pass this on to others you run across from the old site.

  21. Greetings, Joseph. I wanted to let you know that I’ve been in dialogue lately with Monica DeAngelis from the old NCR site. She’s interested in putting together a discussion blog for some of the old NCR regulars, and maybe a few others. It wouldn’t be ideologically based, but it would be by invitation only, which, hopefully, would help keep the rancor to a minimum. Let me know if you’re interested and I’ll keep you up to date as things progress. And feel free to pass this on to others you run across from the old site.

  22. The reason why the priest faced the altar, and the altar faced the East (traditionally) is that the Mass was directed to the Father (as was Jesus’ sacrifice) – which explained everyone facing the same direction – and the East was the direction in which the sun rose.


  23. Of course it’s not, unless you go to the Church of What’s Happening Now.

    AFTER whatever service is conducted, socializing is rather common.

  24. Funny, religious liberals don’t accuse me of being anti religion. Just you.

    And if you are really tired of your imaginary anti religion song and dance…

    …You can always block me, dear.

  25. Gay and trans people are stuck and tired of living under the constant threat of being lynched by homophobes and transphobes like yourself.

  26. In the early history of this country and still in many small towns and rural areas church is where people met to see friends, hear the news–which is why many churches have had over the years a coffee hour before or after services. For some people their whole social circle revolves around their church friends. Whether you like it or not church has always and will continue to be a social institution!

  27. Is Jesus’s sacrifice being directed to the Father part of Catholic doctrine? My understanding of the general theology is that the sacrifice was for all mankind.
    Why the sun?

  28. Funny, what you call “religious liberals” share your animosity towards religion.

  29. Where I live, car dealers are using empty church parking lots for storage of cars. I thought one church was doing really well — and was busy every day…until I noticed all the cars in the parking lot were new Mazda’s !!

    …Scary message to conservative Christians…But the Mosques are packed full !!

  30. Now for the real reason: The Great Kibosh!!

    Putting the kibosh on all religion in less than ten seconds: Priceless !!!

    • As far as one knows or can tell, there was no Abraham i.e. the foundations of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are non-existent.

    • As far as one knows or can tell, there was no Moses i.e the pillars of Judaism, Christianity and Islam have no strength of purpose.

    • There was no Gabriel i.e. Islam fails as a religion. Christianity partially fails.

    • There was no Easter i.e. Christianity completely fails as a religion.

    • There was no Moroni i.e. Mormonism is nothing more than a business cult.

    • Sacred/revered cows, monkey gods, castes, reincarnations and therefore Hinduism fails as a religion.

    • Fat Buddhas here, skinny Buddhas there, reincarnated/reborn Buddhas everywhere makes for a no on Buddhism.

    • A constant cycle of reincarnation until enlightenment is reached and belief that various beings (angels?, tinkerbells? etc) exist that we, as mortals, cannot comprehend makes for a no on Sikhism.

    Added details available upon written request.

    A quick search will put the kibosh on any other groups calling themselves a religion.

    e.g. Taoism

    “The origins of Taoism are unclear. Traditionally, Lao-tzu who lived in the sixth century is regarded as its founder. Its early philosophic foundations and its later beliefs and rituals are two completely different ways of life. Today (1982) Taoism claims 31,286,000 followers.

    Legend says that Lao-tzu was immaculately conceived by a shooting star; carried in his mother’s womb for eighty-two years; and born a full grown wise old man. “

  31. The Latin Mass would fix things…”Sanctus, Sanctus, Sanctus”

    Or better yet…”Mea Culpa” !!

  32. Not so much the sun, as the Son, stated direction of the Second Coming.

    The rising sun also being a metaphor for Jesus, the bright & morning star.

  33. Christians harbor animosity towards gay and trans people, for no reason.

  34. Church is only there for kids to get molested inside it.

  35. Let’s get our terminology right here…”The Tridentine Mass”.

    I learned something — wasn’t daydreaming those years at St Rose and as an altar boy !!

  36. My solutions: Besides bringing telecommunication technologies to the Mass, increase the priest talent pool by eliminating the “significantly stupid” ban on having female and married priests. The “scriptural references” supporting such a ban have been declared to be “null and void” by most contemporary NTl scholars. These scriptural embellishments were add-ons by scribes/translators post-Jesus based on the historical conditions in the early Church. It is time to bring the RCC out of the first to third century mentality.

    Some other solutions if you really want to be religious on Sunday and Holydays:

    No part-time priests needed and very few full time priests needed. The pope says one mass for thousands to millions how these days?? HDTV- so we should follow suit by going to mass whenever via HDTV and DVRs at home with the eucharist delivered by mail, UPS or FedEx. We get a year supply at Easter. No churches needed, no priests needed save one to consecrate the hosts and say the mass. And you get the best and brightest homilist for this. And the best choirs!!! Think of the money you would save on priest and parish maintenance!!!!!

    Baptisms? Deacons already do this.

    Confirmation? HDTV with the pope doing the confirming on a global basis once a month.

    Funerals? HDTV at the funeral home. Pick your service from a HD DVD.

    Confession? A weekly “forgiving ceremony” via HDTV by the same priest/pope. Just a few rules needed for this to be so. There is no NT foundation for face to face confession. Pick your penance via set formulas available on the Vatican webpage.

    Marriage preparation/ Pre-Cana conferences- trained parishioners already conduct these.

    And if you still want to go to church to anoint yourself with unsanitary holy water and shake the hands of cold and flu sufferers, then convert the sanctuaries to a big screen HDTV and enjoy the first class homilist and choir with “Fedexed” communion distributed by eucharistic ministers. What about the common cup? Common cups and the potential spread of disease are synonymous i.e. the FDA should ban common cups.


  37. It still happens at the church, doesn’t it?
    Ever hear of “JFK” synagogue attendees?

  38. enjoy yourself, but most churches don’t endorse this. Perhaps turn yourself into the police

  39. Church can be a social situation – that is not the reason for the church.

  40. I see you can misquote scripture. Would you like me to explain to you the scripture you are referring to, or would you like to remain in the dark?

  41. “but most churches don’t endorse this”

    Cover ups and apologists demonstrate otherwise.

  42. I’m not the one molesting children. Christians are doing that.

  43. “But the Mosques are packed full !!”

    As are churches which cater to immigrants. Storefront churches are a dime a dozen in my neck of the woods (Northern NJ). Immigration accounts for avoiding the steep decline in belief seen in places like Western Europe.

  44. Not being an astronomer, I’m not sure what nicks may be attributed to Venus, the planet. There are times that it is the last visible object in the western sky just prior to sunrise in the east.

    One could certainly argue that the true morning star is Sol, our sun, since it is an actual star. It is also a title attributed to Jesus in scripture.

  45. “(a) Is Jesus’s sacrifice being directed to the Father part of Catholic doctrine? (b) My understanding of the general theology is that the sacrifice was for all mankind. (c) Why the sun?

    The standard Christian text on the sacrifice of Jesus is the epistle to the Hebrews.


    It describes Jesus entering the heavenly Holy of Holies, of which the earthly Holy of Holies was only the earthly representation, and offering himself perpetually to the Father on behalf of all mankind.


    (a) Hebrews 7:

    25 Consequently he is able for all time to save those who approach God through him, since he always lives to make intercession for them. 26 For it was fitting that we should have such a high priest, holy, blameless, undefiled, separated from sinners, and exalted above the heavens.


    27 Unlike the other high priests, he has no need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for those of the people; this he did once for all when he offered himself. 28 For the law appoints as high priests those who are subject to weakness, but the word of the oath, which came later than the law, appoints a Son who has been made perfect forever.

    So, he made the sacrifice to the Father on behalf of all mankind.

    (c) The eastward orientation (ad orientum) has been the practice since the earliest days of Christianity. Tertullian (c. 160 – c. 220) wrote that because Christians faced towards the east at prayer, some non-Christians thought they worshiped the sun.

    It appears that Christians adopted the eastward orientation when praying, as did the Jewish sects of the Essenes and the Therapeutae, for whom “the eastward prayer had acquired an eschatological dimension, the ‘fine bright day’ for which the Therapeutae prayed being apparently the messianic age and the Essene prayer towards the sun ‘as though beseeching him to rise’ being a petition for the coming of the priestly Messiah.”

    Since Christians believed that the Messiah had already appeared, but would reappear in a Second Coming, the thoughts of these sects and the Christians approximated each other.

    As a result no one in the primitive Church described the origin of the practice and by the time of Origen (c. 184 – 253) all he could write was”The reasons for this, I think, are not easily discovered by anyone.”

  46. So, you weren’t the brightest bulb in your Catholic school, eh?

  47. I agree with you on this one Spud – better change your comment so you can be consistent.

  48. You got that one right. But in this country, it’s the Christian terrorists who have taken over the government, and don’t want to be held accountable for their crimes against children.

  49. It is a reference to “Just for Kiddush” Jews, those who come to the synagogue only toward the end for the food and socializing after the service. It’s still a reason to come is my point.
    [“Kiddush” literally refers to the sanctification of the wine or grape juice used to begin the post-service lunch, but it has come to mean the entirety of the social/eating time.]

  50. Sixth grade runner-up Valedictorian !! Still have the certificate from Sister Anne Patricia.

  51. thx. You have Origen’s “I don’t know,” Tertullian’s note of the fact that some thought the Christians were praying to the sun, and some sects of both Christians and Jews facing east for messianic reasons. They had to have gotten the idea from somewhere..
    In modern times, in the Western Hemisphere at least, it is traditional to face east, as this is the location of Jerusalem. There is also a rare ritual called Birkat Hachama, in which Jews thank God for the sun. It is based on a Talmudic understanding of a supposed 28-year cycle of the sun that may be itself based on a non-heliocentric universe. But it’s still done today, most recently in 2009. And every time, it still has to be emphasized to others (and ourselves) that we are worshipping God, not Sol.

  52. I think your church might grow if you left, Sandi ??

  53. I know what it says better than you do. I can, after all, read it in the original Greek. There’s no need for you to correct me, nor can you, because I’m not wrong: You are.

  54. No. That scripture was referring to the pharisees making a show, and the Lord was teaching not to make a show of prayer. There you go. If Christ had meant that for everyone, He would not have prayed in public…(edited)

  55. If you would start attending a Christian church, I would honour you by going elsewhere if it helped you to get saved

  56. I haven’t read about a lot of pedophiles who want to be held accountable for their crimes – not only Christian

  57. Exactly. No substance. It’s often called the “church of nice”. Man-centric “events” focused on feeling good about one selves instead of reverently worshiping God.

  58. OMG!!! I actually agree with you. Well done sir.

  59. “Morning star” has three references in Christianity.

    The first is with the Devil, Lucifer, which means “bearer of light” or “morning star,” referring to his former splendor as the greatest of the angels.

    Isaiah/Yeshayah 14:12-15

    How you are fallen from heaven,
    O Day Star, son of Dawn!
    How you are cut down to the ground,
    you who laid the nations low!
    You said in your heart,
    “I will ascend to heaven;
    I will raise my throne
    above the stars of God;
    I will sit on the mount of assembly
    on the heights of Zaphon;
    I will ascend to the tops of the clouds,
    I will make myself like the Most High.”
    But you are brought down to Sheol,
    to the depths of the Pit.

    The second is with Jesus.

    2 Peter 1:19 So we have the prophetic message more fully confirmed. You will do well to be attentive to this as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.


    Revelation 22:16

    16 “It is I, Jesus, who sent my angel to you with this testimony for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.”

    The third is with Mary, in Western Catholicism, traditional Anglo-Catholicism, and high church Lutheranism.

    According that tradition the title of Morning Star is given to the mother of Jesus. As the morning star announces the coming of the day, appearing in the sky and reflecting the light of the sun, “Mary appeared on the horizon of salvation history before Christ” (John Paul II, Redemptoris Mater, Encyclical Letter, March 25, 1987) and shows us the way to Him.

  60. And there, Bob Jose Arnzen Carioca the local AS$HOLE gets totally PWNED again.

    Bob Arnzen, you suck.

  61. Bob Jose, your religion is fiction and bullshi​t. Just get over it already.

  62. LOL. sandin, your religion is all BS, all the time.

  63. Interesting. Yes, I’d be interested in learning about how such an initiative would work. Thank you!

  64. For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 1 Corinthians 1:18

  65. Sandi, Why would you want to leave Westboro Baptist ??

  66. LOL. sandin, your religion is all BS, all the time. Your dribbling spew doesn’t change that.

  67. Bob Jose Arnzen Carioca, you are generally lost, and deluded.

  68. LOL. There is no good reason for the church.

  69. LOL. Nah, your Christ story is all BS, all the time. Do the world a favor and get over it already, stupid.

  70. Re: “That scripture was referring to the pharisees making a show, and the Lord was teaching not to make a show of prayer.” 

    It’s really charming how you can’t — or won’t — actually pay attention to what I said. Which was, that “Jesus himself reportedly alluded to” people worshipping alone. 

    Nothing you just said contradicts what I said. It remains the case that Mt 6:6 alluded to people worshiping individually and in private. I’m not sure why you missed that … but you did. 

    Now, if you want to prove to me that you know this scripture better than I do, then by all means, do so — and by quoting it only in the original Greek. The starting point, of course, would be to tell me which Greek edition you plan to use, and why you consider its rendition of Mt 6:6 superior to the others. 

    Go ahead. Get to it! Don’t worry, I’ll wait while you school yourself in Greek and in the Greek manuscripts and editions and the biblical text-types. And while you’re at it, you can remember I’d already done all of that work over 30 years ago and have only continued mastering those texts since then. 

  71. Where I live churches are buying land and expanding their buildings and parking lots.

  72. And for some “progressives” their whole social circle revolves around mouthing “progressive” positions and touting being enlightened.

  73. “Morning star” is more of a literary concept than astronomical, but it most often refers to Venus. As you and Bob note, it is a title given to Jesus in the New Testament. But in Isaiah 14:12, it is given to the King of Babylon. Instead of a harbinger of daylight, literally like Eos or Aurora or metaphorically like Jesus or Mary, in Isaiah the “helel ben shachar,” literally light-bringer, son of dawn, appears bright at first but fades quickly in the face of the much brighter Sun. It may have been a subtle dig at the Babylonian worship of Ishtar, the Queen of Heaven, who was also connected with Venus.
    Of course it was the Vulgate that translated helel ben shachar as “lucifer,” leading eventually to the identification of this verse with Satan.

  74. I wouldn’t mind going head-to-head with Monica again. She’s quite intelligent, obviously. One of the first things I would ask her is whether she still thinks my early warnings about Trump’s creeping authoritarianism are still “hysterical and hyperbolic,” to use her words. Everything last thing I predicted about Trump, and then some, has been borne out since he was elected. She thought I was overreacting. I thought she was trying too hard not to see what many of us could see very early on. It would be fun to go at it again. So yes, count me in.

  75. Cite your scripture.
    Church is a place to worship Christ, “socializing” comes second. Christ has to come first in all things.
    l would say that your “original Greek” you want to be so proud of has not helped you at all on this subject.

  76. Re: “Cite your scripture.” 

    OK, here: “συ δε οταν προσευχη εισελθε εις το ταμιειον σου και κλεισας την θυραν σου προσευξαι τω πατρι σου τω εν τω κρυπτω και ο πατηρ σου ο βλεπων εν τω κρυπτω αποδωσει σοι εν τω φανερω” (κατα ματθαιον 6:6) 

    Jesus’ allusion to praying (and, thus, worshiping) individually is “εισελθε εις το ταμιειον σου”.

    Re: “Church is a place to worship Christ, ‘socializing’ comes second.” 

    So you admit there’s socializing? Thanks! QED 

    Re: “l would say that your “original Greek” you want to be so proud of (and I would be also) has not helped you at all on this subject.” 

    How can you know this, if you don’t know the original Greek yourself? On what basis can you even begin to make such a claim? 

  77. You seem to think a knowledge of whatever language saves you – it doesn’t – nor because of your inaccurate comments, does it impress me. Run along and try to impress someone else Psi – you failed here

  78. Which is unfortunate, because ha Satan of the oldest portions of the Old Testament wasn’t Lucifer or the Devil, he was the prosecuting attorney of the Heavenly Realm, one of the good guys.

  79. Re: “You seem to think a knowledge of whatever language saves you – it doesn’t …” 

    Irrelevant. My knowledge of scripture is objectively superior to yours, if I can read and discuss it in its original language but you cannot. 

    Re: “… nor because of your inaccurate comments, does it impress me.” 

    I have said nothing “inaccurate.” Do I disagree with you? Yes. That doesn’t make me “inaccurate.” 

    Re: “Run along and try to impress someone else Psi – you failed here” 

    You’re the “failure” here. Not me. 

  80. Not to go further nose to nose. If your knowledge of scripture were superior to mine, I would not have needed to correct you.
    Also, try to read the comments. blessings.

  81. Re: “If your knowledge of scripture were superior to mine, I would not have needed to correct you.” 

    But you didn’t “correct” me. There was nothing to “correct.” I wasn’t wrong. In truth — as I originally said — in Mt 6:6, Jesus alludes to worshiping individually. That, in turn, means worship need not be done only communally. 

    Re: “Also, try to read the comments. blessings.” 

    … says someone who clearly never paid attention to what I actually said. Well done, Christianist! You must be soooooo proud! 

  82. Sure. But 1/3 of its erstwhile members are hooked on hillbilly heroin.

  83. I haven’t been to my Unitarian church in well over a year. I still love the place and people, but my weekends are far too short as it is. I need my Sunday mornings to do practical things to prepare for the coming week, and it’s some of the only time my husband and I have to spend together.

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