Ben Carson’s faith (and mine) has already touched your life (COMMENTARY)

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Ellen White, the founder of Seventh-day Adventism, was viewed by outsiders as delusional yet the church she started is now one of the world's fastest-growing. RNS file photo

Ellen White, the founder of Seventh-day Adventism, was viewed by outsiders as delusional yet the church she started is now one of the world's fastest-growing. RNS file photo

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What Donald Trump doesn’t know about Seventh-day Adventism could perhaps fill a book or two. But the 1 million Adventists in the U.S. would be happy to tell him -- or anyone else -- the full story.

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  • Andrew P Boydston

    When people read for themselves what Dr Carson core values are, they will be surprised to learn those values matches what constitutes being a Christian. The “cult” designated-reference only centers on the SDA obsession of Christ Our Savior, and refers to having a health and better living message for complimenting Christian lives, which is apart from the “anything goes world’, hence it is viewed as an apart Christian, therefore a cult label is applied by those who don’t bother to even learn of its Christianity, as Donald Trump has noted.

  • Paul Spence

    OK, so you guys have done some good things in medicine. However, if people like Ben Carson deny the fact of evolution (a fact that does not require any supernatural help) how can we think you are rational?

  • Bernardo

    Added details about the Adventists:

    “Seventh-day Adventists (SDAs) follow most of the beliefs of conventional conservative Christianity: creation in six days, the fall of mankind in the Garden of Eden, original sin; the virgin birth; the divinity of Christ; the nature of the Trinity; belief in Satan as a rebellious created being; God’s inspiration of the authors of the Bible, the inerrancy of Scriptures as they were written by their authors; the resurrection of Jesus, salvation by the atonement of Christ, considering all same-gender sexual behavior as sinful, regardless of the nature of the relationship; rejection of same-sex marriage, civil unions, etc”

    i.e. Same old, outdated Christian beliefs!!!

  • Bernardo

    And the Adventists are not immune to scandals:

    One example:

    “The Seventh-Day Adventist Church is facing a $13.5 million lawsuit for allegedly appointing a known pedophile to a youth group leader position. Two men have said they were sexually abused by the youth leader while involved with the “Pathfinder” group in the 1970s.”

  • Dr. Benjamin Carson: God’s man for such a time as this.

  • Jack

    Mmmmm…corn flakes.

  • Larry

    Should Carson make it out of the primaries, I will laugh so hard when the conservative Catholic organizations endorse him. The SDA is extremely anti-catholic. They set themselves up as the enemy of that sect (sort of trying to punch above one’s weight class to look tough).

    Btw by all accounts J.H. Kellogg, was a nutcase. He is considered the godfather of modern alternative medicine quackery. (Thanks for nothing)

  • Good job Mark! Cheers! (Shalom too). Steve Wohlberg

  • Debbo

    I agree that SDA is a version of Christianity. I’ve heard SDA members describe their faith as “sort of Old Testament based.” From what I’ve seen and learned, including here, that seems “sort of” true.

    What I find odd is that out of all the things in the bible, they chose to hang their hats on a specific day for their official sabbath.

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  • Kathy

    Correction. Seventh-day Adventists believe in the whole Bible, both old and new testament. Jesus kept the seventh day Sabbath. I don’t think religion should be used against anyone running for president. Our country exists because we wanted a place where each person can worship according to the dictates of their conscience. We should be more freightened of any candidate who would not abide by our constitution.

  • Ryan

    Amen! I concur Kathy. And Adventists are not anti-catholic. We oppose the erroneous doctrines held by the Roman Catholic system.

  • Larry

    Which usually involves calling the RCC,”The Wh0re of Babylon” and its leader “The Anti-Christ”. Nothing hostile about that whatsoever. 🙂

  • It’s always the ones who don’t believe as you do that are the nuts. One of Dr. Carson’s most appealing traits is that he’s not willing to get down into the mud that’s typical of politicians in these campaigns. As soon as the poll numbers start slipping, the attacks begin. It’s a plus for the doctor that Trump couldn’t find anything else to attack.

  • Yvette Rock

    And so have the Catholics religion on a regular basis. There are bad elements in all groups of people. It doesn’t make the religion bad. Your reasoning on this subject holds no ground by the fact most likely there are these bad elements in every religion, race, sex, or gender. I am a proud Seventh – Day Adventist, born and raised. Every day I pray for all that’s in this world. Good and bad. People that do the things you are suggesting should by all means be punished, yet, I pray for them as well. The Bible tells us to love one another and that God is Love. The sooner our country/world gets back to this the better off we will be.

  • Bernice Baker

    Adventists have a long history as conscientious objectors and pacifists. Dr. Carson promotes guns, violence and has many views that are offensive. He does not represent
    Adventist faith but is free to hold his own views.

  • Noelle Lamberton Gaskill

    Bernice Lamberton Baker…you are one smart cookie. Some Adventists believe in science. It’s more of a culture founded on higher education, thinking critically and promoting public health. I find that most educated Adventists are against the fundamentalist Christian, anti-gay, anti-science, blend of anti tolerance than old school fear of Catholicism. This was a long time ago and not part of the current dogma. Get with modern philosophy. The anti-catholic dogma is archaic and the views of most intellectual, highly educated, cultural Adventists have evolved. The view against Catholics was based on fear of being forced to have their Sabbath taken away and not being able to worship or follow the Sabbath as the seventh day of rest. I know no intelligent Adventist cultured person who believes the earth is 6,000 years old or that Catholics are to be feared the new pope is more in sync with what the Adventist church is supposed to be founded on. Humility, care for the poor.

  • Bernardo

    “As a concept, the Golden Rule has a history that long predates the term “Golden Rule”, or “Golden law”, as it was called from the 1670s.[1][6] As a concept of “the ethic of reciprocity,” it has its roots in a wide range of world cultures, and is a standard way that different cultures use to resolve conflicts.[1][5] It has a long history, and a great number of prominent religious figures and philosophers have restated its reciprocal, “two-way” nature in various ways (not limited to the above forms).[1]

    Rushworth Kidder discusses the early contributions of Confucius (551–479 BCE) (See a version in Confucianism below). Kidder notes that this concept’s framework appears prominently in many religions, including “Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, Zoroastrianism, and the rest of the world’s major religions”.

    Did the historical Jesus utter a version of the Golden Rule? Luke 6:31 = Matt 7:12- no he did not according to the findings of many contemporary NT scholars.